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Where does this keyboard come from?

I have the 16 key touch dual.
So on input options, you have the touch keypad, when I select that sometimes this comes out (please see attached)
I like it thought better than the 20 key touch keyboard.

Yeh... Where?
I second this, it works really well but there is no option to bring it up on the dual... it just randomly appears sometimes when you need to input text.

Thirded.
And whats more, why does text input seem to vary on web pages?
I've got some where it defaults to numeric input when it should be alpha numeric (ie. passwords), others where XT9 seems to be off (the subject on mails in facebook).
Its so stupidly all over the place and inconsistent! If I could just get this one to pop up all the time I'd be happy.

Doesn't that keyboard show when there's no text entry field?
And yes, i want it too, why would they disable it for normal usage?

Yeh I have found the keyboard to be all over the place when it comes to deciding if it will give you tx9, abc, 123, etc.... Anyone know a way to set one of the two alphanumerics as a default at least?

ok ive had this appear a few times now but couldnt figure out why, as you have been asking for it i have been playing around and think i know what is causing it. you may not need everything listed below but these are the settings on my device if you play around with them you should be able to narrow it down.
I'm running Toms rom, found here
i have disabled threaded sms by using the second setting here
i have enabled the favourite people button on the htc home screen by deleteing the key here
the only other app i have that may have changed a setting is the HTC home customiser.
After making these changes tick the enable xt9 setting in romsettings app, exit the app, then go back into it and untick the enable t9 setting, after closing romsettings you should have the keyboard shown in the second screen shot
as far as i can see this changes the keyboard in all applications

Thats great! Still albeit of a noob so you lost me somewhere there, is there a way to this on the stock ROM?

short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.

kerrance76 said:
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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Ok will try that thanks. On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?

I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.

muzikfreakah said:
On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
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I wish, this has been a problem since the phones release - theres 7 pages on it here

muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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thats the default action anyway, with the changes detailed the keyboard is available when entering text, if you look at the second image you will see that the cursor is actually in the message box, its the black line at the end of the word hello

muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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Eh? Maybe I overdosed on the thick pills last night, but that doesn't make any sense? If I click on a password field in IE, sometimes the main phone keypad always seems to default to numeric entry. But clicking in the field itself pops up this lovely keyboard.
It really does make no sense at all. There doesn't appear to be any standard/global keyboard settings.
And this is in v6 of WinMo, you would have thought they would have got the basics right by now, but the darned sent items has the useless option of "order by from" - when all the sent items are sent from the same person.
Its got plenty of potential, but it just seems like lots of separate teams were implementing it, doing their own thing without any centralised discussion/design.

Has anyone managed to get this to work with the standard T-Mobile [UK] ROM ?

any updates on this as well? it would be nice to just get an option for this

I got it to work, rather by chance, but thing is after that, I could switch to back to the touchpad type anymore.
I installed POCKETCM KEYBOARD. After doing that, somehow it locked this keyboard in when I choose touchpad.
Its rather a workaround, but for those who to use it premanently, you can do it

it also shows up at times when you are entering a password

Ouch ! I read to quickly and did'nt see the word "permanently" !
It does the same for me after installing pocketpc keyboard and even after uninstalling it !!!
Did you find a way to get the classic keyboard back ? This one is nice but there are some important keys missing as "." and a key to hide the keyboard !
Thanks
EDIT : The installation of Resco Keyboard got all the original settings back + Resco Keyboard of course.
So if you need to use the famous "hidden HTC keyboard", simply install Resco Keyboard and then Pocketpc keyboard.
You will then have your classic "touch" keyboards replaced by the "hidden keyboard" (+Resco Keyboard installed of course).
But to my mind, Resco keyboard alone is better...

swype words

after the update... although my screen is useless now.. i admit that the swype has improved.. so i'm begining to use it more now... but i can't get over at how many "useless" words are in the phone memory.. if i were to edirt swypes dictionary.. i would be able to make swype far more accrate... by disposing or deleting all the words that are incorrect or not even a word... any input on this?? is there a way to do it?

or to add words?

lbhocky19 said:
or to add words?
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Adding words is easy. Tap out the new word and press "space" afterwards. Any new wiord you type out in this manner gets added to Swype's dictionary.

k, so any idea on how to edit swypes dictionary?? i can imagine that its set up similar to hd2 xt9 dictionary... am i correct?

[Q] Huge step back in text prediction after 2.1 upgrade

Am I the only who took a huge step back in terms of the quality of word completion prediction when I upgraded from 1.6 to 2.1? I had used the default keyboard on 1.6 and I'm talking about the default keyboard on 2.1 now. On 1.6, text prediction was brilliant. On 2.1, it's like a joke.
Here are some of the things that used to happen on 1.6:
1) When I hit, say, the letter "T" as the beginning of a new word, the list of suggestions I got looked something like this:
to
today
tomorrow
through
time
So, with the most common words, I could simply type a single letter and pick the word from the suggestion list, in most cases.
2) Recently used words were aggresively brought to the beginning of the suggestion list. For example, if I'm entering a couple of repetitions of a phrase like "parametric equalization" into a list, after typing the first instance in its entirety, on the second instance, when I hit the "P" key, the word "parametric" would be the first item on the suggestion list. After picking that suggestion, as soon as I typed an "E" for the beginning of the second word, "equalization" would be the first item in the suggestion list.
3)There were two rows of suggested words available. (At least, it was an option I could pick.)
After upgrading to 2.1, none of that is true! Here's what now happens with the default keyboard on 2.1:
1) When I hit the letter "T", here is the entire list of suggestions I see:
t
r
f
g
y
Is this a joke? Where are my full word suggestions? Where are the suggestions of the "T-words" that I've just typed in the preceding sentence? These are not "word completion suggestions"! There's no "completion" to speak of here. These are T9 input options. Is someone asleep at the wheel?
2) I no longer see a way of enabling two rows of suggestions to be displayed. Did I do something wrong in order to cause it to be taken away? Was I bad boy?
3) When I set "Spelling correction" to "off", I lose completion suggestions altogether. What? Since when do "spelling correction" and "word completion" mean the same thing?
So, am I missing something? I didn't see many complaints voiced on this forum about these issues. Am I the only one bothered by these?
I know that a common suggestion such complaints is to switch to using another keyboard such as the HTC_IME. I've tried it. That one behaves almost identically to the default 2.1 keyboard, in terms of the issues I explained above. The sole improvement it provides is that it's slightly more inclined to include longer words in the suggestion list than the default, but only after you type the third letter or so. Not the same thing as what I had in 1.6. Not good enough.
And, by the way, in my case, there doesn't seem to be a way of eliminating spelling correction on the HTC_IME keyboard. I turned off all spelling correction options that I could find. When I type "for", I want only words that start with for- to be shown on my suggestion list. Instead, here are the suggestions that I get for "for" with all spelling correction options turned off:
for
got
god
cor
fir
foe
In what universe are those "not" spelling corrections?
Oh and, by the way, thanks for the brilliant idea of wasting the space for one suggestion (the most likely one, actually) by presenting what I have typed myself in the first place. It's not like I could have just hit Space and continued if that were in fact what I meant to type. Which Nobel laureate came up with that one?
Does anyone know of a third-party keyboard that behaves in the way I explained in the "used to" list above? I looked through a few of them, but the details of the behavior to this extent is usually something not covered in the feature lists shown for these or covered in reviews.

I use the Japanese IME for English, while not ideal, works exactly like the 1.6 English keyboard did, in terms of prediction.
Then again, sometimes I need to type in Japanese, so using the Japanese IME works for me.

You may want to try swiftkey

I'm finding exactly the same thing. Surely there must be a way of changing this?
I've tried all the options and, like you said, if you turn off spelling correction, everything turns off. Bit pants really.
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I spent a good chunk of my weekend "upgrading" to 2.1 and found this as well. Guney, it's like you're inside my head, although far more polite than I was when I saw the new keyboard!
Will try the above suggestions and see how I go.

It's good to hear that I'm not alone with these complaints.
iead1 said:
I use the Japanese IME for English, while not ideal, works exactly like the 1.6 English keyboard did, in terms of prediction.
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Hmmm. If you're talking about the built-in Japanese one, I'd be willing to give that a try if it allows typing in English as well.
shooi said:
I've tried all the options and, like you said, if you turn off spelling correction, everything turns off.
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I'm pretty sure it's a plain and simple bug. I can't understand how it slipped through. It's pretty embarrassing, really. In any case, that's not even the biggest one of my complaints. (That would be the lack of adaptive full-word suggestions.)
zephyrix said:
You may want to try swiftkey
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If you're implying that Swiftkey provides most of the behavior that I've lost, then I'll try that out too. Thank you.

iead1 said:
I use the Japanese IME for English, while not ideal, works exactly like the 1.6 English keyboard did, in terms of prediction.
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I've just tried the built-in Japanese keyboard. I can't thank you enough for your suggestion! Like you said, its behavior is exactly the same as the 1.6 default English keyboard. It's actually an improvement over even that one, in one or two respects.
The only drawback I'll have to live with is the need to press the "Symbol" key (the keyboard mode switcher) twice to return from symbols back to alphabetical keys. (There's a third keyboard layout that I need to cycle through, which is obviously specific to Japanese text entry.) Also, the layout of the "numbers and symbols" keyboard is different, but nothing seems to be missing and it's actually arguably better than the original (the number keys are larger). I'm more than willing to live with this when all of my complaints about the 2.1 keyboard is eliminated!
And here are a few additional benefits I got from the Japanese keyboard:
The left and right arrow keys are back, for moving the cursor.
Four lines of suggestions are displayed when I hit even the first letter of a word. (Woo-hoo!) Not only that, but I can also scroll through more suggestions in that four-line space if I swipe up. (This might have been there in 1.6 but, if so, I hadn't gotten into the habit of using it.) This kind of vertical scrolling through suggestions is much more efficient than the horizontal scrolling in the new default keyboard (as well as in Swiftkey) in my opinion. Instead swiping an entire screen width's worth to see only three more words or so, you can swipe up only two line heights' worth and see two new lines of suggestions (about six to eight words, usually).
There's even a key with a smiley as its label which brings up a list of most frequenly used symbol characters in the same form as the suggested word list, saving me two taps when I need to type only a single symbol. Sweet!
I can comfortably recommend this to anyone else who has the same complaints as me about the default 2.1 English keyboard. I consider my problem solved.

I'm all for Swype. I've used it and never wanted to switch back.

guney said:
I've just tried the built-in Japanese keyboard. I can't thank you enough for your suggestion!
I can comfortably recommend this to anyone else who has the same complaints as me about the default 2.1 English keyboard. I consider my problem solved.
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Awesome! Glad to have helped! The only complaint I have about the Japanese keyboard is that four lines of suggestions means it gets in the way of seeing the text box I'm typing in occasionally. It's a good keyboard, I've always found it more accurate than the standard English keyboard as well.

Anyone managed to track down the 1.6 apk of the original keyboard and tried installing that!?

I can't stand the 2.1 keyboard. I've tried loading the Japanese keyboard but I can't find it. How do you get it to load instead of the English keyboard?

gump1376 said:
I can't stand the 2.1 keyboard. I've tried loading the Japanese keyboard but I can't find it. How do you get it to load instead of the English keyboard?
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Go to any text field that you can edit, tap and hold, pick "Japanese keyboard" from the pop-up list. (This doesn't work in some specialized fields like the browser's address field, but the search field of the Market app is one place where it does work.)

iead1 said:
I use the Japanese IME for English, while not ideal, works exactly like the 1.6 English keyboard did, in terms of prediction.
Then again, sometimes I need to type in Japanese, so using the Japanese IME works for me.
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thanks for the tip iead1

if you havent tried the HTC_ime mod i suggest you give it a chance. i have been using that since before my X10 and i love it. i have far less prediction problems. also if its any advantage: i find it way faster to type with the compact qwerty keyboard when i type in portrait.

jerkysans said:
I'm all for Swype. I've used it and never wanted to switch back.
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Me too. Toggle between HTC keyboard & Swype.

Is there a Swype library editor

I love my swype keyboard but I'm sick and tired of the library adding little corrections our appendages to words and then letting those add on block out the words I'm trying to type.
I want to know if there are any apps that allow me to open up my swype library and edit it I'm a list form.
As an example it would list all entries in the library in alphabetical order and allow me to delete entries that I don't need.
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Great question, I'd love to know too

It doesn't even need to be swype
Specifically but a library editor in general
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I believe each keyboard has its own user dictionary and they are not shared. would make sense if they were though.

when i encounter this, i just highlight the blocking word, hit swype logo on the bottom right, delete, and it never shows again...

This is one of the major reasons I switched away from SlideIT and Swype (to Ultra Keyboard, which so far seems to be using the User Dictionary).
You can only really use the select and Swype key delete method. Personally I thought it was easier to disable automatic addons and add words.

Great question. Been wondering the same thing for a couple of weeks. Those notifications that a word was blocked really slow down my typing.

ohmyggg said:
Great question. Been wondering the same thing for a couple of weeks. Those notifications that a word was blocked really slow down my typing.
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Definetly ... And the creators of swype say ignore those pop ups until your done typing your message then go back through and edit everything ... only problem with that is that I have a short memory span lol and cant quite remember what word was meant to be there
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I hope someone can figure out an app or some way to edit the swype dictonary. I really like swype and highlighting the word then pressing the swype button works just fine but i would like to edit the list of words in one shot.

mWallar said:
This is one of the major reasons I switched away from SlideIT and Swype (to Ultra Keyboard, which so far seems to be using the User Dictionary).
You can only really use the select and Swype key delete method. Personally I thought it was easier to disable automatic addons and add words.
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Thanks for the Ultra keyboard mention. Tried it and love it. Better than swype to me. Maybe not as accurate at first, but has tons of features and I don't have to worry about that annoying popup box.

I wish there were a way to disable Swype from automatically adding words you type, but instead having an easy way to manually teach it words. A lot of stuff I type gets added and reappears later even if it was only a one time thing.

[Q] Adding words to the dictionary

I'm really enjoying the updated android keyboard and don't think I'm going to install swype on this phone.
What I do not understand is how I can quickly add new words to the dictionary.
I know I can go into the "language and input" settings to add words, but yesterday I manually typed a word that was not in the dictionary and it asked me if I wanted to add it. What did I do different to get it to ask me to add a word to the dictionary? This will be a real time saver in the first weeks of using this device.

rumpleforeskin said:
I'm really enjoying the updated android keyboard and don't think I'm going to install swype on this phone.
What I do not understand is how I can quickly add new words to the dictionary.
I know I can go into the "language and input" settings to add words, but yesterday I manually typed a word that was not in the dictionary and it asked me if I wanted to add it. What did I do different to get it to ask me to add a word to the dictionary? This will be a real time saver in the first weeks of using this device.
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Type the word, it will appear in the middle of the suggestion bar (correctly recognized words will appear either side), tap on the word in the suggestion bar.

jakejm79 said:
Type the word, it will appear in the middle of the suggestion bar (correctly recognized words will appear either side), tap on the word in the suggestion bar.
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That's how I suspect it should work, though it only occasionally gives me the "tap word again to add to dictionary" option.
Though I'm noticing a pattern to words it will not add, such as expletives or words with less than 4 letters