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Newer Nexus One's to feature HTC's new maxTouch technology?

Do you think it'll happen? There has been rumors floating around about it.

Doubt it.
Where are the rumours from? here?

Damn the title got me excited. Well I sure hope so because I was planning on ordering a nexus one in 41 days when i'm 22 months into my t-mobile contract. Could you please link us to a news article that talks about this. Thanks

I was on someone else's computer and don't have the link for it though. Sorry.

Id sell this and buy a new one.

Android Touch said:
I was on someone else's computer and don't have the link for it though. Sorry.
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Well I went searching on google and I didn't see anything close to what this title suggests. I'm refering to rumors too. Oh well =(

Android Touch said:
There has been rumors floating around about it.
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No there haven't.

well... technically he just started one

I don't know if the newer batch of Nexus One will have this new feature/digitizer technology, but endgadget did mentioned that HTC droid incredible does uses this new technology.

that would blow

"People wildly speculating on these forms" != "There has been rumors floating around about it"

Haven't seen a single word about this aside from this thread.

zachthemaster said:
that would blow
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Why would that blow? How can anyone expect the hardware world not to continue evolving. There will always be something better than what you have... if you have the best right now, something is about to come out that beats it. You can't expect that new technology in an embedded device, such as a phone, will take the place of older technology used in current generation devices.
There is no reason to believe that HTC is going to change their manufacturing process for the Nexus One, or any of their currently released phones. The new technology will be in place for NEW devices, it would be quite odd for them to just start making Nexus Ones with different hardware simply because that hardware exists in the new devices they are manufacturing.

zachthemaster said:
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Not when you can still say "warranty exchange."

Actually, judging by how fast google goes through versions and software (look at Chrome browser, already at 4.0 or 5.0), google is probably already testing Nexus Two. That thing'll probably have new screen.
They got a contract with current screen manufacturer, I bet they won't worry about switching now.

Google shows that this is the start of this rumor....

zachthemaster said:
that would blow
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No it wouldn't. What would blow is if advancements stopped.

faraz1992 said:
Google shows that this is the start of this rumor....
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Lmao.
For some reason I believe this a stupid question. The bashing and returns that would occur after this change, and the complaints and people maybe even wanting their money back would be so gradual it would cause a bad costly uproar.
People would form small not needed hate groups, make *****y blog post about how Google somehow "scamed" customers, Google's name would be flamed harshly by people who want attention. I could just imagine this happening..

attn1 said:
No it wouldn't. What would blow is if advancements stopped.
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ya, it would blow if they implemented this "new technology" on a phone thats already out.
kinda like what they did with the myTouch. they add a 3.5mm jack?? thats lame because all the people who own the phone previous to this launch now want that phone but cant get it because they just bought the other version like two months earlier (and just in case you take this literally I'M GENERALIZING)
ATnTdude said:
Not when you can still say "warranty exchange."
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i agree with you...
daveid said:
Why would that blow? How can anyone expect the hardware world not to continue evolving. There will always be something better than what you have... if you have the best right now, something is about to come out that beats it. You can't expect that new technology in an embedded device, such as a phone, will take the place of older technology used in current generation devices.
There is no reason to believe that HTC is going to change their manufacturing process for the Nexus One, or any of their currently released phones. The new technology will be in place for NEW devices, it would be quite odd for them to just start making Nexus Ones with different hardware simply because that hardware exists in the new devices they are manufacturing.
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jesus christ. thank you so much for your pointless reply. I'm not an idiot, I'm saying that IT WOULD SUCK ON MY BALLSACK if they put NEWER technology on a phone that is already ON THE SHELVES.
You all take things way too seriously/literally so calm the **** down and overlook my post if you feel like you should waste your dumb energy replying to it.

zachthemaster said:
jesus christ. thank you so much for your pointless reply. I'm not an idiot, I saying that IT WOULD SUCK ON MY BALLSACK if they put NEWER technology on a phone that is already ON THE SHELVES.
You all take things way too seriously/literally so calm the **** down and overlook my post if you feel like you should waste your dumb energy replying to it.
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I wish I could give you a cup of Froyo to calm you down. ;-)
I completely agree though. Some people talk out of their butt sometimes.

Xoom Honeycomb Development

Honeycomb is going to be awesome!

off course

If they lock the bootloader down like they did the Droid X Motorola can keep it.

I hope to see custom rom, but affraid that there wil be a lock

painter_ said:
If they lock the bootloader down like they did the Droid X Motorola can keep it.
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I'm hoping that the Tegra 2 doesn't have the eFuse lock either.

I'm hoping that because Google is involved from the outset, like the Nexus phones, that this will be considered a dev device as well as a kick ass consumer product. But as a former Milestone owner, I'm going to be very wary of it nonetheless.
Moto just doesn't understand open.

It's sad what they did with the bootloader on the new line of Droid and the milestone. As my Droid one was so easy to hack it wasn't funny. But there really isn't to much I can do with my x. Although out of the box with a little adw ex my x is sweet. Although not quite like the ole incredible with miui
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i actually got to play with the prototype 2day but i didnt stop to think about the bootloader but its still f-ing awesome

adub007 said:
i actually got to play with the prototype 2day but i didnt stop to think about the bootloader but its still f-ing awesome
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Where'd you get to play with it? Care to elaborate a little more than its "f-ing awesome"?

adub007 said:
i actually got to play with the prototype 2day but i didnt stop to think about the bootloader but its still f-ing awesome
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Um... You're supposed to prove these wild statements somehow, right? I played with HTC's new tablet last week, but forgot to take a picture of it too. Or was it that they confiscated my Dinc and unrooted it after they saw I tethered it for upload the video i took of myself on it's 400 million megapixel ffc? Get the point? I like you, just not that much.
And what the hell does playing with the device have to do with the boot loader? I'm pretty sure you will need a USB cable and at least an incredible to root it, aren't you?

I def understand where your coming from but i got to test the devices cause the motorola rep for my district came to my job with it.
And i had the physical devices in my hands so in theory i would've been able to test the bootloader
No i don't have pictures of me holding the devices so all i have is my word, believe me or not i got to demo it, i guess the next time he comes with the bionic i'll make sure to sneak a picture for hard proof
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Um... You're supposed to prove these wild statements somehow, right? I played with HTC's new tablet last week, but forgot to take a picture of it too. Or was it that they confiscated my Dinc and unrooted it after they saw I tethered it for upload the video i took of myself on it's 400 million megapixel ffc? Get the point? I like you, just not that much.
And what the hell does playing with the device have to do with the boot loader? I'm pretty sure you will need a USB cable and at least an incredible to root it, aren't you?
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Did you heard that it will cost about 799$???
It's too much!!!

raptor92 said:
Did you heard that it will cost about 799$???
It's too much!!!
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Engadget is reporting that the price at Best Buy will be 699.99, which is a marked improvement over the 800 that has been making waves. That makes it much more reasonable, but I want to know about the bootloader (aka is it locked) before I buy it.

cslawren said:
Engadget is reporting that the price at Best Buy will be 699.99, which is a marked improvement over the 800 that has been making waves. That makes it much more reasonable, but I want to know about the bootloader (aka is it locked) before I buy it.
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Still is alot.....i could see the $450-500 range and this would def be a competitor for, well any tablet out there!

I just went to Motorola's FB page. I don't think it's a bad idea to start asking them to unlock their boot loaders. Maybe if enough people tell them they want it unlocked they'll start unlocking them. I see no way it can hurt.
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zillahakzor said:
I just went to Motorola's FB page. I don't think it's a bad idea to start asking them to unlock their boot loaders. Maybe if enough people tell them they want it unlocked they'll start unlocking them. I see no way it can hurt.
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I'm up for that!

zillahakzor said:
I just went to Motorola's FB page. I don't think it's a bad idea to start asking them to unlock their boot loaders. Maybe if enough people tell them they want it unlocked they'll start unlocking them. I see no way it can hurt.
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Good idea.
[Motorola's FB page]
Let's do it.
Comment on any/all of their wall posts.
//Edit: you have to "Like" them to post wall comments...

Kov695 said:
Still is alot.....i could see the $450-500 range and this would def be a competitor for, well any tablet out there!
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At that price, it would be way to cheap. We're talking about state of the art tech that completely knocks the winds out of the highest price iPad ($799-$849).
Even though I'd love to buy it for $450, I'd be worried why is was so cheap.... $699 is OK. If I had to wish a reasonable price, I'd say $599.

Damn I was just getting lots of schemes to buy one with my tax money, then you guys have to mention the bootloader!
It might be too late for the Xoom Facebook spam plan though. If its going to launch in a couple weeks they are probably already making them.
Anybody know if any Dev's have said they are definitely going to develop for it yet?

The xoom looks very cool.
but i will not buy this if moto locked the bootloader.

<Sigh> I hate Motorola

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920804
Is even the lock screen from this possible on our phone?

Yeah.. I should've known better not to click that link. Anyone who knows anything though SHOULD HAVE KNOWN when purchasing a DX what limitations we would have over some other devices.
Although that does look pretty slick, Droid Incs are iphone wannabes, can't stand 'em.

DNak206 said:
Yeah.. I should've known better not to click that link. Anyone who knows anything though SHOULD HAVE KNOWN when purchasing a DX what limitations we would have over some other devices.
Although that does look pretty slick, Droid Incs are iphone wannabes, can't stand 'em.
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Inc's are nowhere near iphone wannabes. I have both and while i love my X my incredilbe is still easier to use and hack. Title says it all especially after moto's blunder yesterday on the atrix page. Come on moto, you really arent working on anything and if you are it will probably mean a new developer device and not a fix for those of us working with the current ones.
read on for info if you havent seen it. http://phandroid.com/2011/01/19/motorola-locked-bootloaders-stay-you-can-go-elsewhere/

Motorola cleared up what that one, YouTube manager, employee said. It doesn't mean the bootloader will be unlocked, but they commented and it can only help.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/01/1...bootloaders-looks-to-partner-with-developers/

If by "cleared up" you mean heaped a load of dung over it in an attempt to hide the smell of their previous ****ty response...
yep, they did that good!

Go here
http://getsatisfaction.com/motorola/topics/bootloader-1egega
And tell Motorola what you think about their locked bootloader

That's just the acer launcher. I have a file for the liquid metal launcher.
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also. Incredibles are nothing like iPhones. They are sick ass phones. Anywhoo on the good side of things motorola either tweeted or said on facebook that they would be working towards making their phone developer phones again and marked the locked bootloader section on their support forums as "implemented"
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wad3g said:
Motorola cleared up what that one, YouTube manager, employee said. It doesn't mean the bootloader will be unlocked, but they commented and it can only help.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/01/1...bootloaders-looks-to-partner-with-developers/
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Its just for the press, they don't mean it.

DNak206 said:
Yeah.. I should've known better not to click that link. Anyone who knows anything though SHOULD HAVE KNOWN when purchasing a DX what limitations we would have over some other devices.
Although that does look pretty slick, Droid Incs are iphone wannabes, can't stand 'em.
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The inc is by far the best phone on Verizon right now in regards to hacking and ROM's. Anyone who hates on it is, well, is a hater The X is a good phone in terms of hardware, but the inc community is simply awesome. iphone it is not.
Motorola is listening guys! It may not happen with the X, 2, but I'm willing to bet the new moto phones will be more easy to manipulate. They see how it will hurt them in terms of future sales.

I really doubt it would hurt much when it comes to sales since a majority of Droid owners know nothing of the phones true potential. Although that was a crappy statement to make on motorola's part. As a consumer it really makes me think twice on what phone I will purchase next.

Gimpeh said:
I really doubt it would hurt much when it comes to sales since a majority of Droid owners know nothing of the phones true potential. Although that was a crappy statement to make on motorola's part. As a consumer it really makes me think twice on what phone I will purchase next.
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Even though the average consumer wont be rooting and what not, I'm sure many of these average users will read the comments of all the Modders and be put off on buying a moto: phone.

ksizzle9 said:
That's just the acer launcher. I have a file for the liquid metal launcher.
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You want to post it?

Which do you beleive will have better roms?

Looking to upgrade from nexus one to either atrix or galaxy sII. They both have good hardware and it would be nice to have the bigger screen of the galaxy but it doesn't really matter to me.
I don't really trust Samsung with software upgrades and I have never had a Motorola before. I think what my decision is going to come to is which one will have the most custom rom development.
Anyone have any guesses on which one you believe will have more custom rom options?

Neither. Motorola still has the encrypted bootloader and Samsung just lies about releasing updates.

I haven't been paying much attention to it, but I thought they already figured out a way to root the atrix

That has nothing to do with the bootloader.

I would choose the atrix,only cause of the massive battery.

evilkorn said:
Neither. Motorola still has the encrypted bootloader and Samsung just lies about releasing updates.
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+1
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djsaad1 said:
I haven't been paying much attention to it, but I thought they already figured out a way to root the atrix
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Problem is that you can be rooted but if the bootloader is encrypted like many Motorola's you cannot install a custom recovery to flash custom ROM's, you just have SU access being rooted.

I would take a nook color modded to have honeycomb over both

donmoosavi said:
I would take a nook color modded to have honeycomb over both
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Right, because that is a phone.

DumbUglyDragon said:
Right, because that is a phone.
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That's NOT the question of this topic, "Which do you beleive will have better roms?".
I agree with with donmoosavi. I too would take the Nook Color over anything Motorola or Samsung.

Samsung and motorola are trying to prevent installation of alternative roms. So I will avoid these.
LG maybe.

OrganizedFellow said:
That's NOT the question of this topic, "Which do you beleive will have better roms?".
I agree with with donmoosavi. I too would take the Nook Color over anything Motorola or Samsung.
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Seems to me the OP is asking the question in reference to phones, since he is looking to upgrade his Nexus One to an Matrix/GS2
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looks like the bootloader is encrypted on the atrix, that is now off the list.

djsaad1 said:
looks like the bootloader is encrypted on the atrix, that is now off the list.
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Actually the bootloader isn't encrypted, but it does perform a signature verification on the files... so the end result is the same. No custom roms as it sits right now.

Bummer.
I thought that by now, Motorola would have embraced the community.

evilkorn said:
Neither. Motorola still has the encrypted bootloader and Samsung just lies about releasing updates.
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this. and htc puts stupid sense on the phones, only sense-less makes sense for me...
thus i wait for the nexus 2, the nexus s isn't appealing at all for me.
the atrix is sweet but no stock android, encrypted bootloader, firefox on the webtop.
there's currently just no phone that is a worthy replacement imo.

dronarg said:
Samsung and motorola are trying to prevent installation of alternative roms. So I will avoid these.
LG maybe.
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This is my thought as well. I won't get another android phone without community support. After watching Vibrant & Droid X development and their troubles I've ruled out both these manufactures regardless of specs.
I expect LG to be the most open of the upcoming android dual core models. It's just a guess though.

Most definitely NOT the Atrix. XDA should let that phone die... Hit them where it actually hurts with phone sales, rather than buying it in hopes to it being cracked one day.
The SGS II looks like the way to go between those two. Unless you feel like waiting to see what HTC ends up releasing.
As for LG, I have no idea. Never owned an LG phone before... The Optimus' bezel sticks out too much along the touch screen, so that'll probably be a deal breaker for me. We'll see when it actually comes out. Till then, it's a waiting game for me.

OrganizedFellow said:
Bummer.
I thought that by now, Motorola would have embraced the community.
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The Xoom has the same oem unlock/lock features of the Nexus S but unfortunately I think that's simply because it's a pure Google experience rather than a change in Motorolas views.

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gstar_raw said:
Most definitely NOT the Atrix. XDA should let that phone die... Hit them where it actually hurts with phone sales, rather than buying it in hopes to it being cracked one day.
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It's too bad that the number if people using cooked roms are a margin of error if the phone is successful for the normal consumer. The network perception will do 20x more to hurt sales than the locked bootloader ever will.
That being said, I'd wait for HTC to announce thier next gen (pyramid et al.)
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The future of Custom Roms on the EVO 3D might be slim...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/19/htc-thunderbolt-rooted-for-real-locked-files-nearly-sour-the-de/
They got the thunderbolt rooted, but every file is locked and signed. ;(

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http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/19/htc-thunderbolt-rooted-for-real-locked-files-nearly-sour-the-de/
They got the thunderbolt rooted, but every file is locked and signed. ;(
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I can't believe this I thought HTC would never do this to the community!
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ouch. thats grim.

Honestly, I'd be very surprised if the Evo 3D was locked down like this. I'm willing to bet that Verizon asked them to make it this way, and they complied.
Sprint, on the other hand, hasn't been the type of company to try to keep everything locked down and make it harder for the dev community. Big V definitely has, as exemplified by the Droid X.
Besides, even if it does come out all locked down like that, the devs here will have it opened up within a few days.

that would have been my next question, if V had requested this setup specifically.
it would seem the "other companies" are oh-so-bunched-up re: tethering w/o a plan, being the big issue with custom ROMs. Sprint might not be as concerned (so far) about that, and thus, not concerned about rooted phones? idk... idle speculation

No surprise here. After all, they did cripple their gpus for over 4 years. This is nothing. Htc = garbage.

Hoping that this is just because of douche-baggery on Verizon's part -- that they requested the phone be totally locked down, like the Moto products that they are selling.
On the other hand, the devs only took three days to break all that ****, so perhaps it's a case of "anything you can do, we can do better," and HTC/Verizon's efforts will meet with utter #FAIL.

abduljaffar said:
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compared to what, exactly?

I an confidant I will have super user permissions and custom everything thanks to my geek friends on here.
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kingdazy said:
compared to what, exactly?
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His opinion. Take it as a grain of salt
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TonyArmstrong said:
Hoping that this is just because of douche-baggery on Verizon's part -- that they requested the phone be totally locked down, like the Moto products that they are selling.
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I'm betting that this is the case.

Am I the only one thinking: so what?
So I can't jack sense... That will do nothing to stop me from replacing the files with a CM ROM. Signing the files doesn't prevent the replacing of files...
Swyped from my pants, I'll let you figure out how.

Engadget is usually slow with these updates, they've already gotten around this issue. Thunderbolt is as open as it can get
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...orkmod-recovery-loaded-rom-floodgates-opened/

Justin.G11 said:
Am I the only one thinking: so what?
So I can't jack sense... That will do nothing to stop me from replacing the files with a CM ROM. Signing the files doesn't prevent the replacing of files...
Swyped from my pants, I'll let you figure out how.
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I think it does. I remember back when we were starting to flashing ROMs... well they had to be signed in order to be installed or the recovery program would outright refuse to put it on the phone. I guess the implication on this is that even the recovery image itself must be signed in order to install as well as the ROMs. Now, with the EVO, the recovery part does not care if the ROM zip file is signed or not (well, RA has this setting disabled so it will flash regardless) but there was one point where any file that needed to be flashed on the device needed to be signed.

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Engadget is usually slow with these updates, they've already gotten around this issue. Thunderbolt is as open as it can get
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...orkmod-recovery-loaded-rom-floodgates-opened/
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Yay!!!
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psych2l said:
Engadget is usually slow with these updates, they've already gotten around this issue. Thunderbolt is as open as it can get
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I highly doubt it is even possible for any company to completely lock out android hackers. We have some of the most knowledgeable hackers in our community, some of whom have been around for many many years and have seen there share of OS's
They can slow us down, but they can never stop us.
If they do manage to stop us then I shall move to windows 7 (highly unlikely)

starplaya93 said:
I highly doubt it is even possible for any company to completely lock out android hackers. We have some of the most knowledgeable hackers in our community, some of whom have been around for many many years and have seen there share of OS's
They can slow us down, but they can never stop us.
If they do manage to stop us then I shall move to windows 7 (highly unlikely)
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Yup and we will all get a clone of every chick we would love to smash (also highly unlikely)
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LoveisPeace2012 said:
I can't believe this I thought HTC would never do this to the community!
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id bet cash its Verizon and not HTC doing this

blackroseMD1 said:
Honestly, I'd be very surprised if the Evo 3D was locked down like this. I'm willing to bet that Verizon asked them to make it this way, and they complied.
Sprint, on the other hand, hasn't been the type of company to try to keep everything locked down and make it harder for the dev community. Big V definitely has, as exemplified by the Droid X.
Besides, even if it does come out all locked down like that, the devs here will have it opened up within a few days.
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I bet you're right, verizon is anal about locking their phones down, they are evil people! I hate verizon...

According to some of the comments it is the same old locked bootloader as the evo and incredible. I doubt HTC will try that hard to lock them down.
heck, sometimes I wonder if they give hints about security holes on purpose. Just the other day I saw something in one of the new ROM leaks that gave me some ideas