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Thought that this would need to be created since the upgrade has begun. I have 2 Eris Droids on my account and 1 has received the update but not the other. It is possible that because the other has the v3 leak already maybe it will not update until there is an update beyond 2.1. I am in the Washington DC Metro area. Which has a HUGE Verizon base.
I am committed to finding the root for this. I will work on it myself and report any progress. If anyone else wants to contribute their findings...feel free...
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Still have not achieved anything as of yet...
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No one on any of the leaks has received the OTA update. Its possible they never will, as it has been stated the leaks have a higher HBOOT than the OTA. OF course if you ask the people on the VZWSupport on twitter they all claim that the leakers will receive it before the end of the OTA period. But since no one, as far as I know, on a leak has received it I will believe it when it happens. Just my 2 cents
I agree with you on that. Its our penalty for circumventing the VERIZON way...LOL
This thread is a bit superfluous, it has been confirmed you can root the OTA update the same way you could root 1.5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681648
However, the leaked RUU updates changed the HBOOT version, where the OTA update did not. This means leakers are SOL, at least for the time being...
sorry wrong post lol
DEAd thread.
Version 3 of leak is almost identical (minus a few missing files that are not needed) to the OTA.
OTA users can root via 1.5 method.
Search function FTW.
jcase said:
DEAd thread.
Version 3 of leak is almost identical (minus a few missing files that are not needed) to the OTA.
OTA users can root via 1.5 method.
Search function FTW.
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Are you sayign Version 3 leaked can be rooted?
No, he is stating that if you went from 1.5 stock to 2.1 OTA you can root using the same method as the 1.5 -> 2.1 root.
If you have any of the leaked versions you cannot root yet.
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Are you sayign Version 3 leaked can be rooted?
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No. v3 changed the hboot version.
I am using a rooted version of 1.5 right now, I keep getting the message from Verizon if I want to update to 2.1 OTA.
Anyone know if could allow that update to download and would it work? Lets assume it does not work would it ruin my phone? Or worse case I just re-flash my phone back to rooted 1.5?
Reason I am using rooted 1.5 over any of the current rooted leaked 2.1 roms is the bluetooth is not working with my new car I picked up last weekend I am very curious to find out if the problem with bluetooth is a bug in 2.1 leaked versions or is also present in the official over the air version too.
Btw 1.5 rooted bluetooth works just fine. And my friend Droid and my wife blackberry work just fine so I know my car bluetooth is not the problem.
not only do people with the leak
not have to worry about getting the update, they also have to worry about losing their 3g, which is what happened to me when the official verizon ota update hit. lucky for me, the local store didnt know i root and ordered me a replacement since i was under warrantee. i think my rooted phone and verizon kept trying to push the ota update back to each other freezing up my 3g speed.
Now After weeks of hard work regaw finally rooted the Official 2.27.651.5 ruu update yesterday Intrustions HERE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6686395&postcount=1
Well it seems sprint is hard at work to patch the exploit to regain root. They are pushing 2.27.651.6 OTA (over the air) update today. do not download or install untill it has been verified safe, it is beleived to be a patch to fix the root exploit.
This is just a friendly warning.
UDATED INFO-----------------
Pleased Do not get the RUU from either sprint or htc as this has been updated to the new version, if you do you will most likely lose root
Android info on rom
ModelID: HERO20000
CIDNUM: SPCS_001
MainVer: 2.27.651.6
it is still listed as 2.27.651.5
nfinitefx45 said:
Now After weeks of hard work regaw finally rooted the Official 2.27.651.5 ruu update yesterday Intrustions HERE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6686395&postcount=1
Well it seems sprint is hard at work to patch the exploit to regain root. They are pushing 2.27.651.6 OTA (over the air) update today. do not download or install untill it has been verified safe, it is beleived to be a patch to fix the root exploit.
This is just a friendly warning.
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I figured this would be for EVO only to fix their SDcard issues.
it is only for the EVO. only update for heros that ive heard of is the gsm heros getting updated to 2.1 and thats it.
Just checked for firmware update, No Update Available.
Why is this posted here OP, is there something you know that this will be pushed to us Hero owners too?
I did the RUU then root fix, after starting up i got notified about an update also. So hmmmm. Maybe something in the update makes the system think it's an evo.
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I did the RUU then root fix, after starting up i got notified about an update also. So hmmmm. Maybe something in the update makes the system think it's an evo.
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You need to do the optional Cert stuff at the bottom of the guide to disable OTA updates.
Well there are reports that Sprint HERO customers have recieve a notification of an update. So I figure better safe then sorry to atleast post the info....
Besides I'd rather be wrong on this then to not post anything and have people updating to find out it was true.
If they want to remove my post then that is fine. Also I posted this hear for any new hero owners that may have just started exploring the options to root there Hero's
Have a great day, and hopefully I am wrong about the update.
The sprint community forums has confirmed that there is an update available directly from HTC. There are posts at various android forums that is confirming an EVO update this morning to fix the sdcard issue also patches the root exploit. Most people are saying that this OTA update for the Hero patches root as well.
I can confirm that there is an update for the HERO today also, "System Upgrade 2.27.651.6 (3.17 MB)" has come up on my HERO
ok, well that proves me wrong. sorry about that. in any case, does anybody know what the update does?
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ok, well that proves me wrong. sorry about that. in any case, does anybody know what the update does?
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Probably patches root.
I find it hard to belive hero has had a root exploit less than 24 horus and sprint already has a patch for it.
The hero uses the same exploit as the EVO and the EVO patch today gets rid of root. Putting two and two together means that this update was probably really easy for them to push out.
No official list out yet but with 3.17MB, there's gotta be more than just regaining root. I would hope anyway. There's so many other useful things they could update.
Just renamed system/etc/security/otacerts.zip TO /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip.bak using root explorer.
That should hold em.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
On the How to Root Sprint 2.1 Release thread, someone updated to the 2.1 RUU from Sprint website today and it put the .6 version on (or at least updated immediately) and they lost root. However, the team is trying to see if they can gain it back or at lease roll back to the .5 version.
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I find it hard to belive hero has had a root exploit less than 24 horus and sprint already has a patch for it.
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The exploit is based off of the EVO exploit, which was announced last week. Due to the similarity it may be more believable.
I just update the info on the first page I have downloaded and extracted both from sprint and htc and it is confirmed to be the new version
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...-update-available-for-htc-evo-4g-and-htc-hero
Sprint says it only fixes the SD Card issue and the "Security Vulnerability" on the Evo, so obviously the Hero update was just patching root.
I find it really ... annoying.. that all they did was concentrate on patching root.... That should be SOOO far down on their priority level.
And hopefully, my comment will be seen by a lot of people, albeit a rude one, but my thoughts none the less...
okay guys, I tried to figure this out without bothering yall, but my newb knowledge is limited and I'm confused as hell. I was planning on rooting my phone today after reading about all the information I've been collecting from you guys, but now that I have updated my phone, will Toast's method using those files still allow me to root? Or do I need new files in order to root my phone? I see some files on developer page on new root but I'm confused if those are for phones already rooted or not...ahhhh
so I guess I'm asking is..if you have stock phone with new update applied, how do I go about rooting my evo?
We don't know yet. You should not have updated.
Quick and straight to the point, thanks for your reply. I guess I'm a motherfreakin idiot with the worst timing in the world for things like this. FML
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We don't know yet. You should not have updated.
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quick question; if i root with Toast's method, then install the rooted updated rom that's in the dev section (by Calkulin), that should be fine, right?
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quick question; if i root with Toast's method, then install the rooted updated rom that's in the dev section (by Calkulin), that should be fine, right?
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So in order to fully root and nand unlock stock evo with new update, all I have to do is follow Toast's step 1&2 then apply the new rooted update on developer site? just wanna get things crystal clear so I don't risk bricking my evo..
I don't know or think it has been confirmed to work with the new update yet.
Toast step 1 will root the phone
Toast step 2 will unlock nand
Installing the new rooted update will flash the stock sprint rom without breaking your root.
mizerab1e said:
So in order to fully root and nand unlock stock evo with new update, all I have to do is follow Toast's step 1&2 then apply the new rooted update on developer site? just wanna get things crystal clear so I don't risk bricking my evo..
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No. We don't even know if you can use Toast's method to root it. You can be the guinea pig and post results, though!
initial said:
yup.
Toast step 1 will root the phone
Toast step 2 will unlock nand
Installing the new rooted update will flash the stock sprint rom without breaking your root.
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There is some info going around in dev forum saying Toast's method will not work if you have the new OTA update applied on stock EVO saying you will get error messages and stuff although it will not brick your phone which is adding to more confusion..
has anyone successfully rooted their stock evo with new OTA update applied? or do I need to wait until devs come up with new files needed to root the evo?
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There is some info going around in dev forum saying Toast's method will not work if you have the new OTA update applied on stock EVO saying you will get error messages and stuff although it will not brick your phone which is adding to more confusion..
has anyone successfully rooted their stock evo with new OTA update applied? or do I need to wait until devs come up with new files needed to root the evo?
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All you have to do is place a file in the root of your SD card and reboot the phone. Try it out and post your results!
mizerab1e said:
Quick and straight to the point, thanks for your reply. I guess I'm a motherfreakin idiot with the worst timing in the world for things like this. FML
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You and me both my friend, you and me both. Sat there as the update came up and thought, I bet this is going to prevent me from rooting today ...
Yeah, ALL root is broken if you install the OTA.
Okay so I've been digging around and asking questions in dev forum, seems like there is no way for Stock EVO with OTA update to root their EVO yet. What bothers me is that I haven't seen a single post from a dev announcing that they are working on new root methods for Stock EVO with new OTA update.. they seem to be more concerned about fixing the issue around previously rooted EVOs, and I'm afraid we are getting left out... I hope this isn't the case, and hopefully one of our brilliant devs will give the new stock evo with OTA update owners some attention to this matter.
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Okay so I've been digging around and asking questions in dev forum, seems like there is no way for Stock EVO with OTA update to root their EVO yet. What bothers me is that I haven't seen a single post from a dev announcing that they are working on new root methods for Stock EVO with new OTA update.. they seem to be more concerned about fixing the issue around previously rooted EVOs, and I'm afraid we are getting left out... I hope this isn't the case, and hopefully one of our brilliant devs will give the new stock evo with OTA update owners some attention to this matter.
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They're busy working on the kernel. Everybody was warned not to accept the OTA and those of us that chose to do it have to lie in our beds until the developers get around to it.
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They're busy working on the kernel. Everybody was warned not to accept the OTA and those of us that chose to do it have to lie in our beds until the developers get around to it.
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Seems like that is the case, someone from dev forum suggested that downgrading the OTA to previous one then rooting might wield some fruit, If I can figure out how to do that I'll be more than happy to be a guinea pig for you guys.
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All you have to do is place a file in the root of your SD card and reboot the phone. Try it out and post your results!
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I'm not quite sure which file you're talking about, could you elaborate some more?
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Okay so I've been digging around and asking questions in dev forum, seems like there is no way for Stock EVO with OTA update to root their EVO yet. What bothers me is that I haven't seen a single post from a dev announcing that they are working on new root methods for Stock EVO with new OTA update.. they seem to be more concerned about fixing the issue around previously rooted EVOs, and I'm afraid we are getting left out... I hope this isn't the case, and hopefully one of our brilliant devs will give the new stock evo with OTA update owners some attention to this matter.
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They busted their asses to get root the first time, and, as of right now, every EVO that you buy is capable of being rooted. Only people who update without heeding the warnings are affected, so it is kind of hard to convince a dev to throw down all of their current work to go back and try to solve this AGAIN. It should be a general rule of thumb that you NEVER install manufacturer's updates on any piece of electronics that you are interested in hacking/modifying/changing in any way. 99% of the time they provide some kind of security fixes that are not announced.
mizerab1e said:
Seems like that is the case, someone from dev forum suggested that downgrading the OTA to previous one then rooting might wield some fruit, If I can figure out how to do that I'll be more than happy to be a guinea pig for you guys.
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It doesn't work. I've already tried it. The bootloader is locked.
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They busted their asses to get root the first time, and, as of right now, every EVO that you buy is capable of being rooted. Only people who update without heeding the warnings are affected, so it is kind of hard to convince a dev to throw down all of their current work to go back and try to solve this AGAIN. It should be a general rule of thumb that you NEVER install manufacturer's updates on any piece of electronics that you are interested in hacking/modifying/changing in any way. 99% of the time they provide some kind of security fixes that are not announced.
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I have no doubt in my mind the devs are doing everything they can to provide us with their brilliant work, I have no one but myself to blame for updating the OTA without heeding their warnings. I'm sure once the devs iron out all the issues with previously rooted system, they will get around to us as they always have. I just wish there was any way I can contribute to putting some light onto this matter for those who made the mistake of updating their OTA..
Yeah, was kicking myself as I knew it was a mistake.
Am willing to try out some ish too, that is if an extra Guinea is needed.
Just checkin'...TIA
JC
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Just checkin'...TIA
JC
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They usually release only to a few thousand at a time the first few days, then up to 10,000 a day a few days later or something like that, so you might not get it till next week if its truly coming out.
They also have typically announced the update in the Verizonwireless.com forums under the android\incredible section. Until you see it there I would consider it a rumor.
Im just wondering if we will even get the ota if we're rooted or if we will have to unroot first.
According to this, the update is for real:
w ww.droid-life.com/2010/07/16/breaking-droid-incredible-ota-update-is-go/
Oops...can't post a link yet.
hey OP, make this a poll
I've been seeing it everywhere, but haven't gotten it yet.
JTCGiants56 said:
Im just wondering if we will even get the ota if we're rooted or if we will have to unroot first.
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I second this question
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I second this question
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gonna have to unroot to get updates.
EDIT: I take this back. It depends on your version. If you have an older version of software and you have not turned off notifications you will get the notification to update. If, however you're running a froyo ROM then my understanding is that you won't see the update.
Been on all the android forums today , so far nobody has gotten the update OTA.
If it was out today vzw would confirm it like they did when we got the first update.
All I heard today was a friend of a friend got the update , RIGHT !
Verizon hasn't released the "official" OTA, but there is a leaked version that people are downloading and installing. It appears to be authentic, but since not an OTA may affect future Radio updates if you install it. Plenty of info over at the Droid Forum.
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Verizon hasn't released the "official" OTA, but there is a leaked version that people are downloading and installing. It appears to be authentic, but since not an OTA may affect future Radio updates if you install it. Plenty of info over at the Droid Forum.
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Which Droid forum?
this droid forum for one thing. Check in the development section and you will see several threads with leaked ota discussing this
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I'm really anxious to get the update, but I'm going to wait for the OTA. I updated my Eris with a leaked OTA, and I ended up regretting it. It made rooting much more difficult, and stopped me from getting the final OTA.
bearmacerick said:
I'm really anxious to get the update, but I'm going to wait for the OTA. I updated my Eris with a leaked OTA, and I ended up regretting it. It made rooting much more difficult, and stopped me from getting the final OTA.
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Do you know how it stopped you from getting the final OTA? i would think if you wiped and went back to a stock ROM the network wouldn't know the difference.
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Do you know how it stopped you from getting the final OTA? i would think if you wiped and went back to a stock ROM the network wouldn't know the difference.
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Nope. Known issue with the Eris leak.
Well, I'm not sure if if I have the OTA or not, or just part of it.
I rooted with the original instructions, then updated everything with Unrevoked 3.1. Stock ROM installed, have working WIFI tether.
Yesterday, got a message in my notification bar that a Verizon widget was available. I can now add a new Data Usage widget to my desktop, which says "Data Usage 0.0/0 MB Estimate as of N/A". Not sure why it isn't updating, but it's possible that it's related to me having a corporate rather than a personal account.
Never got a prompt to install any OTA. Tethering still works.
Hardware version 0002, Firmware version 2.1-update1
So maybe the Verizon widget was pushed by itself without the full OTA since I don't have the standard recovery?
FYI, the OTA has been halted in favor of packaging it up with the official Android FroYo v2.2 update. So instead up two OTA's we will have one OTA to rule them all!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729749
Even better! I assume the recommendation then is to unroot?
greno1 said:
Even better! I assume the recommendation then is to unroot?
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No, the recommendation would probably be to hold your horses and wait till the OTA get's patched so we can simply upgrade without any hassle.
Ok so I rooted my phone a couple days ago. Nothing more, just a root.
Question is, will I still be able to get Froyo when Samsung finally releases it or did rooting mess that up?
No one knows cause, frankly, no one has tested it out yet.
Best bet would be to unroot and update just to avoid problems.
^ no.
^^ you will still get the OTA. If you accept it, you will lose root. Just wait for those on here to get the official with root and you can update manually.
This has been posted many times.