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hey guys. I am pretty close to buying the HD2. I will be comming from Android, and I really like the free applications...but as far as I hear, win 6.5 does not offer many free apps...mostly everything is paid... am I wrong? is there any place other than marketplace to download apps, safely?
Also, one quick question: why sould i flash a coocked rom? how does it help? i know rooting my g1 was of great help, but does HD2 matter without that?
I hope I post in the correct place, if not please move this post to the appropriate place.!
thank you.
Not the correct place to post, but just like rooting your G1 flashing roms on your HD2 provides improvements to your phone such as updates to the OS, speed, and etc. As far as "free"... there really isn't anywhere else to get them if by free you mean actually free. There are warez sites out there, but we don't condone that here, that is for you to find out on your own. I came from Android (Nexus One) and am happy here with my HD2. The choice is yours.
I'm new to WinMo, but I've found a few sites to use as app-libraries.
http://www.bestwindowsmobileapps.com
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net
http://hd2apps.blogspot.com
Not all of those are free, but a lot are. If you need a particular function, more than likely, you can find a free app for it.
Also Microsoft announced the other day they were doing some sort of expansion to the Marketplace, so it should be easier to find apps.
HD2
Hello,
I too am a ex-android user. Had G1, Mytouch, Cliq. The HD2 is far away the fastest phone I have ever used. The chefs on this site are amazing, and I for one I believe there will be a day soon when we Hd2 users will have the ability to boot into Android if we want. And you never know, Windows 7 may be in the future too. If you get the HD2, you wont be disappointed.
Good luck!
fhaines
Coming From a Iphone 2g and A t-mo G1 I will say the hd2 is a pretty big change. In some respects I miss android but I am very happy with the hd2. The screen is incredible and its so thin. I laugh when I see iphone users. As far as app a lot are pay. that can be a good or a bad thing. No one wants to develop for a platform where they wont get paid for
I still have my iPhone...my wife has a mytouch.
Other than the Apps, neither the iPhone or mytouch have anything on the HD2.
Apps are a big deal to some people though, and there aren't very many on the HD2...so that's certainly something to think about. For me, the apps got old after awhile, and I hardly ever used them any more. I made too many stupid impulse purchases on apps I used once and never opened again. Most of them are pointless.
Stupid Question
Dude, either you get it or you don't... its a dumb question bro, sorry.
I'm buying an HD2 for all the wrong reasons (same reason as I bought the Touch Pro 2), I'm getting it in the hope that it will at least be able to dual-boot android in the future, at best, have native android.
When I saw the Supersonic, I was excited except for the fact that it's a CDMA device and I like T-Mobile better than sprint. My gut tells me that there'll be a GSM version of the Supersonic, but I'm noticing an HTC trend and I think that if such a device were made in GSM, it will be made for ATT's bands and not T-Mobile's.
I'm very capable of making my own builds for the Dream (I'm running a near-perfect copy of the nexus one 2.1 on my Dream), so I know that (other than the screen size) I can make my dream offer a similar experience. I was also making my own Android builds for the Rhodium before I returned it in expectance of the HD2. I'm attracted to the idea of a dual-boot Winmo-Android, so the HD2 is looking more and more attractive but the unlocked device's been out for so long in europe that I'm pretty sure a new, better device will come out for T-Mo US soon after I get the HD2 that I'll regret having it.
Gosh, I'm torn. It's such a sexy device (were it not for the lack of a physical keyboard, it'd be perfect).
They're sold out online, so I havent been able to upgrade yet, I'm just hoping that HTC announces something new for T-Mo us that will make me want to abandon my dream finally (the hypexus one didn't cut it for me) before I'm able to upgrade.
i was wondering who in here has come over to this phone from a blackberry.
likes? dislikes?
i have been reading some on here about the "lag" with the HTC HD2. is this true? all the reviews i read say nothing about it. and i do not like a laggy phone. and disabling Sense makes no "sense" to me...
also, is there alot of customizations that can be done? how about updates? are they common like on a blackberry? will win7 mobile be able to be run on this? hows the battery life compared to the iphone? (that is why i dont have an iphone any more, i cant stand the battery life)
i LOVe the looks of that phone...
Thanks all!
I jummped the Blackberry ship for the HD2 last week.
I wont be able to answer ALL your questions 100%, but I will be able to help.
Lag, If you use your task manager and close the unused programs, then you *shouldnt* have any lag. I am still using the stock phone settings from T-Mo. and I am not seeing any lag at all just by closing the app/programs this way.
Customizing, The phone is still new, and the devs here are working hard to push out new stuff all the time. But the phone is VERY customisable. If your comfy working with DLL and CAB files you can change the layout/colors/buttons/exctra of the dif screanes and apps.
WP7, As of right now.. No. But the devs here are working on it, as well as the Droid os.
While Blackberry has updates offten, it still upto the provider to push em out to the end users, and T-Mo, is the worst at doing so. But you can get all the updates/mods/apps from the devs here.
Batterie life can be awesome, or it can be the bane of your phone. lol. If you keep task manager clean, the batterie will last for wat feels like for ever. I ran both of the Transformer movies from start to credits, played on the internet a bit, and made a few calls, and still had a lot of bat strength left. but if you run a lot of apps in the back ground, and dont keep your task manager clean, you will charge your phone 2x a days.
Over all im loving this phone. I have a ton to learn about it still, but it is a great phone.
My $.02
Wolfee
Thank you so much for your reply. that helped alot.
i just sold 2 of my BB's, so i am looking now at buying one i cant wait
I have to say with my blackberry experience with the one I carry around for work, a Nextel 8350i. being the network admin for the company I work for, and I also work with the BES server software. they can get pretty laggy as well at times. especially when there is alot of background data transfer going on to the BES server.
In the end i prefer my HD2 to blackberry. I consider the BB a good platform for someone who wants something that just works, and arent very technically minded like the people I work with. I can already imagine the issues Id run into trying to introduce the WinMo platform there.
WinMo is good for technical users that like to tweak and customize and can live with or work around the occasional bug, and are able to figure things out for themselves or with the help of a support forum like this
I would never recommend WinMo for someone that requires hand holding with anything technical/computer related. it just becomes too much of a hassle and waste of time for me having to support them.
great post...that makes me feel better to. i feel the same way, i have owned alot of blackberrys and they do lag alot more.
and i am one who LOVES to tinker with things..so i am thinking i might like this better...are there ways to recover if you play TO much and brick your phone?
also i cant seem to find any screen shots of what the sms inbox looks like? was wondering. is it threaded messages?
IF you successfully install HSPL, the chances of really "bricking" your HD2 are pretty low. The worst thing you can do "brick" a TMOUS HD2 is to flash an incompatible Radio (one with ...51... in the identifier string). As long as you stay with T-Mobile compatible Radios/ROMs, you should be fine.
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great post...that makes me feel better to. i feel the same way, i have owned alot of blackberrys and they do lag alot more.
and i am one who LOVES to tinker with things..so i am thinking i might like this better...are there ways to recover if you play TO much and brick your phone?
also i cant seem to find any screen shots of what the sms inbox looks like? was wondering. is it threaded messages?
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Yeah, it has threaded sms messages. And there are almost always ways to recover your phone from bricking it, unless you flash the wrong radio, like he said in the post above. Just don't flash ones with .51 in them and your fine. Odds are you won't even need to flash your radio, so it's nothing to worry about. Good luck with your new HD2. Its the most versatile, powerful phone when you learn to use it well.
Yeah, I was a fellow BlackBerry user. I've had 2 in past... and my most recent device was the BlackBerry 9700.
I certainly miss the days where I'd manage to squeeze 70 hours out of a single charge cycle.
But nevertheless, I am absolutely in love with the HD2. Plus, I've owned countless HTC products, and I'm always left satisfied and smiling...
THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!
(I couldn't help myself...)
i JUST got it! walmart had one left and i had a gift certificate. omg i love it alreay, and i have not even started to play with it. Guys i need your help...
what do i do first? updates? how do i know what updates to do? are there any tutorials in here i can read about noobs? i want to make sure mine is up to date for sure...but so far i love it. what a nice screen and feel...
LOVE IT!
I just upgraded from a Blackberry curve, and from an IT professional's standpoint, I love this phone. The ability to tinker, the software community here, multimedia capabilities, and the tools built in (wifi access point, slacker, etc.) are a welcome breath of fresh air to having a smart phone.
i have been looking and reading, but im getting a little confused. where do i go to find any updates for my phone? i cant seem to find any on the HTC website?
dvigue said:
i have been looking and reading, but im getting a little confused. where do i go to find any updates for my phone? i cant seem to find any on the HTC website?
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Try this:
http://www.htc.com/europe/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=all
But, I am not sure whether they are for EU or US versions.
EDIT: Just realized the link is for the EU version...here is the link for the US version....no updates ATM but keep an eye out
http://www.htc.com/us/support/t-mobile-hd2/downloads/
oh ok, that is what i wondered...so there are NO updates for the tmobile version? is that becasue i already have a newer ROM with all those updates on it? my rom is Dated 2/22/10 and is version 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWe
is this because the tmobile version just came out?
dvigue said:
oh ok, that is what i wondered...so there are NO updates for the tmobile version? is that becasue i already have a newer ROM with all those updates on it? my rom is Dated 2/22/10 and is version 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWe
is this because the tmobile version just came out?
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For this to be a smooth transition you must realize this is a completely different experience. There will not be a lot, if any, official updates. What there will be is unofficial/leaked updates that are implemented in custom (cooked) roms. Some of these will be leaked from Microsoft and some will be released from HTC but TMobile USA will most likely not leak any. Don't panic though, because this is why we love XDA Devs so much.
You will need to read MSkips tutorial on flashing HardSPL. HSPL will allow you to flash these custom roms and a few other things. These custom roms will often be cutting edge so read which ones you really want because some will simply be going for speed, others looks and others stability. There are some great cooks around here who actually combine all three.
I write this because you are already panicking on a lack of updates. That's just not how it works here so you have to let it go. You don't find the same OS version on every model like in BlackBerry or Iphone over here. Older models are having roms cooked for them that include what only the new ones have out the box because many of the older phones here don't have the memory or are simply out of the loop for the carrier and HTC. My 8525 was like that. I'm just explaining so you understand the landscape better.
The best way to succeed here is to search and ask questions once you can't find the answers. Most of the stuff you have questions about has been asked and answered before (most but not all). Make sure to read in this forum and the other HD2 forum because the phones aren't that different. If you have a question or concern about a specific program or rom make sure you ask the question in that thread and not create a new thread.
Welcome to WinMo and XDA Devs. Also our TMo USA HD2's do have the latest official updates.
Hope your htc hd2 blows up! The starter of this thread is a joke! He bothers me for two days texting me as early as 5am saying he wants the phone please dont sell, as he's waiting for the money. We make a deal after going back and fourth on text messages. He tells me a few hours later he's not buying because he bought it locally at walmart. WHAT A PATHETIC JERK!! I ^&%^ wasted my time taking pix to send him just for him to take this whole thing as a JOKE! I lost out on another potential deal because this idiot agreed on buying it. BE AWARE of this LOSER!!!
addicus said:
For this to be a smooth transition you must realize this is a completely different experience. There will not be a lot, if any, official updates. What there will be is unofficial/leaked updates that are implemented in custom (cooked) roms. Some of these will be leaked from Microsoft and some will be released from HTC but TMobile USA will most likely not leak any. Don't panic though, because this is why we love XDA Devs so much.
You will need to read MSkips tutorial on flashing HardSPL. HSPL will allow you to flash these custom roms and a few other things. These custom roms will often be cutting edge so read which ones you really want because some will simply be going for speed, others looks and others stability. There are some great cooks around here who actually combine all three.
I write this because you are already panicking on a lack of updates. That's just not how it works here so you have to let it go. You don't find the same OS version on every model like in BlackBerry or Iphone over here. Older models are having roms cooked for them that include what only the new ones have out the box because many of the older phones here don't have the memory or are simply out of the loop for the carrier and HTC. My 8525 was like that. I'm just explaining so you understand the landscape better.
The best way to succeed here is to search and ask questions once you can't find the answers. Most of the stuff you have questions about has been asked and answered before (most but not all). Make sure to read in this forum and the other HD2 forum because the phones aren't that different. If you have a question or concern about a specific program or rom make sure you ask the question in that thread and not create a new thread.
Welcome to WinMo and XDA Devs. Also our TMo USA HD2's do have the latest official updates.
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Great info....i really enjoyed your post...I cant wait to strart learning more and more about this phone. I really lucked out. My local walmart had only 1 left, and i had a gift card so i got it at a good price. I have had the iphone and this is so much better....i cant wait to start to customize it...
Thanks gang!
jain75 said:
Hope your htc hd2 blows up! The starter of this thread is a joke! He bothers me for two days texting me as early as 5am saying he wants the phone please dont sell, as he's waiting for the money. We make a deal after going back and fourth on text messages. He tells me a few hours later he's not buying because he bought it locally at walmart. WHAT A PATHETIC JERK!! I ^&%^ wasted my time taking pix to send him just for him to take this whole thing as a JOKE! I lost out on another potential deal because this idiot agreed on buying it. BE AWARE of this LOSER!!!
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I really don't know what to say about this. Did I talk with him about buying his phone yes, did we talk back and fourth all day about it? yes. Isn't that what craigslist is all about? bartering, making deals etc? it was at the last moment when i found out a local walmart had one HD2 left at the same price he was selling it at, and i had a gift card so it was even cheaper, and it was 5 min from my house (for returns etc) so that is why i backed out. I am in no way a "scammer" because of this. sorry, im not.
I apologized multiple times, and he wont accept, so there is no more that I can do. I even tried a few contacts to see if they would buy it from him. I cant do any more...
on a positive, Jain75 was Very good with communication, and answered all my questions i had about the sale. he did take multiple pictures for me like i had asked. I had asked for all of that, because i was sending someone 450 dollars whom i did not know, so i wanted all the proof that the phone was legit that i could get. and he did give that all to me.
again, i feel really bad, but what else can i do? i have had MANY MANY people say "yeah ill buy that, let me get back to you" and i never hear back. at least i told him the truth,....
I just recently came over from a blackberry storm 2 to hd2 April 1. Let me say that the HD2 is a totally different experience from blackberry. I loved how the blackberry managed my business OTOH it sucked for pleasure. With the HD2 you get both business and pleasure.
HTC blows blackberry out of the water to me, at least this hd2 does. By that I mean large screen, plenty of themes, apps, etc. Not the same old tired interface as blackberry. It has NO LAG WHATSOEVER. This phone has all my needs met and more.
Only thing about windows is you have to find roms,apps, etc instead of it being in a central location.
I will be using this phone for awhile, t-mobile is crappy in my area so I unlocked to at&t.
I carry a BB Tour and a HD2 right now.
The only two things I like about the BB over the HD2 are the battery life of the BB and the keyboard. I HATE the HD2 on screen keyboard. Even swipe blows.
But if you are anything like me, it's all about the Apps (quality Apps, that is). The HD2 is my media phone, hands down (better than my iPhone). The BB is the work horse and back up music player.
HotShotAzn said:
I carry a BB Tour and a HD2 right now.
The only two things I like about the BB over the HD2 are the battery life of the BB and the keyboard. I HATE the HD2 on screen keyboard. Even swipe blows.
But if you are anything like me, it's all about the Apps (quality Apps, that is). The HD2 is my media phone, hands down (better than my iPhone). The BB is the work horse and back up music player.
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I hate the onscreen keyboard too lol. I have been trying to find another input keyboard that somewhat resembles blackberry.
Actually this HD2 can do it all. Give it a try. I use it for my business and media. I plug my phone up to my car everyday for media and it charges it as well.
I know you guys hate it when people ask
"WHATS THE BEST ROM"
so thats not what this is about. I have done some searching, and it looks like whenever someone asks that, the response is that there are a bunch of good ones, and the "BEST" depends on what you need to use it for.
Well, I am picking up a Leo today, i will be trading my iphone 3gs 16gb for it. Unless i get shouting overwhelming opposition saying its a bad idea. which i would listen to.
I could care less about windows mobile and am not a business man. I dont care about apointments, spreadsheet, ect.
All i care about is the internet, text messaging and MMS, and music. Maybe the occasional game here or there to pass time. I dont need anything extra, but Id love to be able to avoid the true windows mobile behind the phone as much as possible. (why trade, i know right? well i dont like mac. and everyone and their mother has an iphone)
So, in light of that, can anyone here please offer me some advice? Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. If you have multiple suggestions that fit my needs, I dont mind trying a couple out. I had a T Mobile Wing back in the day(ghetto processor and no ram) and i flashed a few roms, so i should be able to figure it back out relatively easily.
Thanks!
Simple answer. Read and keep flashing until you find the right one for what you install and how you use your phone! Good luck.
haha sounds like a good idea.
could anyone point me in the right direction for a few good, stable lightweight ones? speed with minimal crapware, although i do like aesthetically pleasing features.
do you need chinese input?
if yes...u only got 3 choices like me...hehe
Merlion, MaesusLeo, or Flashmore Sense.
if u don't need chinese input, then you will be spoilt for choices.
there are just too many to list.
u can start by trying Energy Rom by NRGZ28 and play from there.
regardless of what you flash...u will keep flashing as it never is enough.
read the rom details before u flash...some includes a lot of extras which u may not need
please also understand most are provided free by the cookers...so pls don't complain if one doesn't satisfy you...just move on...hehe
however...cookers also welcome feedbacks.
haha, yes i know i hear that you get addicted to flashing. However, id like to be able to find a good one that works and stick with it, until we get a WM7 or android port
Maybe?
With the things you mentioned I think you might be better with Iphone. Unless you like to tweek, change things, this phone does not have all the free apps that you have. The 1's for hd2 are mostly useful. I love the phone. But you do need to tweek it to your tastes.
cbruffin said:
I know you guys hate it when people ask
"WHATS THE BEST ROM"
so thats not what this is about. I have done some searching, and it looks like whenever someone asks that, the response is that there are a bunch of good ones, and the "BEST" depends on what you need to use it for.
Well, I am picking up a Leo today, i will be trading my iphone 3gs 16gb for it. Unless i get shouting overwhelming opposition saying its a bad idea. which i would listen to.
I could care less about windows mobile and am not a business man. I dont care about apointments, spreadsheet, ect.
All i care about is the internet, text messaging and MMS, and music. Maybe the occasional game here or there to pass time. I dont need anything extra, but Id love to be able to avoid the true windows mobile behind the phone as much as possible. (why trade, i know right? well i dont like mac. and everyone and their mother has an iphone)
So, in light of that, can anyone here please offer me some advice? Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. If you have multiple suggestions that fit my needs, I dont mind trying a couple out. I had a T Mobile Wing back in the day(ghetto processor and no ram) and i flashed a few roms, so i should be able to figure it back out relatively easily.
Thanks!
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If you don't like WinMobile, but you do like the iphone, I recommend keeping your iphone. The HD2 is a WinMo device, so it takes work and tweaking to get it the way you want. You are not going to be able to avoid WinMo behind it, and the fact that you say that, I think you will regret your decision. Don't get me wrong, I love my HD2, as I have loved all my WinMo devices. I bought this phone because it is WinMo. If you're hoping for an android or WP7 port, I'd just wait for a WinPhone7 or android device, as it's not guaranteed we will have fully functional ports for either on the HD2.
Any rom you flash is still going to be WinMo. And the sense interface that covers up WinMo has some issues with text messages and MMS, which you say is important to you. You will not get an iphone like experience from a HD2.
If you could care less about WinMo, THIS IS NOT THE PHONE FOR YOU. Most people you see complaining about this phone are the ones who bought it not understanding it's a WinMo phone or bought it as an "entertainment" device. It's a WinMo device. If you want a strictly entertainment device that "just works", stick with the iphone or get an android phone.
zarathustrax said:
I bought this phone because it is WinMo.
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hehe..i bought this phone bec of XDA forum!!!
which other phone has so much cooked rom to choose from?
i am a heavy outlook + msoffice user...so winmo phone makes sense
zarathustrax said:
If you don't like WinMobile, but you do like the iphone, I recommend keeping your iphone. The HD2 is a WinMo device, so it takes work and tweaking to get it the way you want. You are not going to be able to avoid WinMo behind it, and the fact that you say that, I think you will regret your decision. Don't get me wrong, I love my HD2, as I have loved all my WinMo devices. I bought this phone because it is WinMo. If you're hoping for an android or WP7 port, I'd just wait for a WinPhone7 or android device, as it's not guaranteed we will have fully functional ports for either on the HD2.
Any rom you flash is still going to be WinMo. And the sense interface that covers up WinMo has some issues with text messages and MMS, which you say is important to you. You will not get an iphone like experience from a HD2.
If you could care less about WinMo, THIS IS NOT THE PHONE FOR YOU. Most people you see complaining about this phone are the ones who bought it not understanding it's a WinMo phone or bought it as an "entertainment" device. It's a WinMo device. If you want a strictly entertainment device that "just works", stick with the iphone or get an android phone.
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Thank you for this reply. However, my only expereince with windows mobile in the past was with the t mobile wing. that thing had like a 200 mhz processor and 50 mb of ram. and it was slow and had a resistive screen. thats why i say i want to avoid windows mobile. i dont need all the extra features.
now i dont MIND tweaking it at all. as long as i can get it running smoothly to my needs.
My main problem is that my iphone wont let me use it as a portable hard drive, and i HATE having to use itunes. i hate the hoops i have to jump through to get stuff on and off of my phone, and im tired of being jailbroken just to be able to do things my old moto RAZR could do stock. This is why i wanted to switch, and someone offered me their hd2 as a trade.
jack9999 said:
hehe..i bought this phone bec of XDA forum!!!
which other phone has so much cooked rom to choose from?
i am a heavy outlook + msoffice user...so winmo phone makes sense
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Well, one of the big reasons why I still love WinMo is because of XDA forums.... where else can you find all the info you need to tweak your phone to your liking. But even with all this info, it won't make someone looking for an iphone experience happy with WinMo. WinMo is a lot more versatile and powerful, but it's definitely not as user-friendly as iphone or android phones.
cbruffin said:
Thank you for this reply. However, my only expereince with windows mobile in the past was with the t mobile wing. that thing had like a 200 mhz processor and 50 mb of ram. and it was slow and had a resistive screen. thats why i say i want to avoid windows mobile. i dont need all the extra features.
now i dont MIND tweaking it at all. as long as i can get it running smoothly to my needs.
My main problem is that my iphone wont let me use it as a portable hard drive, and i HATE having to use itunes. i hate the hoops i have to jump through to get stuff on and off of my phone, and im tired of being jailbroken just to be able to do things my old moto RAZR could do stock. This is why i wanted to switch, and someone offered me their hd2 as a trade.
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Just keep in mind it may take some work and learning to get it smooth and working the way you want. It's not "dumbed-down" for everyday people like the iphone. But, it can be so much more versatile, customizable, and powerful if you learn to use it and work around any bugs or snags you may come across. Good luck with your new device. You can find almost any info you will need on this forum.
I really like Kumars rom
If your HD2 is a us tmobile model check the HD2 tmous forum for the roms. All fantastic work.
3 different versions.
premium with some stuff added
classic with a few of the tmob apps left
lite with most everything stripped out.
zstjohn said:
I really like Kumars rom
If your HD2 is a us tmobile model check the HD2 tmous forum for the roms. All fantastic work.
3 different versions.
premium with some stuff added
classic with a few of the tmob apps left
lite with most everything stripped out.
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I seem to have forgot my most important question. Thanks for reminding me
the phone I am trading for is being used on T mobile. But I use AT&T. However, the phone is unlocked. Will it work on AT&T 3g? Or will it be like the first nexus one and only work on 2g?
cbruffin said:
I seem to have forgot my most important question. Thanks for reminding me
the phone I am trading for is being used on T mobile. But I use AT&T. However, the phone is unlocked. Will it work on AT&T 3g? Or will it be like the first nexus one and only work on 2g?
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It will only work with edge. No 3G on AT&T unless you get the australian telstra t9193 HD2. That one costs about $800 to import, though.
cbruffin said:
I know you guys hate it when people ask
"WHATS THE BEST ROM"
so thats not what this is about. I have done some searching, and it looks like whenever someone asks that, the response is that there are a bunch of good ones, and the "BEST" depends on what you need to use it for.
Well, I am picking up a Leo today, i will be trading my iphone 3gs 16gb for it. Unless i get shouting overwhelming opposition saying its a bad idea. which i would listen to.
I could care less about windows mobile and am not a business man. I dont care about apointments, spreadsheet, ect.
All i care about is the internet, text messaging and MMS, and music. Maybe the occasional game here or there to pass time. I dont need anything extra, but Id love to be able to avoid the true windows mobile behind the phone as much as possible. (why trade, i know right? well i dont like mac. and everyone and their mother has an iphone)
So, in light of that, can anyone here please offer me some advice? Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. If you have multiple suggestions that fit my needs, I dont mind trying a couple out. I had a T Mobile Wing back in the day(ghetto processor and no ram) and i flashed a few roms, so i should be able to figure it back out relatively easily.
Thanks!
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There is no best ROM. But i advise Dutty, Energy or one of CleanEx ROMS...
Mazahaka999 said:
There is no best ROM. But i advise Dutty, Energy or one of CleanEx ROMS...
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See it is all personal prefrence when it comes to ROMS, because i really love the OzRom 2.45 Spot on for my needs.
but like the guys said try a few and choose what you like, if your unwilling to try a few, Y the hell get a winmo device PMSL.
Have a go its easy as pie, the devs are kind enough to write guides for the less technical minded person, So you can't really go wrong- Well unless you dont read the threads properly.
what is rootin and what is the biggest reason for it?
also the ota update does that stop the rebootin problem i want to get this phone it will be my first smart phone n dont want to many problems
thanks in advance
clamman said:
what is rootin and what is the biggest reason for it?
also the ota update does that stop the rebootin problem i want to get this phone it will be my first smart phone n dont want to many problems
thanks in advance
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Rooting means getting full permissions to the Android system. If you don't know what Linux permissions are, don't worry about rooting; it won't have any effect on you. People generally do it to modify their phones like replacing certain software or enabling features that aren't officially supported.
No one really knows what all the OTA update covers. It's suspected it adds two features, but that's about all we know. Nonetheless, I can highly recommend the G2, even as your first smartphone. Keep in mind that most people on these forums are overstating problems, so don't listen to everything that's said here. I think short of the iPhone4, the G2 is the best phone you can buy right now. T-Mobile is definitely better than AT&T, so get the G2!
I had the same question, actually. Coming from a long line of WinMo phones myself (TP2 was my last phone, R.I.P) I get that Hard-SLP unlocking and shopping for custom roms is par the course since it's pretty much essential for the optimal WM experience, but coming over to Android and seeing how everyone is really bummed out that this phone can't Root..or at least, doesn't have one that stick, is really confusing, especially since the added "benefits" I've at least read about isn't all 'that' great...
Please excuse my ignorance on the matter, but coming from a mobile platform where modding/hacking is pretty much called for if you even plan to use the darn thing makes everything I'm experiencing from the stock Android a dream compared to its alternative.
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ryushe said:
I had the same question, actually. Coming from a long line of WinMo phones myself (TP2 was my last phone, R.I.P) I get that Hard-SLP unlocking and shopping for custom roms is par the course since it's pretty much essential for the optimal WM experience, but coming over to Android and seeing how everyone is really bummed out that this phone can't Root..or at least, doesn't have one that stick, is really confusing, especially since the added "benefits" I've at least read about isn't all 'that' great...
Please excuse my ignorance on the matter, but coming from a mobile platform where modding/hacking is pretty much called for if you even plan to use the darn thing makes everything I'm experiencing from the stock Android a dream compared to its alternative.
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What you have to remember is people will hack anything and everything, even if there's no real benefit to it. Back in the days, when G1 first came out, rooting was a big deal because it provided access to such things as apps on sd card, themes, auto-rotation, multi-touch, etc. At this point - you can get it all on stock android. Of course, there's overclocking (unnecessary on this phone), wi-fi tether (if you need it) and some further mods but it is not as critical as it used to be.
With that said... the moment permanent root is found - I'm going for it with the sole reason is because I can! Well... and because I want black notification bar
Temp root has a nice little perk.. you can restart it and it puts it back to factory if you need to have it fixed or replaced.
I am such a noob to this phone that I don't even have it yet! I have been looking to find one to play with but I have a couple of questions because even after digging about the forums and searching, some of the info seems like it could be outdated and since there are multiple OS options, it is hard for me to find anything coherent.
I do, however, have lot of experience with Android phones (rooting, installing CWM, ROMS etc).
My main question is how difficult is it for switch between ROMs and OS versions? If I put Android 2.3 on it for instance, which looks like just running an executable and maybe installing a radio and spl, is it difficult to run WP7 on the phone? I guess what I am asking is it difficult to return the phone to stock after installing Android or WP7? I am used to rooted android phones where once you have the recovery installed, flashing roms is a piece of cake. I am going to want to switch it up a lot.
I saw a posting on Craigslist for a rooted HD2 that can use t-mobile's 4G network but I don't see any posts in the forums. Is that possible or is it just craigslist noise?
Is it possible to use the WP7 marketplace on this phone? I saw an old post that said it was not possible but it may have just been old information.
Thanks!
Rich
richdaley said:
I am such a noob to this phone that I don't even have it yet! I have been looking to find one to play with but I have a couple of questions because even after digging about the forums and searching, some of the info seems like it could be outdated and since there are multiple OS options, it is hard for me to find anything coherent.
I do, however, have lot of experience with Android phones (rooting, installing CWM, ROMS etc).
My main question is how difficult is it for switch between ROMs and OS versions? If I put Android 2.3 on it for instance, which looks like just running an executable and maybe installing a radio and spl, is it difficult to run WP7 on the phone? I guess what I am asking is it difficult to return the phone to stock after installing Android or WP7? I am used to rooted android phones where once you have the recovery installed, flashing roms is a piece of cake. I am going to want to switch it up a lot.
I saw a posting on Craigslist for a rooted HD2 that can use t-mobile's 4G network but I don't see any posts in the forums. Is that possible or is it just craigslist noise?
Is it possible to use the WP7 marketplace on this phone? I saw an old post that said it was not possible but it may have just been old information.
Thanks!
Rich
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I've learned a lot in the past 6 weeks, since I bought this device.
It's very easy to root and to run Android: Flash SPL, Radio, Magldr, and then Android ROM. You can also dual boot from stock Windows Mobile 6.5
If you want to run WP7 Mango, you're options for Android become very limited. WP7 requires that it be installed on NAND. So Android would only be able to be used on SD card. The SD builds aren't necessarily as stable as the NAND builds, but are really good anyway. WP7 is also extremely picky about what SD cards it will work with. Cards may appear to be working well, but can pose massive battery drain. Trial and error is the only way to find the right card. I've got a PNY 16GB c4 and it works really well. Over 2x the battery life of my Kingston 8GB c2.
If you want to go back to stock ROM, it's easy to reflash from the bootloader and it wipes everything else out of the picture.
I'm currently dual booting WP7 and AmeriCan Android's 11/07 build w/o issue. It's easy to go back and forth. Installing WP7 and setting up for dual boot requires jumping through a few hoops, but I think it's totally worth it. I love the UI of WP7.
Yes, you can use marketplace. You'll need to connect your Windows Live ID to the phone and you'll get an error about activation. This is where you find the thread here about using the Windows Support chat function and they happily give you the activation code. You should keep this safe, as you'll need it each time you hard reset or reflash the ROM. Once Live services are active, the Marketplace works just fine.
The T-Mobile HD2 works on TMO's HSPA bands, but will only work on the 2G bands for AT&T. I had the TMO version for a few weeks, but decided I wanted to tether through Android, so I sold it and bought a Telstra HD2 from Australia and it works on AT&T HSPA.
Thank you so much for the response! Do you think it is worth trading my Samsung Galaxy S 4G for this phone? I am an HTC guy so the samsung isn't really working for me because there are not many ROMs for it.
That I can't answer, as I don't have an educated opinion. I just got the HD2 so I could play with WP7 and skirt around AT&T's data plan requirements.
richdaley said:
Thank you so much for the response! Do you think it is worth trading my Samsung Galaxy S 4G for this phone? I am an HTC guy so the samsung isn't really working for me because there are not many ROMs for it.
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Honestly,don't trade your Samsung Galaxy s 4g for this phone, but if you want to experience different types of Roms like meego,ubuntu,win7,etc and to experience htc sense then only trade your old mobi. And for your information only Android froyo runs perfectly on this phone while all other versions of android are in beta! Battery life is Bad!
My point of view is that its really easy to install roms.
I have installed Tytung 3.2a the best one^^
Thank you everybody for the information. I think I may just try to pay cash for one rather than trade my Galaxy S and then maybe sell both to upgrade my phone next year.
I like WP7 but I am pretty well indoctrinated into the Android ecosystem and I worry that I might end up with a handset that has battery issues. As an early adopter of Android, I know how frustrating it can be to have a phone battery that won't last more than a few hours.
Concerning battery, my hd2 last all the day from 7am to 10pm running Android.
So, to me, no real battery problem.
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