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Hello,
I have a new, stock ROM Aria from AT&T. With a fresh boot, i run the task killer and i have a nice 178mb of free ram. But as the day goes on it gets lower and lower, 150, 115, 80, 25 free. What is eating it up? Cache?
Thanks!
-sp00nix
sp00nix said:
Hello,
I have a new, stock ROM Aria from AT&T. With a fresh boot, i run the task killer and i have a nice 178mb of free ram. But as the day goes on it gets lower and lower, 150, 115, 80, 25 free. What is eating it up? Cache?
Thanks!
-sp00nix
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did you kill the tasks that keep opening by themselves...or ones you've used but arent using at the moment?
i run atk a few times a day
dh4645 said:
did you kill the tasks that keep opening by themselves...or ones you've used but arent using at the moment?
i run atk a few times a day
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i set it to autokill on sleep, theres only 1 app running which is the advanced task killer. When you manually kill them with the widget it reports the memory usage.
sp00nix said:
i set it to autokill on sleep, theres only 1 app running which is the advanced task killer. When you manually kill them with the widget it reports the memory usage.
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hey thanks i didnt even know that was a setting.
sorry i dont know the answer to your original Q
dh4645 said:
hey thanks i didnt even know that was a setting.
sorry i dont know the answer to your original Q
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It's cool, you learned something
Something i remembered, on my Archos 5 Advanced task kill reports on value and its built in task manager reports another, usually higher. Maybe this is a similar case. Ill try another piece of software.
Not a good idea to use a task killer as it'll actually wear our battery down faster. Anyways unused RAM is wasted RAM.
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Idk about all that. My battery is much happier keeping apps under control that are data hungry.
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sp00nix said:
Idk about all that. My battery is much happier keeping apps under control that are data hungry.
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depends on frequency of kill and what you are killing really
Coming from the cliq rooted with a 2.1 rom, atk was a necessity IMO.But ive hard that task killers are not needed with froyo and that it hurts more than it helps. But ive noticed that even with atk on froyo, apps aren't being killed unless I go to settings/applications/manage apps to force close myself. Ive tried just not force closing or killing apps and ive noticed it being a memory hog and decrease in performance and battery, but thats just my own personal testing.
What's your opinion on task killers and such? do I need it or am I better of without one?
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rosedale19 said:
Coming from the cliq rooted with a 2.1 rom, atk was a necessity IMO.But ive hard that task killers are not needed with froyo and that it hurts more than it helps. But ive noticed that even with atk on froyo, apps aren't being killed unless I go to settings/applications/manage apps to force close myself. Ive tried just not force closing or killing apps and ive noticed it being a memory hog and decrease in performance and battery, but thats just my own personal testing.
What's your opinion on task killers and such? do I need it or am I better of without one?
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I am using "advanced app killer'. A number of stock apps will restart right after, but most others will not.
I use it right after starting up, and after closing some apps (they often keep running in background). I think this is helping materially with my battery life - which is fairly good.
gaww said:
I am using "advanced app killer'. A number of stock apps will restart right after, but most others will not.
I use it right after starting up, and after closing some apps (they often keep running in background). I think this is helping materially with my battery life - which is fairly good.
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Thanks I will try that out. But yeah my battery life if pretty good when I really try haha. But yeah I've noticed apps just reopen, I guys I have to just get used to the froyo ways
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I couldnt find "advanced app killer" in the market. Is it elsewhere?
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not needed, just like gaww stated
A number of stock apps will restart right after
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is a horrible thing. the second u close an app and it instantly reopens itself your cpu shoots up 100% and you end up killing more battery by doing that.
Haven't seen the need for a task killer. I run System Panel app and what I'm seeing is the majority of the apps listed are on background and not taking up CPU power at all.
If anything, once I root, I'll probably use Autostarts just to minimize the number of apps that run at startup. But right now... not even necessary.
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not needed, just like gaww stated
is a horrible thing. the second u close an app and it instantly reopens itself your cpu shoots up 100% and you end up killing more battery by doing that.
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Total agrement here, ATK do more harm then good, There is really nothing good that it does.
30Glock said:
Total agrement here, ATK do more harm then good, There is really nothing good that it does.
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Iight makes sense to me!
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Questions go in Q&A section!
I'm so tired of this discussion to raise any of the many valid points why task killers are bad.... just don't use them lol.
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did the tutorial from the sticky titled: "HOW TO:Root, Install Clockwork, Remove Bloatware, Integrate Google, Un-root, and more"
now im constantly running a $hit load of ram, 277mb/326mb, and the phone is not particulary any faster. if anything its kinda slow actually. just really stuttery.
any tips?
yea please don't post questions on dev forum
deaffob said:
yea please don't post questions on dev forum
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so then where should i post a development question pertaining to the samsung fascinate regarding a stickied tutorial that is in the development section?
fupamobile said:
so then where should i post a development question pertaining to the samsung fascinate regarding a stickied tutorial that is in the development section?
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either post the question in the stickied topic, or in the general forum.
As to the memory usage, Android, and Linux in general, use and allocate memory differently than in Windows. High memory usage is not necessarily a bad thing due to how the system works. Odds are, there is something else that is causing your slowdown, an app that you have installed or something that you changed. Do you have a task killer installed, or do you have a bunch of widgets installed in running? Are you using TouchWiz, or another launcher? You can use an app such as Watchdog or the built in Task Manager to see if any apps are taking up a bunch of CPU time as that is what will cause more of a perceived slowness compared to high memory usage.
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either post the question in the stickied topic, or in the general forum.
As to the memory usage, Android, and Linux in general, use and allocate memory differently than in Windows. High memory usage is not necessarily a bad thing due to how the system works. Odds are, there is something else that is causing your slowdown, an app that you have installed or something that you changed. Do you have a task killer installed, or do you have a bunch of widgets installed in running? Are you using TouchWiz, or another launcher? You can use an app such as Watchdog or the built in Task Manager to see if any apps are taking up a bunch of CPU time as that is what will cause more of a perceived slowness compared to high memory usage.
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Watchdog is a great app for narrowing down CPU hungry apps.
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so then where should i post a development question pertaining to the samsung fascinate regarding a stickied tutorial that is in the development section?
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Your question has nothing to do with development, thats why it doesn't belong.
OSMonitor also works well. Sounds def like an app. Task killers, lookout (an app) and virus free (app also) have been known to cause issues and are generally culprits of lag issues. Check to make sure those aren't installed
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imnuts said:
either post the question in the stickied topic, or in the general forum.
As to the memory usage, Android, and Linux in general, use and allocate memory differently than in Windows. High memory usage is not necessarily a bad thing due to how the system works. Odds are, there is something else that is causing your slowdown, an app that you have installed or something that you changed. Do you have a task killer installed, or do you have a bunch of widgets installed in running? Are you using TouchWiz, or another launcher? You can use an app such as Watchdog or the built in Task Manager to see if any apps are taking up a bunch of CPU time as that is what will cause more of a perceived slowness compared to high memory usage.
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I did that tutorial so I am using launchpro. The only extra apps I have installed BESIDES what was needed ffor the tutorial are angrybirds, robodefense, doubletwist(with all of my music),snesoid, romgripper, and I think that's it. Nothing too crazy. Is there anyway to check if that whole voodoo thing worked? Or if I did the tutorial correctly? Oh wait, isnt there like a bench mark tester orsomething?
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Watchdog is a great app for narrowing down CPU hungry apps.
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The only widget I have is for doubletwist. But it doesnt consistently run just by having the widget on my homescreen does it? Do I still need an extra task killer app?
mexiken said:
Your question has nothing to do with development, thats why it doesn't belong.
OSMonitor also works well. Sounds def like an app. Task killers, lookout (an app) and virus free (app also) have been known to cause issues and are generally culprits of lag issues. Check to make sure those aren't installed
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See above comments. Do I really need a task killer?
no don't use a task killer, he was saying that is the mistake ppl make
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devlp1213 said:
no don't use a task killer, he was saying that is the mistake ppl make
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Then what can I do to ensure my phone is running correctly? Cause it really doesnt feel like it is.
Try Watchdog or another app that records cpu usage and see if you have a rogue app hogging cpu time. Even before installing a new rom that was cleaned up and a new kernel, I didn't have any significant lag or anything, so I'd guess that you have something running in the background causing your issues.
His lag could be from rfs working too hard.
Install one of geeknik's stupid fast kernels or install one of jt's voodoo5 kernels if you want to convert rfs to ext4. rfs and stock kernel tend to generate ridiculous lag.
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His lag could be from rfs working too hard.
Install one of geeknik's stupid fast kernels or install one of jt's voodoo5 kernels if you want to convert rfs to ext4. rfs and stock kernel tend to generate ridiculous lag.
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That is only true if he has an app that is constantly writing which means the above suggestions to find said app are the best. Also on regards to kernels only voodoo kernels will address rfs problems. Only voodoo.
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@adrynalyne If you can , let me know if there are special steps for that thing you sent me. Not getting past the samsung logo everytime.
Thanks!
So it seems like every live wallpaper slows my phone down, bigtime. All animations are VERY choppy and laggy. Seems to happen to other people using the HD2 with Android as well. Any known fix?
dont use the lives, kills batt anyways!
I don't care about battery. I'm always close to a charger.
What build/kernel are you using? Obviously the live wallpaper is going to use more system resources and slow you down a bit as well as use more battery, but it shouldn't be too bad. try overclocking your processor with setcpu that could help. Also, try restarting after applying the wallpaper or killing some background apps that you aren't using to free up memory. I love the live wallpapers too but I prefer speed and performance instead.
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What build/kernel are you using? Obviously the live wallpaper is going to use more system resources and slow you down a bit as well as use more battery, but it shouldn't be too bad. if you underclocked your processor with setcpu that could be the cause. Also, try restarting after applying the wallpaper or killing some background apps that you aren't using to free up memory. I love the live wallpapers too but I prefer speed and performance instead.
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Using the HD2 Nexus build (with the G-Sensor fix). Kernel is 2.6.32.15r8.2.
Even at 1.13GHz with performance governer enabled this happens to me too.
It's not terrible though, the animations just look choppy.
shadiku said:
Even at 1.13GHz with performance governer enabled this happens to me too.
It's not terrible though, the animations just look choppy.
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Yeah, it's annoying as hell.
See above for my kernel version...I really want to fix this. Seems almost like a video driver issue.
mine are fine with lives on, still smooth as before...must be lucky!
OrionCarl said:
mine are fine with lives on, still smooth as before...must be lucky!
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Android build? Kernel version? Radio? WinMo ROM?
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Using the HD2 Nexus build (with the G-Sensor fix). Kernel is 2.6.32.15r8.2.
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Try overclocking with setcpu as well as my other suggestions, let us know how it goes, hope it helps!
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OrionCarl said:
mine are fine with lives on, still smooth as before...must be lucky!
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What launcher are you using?
tgtoys said:
Try overclocking with setcpu as well as my other suggestions, let us know how it goes, hope it helps!
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I presume setcpu is a Market app?
Come to think of it this could be a stagefright issue. Not 100% familiar with it but i know it has something to do with video playback and chopiness, and there is a way to enable/disable it.
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agentfazexx said:
I presume setcpu is a Market app?
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You can buy it on the market as 'donationware' but you can install it from the APK here.
agentfazexx said:
I presume setcpu is a Market app?
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Yes in market it's $2.99 or it's free to xda members you just have to find the thread, make sure you read some instructions on it first
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tgtoys said:
Come to think of it this could be a stagefright issue. Not 100% familiar with it but i know it has something to do with video playback and chopiness, and there is a way to enable/disable it.
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A what issue? Don't know what 'stagefright' is.
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Android build? Kernel version? Radio? WinMo ROM?
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using vbn win rom 2.12.50.2 radio, to be honest ivew tried so many droid builds i dont know what im using!says 2.2 hd2 android pimped by CMYLXGO,kernal 2.6.32.15r8? sorry dont know more then that!!amazing build, 2 days battery, so smooth and quick!!
Hm, I'm using the HD2 Nexus build with 2.14 Radio.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793924&page=1
That build. That is the MOST stable one I've found so far. The G-Sensor even works perfectly, quite amazing.
Well I got SetCPU installed, but I don't know how to clock it higher than 998MHz...
All animated backgrounds run smooth for me. Kernel is hastarin 8.5.1 and ROM is MDJ Froyo Clean Sense v. 2.3 (old version).
Also, I run my phone at around 600 MhZ and undervolt it more than the default MDJ ROMs. Everything still runs smoothly. So it really should be running 100% smoothly on your phone - if it isn't, something is wrong with your ROM combination.
I have downloaded countless task killers but when i try to put the widget on my home screen its not there, this only occurs with the task killers and nothing else, using Euroskank 7.2.0 and Tiamat 4.1.0 if it helps. The launcher is ADW
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TechMage299 said:
I have downloaded countless task killers but when i try to put the widget on my home screen its not there, this only occurs with the task killers and nothing else, using Euroskank 7.2.0 and Tiamat 4.1.0 if it helps. The launcher is ADW
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Isn't Euroskank for the HTC Desire? Not the Evo.
souleman said:
Isn't Euroskank for the HTC Desire? Not the Evo.
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I'm not sure but all i know is that the rom is supersonic base.
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I'm not sure but all i know is that the rom is supersonic base.
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I don't remember ever seeing a rom here called Euroskank. The only one I found was for Desire, and it's based on CM7.2.
Not sure what is causing your problem, other then maybe if it isn't ported properly. That said, 99% of the time, task killers cause more battery drain on gingerbread or newer roms. They kill app's which are sitting idle in the background but will always be running. So as soon as you kill them off, they restart and are no longer idle.