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[Poll] Amount of Processes Running After Reboot

Just curious to see how many everyone here has after a reboot. I have 30.

30? Lol.
Typically I have 8 or 9 right after boot. I kill all those except my task killer, clock (for alarms) and 1 widget. Only if I go wild from app to app and not kill them all day will i get 10 to 20 things running... and even then my battery life is fine though things tend to get lil laggy
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Using Autostarts from the market. I think I have close to 30 listed as apps that will run on startup if I didnt disable them

Using Autostarts from the market. I think I have close to 30 listed as apps that will run on startup if I didnt disable them
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Yeah I am also using autostarts

is Autostart safe for this???

Android startup app = dumbest thing ever, following in the tradition of Microsoft

is Autostart safe for this???
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I've been using it for nearly 2 weeks without any problems. And remember in the market its called Autostarts, there is one named Autostart which isn't it.

Vandam500 said:
I've been using it for nearly 2 weeks without any problems. And remember in the market its called Autostarts, there is one named Autostart which isn't it.
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Woah autostarts actually prevent startup, not just killing them on startup.

[Q]Task killers?

Coming from the cliq rooted with a 2.1 rom, atk was a necessity IMO.But ive hard that task killers are not needed with froyo and that it hurts more than it helps. But ive noticed that even with atk on froyo, apps aren't being killed unless I go to settings/applications/manage apps to force close myself. Ive tried just not force closing or killing apps and ive noticed it being a memory hog and decrease in performance and battery, but thats just my own personal testing.
What's your opinion on task killers and such? do I need it or am I better of without one?
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rosedale19 said:
Coming from the cliq rooted with a 2.1 rom, atk was a necessity IMO.But ive hard that task killers are not needed with froyo and that it hurts more than it helps. But ive noticed that even with atk on froyo, apps aren't being killed unless I go to settings/applications/manage apps to force close myself. Ive tried just not force closing or killing apps and ive noticed it being a memory hog and decrease in performance and battery, but thats just my own personal testing.
What's your opinion on task killers and such? do I need it or am I better of without one?
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I am using "advanced app killer'. A number of stock apps will restart right after, but most others will not.
I use it right after starting up, and after closing some apps (they often keep running in background). I think this is helping materially with my battery life - which is fairly good.

gaww said:
I am using "advanced app killer'. A number of stock apps will restart right after, but most others will not.
I use it right after starting up, and after closing some apps (they often keep running in background). I think this is helping materially with my battery life - which is fairly good.
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Thanks I will try that out. But yeah my battery life if pretty good when I really try haha. But yeah I've noticed apps just reopen, I guys I have to just get used to the froyo ways
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I couldnt find "advanced app killer" in the market. Is it elsewhere?
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not needed, just like gaww stated
A number of stock apps will restart right after
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is a horrible thing. the second u close an app and it instantly reopens itself your cpu shoots up 100% and you end up killing more battery by doing that.

Haven't seen the need for a task killer. I run System Panel app and what I'm seeing is the majority of the apps listed are on background and not taking up CPU power at all.
If anything, once I root, I'll probably use Autostarts just to minimize the number of apps that run at startup. But right now... not even necessary.

Foo_Blyat said:
not needed, just like gaww stated
is a horrible thing. the second u close an app and it instantly reopens itself your cpu shoots up 100% and you end up killing more battery by doing that.
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Total agrement here, ATK do more harm then good, There is really nothing good that it does.

30Glock said:
Total agrement here, ATK do more harm then good, There is really nothing good that it does.
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Iight makes sense to me!
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Questions go in Q&A section!

I'm so tired of this discussion to raise any of the many valid points why task killers are bad.... just don't use them lol.
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[Q] Does Legend automatically close programs?

Hey guys. Does the HTC Legend automatically close programs after pressing the home button or the "backarrow"? My Legend seems to get slower when i've had a lot of programs open?
I've heard about some Androids which doesn't do it.

Android does it. So all Android devices will kill tasks eventually. Pressing the back button until you're back at the homescreen will ensure that the app is closed properly. If you press the home button it will "minimize" the app, and it will run in the background. If you have apps in the background then Android will eventually kill them when it needs the memory. Don't use a task killer.
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TheGrammarFreak said:
Don't use a task killer.
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Why not? I use it on occasion, I's good to have a controll over your phone, plus I'm not sure how android handles turning those apps off when screen is turned off...So by killing before turning screen-off should preserve battery...no?

http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/

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http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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relly interesting issue.
many thanks i'll aply from now

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http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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Well, its a much-debated issue. But in my personal experience, if I dont use task-killers, my legend becomes too sluggish. I would recommend all Legend users to use one.
In my personal opinion, Relying on Andoid's own task management might be ok for high end devices with more RAM. but not for devices with low memory like legend.

Same here but after 2-3 days even task killers don't work, only rebooting works
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I haven't used a task killer on my Legend in 5 months, and it never gets sluggish. Regardless of whether ir not I use CM.
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ashishvirmani said:
Same here but after 2-3 days even task killers don't work, only rebooting works
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That's the only proper way to do it:L Ya, i restart my phone once a day and it never gets really sluggish!

I barely ever reboot my phone.
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It's really an interesting read, and although I have Taskiller installed, I rarely use it. But a thing I've observed is that when I run Quadrant benchmark and kill before, I usually get lower score... it is some time ago I learned this... Apparently there is something to it

TheGrammarFreak said:
I haven't used a task killer on my Legend in 5 months, and it never gets sluggish.
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I don't use a task killer either and have only noticed my phone get sluggish once after the 2.2 upgrade. In that case it was some app which was being stupid.

Long press the back button while exiting an app...it kills the app...u will never need a taskiller (might not work on stock rom)
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ashishvirmani said:
Long press the back button while exiting an app...it kills the app...u will never need a taskiller (might not work on stock rom)
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Only on CM
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Task killer or no task kill on 2.2 ?

Some say it helps some says it does nothing
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No... No.....

I get better battery life without it.

Don't use it for any version. Android has its own management and frees memory as needed. The only way it'll help battery is if you need to close a rogue app causing drain. For this use Samsung task manager or system panel.

Thanks for the info
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Anyone know if it's possible to remove the TouchWiz 2.2 Task Manager via Titanium Backup for example (or another method if possible), without repercussions to the stability of my phone?.. If someone could answer this or direct me elsewhere it would be greatly appreciated. I figured I would use this thread as an opportunity to plug another question as I was also curious about the OP's question too.

I choose to use the advanced task killer on the market on auto kill, while I know it's not necessarily needed for Android with JIT I feel the freed memory launches apps more quickly. It might just be mental but it's always done good by me so I use it

jlg19753 said:
Some say it helps some says it does nothing
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Unless you're using Android 1.x, there's no reason to use a task killer.

Removed mine, thanks for the info.

ababypanda said:
I choose to use the advanced task killer on the market on auto kill, while I know it's not necessarily needed for Android with JIT I feel the freed memory launches apps more quickly. It might just be mental but it's always done good by me so I use it
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I use it too and increased my battery life. Now I use only about 1% battery drain per hour of none use.

you dont need to remove it unless if its like a AUTO killer.
I keep ATK advanced task killer on my app list.
I mean who knows when a apps just gonna go crazy on me?
and the Android Task Manager doesn't see all the apps so... thats lame, i keep mine, but use it when a app is like freezing/slowing me down

Agree while in general task killers are not needed on 2.2+, there are some applications that still missbehave and need a force kill to function properly again. Personally I just use the stock Samsung task manager and widget, which does not mess with any system services.
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I hate atk, but I do use the task manager that is included in the roms I flash. I use the task manager ONLY when an application freezes or doesn't operate correctly.

I've removed mine through Titanium. If you're uncomfortable just freeze it.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.

Task killer

Does anyone use them?
Heard from some guys at verizon they can actually be bad for your device not sure if I believe that so what is your opinion ?
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Care to explain why they're bad for your device?
As yes, I use them

Well he said on newer devices they can slow them down , I was super convinces by this either
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It does more bad than good. Its forcing applications to be removed from the memory. Which is uneeded as android will handle its own memory there is no need for you to use a task killer. When you clear apps from the recent apps list.. that does the same thing as a task killer.. but natively. It will remove the apps from the background and will indeed stop them. Dont worry about task killers.

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It does more bad than good. Its forcing applications to be removed from the memory. Which is uneeded as android will handle its own memory there is no need for you to use a task killer. When you clear apps from the recent apps list.. that does the same thing as a task killer.. but natively. It will remove the apps from the background and will indeed stop them. Dont worry about task killers.
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So use or not to use?

You can use it.. Am using it with any problems..

Wilks3y said:
So use or not to use?
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Really... No, that whole post was the reason why. its still up to you to decide.. but i vote no.

Nice yea I'm feeling no just wanted community opinion
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Exactly what ÜBER said, task killers are a no-no.
In theory they slow your device down, cause extra battery drain and are not needed since eclair 2.1.
They remove running services which the device loads back up into memory again using CPU cycles which uses battery.
Leave android handle all memory, it has had a major overhaul since it was first created.
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