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Hi guys
Ive had the G1 since very early on and for me its the first phone that i havent felt the urge to replace after a couple of months due to getting bored with it.
Now my contract runs out on 27th August so im due an upgrade from the 27th of this month.
Are there any really really good high spec android phones (ive seen the desire but its been out a while now so its a bit old) available in the UK or any that are upcoming that i havent heard about.
All I want is a 1ghz processor, 4 inch -ish screen, nice camera and ability to root and add custom roms.
Also what new android phones out in America are there that i can use over here as Ive noticed that in America theres a new android phones nearly week lol
Thanks
You really don't keep up on Android news, huh? Read a blog! Seriously!
At any rate, there are a lot of mid range and entry level android devices popping up, but no serious power device just yet. Lots of rumors about a heavy hitter coming in November, but that's not August.
agree. wait till android 3.0 gingerbread to see what to get. better to wait it out for a few more months than 18 months of regret
My contract also runs out on 26th August. I was thinking to go for the HTC Desire. Its a nice phone with more RAM than the Nexus One.
Patience is the way to go
Wait until September and November... T-Mobile USA will be getting the new high end standard of smart phones:
Dual core snapdragon
3.7-4.3 inch screens
HSPA+ (maximum speed of 21mbps)
Android 3 Gingerbread yummmm
Front Facing Camera
Qwerty
Just to be an asshole.. no locked boot loader like Motorola phones
Blackman how do u know this?
You better not be messing with my emotions Maan!
;^)
Larry
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I'm curious where you read this as well.
Yeah, i heard a rumor about HTC Desire HD with 4.3" display. Shall I wait for this? Thinking...lets see what happens
Well.... It might just be real
Well I am going to post all my favorited links as of now...Here we go!
**Note**
HTC Vision is a different phone from Project Emerald.
This info may be false but, if T-Mobile pulls it off we have a few winners.
http://www.htcphones.net/htc-vision-project-emerald-device/
http://www.htcphones.net/htc-sidekick-twist-powerful-android-smartphone-with-amoled-display/
http://androidandme.com/2010/05/news/t-mobile-htc-android-snapdragon-qwerty-sidekick-twist/
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archive...ed_htc_sidekick_twist_coming_to_t-mobile.html
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/06/dual-core-processor-htc-vision-hitting-t-mobile-this-holiday/
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/05/project-emerald-details-emerge/
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/07/htc-vision-is-viewed/
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/07/is-this-a-real-leaked-t-mobile-roadmap/ (This T-Mobile roadmap is legit.... {Well I Hope So.})
Sorry for the late post. Just got back on this wonderful site.
Ah.
Vision and Twist.
Twist will suck imho. Big internal memory, but sidekicks never were anything to get excited about. I don't know, though. It might actually be a nice phone.
HTC Vision is falling right with the Slide, Evo, and Incredible. Good phones, but I'll wait for the next one up.
Theres also some Samsung Galaxy S phones either out or coming out now.... each big US carrier has a slightly different version... 1Ghz CPU , 4" SUPER AMOLED screen.... I think a 5mp camera... not sure about RAM... 16GB internal memory....some have a front facing camera and flash also... sprints is going to have a qwerty keyboard...
op im in the same boat as you
i have a feeling that by September/ November a qwerty device with a faster then snap dragon processor will be released.
i just wish that there was more info about what was coming out in the future, it would help with what phone i would get now, my g1 is definitely dying a slow painful death lol.
Samsung Vibrant
Sounds like you need the Samsung Galaxy S aka Samsung Vibrant from T-Mobile.
Morning!
Not that I am one to dance on graves or imply than someone is 'gettingonabit'....but the inevitable truth is that our little Hero's have been overtaken by newer, faster and more powerful models with smaller chins.
So with upgrades, including mine, looming I'm asking... What handset will be next? Why that handset? Or will you be waiting for something even shiniererer to come out?
I for one am being drawn to the Desire Z although I'm not that keen ok it's looks. My ideal would be an Android version of HTC 7 Pro.
Ever since I was literally mugged of my T-mobile Vario, I've really missed a physical keyboard. I'm also hoping for something with a decent battery life, so the Desire HD has fallen like Naomi Campbell in high heels and is out it the running straight away.
Look forward to your replies, peeps!
Orangepeel.
*some words in this in this post were made up. A Countdown contestant I am not.
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I'm starting to look around a bit right now too! My upgrade isn't due until about July, but figure unless some nice new phones come out in the next few months (which is highly likely, and they will probably have a price to boot), most of what I'll be looking at on contract is out now!
Desire HD - I like the power but not too keen on the size.
Desire Z - I like the size but it has an 800MHz CPU which is probably ample for my needs.
Galaxy S - I really like HTC Sense, infact it pains me I use a custom ROM on my Hero because Sense is just too slow for me.
I'm even considering a W7 phone - maybe, but I really love the customisability, and geekyness of the Android phones !
my next handset doesnt quite exist yet. I'll retire the hero when I see, dual core, notification light and either a slide out keyboard or a screen above 4.1 inches .. Im hoping htc will bring it.. think I will avoid moto almost regardless as I enjoy custom roms which have kept my hero fresh, to be honest Im upgrading because I cant type easily on the smallish screen/ with lack of physical keyboard.. love the phone otherwise
I decided to take the plunge to WP7 and bought a HTC HD 7 on O2 pay as you go ..as I had never used a Winmob phone before
I love the Big screen and gaming is good although pricey
The phone has problems with the sound and camera but otherwise is a lovely phone
Also being WP7 the apps are slowly trickling in so have to be patient.
My Hero is due for upgrade around 2 months time
so the options I am thinking about are
LG Optimus 2x - Dual core
Motorola Atrix - Dual Core
Nexus S - all for the love of google and front facing camera
Samsung galaxy S - front facing camera
Desire HD - or if Htc comes with any new phones
Nokia N9 - If its worth it
Nokia N8 - Was a nokia fan all along untill Htc came up
Iphone 4 - ZZZzzzzzzzz
I hope HTC seriously comes out with New phones or even Nokia love them hardwares
With MWC in a couple of weeks, you'd be crazy to make any decisions now
The Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc has also, today, just taken my interest too! Due for around March/April release, looks nice, has Android 2.3 and a descent camera by the looks of things!
I have no idea but defently a HTC. Easy rootable
I am waiting to see which phone takes Feeyo
My next handset doesnt exist yet
I want something the same size as the HTC Hero.
Bigger battery (1800amps+ would be great!)
1ghz ish (Not dualcore!)
dedicated gpu would be nice but dont care too much.
I dont care how fast it is (rooting can always get them faster ) but I want the battery to last well before I root. That way it will get even better!
Also with a good Dev community... In fact put that to the top of the list after the past 2 days clusterfuck.... >_>
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Bigger battery (1800amps+ would be great!)
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Heh, heh. I know you probably made an honest mistake but damn... I would love a cell phone battery with 1800 Amps! It would last FOREVER.
At work I do testing of electrical utility grade equipment. Our 2000 Amp transformers are so heavy I can barely move them.
i have hero magic galaxy and epad.
galaxy is beautiful gadget
epad is slow and bad touch. epad is helpful mostly big.
did magic then hero then galaxy. galaxy not as much systems then hero sadly.
best is galaxy with games!
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i have hero magic galaxy and epad.
galaxy is beautiful gadget
epad is slow and bad touch. epad is helpful mostly big.
did magic then hero then galaxy. galaxy not as much systems then hero sadly.
best is galaxy with games!
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which galaxy? I've read that galaxy S has lots of aftermarket roms available but galaxy captivate has issues running anything over 2.1 (like, it can even burn itself out!?)
Atrix is coming to Orange... I'm going to struggle avoiding it.
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Hi. Hero is my first android device. I am using it for more than a year and I have started to think about replacing it with something new. First of all I want to say that hero is a brilliant device and I am very happy that I have bought it in september '09. Secondly, I expect from my next cell to have a bigger screen with a bigger resolution, better CPU, more memory and ... a camera flash light.
The DHD is a very nice looking device but it is too big and the battery is weak.
Galaxy S is too shiny and plastic, but the gaming performance and speed is WOW! However it is a Samsung and I have bad memories with them.
So a perfect replacement for my Hero would be the Desire, but .... Motorola and LG are making a big performance leap forward with their dual-core devices. So buying now a Desire wouldn't be smart, cause in a year's time it will probably be like my current hero (quite good, but with many limitations).
So I am looking forward to MWC where there will be announced a replacement for the Desire and I think that will be my next android device.
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@zagielek
You took the words right out of my mouth!
Something I am looking for in my next phone is ANT+ compatibility. Sony Ericsson is the only one announced so far, but I am not keen about them. A samsung or a HTC would be nice. I'm on my 4th HTC at this stage.
Well following MWC nothing really grabbed me.
There are three phones around that I would consider but:
Desire Z: is just a bit crude design wise for me; two tone grey, patches of metal etc. Plus the spec will quickly get dated.
Pro 7: Nice tough looking phone but Windows OS. I would actually consider it but just can't see it having the flexibility and apps of android.
Nokia E7: LOVE the form of this handset. If the little green android was running it I would get it in a heartbeat. But sadly it's Symbian, although a new version, I'm really not sure I'd be happy.
So generally feeling at bit miffed- right handset with wrong OS or wrong handset with right OS.
Might have to consider giving up the keyboard
Orangepeel.
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I'm thinking Nexus S or Galaxy S2...
One thing for sure is this time I'm not tying myself up in a 24 months contract...
In a lot of cases it can work cheaper taking a monthly rolling contract (costs vary between £10-£20 instead of your general £35) and then buying the phone separately. With this option I would however have to downgrade my ambitions...
I could always go for a Droid X HD10 lol...
im going to get a galaxy s 2, really wanted htc to bring out a new device to compete with samsung and lg's new phones
Still looking out for what my next handset it's going to be.
Hopefully, it will be lot's of fun (that is, not bored) like Hero, where there's lots of community forum support and plenty of ROMs available from developers every few weeks/months to flash
Had to post to fellow nexers. Lost my sexy nexy n am now in position to buy out right my next baby. Choices r evo 3d, g2x now (been waiting atrix, n evo. Its hard since I've waited so long for LG star/g2x. G2x has vanilla but rom changing either way. Thanks for n e feed back ^_^
via light blue yoshied magic
I'm torn between the G2X or the SGS2.
The Atrix eh. I think the dock is cool, but would never use it. I think motorola has the bootloader on lockdown like other models.
I like the Super Amoled Plus of the SGS2 but no Tegra means no Nvidia love. Also since most Honeycomb devices use Tegra, it might not be fully supported.
I was thinking that I didn't know if I could ever love another screen that wasn't amoled... but a coworker has a G2 and the screen is very crisp. Unless you are purposely comparing black levels, the SLCD might have the 1up.
Maybe we'll get lucky and the SGS2 will launch with a Tegra chipset. They said some markets will get them. Maybe wait and buy a Tegra2 SGS2? Best of both?
What ever Cyanogen moves on to, real talk lol.
Did you have insurance on the N1 or is this next purchase out of your own pocket?
I've never had a smartphone that wasn't made by HTC and I don't know if that will ever change. Still waiting for their next stock phone but if I had to get something now(well, soon anyway), I'd definitely go for the evo 3d. However, buying a dual core phone right now seems like such a waste. Gingerbread does not properly support it and you never know if and when these phones will get updates. I wish the nexus S hadn't been such a let down.. but I'll be happy with my N1 for a while longer
Thanks ALL for replies ^__^
@player911-not big on samsung but maybe. otimus 3d is another ive reasearched.thks!
@pew - lol
@system - no lost my n1 new years been with old magic since
@smaskell - i would be too =(
have discount and could get atrix & laptop dock for 700 outright and school with a laptop with no battery is really starting to sway me. I've SCOURED it's forums on XDA and can get a rom i'd be happy with already and the dock has some really good highlights (ex. opening your home XP pc in a window and fullscreen it for a specific program, etc.) I'd miss the .3" extra screen real estate but eh. No 3d like evo or optimus 3d, but it have to be at a certain distance and my television isnt 3d so no good there. atrix will mirror to my 73" hd tv. though Switch to att is a pill i'd have to swallow but employee line helps there ^__^ and it's lte will be backwards compatible so will just need a sim not a new phone (G'Luck verizon). Would like to have htc on tmobile but I cant wait for ever and i lost my nexus New Years so I've been relying on my htc magic since then =( may wait till april 20th to see what LG says this time but prob. biting the motorolla bullet tomorrow
I personally will never buy a Samsung smartphone, tablet or anything that recieves updates again. HTC's build quality demolishes Samsung anyways.
DanRo80 said:
I personally will never buy a Samsung smartphone, tablet or anything that recieves updates again. HTC's build quality demolishes Samsung anyways.
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Really? Since when? HTC's are the ones with the screens falling off and hinges that open when the device is tilted. I haven't heard of any 'build quality' issues with any samsungs?!
The only problem with sammy is the delay in receiving 'official' updates but who uses stock anyway?
The specs and features of the sgs2 out shine any phone on the market, the only thing it is lacking is a qhd res but that isn't important to most people, I mean who cares about screen res when you can 1080p output via hdmi.
What you should really be worrying about is which phone supports wiimote and can do full hdmi mirroring.
Wait for HTC pyramid supposing the rumors are true!
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What ever Cyanogen moves on to, real talk lol.
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Agree!
Actually, I'll make sure my next phone will be dev. community friendly... And I need a screen that wins against sunny days.
Wanted to chime in n say I freaking love my atrix! Just played with g2x and though great phone happy I didn't wait. This thing is sick. Dont really have time for nightlies n e more but miss all that great great dev love but wouldn't trade for n e thing. Love lapdock webtop n media screen. Did not think id be happy with moto or att for gods sake but I am^_^
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DanRo80 said:
I personally will never buy a Samsung smartphone, tablet or anything that recieves updates again. HTC's build quality demolishes Samsung anyways.
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I guess that depends where you live. Galaxy S phones are getting Gingerbread now in Europe, whereas Desire users are still waiting, afaik
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Comrades,
I am coming to the end of my contract just in time for the Sensation..
I love my HD2 (android) but a few wee things annoy me like low call voice (switched on and off speaker, only works for that call) and battery drain.
Is the DFT or other Android ROMs as fast and stable as the stock HTC rom?
I know the phone will be faster but it won’t be long until the XDA chaps crack the new ROM and I can put it on to the HD2.
Sensation obviously, but i would wait for the gsmversion of the evo3d(if that one still comes)
I was excited about the sensation coming to t mobile as well..........
Until I saw the specs of the SGS2 and sensation side by side.
I hate sense (on android) and touchwiz but when you look at the specs against one another its ridiculous...
HTC really dropped the ball with the sensation and to be honest you'd be better off getting the Sensation from T-mobile selling it, buying an HD2 and have some money left over
Either that or an SGS2 (27th may on Tmo)
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lol if I'd actually paid attention when reading your post I'd have seen that you already have an HD2...
If its the newer version of sense you want then you'd be better with the sensation as its going to have the extra RAM to deal with the memory hogging abomination that is HTC Sense.....
(I hate sense, in case you hadnt noticed)
robertsmith1873 said:
Comrades,
I am coming to the end of my contract just in time for the Sensation..
I love my HD2 (android) but a few wee things annoy me like low call voice (switched on and off speaker, only works for that call) and battery drain.
Is the DFT or other Android ROMs as fast and stable as the stock HTC rom?
I know the phone will be faster but it won’t be long until the XDA chaps crack the new ROM and I can put it on to the HD2.
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Hi,
when I read your post,I went here:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2828&id2=2842
Very little difference,apart from camera megapixels and RAM.
I,m erring on the side of Sensation,because of the camera...
Sensation hands down!
malybru said:
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Very little difference,apart from camera megapixels and RAM.
I,m erring on the side of Sensation,because of the camera...
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As a Photographer
I would not get too bothered with camera MP density. The Iphones camera is **** hot @ 5MP.
The EVO 3D sound good, more RAM and a friggin 3D screen………..but the back of it is ugly.
If you wait for the next phone to arrive you would never have a phone. LOL.
Personally I'm going to keep my HD2 going until I find out about the SGSII coming to T-Mobile. I'm also due an upgrade and I just don't know if I want to use it on the Sensation with the SGSII out there. Luckily my HD2 does everything I need so no rush here. Will probably wait to see them both in person in a couple months. SGSII should be ROM'd by then and we will know more about Sensation and if can be ROM'd.
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Comrades,
Is the DFT or other Android ROMs as fast and stable as the stock HTC rom?
I know the phone will be faster but it won’t be long until the XDA chaps crack the new ROM and I can put it on to the HD2.
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Well generally, custom roms are faster than stock roms. E.g. Our custom rom of the desire hd is faster than a desire hd running its stock rom. However seeing as the sensation is per say 2x the performance of the HD2, the sensation running on its stock rom will more likely be better than the HD2 running a custom rom based on the sensation.
dont know if the qHD 960x540 will be support in near future?
GS2 hardware is good with 1 gb ram, but dont how good is the GPU?
Yes the nexushd2-gingerbread v2.7 is fast,stable and next to boyppc-shiftpda gingersense.s v20 it is the best rom in my opinion
i know what you are going through... i love my HD2 but that Pyramid looks amazing in its own. What im doing is just keeping my HD2 and will put the ROM on it when a cook like Imilka figures out a nice port of it or the MyTouch 4G Slide ROM. Im always looking for the latest ROM on my phone and with the HD2 i can do that now. If i got the Pyramid I know i would be anxious for hacks to come for it. Once my HD2 craps out that would be my first choice because HTC makes a great phone, Im leary of Samsung because of all the update problems that happens with it so far on Tmo... Im actually trying out a EVO 3D ROM < Kingdom > now and its been running pretty smooth. Well hopefully this gives you some insight on your choice...
Lawl this update thing has become much too dramatic. xD
It's not samsung that's slowing down these updates or giving slow updates, it's the carriers. xD
Look at samsung, they released GB a month or two/three if you count the leaks. That's like the second or third phone to get GB officially, aside from the nexus one and nexus s? Which are google phones so of course they'd get it first. Samsung doesn't handle the updates for a T&t, verizon, sprint or t-mo, they don't. So they've done their job, it's all up to the carriers to finish this up.
thats only partially true..
the carriers do work with Samsung and Google to get out the updates but I work for Tmobile and its not an Over the Air Update on the Galaxy S phones. The updates are through a website that Samsung set up that you download it while synced to a pc and the updates so far have caused more bugs and headaches than they have been worth..
of course thats for peeps that wait for official updates, not for us who mod and use this site.
not saying by any means that its a horrible phone, just not my choice personally thats all...
everyone has thier own opinions and i have just always had great luck with HTC is all...
I would go for EVO 3D. Not only because it is better in everything compared to the Sensation and all that 3D bull****, but mostly because it looks fabulous. Best looking HTC ever in my opinion.
i would go for the Evo 3D aswell ,
apparently is will come to Europe , when it does , i'll be first in line to get 1
conantroutman said:
I was excited about the sensation coming to t mobile as well..........
Until I saw the specs of the SGS2 and sensation side by side.
I hate sense (on android) and touchwiz but when you look at the specs against one another its ridiculous...
HTC really dropped the ball with the sensation and to be honest you'd be better off getting the Sensation from T-mobile selling it, buying an HD2 and have some money left over
Either that or an SGS2 (27th may on Tmo)
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lol if I'd actually paid attention when reading your post I'd have seen that you already have an HD2...
If its the newer version of sense you want then you'd be better with the sensation as its going to have the extra RAM to deal with the memory hogging abomination that is HTC Sense.....
(I hate sense, in case you hadnt noticed)
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Also if you play games a Lot, then the Sensation is a better bet, the Adreno 220 is faster than the rest of the GPU's found in phones ...
regards.
Lawl where did you get that info bout the adreno 220 being faster?
The benchmarks of the 1.5ghz model? Mind you it's running a dual core 1.5 ghz, meaning two 1.5 ghz compared to a 1ghz/1.2ghz dual core. So what does that say?
Point being it was the 1.5 ghz model, not the 1.2ghz own, so we can't say which is better right now. Plus we have to remember the sgs 2 caps it's frame rate.
Anyways, as far as GPU's are concerned however, I'm pretty sure the power vr sgx543 is the best right now. Sad samsung didn't make that move.
Thanks chaps for your points, all valid.
SGS2 does look to have the hardware and i know i will up set myfellow Scot, but I LIKE SENCE...when i look at the screen it tells me what i need to know. then its back into the pocket..
I will now goto Tmob on 16th and haggle a free phone with more calls and data or threaten to leave..........wish me luck.
Thanks again.
Ok I purchased the evo3d on launch day, but I am not satisfied with it at all, now my disclaimer I HATE SAMSUNG but it was due to the old samsung phones A460, A600, A660. The Sprint epic had so many problems that i only had it for 4 days then returned it. I said a long time ago I would never buy a samsung phone again. Well I think i might have lied. Im seriously am thinking of buying the new Sprint within aka SGS2 with it launches in aug. I have been a HTC user for 8 years since the 6600 but Im so dissatisfied in the performance of the evo3d and htc with its locked bootloaders. Now the one thing I might have to give up is sense I will miss it but Im hearing good things about this exynos chip on the sgs2. I need someone to assure me that the problems with the epic will not be in the sgs2 like micro sd problems or black screen of death or bluetooth dropping in and out or the major one GPS issues. I have to make up my mind in the next 48 hours. Can any one really offer some real information to help my situation. I dont need fanboy help, I need real input. I told myself I wouldnt come to the dark side but Vader is calling me.
Sound like me man LOL.... Only thing is, there will be no exynos CPU in the US versions....been confirmed in the fcc filings. Now that could change I suppose. But as of now, they will have tegra 2 chips
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HTC will unlock its bootloaders in September. Yesterday I got in a cloudburst, my phone got really wet and behaves strangely. I will buy an evo 3d if my sgs2 dies. I really do miss sense a lot.I think in the end software experience is more important than pure raw hardware power.
Btw I had a samsung non-smartphone before and I hated it and said to myself I would never buy a samsung again but the sgs2 is a very good phone though even though I still prefer sense
lol. you guys in the u.s. deserve better man...get the gs2...its fanfuckintastic...
sent from my galaxy S2.
Haven't had any issues with gps, bluetooth, or black screens of death so I think you might like it lol
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Haha, been through the 'never samsung again' phase too (i7500) but the i9100 really is a wonderful phone and I'm glad I didn't buy the evo3d, which I also considered for some time...
Ps: I went through the 'never htc again' after the infamous missing 2d/3d drivers of the Kaiser.
Lesson to be learned: we're all these corporations' biatches. Buy the phone ;p
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Haha, been through the 'never samsung again' phase too (i7500) but the i9100 really is a wonderful phone and I'm glad I didn't buy the evo3d, which I also considered for some time...
Ps: I went through the 'never htc again' after the infamous missing 2d/3d drivers of the Kaiser.
Lesson to be learned: we're all these corporations' biatches. Buy the phone ;p
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Lmao @ drivers. I remember that ****. That phones video performance was horrible. Soon as the lights git dim, u could forget about using the camera for video or stills lol
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randy2 said:
Ok I purchased the evo3d on launch day, but I am not satisfied with it at all, now my disclaimer I HATE SAMSUNG but it was due to the old samsung phones A460, A600, A660. The Sprint epic had so many problems that i only had it for 4 days then returned it. I said a long time ago I would never buy a samsung phone again. Well I think i might have lied. Im seriously am thinking of buying the new Sprint within aka SGS2 with it launches in aug. I have been a HTC user for 8 years since the 6600 but Im so dissatisfied in the performance of the evo3d and htc with its locked bootloaders. Now the one thing I might have to give up is sense I will miss it but Im hearing good things about this exynos chip on the sgs2. I need someone to assure me that the problems with the epic will not be in the sgs2 like micro sd problems or black screen of death or bluetooth dropping in and out or the major one GPS issues. I have to make up my mind in the next 48 hours. Can any one really offer some real information to help my situation. I dont need fanboy help, I need real input. I told myself I wouldnt come to the dark side but Vader is calling me.
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You have to look at this way. Every comment on this board is about the international SGS2 (GT-i9100). The original SGS1 (GT-i9000) didn't have anywhere near the problems of the basterdized versions that had pretty drastic hardware and software changes as demanded by the four U.S. carriers. The GT-i9000 was updated to 2.3.4 about two weeks ago and received regular updates along the way. Most of which were ignored by the U.S. carriers pissing people off who then blamed Samsung.
Sprint may have ordered a bunch of changes to the SGS2 for their version. From the leaked pics the back of the phone is different, the corners look rounder, and it appears to be thicker. Regadless, it's a CDMA/Wi-Max phone so it'll have little in common with the GSM international version. You'll be dependent on Sprint for updates, features of the international version may be gone or replaced, and you won't be able to flash international ROMs.
So until the phone's actually out, it's hard to say how much Sprint molestation was done to it. The fundamentals will be solid like the display, processor, and camera. But things like call quality, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and GPS may be different because of the different radio(s).
It could be another Epic or Sprint could leave the phone basically alone except for what had to be changed to support CDMA/Wi-Max. Until it's out, no one will know.
I returned my Evo 3d 2 days ago. The next day I hear that the devs have gotten s-off. Oh well, anyway, I am going to wait till the Within comes out. And see how it is. Then if I don't like it, I will go back to the 3d, or some other phone. Just hope it comes out soon. Went back to a Palm pre, and it is killing me!
E3d...falls short compared to expectations. You'll know in 10 minutes its no contest.
I use Launcher Pro...makes it even faster.
Anyone have hands on with performances on these two different chips? Wouldn't imagine you'd detect much on this device?
Thanks for everyones feedback but if the u.s version is tegra 2 then i might keep my evo3d I might have to sell my evo3d on craigslist and wait past my 30 days, which is up Saturday and Im really disappointed in the evo3d but im so so so scared of a samsung device although the more i see it the more I might make the jump. decisions decisions. From all of my research the tegra 2 is the least of the three,(exynos,msm8660,tegra 2) all 1.2's can anyone speak on the chips in the non-exynos sgs2's
If you like rooting and Custom Roms and are a general XDA user i'd never buy a completely new phone when you dont know anything about it and if its gonna have root and stuff^^
I havent had the evo3d in hands because its not out in my country but i tested the SGS2 and the Sensation alot. So i have to emphasize this is my PERSONAL opinion
I have a DesireHD. I love it. It has gotten some bad reviews in the beginning when it first came out especially about battery life. Now with custom roms based on 2.3.3 it lasts me 2days and the UI is 100% smooth. But the bad reviews still stick i think...
To come to your decision, all 3 phones (sgs2, evo3d, sensation) are very new and still have problems. The sensation looks very nice but the one i tested was quite laggy. Sense 3d ran better on my DHD than on the sensation... I tried it side by side in the store, and still has locked bootloader - but HTC will unlock it so in a few months the Sensation maybe has awesome custom roms. Its too early to tell.
SGS2, nice phone hardware wise, but most ugly and useless software that i tried based on Android. When you're used to sense it just gives you nothing And when you're used to beautiful clear shiny SLCD screens you'll maybe have some problems with the OLED from the sgs2. The model i had in hand looked aweful compared to my DHD, the colors just arent right. There may be better ones but for me white white is much more important than black black. If that makes sense^^
About the chip: The sgs2 exynox is a powerful chip. But software does not really support it atm. For example Gameloft games. At least tegra2 has some cool games... I prefer qualcomm chip based phones - there i know i'll have compatibility.
So in my opinion the new dualcore phones do not have ANY advantage over singlecore 1ghz phones ATM (ok hdmi out is nice to have ). Who knows what will be in half a year when the software is better for the dualcore babies. But now? But these are just my thoughts.
I guess SGS2 will have good custom software faster than any other phone because of its popularity. If you can find one with a good screen and nice colors i guess go for it
clouds5 said:
If you like rooting and Custom Roms and are a general XDA user i'd never buy a completely new phone when you dont know anything about it and if its gonna have root and stuff^^
I havent had the evo3d in hands because its not out in my country but i tested the SGS2 and the Sensation alot. So i have to emphasize this is my PERSONAL opinion
I have a DesireHD. I love it. It has gotten some bad reviews in the beginning when it first came out especially about battery life. Now with custom roms based on 2.3.3 it lasts me 2days and the UI is 100% smooth. But the bad reviews still stick i think...
To come to your decision, all 3 phones (sgs2, evo3d, sensation) are very new and still have problems. The sensation looks very nice but the one i tested was quite laggy. Sense 3d ran better on my DHD than on the sensation... I tried it side by side in the store, and still has locked bootloader - but HTC will unlock it so in a few months the Sensation maybe has awesome custom roms. Its too early to tell.
SGS2, nice phone hardware wise, but most ugly and useless software that i tried based on Android. When you're used to sense it just gives you nothing And when you're used to beautiful clear shiny SLCD screens you'll maybe have some problems with the OLED from the sgs2. The model i had in hand looked aweful compared to my DHD, the colors just arent right. There may be better ones but for me white white is much more important than black black. If that makes sense^^
About the chip: The sgs2 exynox is a powerful chip. But software does not really support it atm. For example Gameloft games. At least tegra2 has some cool games... I prefer qualcomm chip based phones - there i know i'll have compatibility.
So in my opinion the new dualcore phones do not have ANY advantage over singlecore 1ghz phones ATM (ok hdmi out is nice to have ). Who knows what will be in half a year when the software is better for the dualcore babies. But now? But these are just my thoughts.
I guess SGS2 will have good custom software faster than any other phone because of its popularity. If you can find one with a good screen and nice colors i guess go for it
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Try and play a 1080p movie in a Single core 1ghz phone,then you will see the difference ..
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testando said:
Try and play a 1080p movie in a Single core 1ghz phone,then you will see the difference ..
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You mean 1080p Adobe Flash video?
What I don't like about LCD is that it can't display black, but OLED can display all colors.
Any heavy complex multitasking condition on a device proves the value of dual core.
First, I want to clear some things up here..
phyba said:
Sound like me man LOL.... Only thing is, there will be no exynos CPU in the US versions....been confirmed in the fcc filings. Now that could change I suppose. But as of now, they will have tegra 2 chips
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I believe you are refering to this article: http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/06/another-galaxy-s-ii-passes-through-the-fcc-possibly-rockin-a-t/ (or another article on a different site).
If you look at the model number closely, you will see that the Tegra 2 phone that you are talking about has the model number GT-I9103. This is not the US galaxy SII. It is the Galaxy Z, the more "affordable little brother." (http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/01/samsung-galaxy-z-galaxy-s-iis-affordable-little-brother-now/).
I'm not confirming that the US varieties of the SGSII will not have Tegra 2s, but I'm saying that there was no confirmations of US SGSIIs having Tegra 2s in the first place.
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Sprint may have ordered a bunch of changes to the SGS2 for their version. From the leaked pics the back of the phone is different, the corners look rounder, and it appears to be thicker.
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From the Epic forums, some people are saying that the leaked picture wasn't the Galaxy SII (within), but it is the Sprint's version of the Infuse. But I have no sources for this one.
Anyways, personally, I recommend that you hold out until the Galaxy SII for Sprint comes out. On paper, the SGSII beats the Evo 3D in almost every spec criteria. HTC has better support and more timely updates though.
But I'm waiting for the Within.