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Hello xda-ers!
I have been stalking around, tasting everybody's cooking for a couple of weeks now, and i have got to get something off my chest.
I did search, I do realize that what I am looking for can not be made and that its no one's fault (I might be giving htc a meaningful look right now).
I like a whole lot of roms and chefs here, I really do, but the rom I'm after seems to not exist - one of two options:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
And so I would like to ask of you wizzies, is there light at the end of the tunnel? Are things comming around? How do you see it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
Thank you all so much for all your hard work, you guys are the reason I love smartphones so much, I'm dirt poor but i promise I'll buy you guys a round of beer once I get out of college
Its a matter of time bro. Be batient. A month ago, none of the eclair roms had camera. Now they all do. A month before that none of the eclair roms had N1 voice keyboard. Now they all do. God knows what some of these amazing roms will have and do a month from now. [/good deed for the year]
Love the FAQ sig lol
mnissan said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
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What?
MT3G has 192MB Ram just like Dream but has 512 ROM like Hero.Hero has 288MB RAM.
Macrophage001 said:
Love the FAQ sig lol
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^5 to you bro
mnissan said:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
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1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem
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1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem
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As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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Well steam out in the right section next time
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Well steam out in the right section next time
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LOL +2000
"if" you had searched you could have found answers to both of your questions... and maybe posted in the correct section.
maybe that "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look" should be turned into "i actually searched and posted in the Q&A section or the I didn't read before posting..."
No offence but seriously if you would have searched you would have found those 2 answers in almost every thread that had to do with hero or eclair...
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As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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I think someone leaked an HTC branded Eclair ROM with the "rosie/sense/whatever," and that's why you see it cooked into a 2.0 ROM.
Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer
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Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer
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Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!
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Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!
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iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.
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iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.
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iAlwaysPantyLiners come with wings!
Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...
fiktion said:
Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...
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It went off topic at the same rate the iPad went from wanted to ridiculed. What's so bad about that?
Well back on topic/kinda...
Do we know for sure that htc will release the necessary drivers for video playback/camera? It sounds like some people are positive we'll get them eventually...I switched back to donut because I like being able to watch youtube, but its amazing how far along eclair roms have come, and mad props to NCommander for reverse engineering the camera drivers. Without him we'd still have no camera at this point. But I was just wondering if its confirmed or not that we will indeed get those drivers from htc one day.
Well, T-Mobile is teasing us with an Eclair update for our phones. We shall see.
What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time
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What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time
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There's actually one like that, it's called iPhone OS. I suggest you buy an iPhone and try it
What is the most COMPLETE, FASTEST, STABLE basically works the best all around ROM out there right now?
ZenEXP-0.1
Aloysius 2.0.4
DamageControl v2.07.2
Darchdroid v2
DarchLegend OC5.0.6
RegawMOD v2.1
Fresh Rom 2.0d
Ic3Rom v2.0.4
Fresh Toast v1
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What is the most COMPLETE, FASTEST, STABLE basically works the best all around ROM out there right now?
ZenEXP-0.1
Aloysius 2.0.4
DamageControl v2.07.2
Darchdroid v2
DarchLegend OC5.0.6
RegawMOD v2.1
Fresh Rom 2.0d
Ic3Rom v2.0.4
Fresh Toast v1
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I don't like answering threads like this cause I like people to test them out for themselves cause it's a personal choice. But, if you like Sense builds, check out DarchLegend 5.0.5 (or the stable ROM in the first post of that thread), or Fresh 2.0d. If you like AOSP and don't mind losing camera, definitely check out DarchDroid. I am using it now and it is a solid rom. ZenEXP is fun to play around with, but is not completely functional as of yet. But as I said before, I encourage you to try them all and see what fits you the best.
I like my bread toasted do to OC kernel.
I predict its the future of most hero roms.
I like the MatrixROM.
It's simple, fast, and stable. A good blank slate that you can scale into whatever you want.
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Aloysius
is at 2.0.5 now..
amot said:
What is the most COMPLETE, FASTEST, STABLE basically works the best all around ROM out there right now?
ZenEXP-0.1
Aloysius 2.0.4
DamageControl v2.07.2
Darchdroid v2
DarchLegend OC5.0.6
RegawMOD v2.1
Fresh Rom 2.0d
Ic3Rom v2.0.4
Fresh Toast v1
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The point of this thread remains a bit unclear to me. Are you assuming
that we are all the same and your idea of best is the same as ours?
Also everyones exp are different. If you would flash a rom blindly
because someone you dont even know is serious or not suggested it,
then you my friend are probably due for a phone bricking rickrolling.....
Good luck to all those that flash because of others suggestions on
finding something that you yourself truely enjoy. Its bascially the same
as asking ppl to tell you what your favorite sitcom is. I would assume
anyone here already knows their favorite rom(If they havent compiled
it themselves)along with the reasons for it being so. But we all contribute
to the community in different ways, and if this is yours then thanks.
CB.CP is Epic!!! Very Fast!!
Yet another thread that shouldn't need to exist....there are plenty of other threads asking essentially the same exact question.....
*sighs* anyways...the only correct answer to your thread OP.....the best rom out there is the one that works best for you and your needs. Sift through all the roms out there and you will find your diamond in the rough.
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The point of this thread remains a bit unclear to me. Are you assuming
that we are all the same and your idea of best is the same as ours?
Also everyones exp are different. If you would flash a rom blindly
because someone you dont even know is serious or not suggested it,
then you my friend are probably due for a phone bricking rickrolling.....
Good luck to all those that flash because of others suggestions on
finding something that you yourself truely enjoy. Its bascially the same
as asking ppl to tell you what your favorite sitcom is. I would assume
anyone here already knows their favorite rom(If they havent compiled
it themselves)along with the reasons for it being so. But we all contribute
to the community in different ways, and if this is yours then thanks.
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lol! +1
yes, this thread is pointless. responses here will only be a watered down version of the roms original thread. id advice trying all of them to gain your own idea of what is the best rom.
nighteyes_wolf said:
Yet another thread that shouldn't need to exist....there are plenty of other threads asking essentially the same exact question.....
*sighs* anyways...the only correct answer to your thread OP.....the best rom out there is the one that works best for you and your needs. Sift through all the roms out there and you will find your diamond in the rough.
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+1. Been saying this since I was flashing my Diamond. Every phone plays different and every person has their own opinion. Flash a ROM every week and just play with it. Hell, you could probably find out in less than an hour if the ROM is what you are looking for.
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CakeButt.ClownPenis is Epic!!! Very Fast!!
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I've seen this in at least 4 threads (not to include the one were this was created and deleted) it's now officially a meme
not that one.... the other one where one of our "devs" rage quited
I agree with this but this isn't as obscene as the whole 2.1 is out garbage.
Yet another thread that shouldn't need to exist....there are plenty of other threads asking essentially the same exact question.....
*sighs* anyway
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+1. Been saying this since I was flashing my Diamond. Every phone plays different and every person has their own opinion. Flash a ROM every week and just play with it. Hell, you could probably find out in less than an hour if the ROM is what you are looking for.
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kbizzle said:
+1. Been saying this since I was flashing my Diamond. Every phone plays different and every person has their own opinion. Flash a ROM every week and just play with it. Hell, you could probably find out in less than an hour if the ROM is what you are looking for.
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Ya but there are people out there who don't have the patience of doing that........ *hulk smash* I lost count how many times I've flashed the last two months since the 2.1 roms started to roll in. Sometimes even if I flash the same rom, wiping in between, I don't always have the same experience twice.
It's a process...but one that leads to happiness in the end once you find that one that makes your phone go 'ahhhhhhhh thats more like it'
I buy my computer chairs the same way...I basically blindfold myself and just start sitting in every damn chair in the store from cheap to expensive till my body lets me know I've made the right choice. Sure....it ends up being a gawd damn $350 chair but it was worth it haha /tangent
Mods please lock this thread
Maybe we can stop calling things pointless and leave it has a just a poll..
We can see what most people prefer and what everyones personal feeling is to the rom they are using.
And also for people rooting for the first time. I wouldnt recommend "just flash every rom you can and make a decision".
I would recommend flashing what the majority of people use and feel comfortable with. And then experiment from there.
This thread can also be informational if people stop complaining and post why they think a certain rom is better.
I understand there is more threads like this, but this has all current roms.
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Mods please lock this thread
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um... why? It's a pretty good poll, it would be nice to see what everyone's favorite would be
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um... why? It's a pretty good poll, it would be nice to see what everyone's favorite would be
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Well, ok maybe I'm just mentally exhausted and was a little on the harsh side, but if anything, can this be merged with the other threads asking what the best/fastest/stable roms out there are.....
Agreed w/ a majority of the posters so far....ROM flashing, be it w/ a Droid, a WinMo, or other O/S...is always about user preference. There will never be a consensus "best" in that regard...
That said, while I tend to gloss or skip over threads like this, I do attentively examine the "most stable ROM" threads, as ultimately....regardless of what eye candy or features I want in a phone, it still needs to function AS A PHONE!
I'm sure this priority will vary in rank w/ people who may use their phone for business purposes as much or more than personal (ie. myself), but when it comes down to it, I could care less how many zoom features I have in my camera, so long as my system lag is minimal, SMS works, and I can hear a caller on the other end of the line!
Off my soapbox now, and back to the original question...I'm toggling between the Darchdroid ROM for it's lightning speed and DC's latest w/ the today's latest mod updates. Tomorrow....who the F knows?
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Off my soapbox now, and back to the original question...I'm toggling between the Darchdroid ROM for it's lightning speed and DC's latest w/ the today's latest mod updates. Tomorrow....who the F knows?
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I would normally agree with the darchdroid as I really do truely love his work, it feels the fastest, but I'm running into waay too many problems with push gmail, battery life, vm notification, and some other stuff. v2 (pre-OC) worked really well, guess I'll go back to it after stuff gets fixed.
My vote is for fresh-toast as of the time of this post
Jus10o said:
Maybe we can stop calling things pointless and leave it has a just a poll..
We can see what most people prefer and what everyones personal feeling is to the rom they are using.
And also for people rooting for the first time. I wouldnt recommend "just flash every rom you can and make a decision".
I would recommend flashing what the majority of people use and feel comfortable with. And then experiment from there.
This thread can also be informational if people stop complaining and post why they think a certain rom is better.
I understand there is more threads like this, but this has all current roms.
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Obviously you are not speaking of me since i went out of my way to avoid
the word pointless. If this thead was titled "Whats your favorite rom and
why" i never wouldve posted. I didnt come in to find a new rom, i came in
to comment hoping maybe the op will be a little more specific in his/her
next post as not to mislead and waste ppls time. There can never BE a
BEST rom, and hopefully most of us here know that. If not continue to
scour this post by all means, if you look hard enough you might even be
able to find one that imitates the iphone os. If not you should prolly just
go buy one
im the best rom available as of 4-21
Hi,
Does any one know if there is a Sense-Froyo Rom for Nexus One?
If so is it any good / stable, if not any ideas when?
Cool thanks guys.
Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there
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Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there
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Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future
cymru said:
Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future
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I'd rather post a quick question to people who are dealing with this frequently, than trawl the web, sift through junk and install something which has lots of bugs.
Cheer up, its not all bad.
Thanks for the link.
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.
Without a criteria of what he is looking for other than good and stable it's hard to give a good answer. It's not about e-toughness, it's about searching, putting together an informative post, and reading the forum rules.
'cymru' is 100% correct. All it took was a search and reading comments about what does and does not work, then nandroid backup and try the rom and see if it passes the "good and stable" test.
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you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.
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WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)
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WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)
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I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!
LevitateJay said:
I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!
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Well there are some roms that have ported sense camera, and apps.
I do believe my "The Official" rom has them. It didn't come stock with the sense camera, but I had it installed (easy to do from spare parts, plus I have 720p recording).
The best you can do is look for a rom with those things ported over.
Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing
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Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing
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I might check that out...I tried KingKlick's latest rom and my phone rebooted all night long with it. Lamesauce.
I agree with cymru, its not that hard to click one section over to development and see what's there instead of someone making a new thread everytime, and xda agrees. Not a big a deal yes, just saying I agree
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DMaverick50 said:
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
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Luckily i've been a member for a number of years so don't fall into this category...
If it wasn't for XDA recently attracting many young people that weren't taught at home or school in how to do something for themselves once in a while they wouldn't have to come and anonymously display their e-laziness. Just shut up.
EDIT: THANKS JRBOURQUE ^
Hi guys, if the battle for whos the cleverist is now over, heres some feed back for the advice given.
I've installed, Evils q&d sensefroyo. Been running it for a few days, its cool. A little buggy, a few force closes, high battery use, no bluetooth, but very usable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Again thanks for the input, hope this helps anyone else who was looking for similar info.
Cheers.
I tried kingxclikz and Paul's r23 roms, I must say the first one is very buggy and there are no ways to use it even for 24h(though I think it needs an eclair radio),Paul's rom is way more stable but the lack of Metamorph themes,trackball mods and BT are too important.
He promised to release a new version soon so all we can do is wait and see!
Ughh. No BT on any sense ROM then?
Is anybody even working on bluetooth for Desire roms? I don't think anybody actually is. There are a few people I think might be capable like Paul but he's busy with other things now by the looks of it
hi ,
I am pretty sure that your guys are tried of topics like these already but i dont know where else to go . Can you guys please help me figure out which NAND android Rom would be the best suitable for me?
this is what i need my phone to do :
*use it as an everyday rom so has to be pretty stable.
* need normal phone operations working e.g - GPS, Bluetooth, texting,dialing,speaker phone, wifi,camera,video camera,flash
*want flash,swype ,app2sd,internet tethering with usb and wifi hotspot and of course the android market app.
*A somewhat fast rom , and need to be able install and use apps from the sd card. live wallpapers would be cool but not a necessity.
Again in advance I am really sorry if i came across as smug or needy or ignorant or not willing to use the search feature.That was not my intention , read a lot of posts here and there forums and all different kind of roms are only confusing me further.Thats why i registered and decided to write this post.I'll post this at XDA as well hope i get some help .
again thats in advance and sorry if my post was annoying, just trying to learn.
hi.
probably hundreds to choose from ,but the one in my sig works well for me and pretty much covers the things you're after
Look no further
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926507
depends whether you want with or without "sense"
core droid has sense
tytung does not
Most of the things you outlined like GPS etc. work on every ROM now.
which flavor of ice cream is the best?
mini_robot said:
which flavor of ice cream is the best?
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Strawberry chessecake. ;D
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which flavor of ice cream is the best?
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dont like ice cream
Why not read one of the existing threads about which build is best and base your decision from that? Just so you know, there is no right and wrong answer. Just because I like Hispanic chicks, with fat #$%$# doesn't mean you have to like Hispanic chicks with fat #$^#$.
Really??? What I do is read the entire build thread usually there are one to four pages about each build on each indivisual ROM. This is where you are going to obtain information about the ROM itself. Then download one, hell download 10 try them out. I am personally a fan of the Desire ROM's.
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Really??? What I do is read the entire build thread usually there are one to four pages about each build on each indivisual ROM. This is where you are going to obtain information about the ROM itself. Then download one, hell download 10 try them out. I am personally a fan of the Desire ROM's.
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There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
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There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
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I HAVE and do read the entire build thread on the ones I am interested in, doing so is a good idea. Again this is where you get the information about the build. It is only going to take 5-10 minutes to read through an entire developers first post (1-4 pages max) So lets see, if you read through 12 builds at 5 minutes you have only invested an hour of time and gained a lot of knowledge. Most builds take about 30 minutes to download so while you are downloading ONE build you can educate yourself on at least 5 other builds you might be interested in. Some builds I start reading turn me off right away, those I dont bother going back too. Also if you are too lazy to read through a build then you are probably going to install it wrong and spend double the amount of time it should of taken. I AM JUST SAYING!
TO THE OP:
I like desire builds:
Currently using this build
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976384&page=15
Love this one too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915159&page=323
anap40 said:
There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
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I'm not saying i have read every single thread in relation to a certain build that i may have flashed on my phone but ive read a lot on here and have flashed a lot, no interest in WINMO anymore although i used to especially like the NRG ROM's also Laurentius but as regards Android until such time a stable Honeycomb build comes about ill stick with Sergio Coredroid it is IMO the best there is, i must give a mention to previous builds ive had which were excellent like Darkstones NAND SUPERAM,exceptionally fast but discontinued, also MDJ, Xboarder and Rafpigna but Sergio's is for me no 1.
I used what is called ...."most stable" froyo 2.2 . GPS dont work.
anap40 said:
There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
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I've read the first, and last five pages of almost every NAND build thread. He needs to do what we did, and install different builds until he finds one that suits his needs. Like it's been said a thousand times, just because I like hispanic chicks doesn't mean he's going to like Hispanic chicks.
Plus, he could have opened one of the numerous, "what rom is best?" threads and gotten the same answer he would have gotten here.
It also makes me laugh that you're calling buddy a liar. If you're so concerned with the OP getting a solid build, then why don't you toss the SD version, install all of the NAND builds, and turn in an essay about which build is best?
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I've read the first, and last five pages of almost every NAND build thread. He needs to do what we did, and install different builds until he finds one that suits his needs. Like it's been said a thousand times, just because I like hispanic chicks doesn't mean he's going to like Hispanic chicks.
Plus, he could have opened one of the numerous, "what rom is best?" threads and gotten the same answer he would have gotten here.
It also makes me laugh that you're calling buddy a liar. If you're so concerned with the OP getting a solid build, then why don't you toss the SD version, install all of the NAND builds, and turn in an essay about which build is best?
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That's what I'm talking about, great post, for that you get a thanks!!!
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That's what I'm talking about, great post, for that you get a thanks!!!
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No problem bro. LOL @ the guy calling you a liar. Some people amaze me.
seriously guys , my intention was not to create a problem.I am not lazy either, i have done my fair share of reading but you have to understand for a guy who has no idea about linux or android ( except that its a kickass software for phones) all the information out there could be a little overwhelming.I didn't read quiet a few" which rom is the best " and they all confused me even more .The most prevalent answers those pots got was a lot a bashing with some " every rom is different , pick one that suits your needs" . Thats why when i started my thread i specifically mentions what i "desired" from the rom.I am really confused about the phone now. Some people on other forums are saying that since HD2 wasn't made for Android you would't get a stable rom for everyday use it is sure to mess up.Its posts like these that are confusing me even more and i am actually thinking about returning the phone and take the easy route of getting a samsung Vibrant.
again thanks for all the guys who mentioned their roms and the ones thats tried to help .honestly just because someone is asking a question doest mean that they were lazy and didnt read anything . If i didn't read anything then i would't have known about NAND .
PS: i love hispanic chicks with huge @%%^ too. Infact i love them all with huge )*##*#
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There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
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you know what
thank you
I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl, we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such. Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues, and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know, but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works, just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead. The roms used to work 100%, but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round. And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing! And I don't mind donating when something is GOOD, when it works and I appreciate the technical work that went in to make it work...not the technical work that went in to make it look pretty, at the expense of some fairy disastrous issues.
Please xda, enough with the benchmark willy waving competition! Please somebody just go back to making things that work rather than pretty...pretty useless...eyecandy!
And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl, we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such. Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues, and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know, but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works, just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead. The roms used to work 100%, but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round. And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing! And I don't mind donating when something is GOOD, when it works and I appreciate the technical work that went in to make it work...not the technical work that went in to make it look pretty, at the expense of some fairy disastrous issues.
Please xda, enough with the benchmark willy waving competition! Please somebody just go back to making things that work rather than pretty...pretty useless...eyecandy!
And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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yes...so why not starting today...make a ROM urself ???
We are all waiting for .35 desire kernel source from HTC?
Peteryoung said:
I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl,
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No, that is because there are less top devs on the device now, Some have moved on to different devices.
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we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such.
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Not at all, ist do to with view counts, posts created etc.
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Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues,
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What you "need" has nothing to do with it, devs dont work on the roms because they have to, They do it because they WANT to, They work on what they "need" or want to and then share the work.
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and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know,
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Correct.
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but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...
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Completely disagree, The work and progress done on the Sense 3 roms is amazing, Sorry you are too ignorant and ungrateful to appreciate that.
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I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works,
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Then go and download one of the older non-sense froyo/GB roms like NexusHD2.
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just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead.
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Well that's your problem, The fact that you are having to do this means that you are CHOOSING to install work in progress builds rather then more developed builds, Its your fault and your problem.
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The roms used to work 100%,
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Err no they didn't, They was developed into a state where they eventually worked and the same will happen to Sense roms.
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but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round.
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Then go download one?!?!
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And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing!
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EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sense Roms where never designed to run on HD2 and that is why they are been developed to do so! If you don't want to be patient or be part of the testing then that's your choice, go and download a simple stock rom!
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And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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Desire base has been ported already and doesn't need more work until the desire gets and update. If you like the desire base so much why don't you just stick to the roms already available? Ill tell you why because you enjoy trying new builds, again that's your decision but you cant then complain just because most of the devs are hard at work on what THEY want to work on rather then what YOU want them to work on!
I personally don't want them to work on anything else apart from the kingdom, why? because its down to personal preference just like yours, at the end of the day its upto each individual dev what they work on!
PS. Please go and learn how to use paragraphs and sentence breaks etc as it just gets on your nerves when trying to read big long blocks like that.
ugh. this crap again? really? another thread dedicated to complaining that xda isn't giving you everything you want yesterday? and what do you expect with this kind of "support" - developers to come running over to you and ask you what you want?
this is exactly, exactly, what pushes people away from here.
really, you should have stopped with "I'm being a whiney little bugger" and just left. really, no one is begging you to stay. you aren't contributing; you are detracting. go on; leave.
@ theatheist - your points (as usual) are right on
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ugh. this crap again? really? another thread dedicated to complaining that xda isn't giving you everything you want yesterday? and what do you expect with this kind of "support" - developers to come running over to you and ask you what you want?
this is exactly, exactly, what pushes people away from here.
really, you should have stopped with "I'm being a whiney little bugger" and just left. really, no one is begging you to stay. you aren't contributing; you are detracting. go on; leave.
@ theatheist - your points (as usual) are right on
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Seconded!
Ignorant people like this OP need banning.
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Seconded!
Ignorant people like this OP need banning.
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Ignorant people, like myself, don't need banning; they need educating - like in your first posting.
I don't tend to go for the latest development, but rather one that works well.
If I want to try out a different version of SD Android, then I read what the chef has posted and all the posts relating to that specific release version. If it states that the camera isn't working yet, then I'll leave it as I use the camera. If it is noted that Bluetooth doesn't connect properly to headset, then I would use it, as I don't Bluetooth.
Playing the devil here:
At some point I can understand Peteryoung and I have seen several other people complain about this as well.
I have the HD2 just to toy around next to my E71 which makes it easy to say that I don't need a +90% working image. If something doesn't work tough ... and I will try another.
It would be nice to have the old trusty working roms like the one from Rafdroid updated to the latest working apps and all of the known fixes in 1 package.
I'm no developer but I am sure some of you could tweak the 'older' sense roms and incorperate all the latest working things. The GPS fixes are a nice example.
I personally applaud the devs in that thread for feedback and just trying to get it to work using feedback and interacting on it.
If the devs are focusing on newer type of roms, so be it and let them do it.
Lets face it, Android is fun on the HD2 but still it is a bit 'playing' around.
A retraction
Guys, I'm sorry
I think I was having a right cranky day when I penned that last grouchy missive.
I stand thoroughly ashamed and rightfully corrected on my last thoughts.
I really do appreciate all the work the devs put in for free here. I really do love the older desire roms and I guess I'm getting old, starting to refuse the changes of the times
I take it all back, I guess I really should stick to what I know best and let the youngsters do what they do best...making NEW stuff, not old.
I must say, I feel a little aggrieved at the sheer vitriol my post gained in response, but hey I guess after I'd battered everybody else with my tirade - that's just what I deserve.
Anyway, I hope the community can find it in their collective hearts to forgive this old sinner - I promise I won't write any more critical tirades on xda any more!
Apologies xda, I love you really xx
Peteryoung
P.S - Was the paragraph structure a little easier on the eye this time round?
Some just are not happy with ****...hey, you don't like it, move on back to WM6.5 where everything works. This is not a native android device so be lucky these developers are spending hours and days and more hours and more days so whiney ass spoiled brats like you can use their work for FREE. Be lucky you can even have ANDROID on the HD2! Another thing is there are plenty of what I consider perfect roms to choose from and many I have donated too.
Your apology is a joke you are still just acting like a *****...man up and get over yourself....
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Ignorant people, like myself, don't need banning; they need educating - like in your first posting.
I don't tend to go for the latest development, but rather one that works well.
If I want to try out a different version of SD Android, then I read what the chef has posted and all the posts relating to that specific release version. If it states that the camera isn't working yet, then I'll leave it as I use the camera. If it is noted that Bluetooth doesn't connect properly to headset, then I would use it, as I don't Bluetooth.
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Exactly
we are at liberty to choose any rom available here irrespective of the development progress
it is fun to flash...Ah, I miss old time when I had to flash ROM 2-3 times a week
Cheers...