My sister is looking at a new phone. She wanted the iphone 4 but with the data plan change she is not sure if she wants to deal with it.
She was talking about switching companies with me, and as long as i can get my unlimited data plan then i'm switching to verizon.
She wants something good, doesn't know which phone though.
both have 1ghz processors and android.
Can't find ram specs on the droid x but i know it's 512mb on the htc.
Anyone have a good comparison and what do you guys thing. I just haven't been in the cell phone scene for almost a year. I am getting ready for a new phone in oct/nov so i am getting into it now.
If you're not doing it for a few months yet, then just wait for a better phone. The Samsung Galaxy S (instantly rootable, and fully open bootloader) is the best phone that is about to come out if you like to have root. The Droid X won't have root for 4+ months according to Birdman, and the bootloader may never be cracked. A real **** move by Motorola.
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I was all set on the moto Droid x, but now...
The Samsung Fascinate is looking really freaking good.
In the side by side reviews that i have seen, the samsung has the best screen that i have ever seen. Plus its rootable, plus it has a faster humming bird 1ghz processor, the same clock speed but in test it shows to be much faster overall.
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I was all set on the moto Droid x, but now...
The Samsung Fascinate is looking really freaking good.
In the side by side reviews that i have seen, the samsung has the best screen that i have ever seen. Plus its rootable, plus it has a faster humming bird 1ghz processor, the same clock speed but in test it shows to be much faster overall.
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I don't know about that? Where are these tests? I was under the impression they are very comparable in speed. I personally like Moto's build quality... even if I can't reflash it. The Fascinate looks like the case is plastic, which just isn't as good as a full metal case.
Between the Droid X and the Droid Incredible, I must say the Droid X, its a powerhouse...
This is for my sister. if it was me, the samsung coming out looks amazing but I am not getting android. Sorry.
She will never do anything for the bootloading or rootable options. She is not into the phone stuff like i am, and wouldn't be able to do it from her technical knowlege. And she is looking right now, can't wait at all, so samsung is out of the question at the moment.
Any other advice would be great. thanks to all that have posted already.
For a girl, the Droid Incredible or wait for the Samsung Fascinate.
Yep. See how she likes the Droid X in the hand first... just drive to a Verizon store and compare the two phones. There's also the problem of the Incredible's availability, but Sense wi definitely be more friendly than Ninjablur for the average user.
I have both and the droid x if far. Better. The incredible battery life sucks. I been using droid x for 11 hours and it still at 23% on the battery. That is with heavy use.
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I have the incredible, droid and the droid x. My opinion is the x even thou the incredible is rooted the x is a whole lot better then both of them combined.
Now with root it will happen with the X and it will be amazing
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This is for my sister. if it was me, the samsung coming out looks amazing but I am not getting android. Sorry.
She will never do anything for the bootloading or rootable options. She is not into the phone stuff like i am, and wouldn't be able to do it from her technical knowlege. And she is looking right now, can't wait at all, so samsung is out of the question at the moment.
Any other advice would be great. thanks to all that have posted already.
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If she needs one asap then go with the x. Htc incredible is on back order till august and i'm sure it will continue to get pushed back.
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Motorola chargers, I wish we could get a universal charging synching option from the industry. Why is it that the USB cord that works perfectly for every other device I have owned will charge and sync but not with Droid X. I just hate the length of the stock cord.
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Are u sure that u had a DI prior to this phone? When i went into adb yesterday to gain root on my X (thanks Birdman!), I used the usb cord that came with my DI. In fact, that DI cord is the only cord I've used to charge and transfer files with on my X.
I have found the X's battery to be a solid improvement over the DI; however, it is still rather easy to drain a full battery over the course of the day. I think it's important to remember that people tend to go through signifcantly higher amounts of data when they get a new toy to play with. Even then, I would say that the X's battery life is slightly better than the HTC 2150 mah extended battery that I bought for my DI.
One area that I've found that the X shines is graphics processing. For example, Need for Speed Shift on the X is by far the the most complete, satisfying gaming experience that I've had on a mobile phone (I dont know what Apple is going to do when even games are superior on the android platform).
While not everyone digs the size of the X, I absolutely adore the large screen. The keyboard on the X is the best I've used on a smartphone, and having the ability to switch to Swype is sweet. And for a movie buff like myself, it is sooo nice to be able to transfer movies from my laptop to my X without first having to convert them
Basically, I am really digging the X. However, the DI is a damn nice phone as well. I personally prefer Sense to Blur, and the DI is extremely polished. Being able to DL custom Roms is invaluable. And although it's completely Motorola's prerogative to design their phone as they wish, there's something about efuse and the encrypted bootloader that chaps my hide.
I had pretty much decided to return my X and go back to my DI, until Birdman gained root access to the x yesterday. Having wireless tether, Titanium, shell access, etc. are hugely important to me. However, i am still not sure if this is enough to compensate for the inability to flash ROMs. Damn, why does the X have to have that damn bootloader?
inc is better. ive played with the x numerous times, but i never wanted to switch. its just not the same. the dinc is one of a kind.
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inc is better. ive played with the x numerous times, but i never wanted to switch. its just not the same. the dinc is one of a kind.
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Eh, my Dad has the Dinc and I have the X..... we BOTH like the X better.
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Eh, my Dad has the Dinc and I have the X..... we BOTH like the X better.
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i guess it is all preference. in my opinion, the dinc is durable when it comes to modding. ive only tried the x for a couple of minutes, so i wouldnt know how the x is. i do have to say, the x is more of a multimedia and social networking phone, and the inc is more business like.
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I don't know about that? Where are these tests? I was under the impression they are very comparable in speed. I personally like Moto's build quality... even if I can't reflash it. The Fascinate looks like the case is plastic, which just isn't as good as a full metal case.
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actually, just for the record. the droid x doesn't have a full metal case.. just the battery door is metal.. much like the Samsung captivate on at&t. but as far as i know you are correct about the Samsung fascinate being "all" plastic. but to put in my two cents. switching from the Dinc to the DX. i am very unsatisfied with the DX slow and laggy UI and the screen looks good and big and clear.. but the colors suck and the contrast ratio is terrible. one of my biggest issues with screens, that of tv, phone, monitor, etc., is being able to see the back light shining through..of which my DX does. So i will be switching to the Galaxy S for that S-AMOLED. but thats just my opinion.
P.S. The Droid X is a really great phone. Just not for me.
The incredible over saturates the colors by over 30 percent. The Droid X is only off by like 6%.
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I will have a droid x tomorrow as it was a replacement. In the mean time I bought a vibrant. I love the V but I also love the X!
I know this is V forum but I will also post this in the X forums to see if anyone there had to make a choice like mine!
If you had to choose, which one and why? WHY did you choose the V?
I assume that by being on XDA you'll want to play around with the phone and custom roms, the Droid X's locked bootloader will dampen the fun. Who knows when people will crack it, might be a month, might be a year.
Agreed with what tissimo said. In addition to that, Vibrant offers Super AMOLED Screen (colors are amazing), and 1GHz Hummingbird Processor. Which are pretty much the best specifications for an Android phone at the moment. Not to mention but its rumored that Verizon will be killing "unlimited data" in the future, so T-Mobile has the upper hand if Verizon goes on with that plan of going on capped data plans.
The screen of the Vibrant is perfect. I think 4.3'' is too big. It feels bad in my pocket. The screen of the X is very close to the edge of the phone (scares me). the semi-blur UI sucks compared to TouchWiz. Having the ability to change settings on the notification bar on the Vibrant rocks (and music controls).
But like everyone has, and will say.... Motorola pissed off the android world when they locked their bootloader like it was the holy grail. I would never buy a phone that I could not flash a custom ROM... and you saw how long it took them to get eclair on the droid, laughable. THANK GOD those with a droid could flash a custom rom (yeah Motorola, that helped you a lot, all of these wonderful developers doing your job).
Well I think the Vibrant is just about the perfect screen size. The Droid X just seems too big. Also, the Vibrant will almost assuredly have CM6 before the Droid X, if the X even gets it at all!
^ sadly, it will not.
after 5 failed cliqs i will never buy another motorola phone.. so no droid x for me.
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after 5 failed cliqs i will never buy another motorola phone.. so no droid x for me.
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Haha yeah I was never really impressed with any of Motorolas more fairly recent (last 3-5 years) build quality. RAZR anyone?
Motorola can suck it. I had the Cliq and had nothing but issues with it, not to mention it was so hard to hack. Motoblur is a horrid piece of software and burns through your battery. The vibrant is 100x better IMO.
Short answer, the Vibrant is the current heavyweight champion of the world. Nothing is better.
I went with Vibrant because I felt it was the best phone at the time, and because I hate Verizon. I love the Vibrant despite some initial bugs.
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I own a Vibrant and my co-worker just got a Droid X.
The screen alone on the V blows the X away, to top it off a unit with a 4" display just feels right, whereas 4.3" is overkill, the Droid X looks like a brick, but at the same token I am getting comments that my V is an iPhone rip-off.
As far as the performance is concerned, I felt the Vibrant was snappier especially with Launcher Pro instead of TouchWiz.
cons of X are: probably better support (maybe it will see Gingerbread), 2 noise canceling mics (although i dont know if they work good, Vibrant has 0), camera with dual flash.
Everything else goes to Vibrant......battery life (although i read X is also good), screen quality, size, speed, bluetooth 3.0 (whatever that does)...
X is already seeing updates with fixes, and will see 2.2 very soon........while 2.2 is also coming to Vibrant, nobody knows if its this month or maybe as late as November
I heard the camera is better on dx too. I think it comes down to what provider you can deal with. Verizon is pretty expensive.
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Droid X doesn't have an ARM processor (fail)
What you should really be asking yourself is incredible vs vibrant. Droid x is cute, but its hardware is lacking compared to either of these other phones. Not to mention Motorola phones have been difficult to mod even before the bootloader was locked.
I have to give it to Motorola that they made android way more popular in the USA than it used to be, but for anyone interested in custom ROMs or developing, they just don't compare.
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Short answer, the Vibrant is the current heavyweight champion of the world. Nothing is better.
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Vibrant is the heavyweight champ and literally weighs like nothing in your hand! All around such a great device!
I went into verizon the other day and played with the droid x for sum time and i have to say i didnt like it all that much. I have the vibrant and its perfect it gets a lil laggy sumtimes but what fones dont and if u root it and get setcpu runnin on it, it will be flawless trust me. and the Vibrant is Super AMOLED scratch resistant screen meanin u dont got to buy a screen protector
I'm down with both phones but once you play with the Vibrant's Amoled screen for a couple days it's difficult going back to LCD screens. It's that good.
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I heard the camera is better on dx too. I think it comes down to what provider you can deal with. Verizon is pretty expensive.
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Its about the same quality. More mps doesnt make it better. Vibrant has ton of in camera features, dont know about X
EDIT. iPhone, Sony, and Nokia cameras are the best on the market, the rest all have glitches here and there and all about the same quality....Vibrant camera is not sharp enough, maybe its a software glitch with auto focus or something...X camera pictures I believe come out noisy due to 8MP, Nexus One pictures lack color....
I just want some opinions! Im about to get a new phone and I am leaning towards the Incredible because I currently have the Eris and its been great. I really like HTC. But I wanted to see what you guys have to say... The price is the same for both if I upgrade.... Never really been a fan of Motorolla but seems like a viable option... Anyone got the time to answer
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I just want some opinions! Im about to get a new phone and I am leaning towards the Incredible because I currently have the Eris and its been great. I really like HTC. But I wanted to see what you guys have to say... The price is the same for both if I upgrade.... Never really been a fan of Motorolla but seems like a viable option... Anyone got the time to answer
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I've compared the two phone and for me, other than the battery life, the Incredible wins hands-down. I think the screen is WAY too big on the X to use as a nimble one-handed device. The display on the DI is much better than the X.
...Plus, ever since my StarTAC experience, Motorola can kiss my hairy donkey.
Motorola makes great phones. The inclusion of a separate gpu is awesome. That being said I would take my incredible over the Droid x any day of the week. The sense UI is much much better then motoblur, the screen is wayyyy wayyy to big. Performance wise its great, but do u really want to always be carrying a psp in ur pocket?
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youve both mentioned the same the same concerns I have.. I dont want a brick in my pocket.. I love the eris for alot of reasons but size is a big thing... I have friends with the moto droid and I cant stand having it in my hand... i was thinking i might be able to get used to it though.. have either of you rooted... and was it a hard process.... i rooted my eris and had no problems doing it but it makes me nervous getting a new phone and messing it up...
In my relatively short experience with the Android platform, I have gone (in the following order) through the following phones:
HTC Incredible
Moto Droid X
Moto Droid 2
HTC Incredible
I got the Incredible initially as a parting gift to myself for being fed up with BlackBerry. I was immediately wowed by the phone. It's speedy, takes great pictures, great call quality and I've experienced no reception issues.
Then, the release of the Droid X. The phone is huge, however the lightweight of the device offset this and didn't bother my hands once I got used to it. After my developing obsession with development and modding had fully set in, I became upset with the phone because of the heavily locked bootloader. The fact that the Verizon store I purchased it from said I'd have 2.2 in 2 weeks from the launch date (never happened and still hasn't happened) didn't help.
I was happy with the phone, however, the pictures that it took seemed overly grainy and I wasn't that impressed with the 720p quality which seemed too choppy and not as smooth as I had expected. Call quality again was excellent, however the speaker volume seemed to lack (compared to my Incredible). I was not a fan of ninjablur either.
Then the Droid 2 was released. I was on a mission to get an officially released version of 2.2. I figured that the original Droid had been a hit, and all the guts under the hood were revamped for what should seem to make an amazing phone. WRONG. Slow as hell, choppy, negligible call quality, rampant overheating which crippled your ability to use the phone etc. (if the Droid 2 performance is what people can expect when the X gets it's upgrade, I feel bad for you guys)
So now, I'm back to my Incredible that I stuffed in the drawer while going through those upgrades. I'm happier with a camera that comes with a better camera, snappier operating system, S-OFF and a plethora of customization options. The 2150 battery gives me between 2-3 days of no charge, and I'm happy with my loud speaker volume as well. Plus, after installing the 2.2 RUU that was recently released, I'm happily enjoying solid Linpack scores in the mid to high 30's, fixed bugs etc.
I say get the Incredible, I believe it to be a better phone all around. And you'll appreciate the wide range of options you have for the phone as well.
i am also trying to choose between the two. i'm leaning to the incredible because i think htc makes better phones and i love sense (a lot) but the reason i'm considering the x is the screen is so big. i think thats really great, and it has swype and an hdmi and stuff. but i feel like besides the screen being smaller on the inc, htc makes everything work much better than motorola
Used to own an incredible, had s-off on it, SkyRaider and everything, then gave it to my girlfriend and got a Droid X, i wouldnt go back
Ive attached a benchmark of my rooted Droid X running Froyo, take a look below...
Also the bootloader thing has been bypassed... we have clockworkmod recovery now and can flash custom roms, also one thing that should be known about motorola is that they make one HELL of a radio for there devices... In my house my HTC Incredible used to fluctuate between 2 and 3 bars.. mostly on two... with my Droid X its been dead nuts 100% full signal the whole time and dosent budge.. and i was using the 2.15 radio in my inc but had the same issue on the original 1.0 baseband
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Used to own an incredible, had s-off on it, SkyRaider and everything, then gave it to my girlfriend and got a Droid X, i wouldnt go back
Ive attached a benchmark of my rooted Droid X running Froyo, take a look below...
Also the bootloader thing has been bypassed... we have clockworkmod recovery now and can flash custom roms, also one thing that should be known about motorola is that they make one HELL of a radio for there devices... In my house my HTC Incredible used to fluctuate between 2 and 3 bars.. mostly on two... with my Droid X its been dead nuts 100% full signal the whole time and dosent budge.. and i was using the 2.15 radio in my inc but had the same issue on the original 1.0 baseband
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While I can say I'm impressed with the Quadrant Scores, being that there are known flaws in the system that can be tweaked to yield higher Quadrant benchmarks means (as simple as changing a numerical value in the build.props, and I'm not accusing you of such just to be clear) that it can no longer be used as a reliable benchmarking system... especially if you are not using dead stock software that has been cooked, pulled or whatever.
It is also well known that "Bars" are not reliable indications of service reception. Holding my Droid X and Incredible right now as I type; the Droid X is showing full bars at -98dbm, while the Incredible is showing 2 bars -95dbm.
Just saying that's all
My incredible used to get anywere from 85 to 98dbm in my house, my X gets 72dbm, the X will always score higher on quadrant simply because its just plain got a better processor, however slight of an advantage it may be, its still something... but the major thing is the seperate GPU that throws it worlds ahead in graphics processing.. on quadrant in the first 3d demo where you are walking through the tunnel i get consistent 28 FPS.. even while turning the corner which is where it normally drops, it dosent drop on mine
I'm not saying the incredible is a bad device, as I used to own one.. However just an fyi my droid x scored a 1200 on quadrant right out of the box it was the first app I installed, and that was running 2.1
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I'm not saying the incredible is a bad device, as I used to own one.. However just an fyi my droid x scored a 1200 on quadrant right out of the box it was the first app I installed, and that was running 2.1
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And I'm not knocking the Droid X in anyway. Both phones are incredible (yeah yeah I know its a pun) devices. Both just fill different niches in the Android community.
Which I why I love and am obsessed with Android. No one-device-fits-all environment!
Eat **** Apple.
You may also want to consider the Samsung Fascinate that is getting ready to come out. Slick UI, Hummingbird processor is extremely fast, has a seperate GPU, and a beautiful screen. I also think 4" is the perfect screen size. just my $.02
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Used to own an incredible, had s-off on it, SkyRaider and everything, then gave it to my girlfriend and got a Droid X, i wouldnt go back
Ive attached a benchmark of my rooted Droid X running Froyo, take a look below...
Also the bootloader thing has been bypassed... we have clockworkmod recovery now and can flash custom roms, also one thing that should be known about motorola is that they make one HELL of a radio for there devices... In my house my HTC Incredible used to fluctuate between 2 and 3 bars.. mostly on two... with my Droid X its been dead nuts 100% full signal the whole time and dosent budge.. and i was using the 2.15 radio in my inc but had the same issue on the original 1.0 baseband
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The bootloader is still keeping you from running a custom kernel, correct?
The X has a nice GPU (My friend has one), BUT, the screen compared to an Dinc's screen is like analog vs digital. The Dinc's screen is so much more vivid, colorful and detailed than the X's. I wouldn't trade for the X.
Samsungs fascinate looks great. But if i recall from the images..its a 3Giphone look a like..Only the captivate looks sleek in my opinion and there are some serious GPS issues plaguing the Galaxy S phones right now...and lets face it..samsung hasnt been the best of companies when it comes to keeping up with upgrades..sure 2.2 is probably insight, but will they support gingerbread? hmmm. HTC/Moto on verizon's network is a win either way. They have CDMA down.
Joe92T said:
Used to own an incredible, had s-off on it, SkyRaider and everything, then gave it to my girlfriend and got a Droid X, i wouldnt go back
Ive attached a benchmark of my rooted Droid X running Froyo, take a look below...
Also the bootloader thing has been bypassed... we have clockworkmod recovery now and can flash custom roms, also one thing that should be known about motorola is that they make one HELL of a radio for there devices... In my house my HTC Incredible used to fluctuate between 2 and 3 bars.. mostly on two... with my Droid X its been dead nuts 100% full signal the whole time and dosent budge.. and i was using the 2.15 radio in my inc but had the same issue on the original 1.0 baseband
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Yeah...I'm gonna have to call bs on that...sorry.
Joe92T said:
Used to own an incredible, had s-off on it, SkyRaider and everything, then gave it to my girlfriend and got a Droid X, i wouldnt go back
Ive attached a benchmark of my rooted Droid X running Froyo, take a look below...
Also the bootloader thing has been bypassed... we have clockworkmod recovery now and can flash custom roms, also one thing that should be known about motorola is that they make one HELL of a radio for there devices... In my house my HTC Incredible used to fluctuate between 2 and 3 bars.. mostly on two... with my Droid X its been dead nuts 100% full signal the whole time and dosent budge.. and i was using the 2.15 radio in my inc but had the same issue on the original 1.0 baseband
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Gonna call BS on that unless you uninstall Quadrant, make a video of you installing Quadrant from the market, running it, and getting that score.
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I'm not saying the incredible is a bad device, as I used to own one.. However just an fyi my droid x scored a 1200 on quadrant right out of the box it was the first app I installed, and that was running 2.1
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Let me get this straight. So you're saying that the Droid X is a better phone because it scores higher on a benchmarking application? That is your only justification for switching?
I really appreciate all the feedback. But I think Im leaning incredible. I just cant help but like HTC's product....
Ok, so i'm considering switching carriers and giving up my samsung captive for a droid x... whatcha think? Pros? Cons? How do you like it, in comparison to other phones? How customisable is the droid x? Any input would be greatly appreciated lol, I like my captivate, but the droid x seems pretty superior.
I came from a HTC Touch (xv6900) that I had 2.2 running on a while ago... I must say the X is overall a perfect 10.
Why? Heres why:
The android operating system is basically the same on every phone... and if it is too buggy or full of bloat, there are DEVs our there making it possible for us noobs to keep up with how the Android system should be running(I am referring to Motorola's Blur BS that lags this phone down so much it is unbelievable).
So, knowing that the OS of the phone is pretty much just as good as it was meant to be for ya(and yes, the X is getting themes to make yours YOU), that only leaves the Hardware differences really....
So, all in all, if you think you are going to like the X, you will probably love it. If you are weary because it doesn't have a physical keyboard, then go get a Droid 2.
It is the best phone that Verizon currently offers BTW. Some can say the Droid 2 is better because it has a keyboard, well.... So does the X, it is just one on the screen. And, I have better components inside of this phone that make it.. well, BETTER.
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Ok, so i'm considering switching carriers and giving up my samsung captive for a droid x... whatcha think? Pros? Cons? How do you like it, in comparison to other phones? How customisable is the droid x? Any input would be greatly appreciated lol, I like my captivate, but the droid x seems pretty superior.
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I just did this exact switch about a month ago now. Haven't looped back one. The only thing I will say that I miss from the captivate is the AMOLED screen. Other than that, the DX wins hands down in speed and performance.
While the kernal is locked down, this hasn't stopped the first few custom roms from showing up. Also, I think there is a lot more devs and peers in the DX community which will make developing faster and support better IMO.
Do it!
Haha wow, you guys pretty much put to rest any doubts i had about the X, ill start making the necessary arrangements...i guess ill start seein ya around the X forums lol, thanks
and if all else fails... verizon will have the fascinate in a week, which IMO looks a whole lot better than the captivate and has flash! =)
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and if all else fails... verizon will have the fascinate in a week, which IMO looks a whole lot better than the captivate and has flash! =)
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I would advise anyone who is thinking about the Samsung to go check it out in stores when possible.... I hear it feels cheap.
The X does not
i have the vibrant and the droid x and will say that the vibrant doesn't quite have the solid feel of the Dx, though for me it fits my hand better than the Dx. the vibrant is a bit plasticky feeling and it has developed a minor squeak, not as bad as my old G1 though.
yes, the super amoled is a really nice screen but it's not all that 'super' on a sunny day....it's not quite as easy to read as the Dx when it's really bright outside.
they are both really nice phones and as is often the case, it comes down to choice of carrier.....which won't be a problem once they release the fascinate!
I hadn't really heard much about the fascinate except that its a slider, and I'd rather have a bar phone, which is why I was leaning toward droid x...didnt you say the kernel was locked on the droid x though? whats up with that? And I can still use wireless tether on X right?
Yes the kernal is locked, but this is just showing down custom roms (which we are starting to see...like flyx). I use wireless tether with no problems though! Can't wait to welcome another happy dx user!
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the fascinate isn't a slider, sprint's version is.
Oh ok...one more question, even though im already halfway through switching lol, i heard that the samsung galaxy s series is faster than the droid x...is it super noticable? Or is that false lol...this is mostly aimed at anyone who had a samsung captivate or other phone in the galaxy series
Is the performance super noticable? No. Are the graphical capabilities? Yes.
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the only place i've noticed a difference is in 'benchmarks'.....in real world use, they both perform equally well, or poorly, depending on what you've got on your home screen.....if you start loading up widgets, live wallpaper, etc....they both become laggy. those damned widgets, however useful, can really bog the phone down.
i've put the same games on both phones and really seen no difference, other than the vibrant screen looking more colorful.......maybe someone else had a different experience.
Cant decide which one to get. vote and Post why you chose the one you chose.
the only reason why i am leaning towards the fascinate is no locked boot loader and fast GPU for games and it seems more smooth and snappy. but i dunno if those are real issues....
on this forum, it looks like the droid X is only slightly more popular.
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/09/07/samsung-fascinate-review/
my bigest concern is that no 2.2 means no official flash support. and since it recieved an maintanance update recently its not coming for a bit (otherwise they'd role it all into one). that and i hate bing. following birdman's tweets... there seems to be a lot of odd things with the root folder structure as well.
its all personal preferance, i look at the fascinate more as a toy.
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http://www.droid-life.com/2010/09/07/samsung-fascinate-review/
my bigest concern is that no 2.2 means no official flash support. and since it recieved an maintanance update recently its not coming for a bit (otherwise they'd role it all into one). that and i hate bing. following birdman's tweets... there seems to be a lot of odd things with the root folder structure as well.
its all personal preferance, i look at the fascinate more as a toy.
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im kinda out of the loop right now. whats the story with the droid x and 2.2? that is somewhat of a big deal.
IMO, all the X has over the Fascinate is:
a lot heavier (5.47oz vs 4.1oz),
slightly larger (127x66x10.2mm vs 125x64x10.5mm),
bigger screen (4.3" vs 4.0"),
bigger camera lens (8mp vs 5mp).
*better reception*
And, oh yeah, Froyo!
Latest word from Samsung, Fascinate will have Froyo "by the end of the year." I prefer a 4" SAmoled to 4.3" LCD and I've read the Samsung takes better pictures even with the smaller lens, So I'm leaning Fascinate as well. But NOT impressed with Samsung's support.
I have a vibrant running a leaked TMo froyo, and I've played with the DX, everyone is different but I much prefer the Galaxy. Screen, feel, non-blur, really good developers, super easy to root/customize and the phone has some millions... lots of support.
I just went through 3 replacements in 7 days. I like the hackabliity of the Fascinate and the screen is gorgeous but its too thin and between TouchWiz being stock and Samsung still not having Froyo out on the eve of Gingerbread I'm not impressed. I have a Droid X on the way and couldn't be happier. Motorola has the best reception and data speed IMO. As long as I have root and WiFi Tether I'm fine. Someone will crack the bootloader eventually. The devs here are amazing.
I should add "Better reception" to my above post, that is a significant plus for the Droid X. Thanks for that, Jeffnucci. However, if you think the Fascinate is too thin you are going to be disappointed to learn the Droid X is actually thinner. Thinner and heavier may mean more fragile due to increased momentum from a 3' fall.
I think the bootloader on the Droid X is like 2.2 on the Fascinate - just don't have it yet but won't be a significant difference in several months. When they are running the same software, it's just the differences in hardware that will matter.
SupraLance said:
I should add "Better reception" to my above post, that is a significant plus for the Droid X. Thanks for that, Jeffnucci. However, if you think the Fascinate is too thin you are going to be disappointed to learn the Droid X is actually thinner. Thinner and heavier may mean more fragile due to increased momentum from a 3' fall.
I think the bootloader on the Droid X is like 2.2 on the Fascinate - just don't have it yet but won't be a significant difference in several months. When they are running the same software, it's just the differences in hardware that will matter.
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The X is heavier though is it not? Thin and light gives me the feeling of cheapness in my hands. The X feels like it has a nice heft to it.
I played with the fascinate a bit and did not really like the feel of it. I like the fact that the DX is made of metal and has a larger screen. IMO AMOLED screens suck in bright sunlight. Almost unusable in my experience. I have owned samsung phones in the past and my experience with samsung support is sub par. Combine the DX with the Fission Rom and that equals awesomeness...lol
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I played with the fascinate a bit and did not really like the feel of it. I like the fact that the DX is made of metal and has a larger screen. IMO AMOLED screens suck in bright sunlight. Almost unusable in my experience. I have owned samsung phones in the past and my experience with samsung support is sub par. Combine the DX with the Fission Rom and that equals awesomeness...lol
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whats so special abou the fission rom???
Fission is a vanilla android experience. It's blazing fast and doesn't have blur crap. It's a brand new phone I'm holding in my hands.
Yes it is really fast. They have worked out most if not all of the bugs and will have an official release on monday. The speed, amount of ram, and battery consumption are just a few reason to use it.
Droid x is better I had the fascinate for a month it is too buggy and cheap feeling went back to the x it is just a better phone.
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Droid x is better I had the fascinate for a month it is too buggy and cheap feeling went back to the x it is just a better phone.
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Agreed. I just got my X and it is the best phone I've had yet. I've owned an iPhone 4, a BlackBerry Torch, a Fascinate, a Droid, etc. This is fast, it feels good in my hands, it looks nice, I love it.
I had an incredible (rooted). Sweat got behind the screen so my local verizon store gave me the option of another inc or the facinate. I took the facinate. Voice quality sucks, signal sucks but the screen is unbelievable. Due to reception issues I can swap for an X but after comparing screens I just can't pull the trigger. The X's screen colors seem very washed... Is this normal or is there a fix?
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two words: "unlocked bitloader".... i am sick of this crap and this will be the last moto i own if it continues.... i wouldint buy a laptop if it had the same thing...
I have had every single phone VZW has to offer. (smart phone wise) I had the Fascinate and honestly loved it. The screen in AMAZING. I couldn't believe how nice it was and the picture quality is literally as good if not better than the X. I currently have a X and really enjoy it but i find myself missing my Fascinate from time to time. A lot of people are saying it felt cheap because of how thin it is... But i kind of liked that... The thiness i mean
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I have had every single phone VZW has to offer. (smart phone wise) I had the Fascinate and honestly loved it. The screen in AMAZING. I couldn't believe how nice it was and the picture quality is literally as good if not better than the X. I currently have a X and really enjoy it but i find myself missing my Fascinate from time to time. A lot of people are saying it felt cheap because of how thin it is... But i kind of liked that... The thiness i mean
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About the cheap feel, With the kickstand case on it, its a different phone. I don't think I can return it lol.
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I went with the X due to reception, mics (noise cancellation and sound quality), battery life and the build quality.
I love the form factor and the samoled screen on the fascinate but I wasn't comfortable going with that phone due to the wonky GPS. I don't use the GPS that often but when I do I need it to work.
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I had an incredible (rooted). Sweat got behind the screen so my local verizon store gave me the option of another inc or the facinate. I took the facinate. Voice quality sucks, signal sucks but the screen is unbelievable. Due to reception issues I can swap for an X but after comparing screens I just can't pull the trigger. The X's screen colors seem very washed... Is this normal or is there a fix?
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The X isn't washed out, the Fascinate is just massively oversaturated. Just the nature of OLED displays. A day of not using one and you'll realize the X in fact has a very lovely screen. And technically very close to color correct.
I do love my X, but I have grown a little tired of the size and form factor. I am a little worried I might be disappointed with the battery life and a possible resale value on the INC if I do make the switch.
Anyone had a good experience going to the INC form the X?
I haven't had an X myself but I don't know why you should be concerned about resale value..you're using the phone.
The form factor of the DX sucks IMO, it's bulky and ugly.
The Incredible's screen is much nicer quality too, even the SLCD version. When comparing the screen sizes it's like quantity vs. quality.
If you're into custom ROMs and such, the INC is a great phone.
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I haven't had an X myself but I don't know why you should be concerned about resale value..you're using the phone.
The form factor of the DX sucks IMO, it's bulky and ugly.
The Incredible's screen is much nicer quality too, even the SLCD version. When comparing the screen sizes it's like quantity vs. quality.
If you're into custom ROMs and such, the INC is a great phone.
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Only thinking about resale to help me buy a new phone when some newer versions come out (I had used the new every 2, even though its gone now, on X release date).
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I am a little worried I might be disappointed with the battery life and a possible resale value on the INC if I do make the switch.
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I can assure you not to worry about the resale value because, INC has a higher resale value than DX. INC is about $152 while DX is only about $96.
Check it out here!
https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/Home.aspx
fortesquieu said:
I can assure you not to worry about the resale value because, INC has a higher resale value than DX. INC is about $152 while DX is only about $96.
Check it out here!
https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/Home.aspx
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Hrmm I wonder why that is. I have been trying to look at what people are selling these for in the forums.
I had the x and switched to the dinc. HTC does a way better job with Android if you ask me. The community does much better with HTC devices as well. Sense is a must have for me as well.
Even though the evo sold mass amount of phones, I think its too big. I the x was just as big and drove me crazy. I like the size of the dinc. With the evos 1500 mAh battery in my dinc, I can last all day no problem.
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I had an X and returned it for an Incredible. Part of the reason was because the Incredible was free and the X had cost me $200. That said, the Incredible feels faster, even with slightly slower hardware, thanks to HTC's superior software. Motorola's software package is pretty terrible.
I made that switch. The battery life is definitely worse on the incredible. I missed the big screen at first. Made the incredible seem extra small coming from the X. I have an slcd incredible and even that screen seems to have much more contrast than the Droid x. I like running cyanogenmod and custom kernels so im enjoying the incredible.
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I had the x and switched to the dinc. HTC does a way better job with Android if you ask me. The community does much better with HTC devices as well. Sense is a must have for me as well.
Even though the evo sold mass amount of phones, I think its too big. I the x was just as big and drove me crazy. I like the size of the dinc. With the evos 1500 mAh battery in my dinc, I can last all day no problem.
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Wait a minute! The Evo battery fits the DInc? Please confirm!
I'm actually confused myself. On htcpedia there is the 1500mah for $40 for the incredible .... but the 1500mah for the evo is $30... are they the same and does it matter?
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Wait a minute! The Evo battery fits the DInc? Please confirm!
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Yes.
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X might be a nice phone but with a locked bootloader that's harder to get in than Fort knox...no thanks I will stick with my Incredible
I went from an Incredible to an X back to the Incredible
The X had nothing but issues, and screen wasn't nearly as gorgeous as the AMOLED one.
The Sense UI is the best UI you can get for Android, in my opinion hands down the best.
The hardware of the Incredible feels faster too like another poster said, on the X my friend and I were in a parking garage waiting to get a GPS signal, i pulled my Incredible out and mine found our location when the X was still looking for 10 more mins.
The X is also too tall, it doesn't use the right screen ratio like the EVO and ThunderBolt will.
The developer community is the best on EVO/Incredible vs Droid 1/2/X
and I also develop themes for Incredible which i'll be moving on to ThunderBolt
I just got an inc keeping my x to try this out. Only two things so far I don't like:
-can see the touchscreen sensors on a white background(emails or web usually)
-touch screen isn't quite as accurate as the x
-there was a hair under the glass screen. Looks like the screen isn't that tight around the body. Compressed air blew it right out though.
On a positive sense KILLS blur! The overall feel is great, better widgets, comfortable formfactor.
I had an X until 2 weeks ago. I miss it... The screen size is enough for me to be trying to get it back. I have BIG hands and I could fly texting on my X but on this, Im hitting backspace more than any other key, even with auto correct. The reason I traded was to be able to customize more which is definitely better. Another issue is with games. The Inc is slow to respond and it glitches and pauses all the time playing homerun battle 3d. The X NEVER did that. I don't know, they both have their positives and negatives but my hands alone are the reason I'm trying to trade back to an X. BUT I will come back to HTC when the Thunderbolt comes out. NO DOUBT, cause sense destroys blur. always had to use Luancherpro on the X but never on the Inc because of the custom roms...
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I just got an inc keeping my x to try this out. Only two things so far I don't like:
-can see the touchscreen sensors on a white background(emails or web usually)
-touch screen isn't quite as accurate as the x
-there was a hair under the glass screen. Looks like the screen isn't that tight around the body. Compressed air blew it right out though.
On a positive sense KILLS blur! The overall feel is great, better widgets, comfortable formfactor.
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What do you mean by the touch screen isn't as accurate? My friend and my cousin both have the X, my brother has the Fascinate, and I have the Incredible. I've used all 3 phones extensively and in my experience, the X has the least responsive touch screen of all. Do you mean accuracy as in trying to click on small links on web pages or something? If that's the case it might just be because the screen is smaller; if you're having trouble you could try highlighting the link or button that you want to click with the trackpad.
re x
i have the droid incredible and i bought the droid x on the week it came out.
Immiatlely i was dissappointed at the same time some things were great.
The low audio on the navigation even with the windows up made it unusable with turn by turn directions... im sure they fixed this.
The ****ty Moto UI = **** sammitch.
The below average quality of the lcd, it looked washed out and bland compared to my incredible.
The large 4.3 inch screen was awesome to surf on.
it was thin for a large phone.
It was new.
I have had many phones in the past and none of them gave me the same kind of user experience as HTC and sadly the iphone.
If i was technically retarded and was an old woman i would have kept my iphone..
But nobody besides HTC has made a better phone AND UI...
Samsung UI = **** , hardware = ok, software updates = ****
Motorola UI = **** see above
LG = **** **** and more ****
Sony = erickson = ****
nokia = failing ball of **** sammitch.. check their stocks.
Blackberry = corporate fail, good comm device.. everything else is 10 years behind.
iphone = boring plus your instantly enrolled in a group of 10 year olds and wanna be tech folks ... and mothers...any phone an old woman is comfortable using is a phone i do not want.
Well I had to trade the INC back because there was dust collecting under the screen. I am absolutely in LOVE with the phone compared to the X. But the big question I can't decide on now is:
Do I sell my X and go buy an INC retail so I at least have a 1 year warranty on it or buy one used and hope for the best (buying a new one would probably cost me 230 or so).
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I had an X until 2 weeks ago. I miss it... The screen size is enough for me to be trying to get it back. I have BIG hands and I could fly texting on my X but on this, Im hitting backspace more than any other key, even with auto correct. The reason I traded was to be able to customize more which is definitely better. Another issue is with games. The Inc is slow to respond and it glitches and pauses all the time playing homerun battle 3d. The X NEVER did that. I don't know, they both have their positives and negatives but my hands alone are the reason I'm trying to trade back to an X. BUT I will come back to HTC when the Thunderbolt comes out. NO DOUBT, cause sense destroys blur. always had to use Luancherpro on the X but never on the Inc because of the custom roms...
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Yeah games was the only thing, but I haven't played one game on my X except for paper toss. Not such a big deal to me.
I started on an X... rooted it, ROMed it (to the extent that it can be, anyway), and tried to be patient while the devs cracked the boot...and got tired of waiting. I traded it to a friend straight up for an AMOLED DInc after 3 months, and seriously, there's no comparison. I love the freedom to load CM, or Ruby, or SkyRaider on my phone. I love the ability to remap the soft keys on my HTC or use QuickDesk or PowerStrip (neither of them can be done on the X due to the locking down of the hard keys by Moto).
The only two things that I miss about the X are the bigger screen, which I really liked, and the fact that Moto's build quality is very good (it always has been), but that is it. I'll never buy another motorola product ever again unless I hear that it is open- and not because I'm some sort of super-dev, either- simply because I get better support from the dev community whose ROMs I run when I have a problem than I've ever gotten from Moto or Verizon.
The X had pretty impressive specs, but it was absolutely weighted down under Blur... SOOOO slow. I didn't even realize how slow it was until I rooted and ROMed it using rubiX, which is truly an awesome ROM considering how locked the X is, but even then it really had a lot of stupid issues (random rebooting, etc.). Then once I found out that I couldn't connect to the 802.1x wifi at my school (a known motorola issue which STILL has yet to be fixed on the DX and D2), it was over.
I've gone DInc and never regretted it.
As far as the screen, I really think that SLCD vs. AMOLED is personal preference. The colors on AMOLED are suuuuper saturated, very "thick" looking to my eyes. I don't mind SLCD screen colors or look at all, but they're definitely toned down compared to AMOLED.
What about the processor speed? Well, both of them have 1gHz processors, and with the current battery technology we have right now, I really wouldn't want much more than a that- anything faster just eats battery, really. I get some lulz from all the spec queens out there who OC their phones to 1.5 and higher, and who have to have the latest dual-core processors- they're going to spend their whole lives plugged in to the wall cuz their batteries won't last 6 hours, and then complain about bad battery life. My 1gHz snapdragon loads pages, flash, and videos from the web with no problem. I've seen the AnandTech reviews about the DX's processor being slightly faster than the DInc's, but then you have to consider Blur and (REALLY) crappy Moto software and bloat (VZW navigator, Visual Voicemail, City ID, etc.) slowing everything down again. My CM7 / ADW EX DInc is hella snappy, and I get through almost 36 hours per charge (HTC Imagio 1700mAh battery) with frequent use. No OC/UCing, totally stock.
I AM looking forward to LTE tho. That should be a real improvement. Anyway, I'm off the soapbox. Hope this helped? I dunno. I'm sittin here drinkin coffee and saw this thread. Good luck.
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