Incredible or Droid x - Droid Incredible General

I just want some opinions! Im about to get a new phone and I am leaning towards the Incredible because I currently have the Eris and its been great. I really like HTC. But I wanted to see what you guys have to say... The price is the same for both if I upgrade.... Never really been a fan of Motorolla but seems like a viable option... Anyone got the time to answer

leech2082 said:
I just want some opinions! Im about to get a new phone and I am leaning towards the Incredible because I currently have the Eris and its been great. I really like HTC. But I wanted to see what you guys have to say... The price is the same for both if I upgrade.... Never really been a fan of Motorolla but seems like a viable option... Anyone got the time to answer
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I've compared the two phone and for me, other than the battery life, the Incredible wins hands-down. I think the screen is WAY too big on the X to use as a nimble one-handed device. The display on the DI is much better than the X.
...Plus, ever since my StarTAC experience, Motorola can kiss my hairy donkey.

Motorola makes great phones. The inclusion of a separate gpu is awesome. That being said I would take my incredible over the Droid x any day of the week. The sense UI is much much better then motoblur, the screen is wayyyy wayyy to big. Performance wise its great, but do u really want to always be carrying a psp in ur pocket?
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youve both mentioned the same the same concerns I have.. I dont want a brick in my pocket.. I love the eris for alot of reasons but size is a big thing... I have friends with the moto droid and I cant stand having it in my hand... i was thinking i might be able to get used to it though.. have either of you rooted... and was it a hard process.... i rooted my eris and had no problems doing it but it makes me nervous getting a new phone and messing it up...

In my relatively short experience with the Android platform, I have gone (in the following order) through the following phones:
HTC Incredible
Moto Droid X
Moto Droid 2
HTC Incredible
I got the Incredible initially as a parting gift to myself for being fed up with BlackBerry. I was immediately wowed by the phone. It's speedy, takes great pictures, great call quality and I've experienced no reception issues.
Then, the release of the Droid X. The phone is huge, however the lightweight of the device offset this and didn't bother my hands once I got used to it. After my developing obsession with development and modding had fully set in, I became upset with the phone because of the heavily locked bootloader. The fact that the Verizon store I purchased it from said I'd have 2.2 in 2 weeks from the launch date (never happened and still hasn't happened) didn't help.
I was happy with the phone, however, the pictures that it took seemed overly grainy and I wasn't that impressed with the 720p quality which seemed too choppy and not as smooth as I had expected. Call quality again was excellent, however the speaker volume seemed to lack (compared to my Incredible). I was not a fan of ninjablur either.
Then the Droid 2 was released. I was on a mission to get an officially released version of 2.2. I figured that the original Droid had been a hit, and all the guts under the hood were revamped for what should seem to make an amazing phone. WRONG. Slow as hell, choppy, negligible call quality, rampant overheating which crippled your ability to use the phone etc. (if the Droid 2 performance is what people can expect when the X gets it's upgrade, I feel bad for you guys)
So now, I'm back to my Incredible that I stuffed in the drawer while going through those upgrades. I'm happier with a camera that comes with a better camera, snappier operating system, S-OFF and a plethora of customization options. The 2150 battery gives me between 2-3 days of no charge, and I'm happy with my loud speaker volume as well. Plus, after installing the 2.2 RUU that was recently released, I'm happily enjoying solid Linpack scores in the mid to high 30's, fixed bugs etc.
I say get the Incredible, I believe it to be a better phone all around. And you'll appreciate the wide range of options you have for the phone as well.

i am also trying to choose between the two. i'm leaning to the incredible because i think htc makes better phones and i love sense (a lot) but the reason i'm considering the x is the screen is so big. i think thats really great, and it has swype and an hdmi and stuff. but i feel like besides the screen being smaller on the inc, htc makes everything work much better than motorola

Used to own an incredible, had s-off on it, SkyRaider and everything, then gave it to my girlfriend and got a Droid X, i wouldnt go back
Ive attached a benchmark of my rooted Droid X running Froyo, take a look below...
Also the bootloader thing has been bypassed... we have clockworkmod recovery now and can flash custom roms, also one thing that should be known about motorola is that they make one HELL of a radio for there devices... In my house my HTC Incredible used to fluctuate between 2 and 3 bars.. mostly on two... with my Droid X its been dead nuts 100% full signal the whole time and dosent budge.. and i was using the 2.15 radio in my inc but had the same issue on the original 1.0 baseband

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Used to own an incredible, had s-off on it, SkyRaider and everything, then gave it to my girlfriend and got a Droid X, i wouldnt go back
Ive attached a benchmark of my rooted Droid X running Froyo, take a look below...
Also the bootloader thing has been bypassed... we have clockworkmod recovery now and can flash custom roms, also one thing that should be known about motorola is that they make one HELL of a radio for there devices... In my house my HTC Incredible used to fluctuate between 2 and 3 bars.. mostly on two... with my Droid X its been dead nuts 100% full signal the whole time and dosent budge.. and i was using the 2.15 radio in my inc but had the same issue on the original 1.0 baseband
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While I can say I'm impressed with the Quadrant Scores, being that there are known flaws in the system that can be tweaked to yield higher Quadrant benchmarks means (as simple as changing a numerical value in the build.props, and I'm not accusing you of such just to be clear) that it can no longer be used as a reliable benchmarking system... especially if you are not using dead stock software that has been cooked, pulled or whatever.
It is also well known that "Bars" are not reliable indications of service reception. Holding my Droid X and Incredible right now as I type; the Droid X is showing full bars at -98dbm, while the Incredible is showing 2 bars -95dbm.
Just saying that's all

My incredible used to get anywere from 85 to 98dbm in my house, my X gets 72dbm, the X will always score higher on quadrant simply because its just plain got a better processor, however slight of an advantage it may be, its still something... but the major thing is the seperate GPU that throws it worlds ahead in graphics processing.. on quadrant in the first 3d demo where you are walking through the tunnel i get consistent 28 FPS.. even while turning the corner which is where it normally drops, it dosent drop on mine

I'm not saying the incredible is a bad device, as I used to own one.. However just an fyi my droid x scored a 1200 on quadrant right out of the box it was the first app I installed, and that was running 2.1
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Joe92T said:
I'm not saying the incredible is a bad device, as I used to own one.. However just an fyi my droid x scored a 1200 on quadrant right out of the box it was the first app I installed, and that was running 2.1
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And I'm not knocking the Droid X in anyway. Both phones are incredible (yeah yeah I know its a pun) devices. Both just fill different niches in the Android community.
Which I why I love and am obsessed with Android. No one-device-fits-all environment!
Eat **** Apple.

You may also want to consider the Samsung Fascinate that is getting ready to come out. Slick UI, Hummingbird processor is extremely fast, has a seperate GPU, and a beautiful screen. I also think 4" is the perfect screen size. just my $.02

Joe92T said:
Used to own an incredible, had s-off on it, SkyRaider and everything, then gave it to my girlfriend and got a Droid X, i wouldnt go back
Ive attached a benchmark of my rooted Droid X running Froyo, take a look below...
Also the bootloader thing has been bypassed... we have clockworkmod recovery now and can flash custom roms, also one thing that should be known about motorola is that they make one HELL of a radio for there devices... In my house my HTC Incredible used to fluctuate between 2 and 3 bars.. mostly on two... with my Droid X its been dead nuts 100% full signal the whole time and dosent budge.. and i was using the 2.15 radio in my inc but had the same issue on the original 1.0 baseband
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The bootloader is still keeping you from running a custom kernel, correct?
The X has a nice GPU (My friend has one), BUT, the screen compared to an Dinc's screen is like analog vs digital. The Dinc's screen is so much more vivid, colorful and detailed than the X's. I wouldn't trade for the X.

Samsungs fascinate looks great. But if i recall from the images..its a 3Giphone look a like..Only the captivate looks sleek in my opinion and there are some serious GPS issues plaguing the Galaxy S phones right now...and lets face it..samsung hasnt been the best of companies when it comes to keeping up with upgrades..sure 2.2 is probably insight, but will they support gingerbread? hmmm. HTC/Moto on verizon's network is a win either way. They have CDMA down.

Joe92T said:
Used to own an incredible, had s-off on it, SkyRaider and everything, then gave it to my girlfriend and got a Droid X, i wouldnt go back
Ive attached a benchmark of my rooted Droid X running Froyo, take a look below...
Also the bootloader thing has been bypassed... we have clockworkmod recovery now and can flash custom roms, also one thing that should be known about motorola is that they make one HELL of a radio for there devices... In my house my HTC Incredible used to fluctuate between 2 and 3 bars.. mostly on two... with my Droid X its been dead nuts 100% full signal the whole time and dosent budge.. and i was using the 2.15 radio in my inc but had the same issue on the original 1.0 baseband
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Yeah...I'm gonna have to call bs on that...sorry.

Joe92T said:
Used to own an incredible, had s-off on it, SkyRaider and everything, then gave it to my girlfriend and got a Droid X, i wouldnt go back
Ive attached a benchmark of my rooted Droid X running Froyo, take a look below...
Also the bootloader thing has been bypassed... we have clockworkmod recovery now and can flash custom roms, also one thing that should be known about motorola is that they make one HELL of a radio for there devices... In my house my HTC Incredible used to fluctuate between 2 and 3 bars.. mostly on two... with my Droid X its been dead nuts 100% full signal the whole time and dosent budge.. and i was using the 2.15 radio in my inc but had the same issue on the original 1.0 baseband
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Gonna call BS on that unless you uninstall Quadrant, make a video of you installing Quadrant from the market, running it, and getting that score.

Joe92T said:
I'm not saying the incredible is a bad device, as I used to own one.. However just an fyi my droid x scored a 1200 on quadrant right out of the box it was the first app I installed, and that was running 2.1
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Let me get this straight. So you're saying that the Droid X is a better phone because it scores higher on a benchmarking application? That is your only justification for switching?

I really appreciate all the feedback. But I think Im leaning incredible. I just cant help but like HTC's product....

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Droid x or HTC incredible

My sister is looking at a new phone. She wanted the iphone 4 but with the data plan change she is not sure if she wants to deal with it.
She was talking about switching companies with me, and as long as i can get my unlimited data plan then i'm switching to verizon.
She wants something good, doesn't know which phone though.
both have 1ghz processors and android.
Can't find ram specs on the droid x but i know it's 512mb on the htc.
Anyone have a good comparison and what do you guys thing. I just haven't been in the cell phone scene for almost a year. I am getting ready for a new phone in oct/nov so i am getting into it now.
If you're not doing it for a few months yet, then just wait for a better phone. The Samsung Galaxy S (instantly rootable, and fully open bootloader) is the best phone that is about to come out if you like to have root. The Droid X won't have root for 4+ months according to Birdman, and the bootloader may never be cracked. A real **** move by Motorola.
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I was all set on the moto Droid x, but now...
The Samsung Fascinate is looking really freaking good.
In the side by side reviews that i have seen, the samsung has the best screen that i have ever seen. Plus its rootable, plus it has a faster humming bird 1ghz processor, the same clock speed but in test it shows to be much faster overall.
sprintrjm said:
I was all set on the moto Droid x, but now...
The Samsung Fascinate is looking really freaking good.
In the side by side reviews that i have seen, the samsung has the best screen that i have ever seen. Plus its rootable, plus it has a faster humming bird 1ghz processor, the same clock speed but in test it shows to be much faster overall.
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I don't know about that? Where are these tests? I was under the impression they are very comparable in speed. I personally like Moto's build quality... even if I can't reflash it. The Fascinate looks like the case is plastic, which just isn't as good as a full metal case.
Between the Droid X and the Droid Incredible, I must say the Droid X, its a powerhouse...
This is for my sister. if it was me, the samsung coming out looks amazing but I am not getting android. Sorry.
She will never do anything for the bootloading or rootable options. She is not into the phone stuff like i am, and wouldn't be able to do it from her technical knowlege. And she is looking right now, can't wait at all, so samsung is out of the question at the moment.
Any other advice would be great. thanks to all that have posted already.
For a girl, the Droid Incredible or wait for the Samsung Fascinate.
Yep. See how she likes the Droid X in the hand first... just drive to a Verizon store and compare the two phones. There's also the problem of the Incredible's availability, but Sense wi definitely be more friendly than Ninjablur for the average user.
I have both and the droid x if far. Better. The incredible battery life sucks. I been using droid x for 11 hours and it still at 23% on the battery. That is with heavy use.
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I have the incredible, droid and the droid x. My opinion is the x even thou the incredible is rooted the x is a whole lot better then both of them combined.
Now with root it will happen with the X and it will be amazing
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This is for my sister. if it was me, the samsung coming out looks amazing but I am not getting android. Sorry.
She will never do anything for the bootloading or rootable options. She is not into the phone stuff like i am, and wouldn't be able to do it from her technical knowlege. And she is looking right now, can't wait at all, so samsung is out of the question at the moment.
Any other advice would be great. thanks to all that have posted already.
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If she needs one asap then go with the x. Htc incredible is on back order till august and i'm sure it will continue to get pushed back.
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Motorola chargers, I wish we could get a universal charging synching option from the industry. Why is it that the USB cord that works perfectly for every other device I have owned will charge and sync but not with Droid X. I just hate the length of the stock cord.
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Are u sure that u had a DI prior to this phone? When i went into adb yesterday to gain root on my X (thanks Birdman!), I used the usb cord that came with my DI. In fact, that DI cord is the only cord I've used to charge and transfer files with on my X.
I have found the X's battery to be a solid improvement over the DI; however, it is still rather easy to drain a full battery over the course of the day. I think it's important to remember that people tend to go through signifcantly higher amounts of data when they get a new toy to play with. Even then, I would say that the X's battery life is slightly better than the HTC 2150 mah extended battery that I bought for my DI.
One area that I've found that the X shines is graphics processing. For example, Need for Speed Shift on the X is by far the the most complete, satisfying gaming experience that I've had on a mobile phone (I dont know what Apple is going to do when even games are superior on the android platform).
While not everyone digs the size of the X, I absolutely adore the large screen. The keyboard on the X is the best I've used on a smartphone, and having the ability to switch to Swype is sweet. And for a movie buff like myself, it is sooo nice to be able to transfer movies from my laptop to my X without first having to convert them
Basically, I am really digging the X. However, the DI is a damn nice phone as well. I personally prefer Sense to Blur, and the DI is extremely polished. Being able to DL custom Roms is invaluable. And although it's completely Motorola's prerogative to design their phone as they wish, there's something about efuse and the encrypted bootloader that chaps my hide.
I had pretty much decided to return my X and go back to my DI, until Birdman gained root access to the x yesterday. Having wireless tether, Titanium, shell access, etc. are hugely important to me. However, i am still not sure if this is enough to compensate for the inability to flash ROMs. Damn, why does the X have to have that damn bootloader?
inc is better. ive played with the x numerous times, but i never wanted to switch. its just not the same. the dinc is one of a kind.
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inc is better. ive played with the x numerous times, but i never wanted to switch. its just not the same. the dinc is one of a kind.
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Eh, my Dad has the Dinc and I have the X..... we BOTH like the X better.
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Eh, my Dad has the Dinc and I have the X..... we BOTH like the X better.
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i guess it is all preference. in my opinion, the dinc is durable when it comes to modding. ive only tried the x for a couple of minutes, so i wouldnt know how the x is. i do have to say, the x is more of a multimedia and social networking phone, and the inc is more business like.
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I don't know about that? Where are these tests? I was under the impression they are very comparable in speed. I personally like Moto's build quality... even if I can't reflash it. The Fascinate looks like the case is plastic, which just isn't as good as a full metal case.
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actually, just for the record. the droid x doesn't have a full metal case.. just the battery door is metal.. much like the Samsung captivate on at&t. but as far as i know you are correct about the Samsung fascinate being "all" plastic. but to put in my two cents. switching from the Dinc to the DX. i am very unsatisfied with the DX slow and laggy UI and the screen looks good and big and clear.. but the colors suck and the contrast ratio is terrible. one of my biggest issues with screens, that of tv, phone, monitor, etc., is being able to see the back light shining through..of which my DX does. So i will be switching to the Galaxy S for that S-AMOLED. but thats just my opinion.
P.S. The Droid X is a really great phone. Just not for me.
The incredible over saturates the colors by over 30 percent. The Droid X is only off by like 6%.
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Vibrant OR Droid X????

I will have a droid x tomorrow as it was a replacement. In the mean time I bought a vibrant. I love the V but I also love the X!
I know this is V forum but I will also post this in the X forums to see if anyone there had to make a choice like mine!
If you had to choose, which one and why? WHY did you choose the V?
I assume that by being on XDA you'll want to play around with the phone and custom roms, the Droid X's locked bootloader will dampen the fun. Who knows when people will crack it, might be a month, might be a year.
Agreed with what tissimo said. In addition to that, Vibrant offers Super AMOLED Screen (colors are amazing), and 1GHz Hummingbird Processor. Which are pretty much the best specifications for an Android phone at the moment. Not to mention but its rumored that Verizon will be killing "unlimited data" in the future, so T-Mobile has the upper hand if Verizon goes on with that plan of going on capped data plans.
The screen of the Vibrant is perfect. I think 4.3'' is too big. It feels bad in my pocket. The screen of the X is very close to the edge of the phone (scares me). the semi-blur UI sucks compared to TouchWiz. Having the ability to change settings on the notification bar on the Vibrant rocks (and music controls).
But like everyone has, and will say.... Motorola pissed off the android world when they locked their bootloader like it was the holy grail. I would never buy a phone that I could not flash a custom ROM... and you saw how long it took them to get eclair on the droid, laughable. THANK GOD those with a droid could flash a custom rom (yeah Motorola, that helped you a lot, all of these wonderful developers doing your job).
Well I think the Vibrant is just about the perfect screen size. The Droid X just seems too big. Also, the Vibrant will almost assuredly have CM6 before the Droid X, if the X even gets it at all!
^ sadly, it will not.
after 5 failed cliqs i will never buy another motorola phone.. so no droid x for me.
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after 5 failed cliqs i will never buy another motorola phone.. so no droid x for me.
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Haha yeah I was never really impressed with any of Motorolas more fairly recent (last 3-5 years) build quality. RAZR anyone?
Motorola can suck it. I had the Cliq and had nothing but issues with it, not to mention it was so hard to hack. Motoblur is a horrid piece of software and burns through your battery. The vibrant is 100x better IMO.
Short answer, the Vibrant is the current heavyweight champion of the world. Nothing is better.
I went with Vibrant because I felt it was the best phone at the time, and because I hate Verizon. I love the Vibrant despite some initial bugs.
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I own a Vibrant and my co-worker just got a Droid X.
The screen alone on the V blows the X away, to top it off a unit with a 4" display just feels right, whereas 4.3" is overkill, the Droid X looks like a brick, but at the same token I am getting comments that my V is an iPhone rip-off.
As far as the performance is concerned, I felt the Vibrant was snappier especially with Launcher Pro instead of TouchWiz.
cons of X are: probably better support (maybe it will see Gingerbread), 2 noise canceling mics (although i dont know if they work good, Vibrant has 0), camera with dual flash.
Everything else goes to Vibrant......battery life (although i read X is also good), screen quality, size, speed, bluetooth 3.0 (whatever that does)...
X is already seeing updates with fixes, and will see 2.2 very soon........while 2.2 is also coming to Vibrant, nobody knows if its this month or maybe as late as November
I heard the camera is better on dx too. I think it comes down to what provider you can deal with. Verizon is pretty expensive.
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Droid X doesn't have an ARM processor (fail)
What you should really be asking yourself is incredible vs vibrant. Droid x is cute, but its hardware is lacking compared to either of these other phones. Not to mention Motorola phones have been difficult to mod even before the bootloader was locked.
I have to give it to Motorola that they made android way more popular in the USA than it used to be, but for anyone interested in custom ROMs or developing, they just don't compare.
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djunio said:
Short answer, the Vibrant is the current heavyweight champion of the world. Nothing is better.
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Vibrant is the heavyweight champ and literally weighs like nothing in your hand! All around such a great device!
I went into verizon the other day and played with the droid x for sum time and i have to say i didnt like it all that much. I have the vibrant and its perfect it gets a lil laggy sumtimes but what fones dont and if u root it and get setcpu runnin on it, it will be flawless trust me. and the Vibrant is Super AMOLED scratch resistant screen meanin u dont got to buy a screen protector
I'm down with both phones but once you play with the Vibrant's Amoled screen for a couple days it's difficult going back to LCD screens. It's that good.
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I heard the camera is better on dx too. I think it comes down to what provider you can deal with. Verizon is pretty expensive.
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Its about the same quality. More mps doesnt make it better. Vibrant has ton of in camera features, dont know about X
EDIT. iPhone, Sony, and Nokia cameras are the best on the market, the rest all have glitches here and there and all about the same quality....Vibrant camera is not sharp enough, maybe its a software glitch with auto focus or something...X camera pictures I believe come out noisy due to 8MP, Nexus One pictures lack color....

Moving to the X, and not sure how I feel about it

Im moving over to the Droid X, simply because im a "need the latest greatest" type of guy, but I really love my Incredible! So if Im not happy, i hope one of you will trade me back an incredible!
You'll be back.
I'm kinda in the same boat. I have the opportunity to upgrade to either a fascinate or a droid x (saying ill give my bro my incredible and $50 so I can snatch his upgrade) but I'm not 100% sure I want to do it. Sure id like a better screen but as it stands every phone on verizon has a quirk, so I feel that no matter what I choose I will never truly be happy. For example:
Incredible: lowsy battery life unless you fatten it up a little, creaky/squeaky backplate, relatively weak graphics
Droid X: terrible menu buttons, strange hump design for the camera, could be annoying to hold at times
Fascinate: GPS barely works
So in short every phone has flaws that will make you keep going "I wonder what life would be like if I went with phone x..." People like us are truly doomed
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Incredible: creaky/squeaky backplate, relatively weak graphics
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Wait wat????
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Wait wat????
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From the two backplates I've used, they both exhibit a squeaky/creaky noise when held from time to time... doesnt give the strongest build quality feel. I know I'm not the only one who has experienced this.
As for the graphics issue you'll notice my use of the word relative. I'm not implying the incredible is weak, but when compared to the droid x or the fascinate it certainly is. It is still stronger than the iphone 3gs, and that's capable of running that epic citadel tech demo so ill leave it at that.
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You might be moving to the latest , but not the greatest .
I know the squeaky feel you're talking about, I forgot about it once I got a case. As far as the X, I would enjoy having a bigger screen but am not a fan of Moto phones, especially the crap Motoblur the X is running.. If I were you, I would save your upgrade for an LTE phone or something better, as the Droid X is by no stretch of the imagination the latest and greatest. rofl.
Agreed
I am not completely happy with the incredible but there are many htc phones in the works with world capabilities as well as the moto pro, that's without mentioning windows phone is dropping sometime in the next 4 months to verizon, in november to AT&T. I really don't care for anything else on the x besides the screen real estate. I have two lines available for upgrades, however, I don't see the point in upgrading right now because I love the rca outs for the incredible. I have my fiance drive me around everywhere in my titan so I can watch hulu from my dinc. Plus this is the only device I've ever owned that just works every time I call upon it. The moto droid was a big step but sometimes it would cut out in the middle of navigation, or skip when playing songs. My incredible works no matter how much I torture it I even had to scoop it from the sand with my feet underwater, I took the battery out, let it dry and it has been working for 3 months since without any issues. I am just a new tech junkie I suppose as long as their isnt a gay colored half eaten apple on it.
I agree. At this time, there simply isn't anything better out there.
... my $.02
Wait till November, the X was not a good phone IMO
There are some new phones coming to VZW in November. There is an EVO like phone coming to VZW, and it will probably be more beast then EVO.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/08/27/evolike-android-device-breaks-cover-possibly-headed-verizon/
There is also this one, 4" HTC slider with nice keyboard.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/04/htcs-dual-mode-cdma-gsm-android-slider-hits-the-fcc-decked-out/
There was also rumor of the HTC Scorpion 1.5GHZ processor and Froyo coming to VZW.
Im sure ill be back, I really love the inc......I have a 30day grace period, so ill weight it all out

Droid X or Fascinate?

I'm hoping to get some help in making this decision by asking the expert community here at xda. I have a Fascinate now & while it's been fine in most aspects it seems to have connectivity issues with the stock email app. I live & work in a rural area & need this to work reliably. I'm coming from a Droid Eris that had no problem in this area. My 30 days isn't up yet so I can switch to something else if that will solve my problem. All Big Red has done so far is push new prls to the phone. Is the X better with 3g reception?
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IMO the Motorola Droid X has the best antenna ever created under Big Red, has one of the best 3G reception, little to no drop calls with my DX, compared to the other android devices out there.
I'm glad you've had that experience with it so far, but can I ask what kind of area are you in? Is it metro or rural or a mix of both? How's email perform?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I live in a small town (2500) and I am 60 miles away from a large town. I have always had issues with my reception from verizon with my last 2 smart phones. Had the Imagio and dropped calls all day long. Now I have the DX and drop calls all day long.
My wife has a palm pre and never drops calls. Not that I would suggest a pre. I am just saying- unless you can talk to another X user in your area - the answers here aren't going to be a great help.
I haven't had any problems receiving emails though. But the 3G signal on the X where I live is very sporadic. I have a strong signal, I have a weak signal, I have no signal, back to strong, all within 5 minutes seated at the same desk.
And you can forget wifi tether on the X (at least my experience and many others I have read). USB tether works fine- but wifi tether is a lost cause. Constant disconnections.
I will also add this- if you want to do modifications to your phone or any sort of customizations- stick with the fascinate. Motorola has locked the boot loader on the X. We have root. But it doesn't look good for "TRULY" custom roms.
Just my input.
Are there any ex-Fascinate owners that have gone to the X? Anyone with an X in Northern Michigan?
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garywojdan81 said:
I'm glad you've had that experience with it so far, but can I ask what kind of area are you in? Is it metro or rural or a mix of both? How's email perform?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I live in a metro area and sometimes travel to the rural areas, but mainly metro area. Emails are good, except i hate the push option on the DX native email client TBH, sometimes it doesn't always work properly. Thats my only issue. If your in a rural area and your option is the DX or Fascinate, the better option is the DX, it has a better antenna design which the Fascinate lacks in signal strength.
I carry a DX while my wife carries a fascinate, and from what I can tell you about the two phones is this...
first off we both first had the Drois Eris...
I recieved my DX @ launch... and my wife recieved her Fascinate @ launch... so we've had some time to mess with these devices
The fascinate is a beautiful phone, the screen is amazing and it extremely snappy. The signal is equal to the DX in Surprise, AZ and the 3g speed is just about the same... as for the "GPS Issues" with the Fascinate, I have yet to see any problems with the gps on the phone.... I'd say that the phones are very equal in speed and signal... I'd reccomend the fascinate to anyone looking for a new android handset on vzw.
I love my X.. there's no way I would go to the fascinate... but this is my opinion... I'd suggest playin with both first before taking my opinion to heart
The DX feels like it was made to last... I pick up the fascinate and I wonder if i hold it to tight will it snap in half... I'm also not a fan of the Super-amoled screen, yes the colors are better, the contast is amazing, and generaly is just plan 'ol better than TFT... but no thx, I like the DX screen... I hate the fact on the amoled that I can make out each individual led... it drives me crazy.... and the weight of the fascinate isnt impressive... Yea it's light... but i want to feel like I have something when I pick it up... I want a little weight to it...
So here's my opinion
if you don't have a DX yet... get a fascinate
if you have a DX allready.. stick with the DX...
if you came from the Eris... get the Facinate ( better for people used to Sence UI )
if you came from the Droid... get the X ( or the D2 )
that's my $0.02
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I will also add this- if you want to do modifications to your phone or any sort of customizations- stick with the fascinate. Motorola has locked the boot loader on the X. We have root. But it doesn't look good for "TRULY" custom roms.
Just my input.
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I thought there were already a couple custom ROMs out there?
I know the bootloader is locked (still) but I have confidence it will get hacked eventually. It is my understanding that the ROMs that are there are pretty well customized.
My problem with the Fascinate is the lockdown that was put on it by Verizon. I can't wait until it's rooted and someone releases a ROM so I can de-crapify it.
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I thought there were already a couple custom ROMs out there?
I know the bootloader is locked (still) but I have confidence it will get hacked eventually. It is my understanding that the ROMs that are there are pretty well customized.
My problem with the Fascinate is the lockdown that was put on it by Verizon. I can't wait until it's rooted and someone releases a ROM so I can de-crapify it.
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no custom roms yet, just deodex themes, not the same thing...
still being worked on, yes...
fascinate is already rooted... roms in the making...
Just to clarify, I've got the Fascinate now & am just trying to find out if moving to the X would be any better for me performance-wise right now. I have no doubt that the devs and modders here at xda will do everything possible to get both phones to their full potential. Thanks for all the input, btw.
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no custom roms yet, just deodex themes, not the same thing...
still being worked on, yes...
fascinate is already rooted... roms in the making...
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Wrong...there are custom roms, just not custom kernels. Tranquility, FlyX, and rubiX are not deodex themes...
The DX will provide you with better signal where reception is typically poor. If that is your main priority, then the DX is for you.
At this point, the bootloader being cracked is bordering a lost cause. If you're fine with debloating your phone of crap, using themes, and maybe a ROM or two during your time with the phone.. the DX is fine. If you really want to do things like overclock the phone or the like, the Fascinate will be your best choice.
Anything beyond those 2 aspects are merely subjective opinion between any 2 people you pick to ask.
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The DX will provide you with better signal where reception is typically poor. If that is your main priority, then the DX is for you.
At this point, the bootloader being cracked is bordering a lost cause. If you're fine with debloating your phone of crap, using themes, and maybe a ROM or two during your time with the phone.. the DX is fine. If you really want to do things like overclock the phone or the like, the Fascinate will be your best choice.
Anything beyond those 2 aspects are merely subjective opinion between any 2 people you pick to ask.
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Well put. I agree with this man right here. This should be how you decide.
garywojdan81 said:
Just to clarify, I've got the Fascinate now & am just trying to find out if moving to the X would be any better for me performance-wise right now. I have no doubt that the devs and modders here at xda will do everything possible to get both phones to their full potential. Thanks for all the input, btw.
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well if u have the fascinate now, apply lag-fix and enjoy ur device.
TBH, the fascinate has better specs then the DX does, its just the carrier downsized both devices for consumer's.
1Ghz Hummingbird processor, 512MB ram, 512KB L2 cache, dedicated GPU (PowerVP SGX 540), SAMOLED display.
I can say after playing around with the fascinate a little more that the camera on the samsung is alot better than the one on the X
I have the Incredible, my wife has the X...and I just got done setting up a Fascinate on my account for my mother. I LOVE my Incredible. That said, if I could have convinced my mom that she wanted my Incredible more, I'd have kept the Fascinate. Holy crap, that phone is gorgeous. Slim, AMAZING screen...
I'm not a fan of TouchWiz, but it was SUPER easy to root. Using titanium, I "froze" the bloatware so it won't load/run/appear in the app tray. It can be "unfrozen" in order to un-root and upgrade to 2.2. It's far snappier than both my Incredible and my wife's stock 2.2 X. The screen can't be touched.
The ONE complaint: WiFi signal strength seems to be weak. Also, 3g signal appeared lower than my Incredible in the same location, however, speed tests were almost identical every time.
google project voodoo it wont say its out for the Fascinate officially until version 5
check the post out under Samsung Fascinate---> Development---->[RELEASE] Voodoo (v0.2) ext4 lagfix for Fascinate!
Im sorry I tried to post links but it wont let me yet
I have a Fascinate my wife has the Droid X. I held off on the Droid X to check the Fascinate out. I use both phones Daily and I can honestly say I didnt think the Fascinate would compare oooh i was so wrong. performance wise if its better and after you visit the links I posted alot better. Someone said that the Fascinate feels frail feels sturdy to me just thin I have this gel case for it that makes it feal very sturdy like the X I havnt had a dropped call on the Fascinate or Droid X (unless I talk to family that have tmobile lol). take it from someone who was had bias at first and looked down on the Fascinate untill I got to try it out Keep the Fascinate. My 30 days arrent up but I definately wont go back for the DX. I almost forgot the Fascinate doesnt have a locked bootloader anything can happen but I highly doubt that it will be cracked.
droid x all the waay, but the Incredible is a good choice to just throwing that out there
I switched to a droid x from a fascinate. Gave the fascinate to my wife.
Fascinate screen is way more vibrant. Deeper blacks, brighter colors. The droid x screen is bright, but the colors don't pop out like the fascinate, and the black levels are nowhere near as deep.
I like the larger feel and the rubberized accents of the droid x, the fascinate was too small and slippery feeling.
The droid x camera doesn't do low light pictures as well as the fascinate in my opinion. The fascinate seemed to take pretty decent indoor pictures, most of the ones I've taken with the X are slighty blurry.
The X seems more polished to me. I had significantly more hangs and freezes with the fascinate. I don't think I've had a single hang or freeze with the X to date. Maybe that will get better on the fascinate with time and Froyo updates.
I felt like I could swype better on the X than the fascinate. Maybe the slight screen size difference helps out in typing.
I think the call quality on the X is better than the fascinate as well.
I think the fascinate has the potential to be an excellent phone with some updates, but the X is an excellent phone today.
The only thing that has me really "worried" about the X is the lack of true custom roms and if/when they will ever be available.
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Droid X Pros:Gorilla Glass, Default App is Google, Google Maps instead of VZ Navigator, HDMI Port, Original Android Feeling with a little of blurr, built good so it don't feel cheap, Larger screen, Physical Camera button
Droid X Cons:Large, no Super AMOLED ( so not as vibrant as samsung), Lagged a few times on me on the lock screen.
Samsung Pros: Super AMOLED Screen, Large screen but very accessible, have not seen too much lag
Samsung Cons:No physical camera button, Samsung's UI (personally do not like it), Made of flexible Plastic and you don't feel like you have anything in your hand
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I got the Samsung Fascinate when it was buy one get one free. Brother picked up one and I picked up one.
I dislike samsungs UI compared to the original android on HTC's like the G1, as I got that when it came out a while back. This would be his first Android phone so I knew he wouldn't really know the difference so he would be fine. But I saw the droid x in the store and it was in back order I just picked up the Samsung but not even more than a week I traded somebody for a droid x brand new in the box and I am happy to say I am loving the droid x.
Also Droid X has Gorilla Glass so it isn't as vulnerable as the Samsung
I use the HDMI port a lot so thats a big factor. & also take a lot of pictures and the camera is a little bit better on the X.
BIGGEST PRO: You can use Google Maps as the default app on the car dock where-as the Fascinate you have to use VZ Navigator. And Bing isn't set to the default search engine. ( I have heard the 2.2 update will fix this but I am impatient lol )

Help me decide between a Fascinate, Droid X or D2

I'm very torn on this decision. I am an OG Droid user and have loved it since day 1 but it's time to move on. I use the hardware keyboard quite a bit so switching to a touchscreen only phone is kind of scary, that's the only reason the D2 is even in play here. I know the D2 and DX have locked bootloaders though, which can somewhat limit hacking them, or at least they did the last time I checked several months back. I love hacking my phone, although I know hacking the Galaxy s phones is much harder than hacking my Droid from experience, as my girlfriend has a Vibrant.
I love her phone, it's super slick and super nice which is why I'm leaning towards the Fascinate. Can any former DX or D2 users chime in and tell me what they like better about the Fascinate? I'm concerned that since the Fascinate came out after the rest of the Galaxy S phones that its hacking userbase is smaller (its development section has signifcantly fewer posts than the others). Is Cyanogen available on the Fascinate yet? I noticed sombionix has a Fascinate and is working on development for it, which is great because I put his rom on my girlfriend's phone.
Anyway I'm on the fence and would like help one way or the other. Please post any feedback you have on any of the 3 phones I listed, and why I should pick the Fascinate over the other 2. I'm also considering waiting until the next gen phones come out, I know dual core phones are right around the corner, though I do have 2 upgrades available to me so I guess I don't technically have to wait.
The Fascinate userbase is smaller than the other GalaxyS phones, but we have tons of devs that are working actively on bringing this phone to its prime. We do have Cyangenmod, although it is a broken port at the moment. The only thing that is restricting us is the lack of avaliability of the Froyo source from Samsung.
I have used the Droid and the Droid X. Not particularly the Droid 2 though. The soft keyboard on the Fascinate and the Droid X is a less accurate and easier to mistype than a physical keyboard, obviously, but the many keyboards avaliable such as the Gingerbread keyboard, Swiftkey, and Swype will make sort keyboarding much easier and maybe even more enjoyable than on a physical one.
In terms of speed, the Droids trump the Fascinate in CPU related tasks. In games, the Fascinate dominates. In media, the Fascinate's extra avaliable codecs are extremely helpful, as I can play avi and move files no problem on the stock video player. The screen is also noticeably more beautiful on the Fascinate, although the Droid X is more than adequate. The extra screen estate on the Droid X is great however. GPS and Signal: Droid X is much better. The Fascinate GPS works, but not as well as even the OG Droid. Signal fluctuates on the Fascinate somewhat.
The Droid X, because of its bootloader, can't flash kernels and can't flash Cyangenmod roms and such. But the roms for it are still great, as well as the themes.
I can say that you can't go wrong with either devices, but if you can, just wait for a dual-core phone to come out. If not, pick from what I've said about each device.
Rockin' DJ05, Liberty Gingerbread, Clocked at 1.2ghz Voodoo
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I recently went from a D1 to a Fascinate. I considered the DX, but did not like the physical buttons (the reason I moved off the D1 was that my power button broke, and it seemed like more points of failure). I got the D1 the day it launched, first rooted it in February of 2010, and started installing custom ROMs shortly thereafter. I eventually landed on CM, and really like it. I miss CM7, but am excited by the level of work that seems to be going on right now on the Fascinate (I just loaded SFC 2.6 yesterday).
I rooted my Fascinate the night I got it. It took me about three hours (I missed a step the first time), and it is definitely more work than the D1, but once you get the hang of it (and especially once you get Red CW going) it is pretty familiar.
I personally did not consider the D2 because I found I rarely used the physical keyboard. I had been using Swype for the last couple of months on the D1 and was pretty happy with it.
I'm really happy with the screen size ... my D1 feels like a toy now it is so small in comparison.
Good luck!
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GPS and Signal: Droid X is much better. The Fascinate GPS works, but not as well as even the OG Droid. Signal fluctuates on the Fascinate somewhat.
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Since DL30 happened the GPS on my Fascinate has worked flawlessly. Instant lock every single time. A few seconds tops if I'm outside. It also regularly links right up inside my house, and from the bottom floor of my girlfriend's 2 story house! It's come a long way. It's amazing how quickly Fascinate development is flying along right now.
I wouldn't even think of a Droid. I love my fascinates feel in my hand, its light and the Devs here kick ass! I am running sc2.6 with the matted blues theme!
The fascinate rocks and not because of Samsung or verizon, but everyone here at XDA!
I just traded my D2 for a fascinate 4 or 5 days ago. It comes down to personal preference. The fascinate is a better device as far as screen size and quality, but the D2 is superior in every other way. Its nice to have the physical keyboard when your in a hurry and don't want a bunch of typos. The development is alot further too on the D2. The fascinate doesn't even officially have froyo yet. Liberty rom gives you an aosp experience, plus you get the liberty toolbox by jrummy there is 12 themes in the latest version of the toolbox that you can flash with the touch of a button.
So like I said, personal preference. I don't hate my fascinate, but I like option to be able to use the keyboard. If your gonna spend money you should wait for the thunderbolt our bionic
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At this point, I'd find it hard to justify upgrading now even to a currently-top-tier device like the Fascinate or Droid X (particularly if you do 2-year contracts) when so many substantially better new devices are literally right around the corner.
But if you really do want to upgrade now, the best way to look at it is this: the Droid X/Droid 2 are superior phones, while the Fascinate is a superior media device. Which one is "better" totally depends on your own personal needs.
I have an X and a Fascinate and the X is collecting dust. The Fascinate is just a better fit for my hands and is much lighter and fits in my pocket much better. The X boot loader is a BIG problem if you plan on hacking and Moto is constantly making updates that change the keys so any leaked sbf files are rendered useless. (sbf files are used to recovery moto phones) Moto seems to go out of their way to f with the mod community and for this reason I personally have sworn off moto products until they change their ways.
If you decide you want an X I have one for sale already rooted and running the lasted apex ROM. I can return it to stock though if you want.
I personally love my fascinate but I can't recommend it because of lack of updates, specifically to froyo. Even though I like the phone I can't continue to support the company.
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I personally love my fascinate but I can't recommend it because of lack of updates, specifically to froyo. Even though I like the phone I can't continue to support the company.
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Ahhh... eb01 is just as good as an official update, and the fascinate hardware is top shelf. I was in the verizon store the other day, yeah some other phones had froyo but they were cheap looking and feeling. The droid x is ok, but still not as slick as the fascinate. Actually, the iphone is the next best as far as hardware, but i didnt say that
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Falcyn has it right, get the droid if you make lots of voice calls, the fascinate if you game/browse/plau video.
My wife has the D2 because long fingernails and capacitative screens don't mix well, but the device is solid. Reception and voice quality are better on the D2, but its much heavier and unless you're in direct sun, the screen doesn't compare to the fascinate. The wife borrows my phone at night to game on, and swype bridges the gap from the physical keyboard nicely.
Samsung blows as far as support goes, but the devs here are johnny on the spot with leaks, fixes, and roms. If I had to get a new phone today, I would go fascinate again based on gfx hardware, screen beauty, hackability, and audio playback quality. Also, if you put your phone in a pants pocket, fascinate if the way to go due to weight and form factor If I wasn't under the gun for time or lived in a 4g coverage zone, I would gladly wait on the next iteration of handsets.
theraptscallion said:
Falcyn has it right, get the droid if you make lots of voice calls, the fascinate if you game/browse/plau video.
My wife has the D2 because long fingernails and capacitative screens don't mix well, but the device is solid. Reception and voice quality are better on the D2, but its much heavier and unless you're in direct sun, the screen doesn't compare to the fascinate. The wife borrows my phone at night to game on, and swype bridges the gap from the physical keyboard nicely.
Samsung blows as far as support goes, but the devs here are johnny on the spot with leaks, fixes, and roms. If I had to get a new phone today, I would go fascinate again based on gfx hardware, screen beauty, hackability, and audio playback quality. Also, if you put your phone in a pants pocket, fascinate if the way to go due to weight and form factor If I wasn't under the gun for time or lived in a 4g coverage zone, I would gladly wait on the next iteration of handsets.
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You say this phone had good audio quality. Is this in comparison to other droids? .. This is my first android, I came from a blackberry storm 2.. And I was very disappointed in the headphone output. The blackberry had far more bass and clarity at low volumes. the fascinate seems to clip bass notes at high volume too.. So it seems as if the audio is under powered.. Any comments?
Rocking dj05, themed superdark w/o swype mod, voodoo 5, with custom boot and shutdown..
I went to Verizon with my friend Friday since he wanted a phone and I wanted to go look at the Xoom. He ended up picking the Droid 2(Global, of course.) I noticed that calls sounded much nicer, the external speaker was louder, and it had better reception.
It also had issues. It lagged in CPU-intensive tasks, whereas my Fascinate performed considerably better. It just didn't perform as well in general use, and especially not in gaming. The odd thing is that it scored higher and outperformed the Fascinate in benchmarks. But load screens took longer, and it just wasn't as snappy. The touchscreen isn't as accurate, and Swype is harder to use because of it. And the screen looks awful in comparison. I couldn't go back to an LCD screen on a phone. And the locked bootloader sucks. I'm not sure about the DX, but I'm sure it has similar issues.
While the Droid 2 and Droid X are great phones, but I would go with the Fascinate. It has a better screen, better CPU and GPU, and I find it nicer in general. The keyboard is nice on the D2, the DXs screen is bigger and nice, the GPS, call quality, and reception are better, but overall, I find the Fascinate better than either.

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