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Making the default input method actually work? (614c)

Hey,
Another HP iPQS 614c question - I've set the default input method to T9. However, what I'm seeing is that this only applies to certain text boxes. It generally works okay for SMSs, but, it doesn't work when entering information into Internet Explorer.
Is this the behaviour other people see?
Does anyone know how to make the default actually be the default for all entry places?
Si

IN THIS APP YOU CAN ALSO SET INPUT METHOD (QMENU/SIP)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395106

yes, all this does is change the system setting. nothing more.
the problem is that the system setting, the "default", well its only a default for certain types of input box.
try setting it to T9, then load internet explorer and click in the address bar. you won't be on T9.

I got this tool to default SIP even after restart.
I already forget where I find this tool.
Hope help for you.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402660

default keyboard

any one know how to change the default keyboard on an alltel touch(vogue)?

SIP Change

wow abe you really get around. I appreciate all your help. I dont understand what a sip is though. i installed the resco keyboard and there was an option to set it as default, now i want the 2manyphones pcm keyboard to be my default but I cant figure out how to change it. And I cant uninstall it cause it always says its in use. once again I need the kings knowledge! thx man

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008
did you try switching to a different keyboard before uninstalling?

ya it still says theres a sharing issue and it cant be uninstalled

Make sure under all settings for each keyboard, that it's not set as default, if it has that option. Then open SIP change and set it to whatever one you want as default, with about a 15 second delay time, and after a soft reset, you should be fine.
SIP = Soft Input Panel or Secondary Input Panel

Auto word suggestion

My elfin auto suggest words when using keyboard on a black horzontal line above the keyboard. How can I switch to the original WM vertical list method? Is there a reg key to change?
Thanks!

I think thats build into your SIP.
Which means you cant change it, you can try googling it though.

I'd really like to get rid of that black bar as well.
Is there some way you can change the SIP?

A solution
Ok I found out how to do it and it just requires a couple of small registry changes.
Change the following entries under registry key: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts
Ime File: compime.dll (compime.dll was in my Windows directory so I didn't need to copy it)
Layout Text: COMP IME
Soft reset and the old autocomplete that we all know and love is back, e.g. a small box with all the suggestions.

jeremy89632 said:
I think thats build into your SIP.
Which means you cant change it, you can try googling it though.
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May not be as the keyboard is the standard WM keyboard, not the HTC one. Additionally, for some time, I managed to make the black bar go away and revert to the drop down list. But recently, I did a deep registry celarning using memmaid and somehow something was changed and it caused the blacj bar to appear again...
Wondering where in the Registry should I look for this....

Galadai said:
Ok I found out how to do it and it just requires a couple of small registry changes.
Change the following entries under registry key: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts
Ime File: compime.dll (compime.dll was in my Windows directory so I didn't need to copy it)
Layout Text: COMP IME
Soft reset and the old autocomplete that we all know and love is back, e.g. a small box with all the suggestions.
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I see entries under the Layouts: (Which one to change for normal Windows Mobile Keyboard?)
00000409
Layout File kbdNopAll.dll
Layout Text US
PS2_AT kbdNopAll.dll
e0010409
Ime File \windows\eT9ime.dll
Keyboard Layout 00000409
Layout Text eT9 IME
e0010804
Ime File xime.dll
Keyboard Layout 00000409
Layout Text Mobem IME
Which one should I change? Or do I creat a new entry? Thanks for your help!
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Found put that I should change e0010409 from eT9ime.dll to compime. Problem is that I can;t find this file on my elf.... continuing to look

Turn off XT9 permanently and stop it from interfering with Swype?

I've installed Swype and really like it. I'm using SIPchange to enable it as a default. Unfortunately, XT9 will interfere with the words selected by Swype even after you've picked the right word. The only way to disable this is to manually change to Touch Input keyboard and disable XT9 on the keyboard before changing back to Swype.
I've already disabled both Spell Correction and Word Completion in Touch Input under Settings> Personal> Input> Touch Input> Options, but XT9 still turns on the next time I restart the phone.

Hi, I'm using swype too and haven't noticed any interference from XT9, but I might not have known what I'm looking for.
What are your symptoms?

I have had that happen to me before on certain Roms... cant tell you which one... usually, it works fine (I am using Topix Rom now)
When it did happen, I turned off XT9 under the settings but I ALSO opened the default keyboard and turned it off there but pressing the key.... moved back to swype after that and the xt9 word options were gone... just the usual swype dictionary/options at times.... Soft reset didn't change anything... it was all ok still
Hope this helps

Unfortunately for me, once I shutdown/soft reset the phone, XT9 is automatically activated on the Touch Input keyboard again even though everything has already been turned off in the Settings>Personal>Input. Also, it seems that the Touch Input keyboard automatically defaults to one of the Chinese input methods instead of English. Maybe that's where the problem lies. Where can I default the Touch Input keyboard to English?
BTW, I have my Locale set as Australia, so that isn't the problem.
The symptoms are: Once you've "Swyped" the word and pick the one you want, XT9 then shows up with it's word choices and either shows the same word or if I have it initial caps, make it all small letters
I also noticed that in Settings>Personal>Input, when I select Swype then click the "OK" button, it doesn't save the selection, and goes back to "Touch Input" when I open the "Input" dialogue again. I guess this probably means that some of my registry entries are toast...

That is indeed weird... do you have something like SIP change installed? I use that to start Swype by default during startup after a restart.. Don't know if that might help...

Yes, I do have SIPchange installed, but it's already set to Swype as the default.

I had the same problem and this is my partial solution.
Go to HKLM/Softwares/Tegic/eT9/IsSupportMSSIPContact
Change the Dword from 1 to 0.
this will get rid of XT9 for Swype but only if it is NOT the default. Therefore, there is the nagging inconvenience of having to change it to Swype every time your soft reset. But it is better than that nothing.

Thanks for the partial solution. It's at least better than what I'm doing now after every reboot, which is to:
1. change Swype to Touch Input
2. change Touch Input to EN so that the keyboard shows up
3. click on the XT9/ABC button
4. change Touch Input back to Swype..
One thing to note, I just went to the registry and there isn't the value you listed. However, there is the following string value:
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\LRU_MS_InputMethod and the value is Swype.
I'm wondering if this is what is causing XT9 to activate when Swype is active.. Do you have this value in your registry? what value is it?
Quick edit to note that I added a DWORD IsSupportMSSIPContact with value "0" and soft reset... Sorry to say that it didn't disable XT9 even if Touch Input was defaulted. Guess my problem is slightly different than yours.

Yes, all those values are the same. Need ot check if you also disable xt9 using some .cab. If not then you will need to do the following:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Ime File
Change it to read as compime.dll
and
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Layout Text
Change to COMP IME
This will disable eT9. Please remember the original values should you want to revert back.
I think that should work.
have fun.

weenween, the two registry values you gave are already what is on my phone..
But XT9 still enables itself when I restart the phone. I've now resigned myself to disabling XT9 on the Touch Input keyboard manually each time I restart the phone.
In any case, thanks for your help.

I have exactly the same problem adn symptoms as GregWee. Must be becasue we both have Hong Kong HD2s where the default english keyboard is PinYin?

I have a similar issue. I have a TMOUS HD2 with QQ 2010 mobile loaded on it for chinese text entry. The QQ keypad has become the default everytime I reboot - entirely unwanted. Somehow it interferes with the contact dropdown list in messaging and email. It has something to do with the T9 staying on when entering a contact name. I installed sipchange but it does not overide the QQ default after a soft reset.
After changing between keyboards a few time it begins to work properly in email and then finally in messages. Right now, since the last soft reboot and playing around, when I am in either email or messages the stock keyboard will automatically switch from T9 to abc when I move the cursor to enter a contact name. The contacts appear as I type as they should. Swype works fine too. I have no idea what I did to get it to work but I have had the same experience several times today. Hopefully I will figure it out.
I would like to know a way to override the QQ as the default keyboard. I think this might fix the problem.
Any suggestions?

How to prevent applications from changing SIP?

Till now I've been using the HD2's standard HTC keyboard as SIP, as I haven't found anything I was really satisfied with.
Until yesterday I installed Resco Keyboard Pro 6 Beta, which is just fantastic (read about it elsewhere in the forum). Perfect for HD2.
But now, I've discovered that a number of my apps changes the SIP back to standard HTC when I open them. Resco's option to make its keyboard the default SIP does work. After soft-reset, it's still the default SIP in most programs.
So I tried installing Fingerkeyboard, SPB Keyboard, etc, just to make sure it wasn't Resco's fault (as it's a beta version anyway...). The same happened with all the other 3rd party keyboards.
Is there anyway to prevent apps from changing the SIP? It's driving me crazy, have to manually switch back to Resco everytime I open those stupid apps (which I depend on at work ) Thank you in advance.

Use XDA google search and look for a programme/cab file called sipchange.
Install it then select the keyboard type you want as your default; problem solved.
WB

Not that simple, I'm afraid. My problem is not how to set Resco as the default keyboard after SR. Get that already with Resco's own inbuilt option. Then I tried using both SIPChange and default_IM_WM5.cab. It still happens, some of my apps changes the keyboard back to standard when executed (and it is not about setting the delay in SIPChange, I'm talking about after all the processes during SR).

That's strange. Never had this problem with Sipchange installed.
You are certain that you have set your preferred default keyboard via the sipchange utility? That's how you get the keyboard you want to boot up after a SR.
If yes then not sure what else to suggest.
WB

Hi, I am having the same problem. One example of such software is Lingvosoft, when you hit search key, the keyboard pop opens, but with default keyboard, even after using sipchange.

I was thinking maybe there's a way to disable the standard HTC keyboards all together through the reg. But that's asking for trouble/hard-reset
What to do...

I think the problem is that using SIPChange, DefaultIM.cab, nueSIPdefault, etc, none of these really changes the value of "defaultim" at controlpanel\sip. It remains with the standard keyboard's CLSID.
I'm really tempted to change this value to Resco's, but reading around here in this forum shows a lot of people having big trouble afterwards messing with this value (mainly because they used the wrong CLSID?) and required a hard-reset...