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So the FPS cap sucks, and the lag is frustrating, but I’m confident that these will be resolved as some point and I still love my launch day 002 EVO. Never had any of the physical issues that most other people had, with no screen separation or light leaks, and the last update seemed to fix the grounding issue (which was very rare and minor on my phone). The screen and size are just right for me. I’ve been waiting for this phone ever since I heard that HTC was working on a monster snapdragon phone at the end of last year. But I’ll still be trading it in for the Epic 4G. Why? DLNA.
I’ve been using an AT&T Tilt since it launched some 4 years ago (which is what I've been using until I got the EVO). It was great at the time, and has served me very well, what with loading custom ROMs and all. Even got Android working on it for a while (which was fun, but not very practical). One of the things I was able to do on the Tilt was the ability to map my shared home network media folders (which I use to stream media to my xbox360s) as a drive on the phone so that when I was connected to my home network over wifi on the phone, I could use coreplayer to stream all of my AVI files from my home network to my phone and watch them with virtually no stutter anywhere in the house.
I’ve yet to see any apps for android that will let me do that. Either you’re able to access the home networked files (with something like andromote), but it doesn’t play AVI files, or a decent AVI player is found (lovin’ Rockplayer), but will only play local files.
With the Epic 4G (and all of the Galaxy S variants, I think), not only can this be done, but it’s super simple through their Allshare app. And it plays AVI video files natively.
People say that you shouldn't choose a new phone based on possible future capabilities for your model of phone, that you're not even sure it will be getting - either through a hack, root, or an official update. The Epic is here, now (or will be soon), with my own personal killer app. So there you go. Why I’ll be switching to the Epic 4G on launch day.
It’s sort of win/win though – I’ll be giving the wife the EVO, and getting the Epic 4G for myself, so it will still stay in the family ;-)
oook !
i have no lag i dont play games on my phone so the 30fps thing is null for me
but enjoy
gmote seems to be in the process of adding streaming to the phone from home networks. Check it out.
wow there is 2 mins of my life I will never see again
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wow there is 2 mins of my life I will never see again
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Wow - Just think of all of the productive things you could have done instead...
Why, there are plenty of things you can do right in your own community. You can visit a dairy, and find out how milk is handled and prepared for delivery. Or plan a series of window displays on home safety. You can start a library. You can discuss with your dentist what you can do to make your teeth more attractive...
there is an app called ORB that does this dude...
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gmote seems to be in the process of adding streaming to the phone from home networks. Check it out.
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I actually did look at gmote, but their streaming plans seem to be limited to music files only.
Thanks for the suggestion, though.
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there is an app called ORB that does this dude...
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Tried orb - didn't care for the choppiness. With DLNA, we're talking same quality as loading the video onto the phone itself.
I stream videos just fine on my EVO and dont pay anyone anything:
# vlc -v video.avi -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
Go to: rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp in your browser and watch video.
I view dish network on my EVO using the following as well:
vlc -v vlc -v v4l2:///dev/video0 :v4l2-standard=3:v4l2-standard=45056 :v4l2-chroma= :v4l2-input=1 :v4l2-audio-input=0 :v4l2-io=1 :v4l2-width=640 :v4l2-height=480 -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
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I stream videos just fine on my EVO and dont pay anyone anything:
# vlc -v video.avi -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
Go to: rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp in your browser and watch video
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Now this is something I find fascinating, but in all honesty, this seems to be a much more complicated solution, and I would be willing to try it, if the solution on the Epic wasn't so elegant.
Question though - I have all of my media meticulously organized into various folders for movie genre and TV shows/seasons, which makes browsing to the right video file easy. How does browsing for the correct video file form the phone work on your end?
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I stream videos just fine on my EVO and dont pay anyone anything:
# vlc -v video.avi -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
Go to: rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp in your browser and watch video.
I view dish network on my EVO using the following as well:
vlc -v vlc -v v4l2:///dev/video0 :v4l2-standard=3:v4l2-standard=45056 :v4l2-chroma= :v4l2-input=1 :v4l2-audio-input=0 :v4l2-io=1 :v4l2-width=640 :v4l2-height=480 -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
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holy crap that's some low quality
320x180
video: 384
audio: 64
i'm guessing you need VLC and DSS for this? or just VLC
i've actually been trying to get something like this figured out for a bit now but just haven't gotten my brain wrapped around it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6495551#post6495551
zonyl said:
I stream videos just fine on my EVO and dont pay anyone anything:
# vlc -v video.avi -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
Go to: rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp in your browser and watch video.
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Sorry for the novice question, but where do I input the above to set this up using Windows??
Anyone try?:
"We even offer a mobile version of our server. Currently available free in the Android™ app store, TwonkyServer Mobile lets you serve music, photos or video from your phone to devices all around the home."
http://www.twonkymedia.com/products/twonkyserver/
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Anyone try?:
"We even offer a mobile version of our server. Currently available free in the Android™ app store, TwonkyServer Mobile lets you serve music, photos or video from your phone to devices all around the home."
http://www.twonkymedia.com/products/twonkyserver/
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Tried enough to see that it was almost what I wanted. Unless I missed something, this will only allow you to stream from android to a DLNA device, but not the other way around. They also appear ot have a solution that will allow you to download files from the DLNA server to the andoid phone, but I don't want to download any of the files to the phone, just stream.
Shoot em' an email [email protected] &/or try their other support options-forums, let us know how it goes,
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DLNA is nice, but I cant fast forward movies from my computer...... HDMI/USB connect FTW!
Why wasn't this added as a reply to one of the other Epic threads (of which there are too many for an Evo forum)?
Samsung sucks
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lol sure thats why they have released source code with drivers for the galaxy s before the phone was released. Thats why there cpu thats 1 ghz almost runs 2x faster then snapdragon. Thats why there code runs 20% faster then other android phone. Thats why they get 90 million triangles per sec and evo gets get 12. Thats why they have avi support and the best screen on any android phone because they suck right?
Anyway I am getting one as well and I would give my evo to the wife but she does not want it. She likes her N1 way better. I will never buy a crap htc phone again. I am so glad that Samsung has released the source code and are allowing us to mod the phone. I think they have learned from there past mistakes.
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lol sure thats why they have released source code with drivers for the galaxy s before the phone was released. Thats why there cpu thats 1 ghz almost runs 2x faster then snapdragon. Thats why there code runs 20% faster then other android phone. Thats why they get 90 million triangles per sec and evo gets get 12. Thats why they have avi support and the best screen on any android phone because they suck right?
Anyway I am getting one as well and I would give my evo to the wife but she does not want it. She likes her N1 way better. I will never buy a crap htc phone again. I am so glad that Samsung has released the source code and are allowing us to mod the phone. I think they have learned from there past mistakes.
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I never knew this turned into a bad mouth HTC thread. Go ahead and get your samsung, but don't come crying to us when something goes wrong, or you want features that you can get on the evo and not your phone.
What's the best place to download movies to your phone. Do any of you guys download them directly to your phones? What format do they have to be in on the computer to put on your phone? I know my iphone was mpeg4. Keeping my kids busy on road trips, plane trips and restaurants is of paramount importance. I'd like to find a place to download some kids movies. Preferably for cheaper than $20. yuck. But I am not into stealing them so don't bother with torrent sites. The people that made them deserve to get paid for their craft.
Buy a dvd, rip it and convert. Works beautifully and legal to do.
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I am using the the early version of Dolphin Browser HD to download movies straight from YouTube. Works great, fast and free.
I've used Mobilism.org
Download to SD card, then watch, then transfer to laptop for safe keeping/storage.
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I download original copies from torrents and transfer them to my evo.
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rip the dvd's stright into mp4's with handbrake
I use an internet communications device to download them.
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I use an internet communications device to download them.
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Classic!!! But true!!
Yeah I have ripped dvds before but it's just getting harder due to the studios. I'd rather them go straight to my device.
xda-dev supports linking to and discussion of piracy? well i'll be damned
I've seen a few YouTube downloaders... but is there an app that allows you to save non-Youtube flash videos, like say from TankSpot (for World of Warcraft strategy guides) or Break.com?
Sprintusersforum.com has some movies posted under the old instinct board
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this discussion wasn't about piracy, the OP specifically said that he didn't want to do that.
handbrake is a great utility for converting dvds to appropriate formats. if you have a digital copy, you may be able to directly drag it over, or you can use handbrake to convert it to the right version.
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I use an internet communications device to download them.
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I really really hate your bling bling whatever . Brought back horrid memories of the hell that was Calculus 141 - Differential Calculus in university. 'tis not fun not being smart in maths believe me.
I've found this site to work well and the prices to be pretty reasonable.www.ipod-lounge.com.You can download straight to your phone or to you pc and then just copy to your sd card.
Ok. So the media hub is out. Looks like you can rent and/or own movies depending on title. The renting is 2.99. I've found own for 9.99 and 12.99. I'm a little worried about paying DVD prices (or somewhat less for some titles) and not getting the DVD, or getting the ability to transfer to another viewing device, ie. dvd, computer. Anyone know what the lowdown is on transfers, etc? I know I've had a hard time trying to find a movie that I can actually put on this phone via dvd ripping from my own dvd library (if that's even legal) or for download from any legal source online. At least the media hub has that going for it.
Anyone know if there are other avenues to actually use the awesome power of this device to watch movies in my palm? Is Media Hub better than?
Ps. I think it is funny that Forrest Gump is listed as comedy. Nice job classifying that one guys.
it still says coming soon for me :/
*edit* oh nevermind i see, its a system update to get it. XD
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Ps. I think it is funny that Forrest Gump is listed as comedy. Nice job classifying that one guys.
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I thought it was funny....
Anyone guess what my favorite part of Forrest Gump is?
hint: look at my avatar
When will we get Avatar? I thought it was suppose to come with all Galaxy S phones.
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When will we get Avatar? I thought it was suppose to come with all Galaxy S phones.
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Nope, just Vibrant as far as I can tell.
Does it bill to your Sprint bill or is there separate payment information?
probably have to stop by the store so they can take a melon baller to your seat cushion.
I'm not really sure how the payment works. I exchanged my phone today due to the back button issue. Now I haven't received the new update yet.
Media hub payments
Ok. So I broke down and bought the latest star trek. Basically, you enter your credit card information into Media Hub the app stores it there (actually, I think it stores it on Samsung's server). I don't think there are any alternatives. Now, based on the current download rate and percentage, I should be able to watch it sometime next week.
I LOL'ed
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Now, based on the current download rate and percentage, I should be able to watch it sometime next week.
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3G? 4G? Wifi? On 4G, the previews always played for me instantly. Even the 2 and a half minute trailers.
I watched a few previews over 4g. I have to admit the video quality was excellent and playback smooth. This might be good for an occasional rental, but once netflix comes out for Android they can kiss this goodbye.
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download speed and AllShare
Well it looks like there is no AllShare support. Can't push this thing to my TV (actually PS3) for viewing. The movie doesn't show up in the AllShare list. I'm not surprised I guess, just disappointed. My guess is that the movie is not being stored in any meaningful format so AllShare couldn't read it if it wanted to. Of course, there could be a way around or some setting I'm missing. I don't think it's a setting at this point though. Media Hub has no settings anywhere that I can find.
The video quality is pretty awesome, no skips, studders, sloops, woops, or whillips. The sounds wasn't *bad*. It's a decent movie viewing experience - even for a big screen action blockbuster. Would be awesome during a long flight, or similar, without having to drag along extra electronics.
However, combined with there currently being no mini-usb to hdmi cable means no support to watch Media Hub movies on a bigger screen. Looks like I'm back to looking for another solution to watching movies on my phone. 12 bucks isn't really a good investment vs. the actual DVD/Blueray (3 dollars more on Amazon). If I was wealthier, maybe. I think this means I won't be using Media Hub, except for the one movie I already paid for.
About the download speed:
I didn't bother trying to watch it before the download was finished so I don't know if that is possible. I think it was a 1-2 hour download but I didn't keep track, maybe I could have started it sooner. Not to bad I guess (over wifi). I couldn't imagine doing this over 3g...definitely an overnight thing.
Already, I was able to use Double twist to get my music off of iTunes and into my Xoom, that was pretty simple, and all is well.
I am going on vacation next Sunday, and I am going to need some movies to watch. Typically on my iPad, I can rent or buy a movie on iTunes and simply watch it.
I need to know the following:
1. Is there anyway to get protected movies off of iTunes and into the Xoom? I would rather not spend 10 hours ripping and burning a few movies.
2. What are my choices for movie download locations? Reliable, and virus free?
3. My experience with the Xoom has been a very positive one to this point, I just need a reliable and hopefully not a time consuming method to buy/rent movies, and/or a method to get movies already purchased from iTunes into the Xoom.
Thank you!!!
I don't know if this is the advice you are lookng for but you can always "barrow" movies from the internet via a torrent or download site like filestube. Although I haven't explored it yet, I believe amazon.com has some kind of video on demand service which would be comparable to iTunes video service I suppose. But until the xoom has flash support even that isn't an option. As far as the "barrowing" method originally mentioned, I wouldn't worry about viruses. The virus would have to be written for the android operating system and I dont think you will encounter that at this stage. This of course only applies if you are going to be downloading directly through three xoom. If you plan to use your PC first then transfer to the xoom, then I guess a little concern might be warranted, as always.
But the android market does have torrent apps, so direct downloads to the xoom is a viable option. Also torrent sites like btjunkie will have reviews/comments to give you an idea whether the file does what it says it should.
Also filestube can be used directly from the xoom. As far as finding good files, generally you want to look for results that have the movie name (or sometimes its abbreviation), the year it was made, "xvid", and that it its already in a watchable format i.e avi,mp4,etc.
These tend to almost always be bonafide files. Hope this helps.
Google really needs to get media support for their devices otherwise they will always border on the line of niche geek devices.
Op, I have been trying to answer your #1 question for many months...please share if you find a way to remove drm from iTunes movies!
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I have used a torrent client on my Nook Color to download a ep of Fringe it played flawless. It was only TV HD on not 720p but looked excellent. I think it took 10 minutes for a 325 Mb file no computer needed at all. I used rock player to play it. I would expect the xoom to have no trouble doing this.
Not sure what format it uses, but the Amazon Video market has an option for downloading for use on portable devices. It does look like you would have to start the process on your computer and then transfer the files to the device, but it might be pretty easy.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ontv/player/ref=atv_getstarted_player
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1. Is there anyway to get protected movies off of iTunes and into the Xoom? I would rather not spend 10 hours ripping and burning a few movies.
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Stripping the DRM is something I haven't seen yet, however, on other Android forums, I've seen the program Tunebite mentioned a couple of times.
It basically records the file while it is being played on your computer (similar to what "other" drm removal tools do, but supposedly, it accesses the file differently, enabling it to run faster.
I have no experience with it myself though. I tend to stay away from those kinds of files myself.
It sure seems like there's a golden opportunity here for Amazon to be the Android equivalent of iTunes for purchases of movies, TV shows and music.
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It sure seems like there's a golden opportunity here for Amazon to be the Android equivalent of iTunes for purchases of movies, TV shows and music.
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Amazon video on demand works right from the XOOM's browser. I haven't been able to copy anything to the actual device from the service, but you can at least stream all your Amazon videos.
Why do they make it soo hard to download movies and video legally? I've had such a hard time with DRM and such, that I've had to resort to other methods to get my media on my portables. I hate this soo much, I have no problem paying for my content, but if it is harder to pay them for it, than it is to "borrow" it, then why oh why would I pay for it? I would also like to see an answer to the OP. /end rant
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Stripping the DRM is something I haven't seen yet, however, on other Android forums, I've seen the program Tunebite mentioned a couple of times.
It basically records the file while it is being played on your computer (similar to what "other" drm removal tools do, but supposedly, it accesses the file differently, enabling it to run faster.
I have no experience with it myself though. I tend to stay away from those kinds of files myself.
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A tool called requiem will remove the DRM. You're on your own to find it though.
#2 I grab my movies from tehparadox.com I have never dl'ed any viruses from that site. Plus its an active site if theirs a problem with at post ppl will always let you know before you download
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www.imp4movies.com works for me.
Read my post on what u need to know before u buy Xoom
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there's a great program called DVDCatalysts4 that encodes DVD's & Blue Ray's just great.
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Why do they make it soo hard to download movies and video legally? I've had such a hard time with DRM and such, that I've had to resort to other methods to get my media on my portables. I hate this soo much, I have no problem paying for my content, but if it is harder to pay them for it, than it is to "borrow" it, then why oh why would I pay for it? I would also like to see an answer to the OP. /end rant
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I am not sure, but here in the Netherlands downloading movies is legal. Uploading is not. At this moment usenet is a excellent source especially with Spotnet. Works like a charm after the authorities closed down FTD (database of this program was in the Netherlands, but was no longer considered legal). Spotnet however is new designed and has a database on usenet itself which is impossible to shutdown.
All movies, music, series can be found there in topnotch quality and downloading goes with 12MB (that is MegaByte per second), depending on your internet account ofcourse. We in the Netherlands have a maximum of 120Mbit at this moment.
Not sure if it will also works overseas, but you could give it a try.
sorry if this has been hashed out somewhere else but i could not find it. does anyone know if you will be able to watch hulu on the transformer. my guess is no but alas i still have to ask thanks a lot
Hulu doesn't allow any mobile device to play their video, except for devices supported by Hulu+ (which I think is only iOS devices at this point).
I've been using PlayOn TV for both Netflix and Hulu on my Xoom, and it works well enough. Needs a Windows PC to stream the video, and it costs a bit of money, but actually still works out less than Hulu+ so it's a bit of a wash at this point.
Use the included My Desktop feature to watch Hulu.
that's what i thought. its pretty lame for those of us who want to use them as a laptop replacement
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that's what i thought. its pretty lame for those of us who want to use them as a laptop replacement
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I agree, but be thankful that you can take your Android device out of a box and start using it - with iOs, you are forced to use a computer to "activate" the device. What a PITA!
agreed i had a iphone 4 it was jailbroken. well anyways i tryed to do a master reset so i could sell it and low and behold it forced me to update to the latest software and firmware. it sure was a pain to sell it after that, now i have HTC inspire and much more happy
Actually, there is a flash player mod that hex edits the lib file to trick hulu into thinking your a windows PC. It works great on the incredible aand the xoom (I'm told) :,but whether that will work with transformer is another story.
Also, to the best of my knowledge, it requires root.
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dont mean to bring up an old thread but in case anyone is wondering .. using the hacked flash apk, i was able to stream through hulu.com .. works good and although its not in HD, the quality is very good!
http://asustransform.com/2011/06/08...ss-hulus-pejudice-on-asus-eeepad-transformer/