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XDA II Battery!

Is it just me or XDA II's battery is weak???
The icon on my GPRS monitor show that I only have 4 hours (after full charge) before my battery runs out!! :evil:
Please advise me!!

Don't worry, 4 hours is based on phone talk time

Tekflow said:
Don't worry, 4 hours is based on phone talk time
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My battery too is eaten up quickly when I activate the phone-abilty. Are there better batteries for sale anywhere?

I am for O2 to release a 'extended' battery.
At the moment I carry round two standard batteries swapping one by mid afternoon, which is a pain.
I would love one high-powered unit
Ashby

Battery time
I have found in a very non-sciencetific test, that the battery can actually last quite long:
7 hours 30 minutes (night) of Bluetooth OFF and no GPRS connection drained the battery from 100% to 96 %
7 hours 30 minutes of Bluetooth OFF and GPRS enabled, logged on to MS Messenger drained the battery from about 100% to 80 %. I was still logged on in the morning when turning the XDA on, pretty impressive.
Charging in the car cradle (Brodit active cradle) to and from work keeps the battery working all day.
Regards
Michael

I think the main problem is that we want our XDA's to do everything all at once i.e. GPRS online all day, Bluetooth active all day AND we want to actually use it at the same time i.e. make occasional phone calls (up to 1hr a day) AND use the PDA functions (1hr a day) AND perhaps to use it as an MP3 Walkman on the way to work as well (2hrs a day).
Yes it would be nice if it could do this but not everyone wants it to do so much and by providing as standard a battery suitable to last 18 hours (i.e. use all day - charge overnight) would mean the phone is uncompetetive in the market too expensive and too large (heavy). Would everyone pay another £60 ontop of what they paid (I know I would have thought twice)
I also do the battery dance mid afternoon so I for one would love to have a higher power battery (even if it means a bit more weight and size) but others do not. I suppose the real question is when will we at least get the option for a high power battery for us power users?
I think the only batteries available at the moment are the standard 1200mAh does anyone know how much difference would another 600mAh or even 1200mAh make to battery life?

Battery Power on Universal

Sorry, i'm bit new user for Universal, But i think my universal bettery drain faster than last Alpine. I want to ask other user, how often you charge the universal battery?
Thanks in advanced

Depends how you use it.
If im away from home at a weekend and hardly use my device - it might use 25% just being on standby for over 48 hours.
On a daily basis it might be on solidly for 2 hours throughout the day - when i get home battery might be down as much as 50% - thats making calls, texting, listening to music, bit of surfing on net, occasional game of Bejeweled.
Figures quoted by operators are 4hrs talk time, 240hrs standby - these figures mean nothing though.
Who's going to leave their device unused for 240hours to test it!!!
So in answer to your question charging at least once every two days perhaps every day depending on use.
Matt

@ matt1971:
Thanks a lot for reply, I'll figure it out. And test in couple days ahead.

my uni is always on charging as i use it to connect my lappy with that but it dies after 30% of its battery think it is near on its last days .

Hmmm... sthe battery is long enought if on stand by mobe, but if i play with it, it drain fastly. I'll looking for why?
Anyone can help? Or any sugestion?

my suggestion is to refrain from plugging it thru the usb frequently. my battery problems surfaced only after i used wm5torage a lot.... others may say that it wouldnt matter, that poly ion bats should have no memory effect, but i've been bitten twice and i wont take the risk anymore..

Question?
Hi,
Do you use Internet?
Cheers, Leo
matt1971 said:
Depends how you use it.
If im away from home at a weekend and hardly use my device - it might use 25% just being on standby for over 48 hours.
On a daily basis it might be on solidly for 2 hours throughout the day - when i get home battery might be down as much as 50% - thats making calls, texting, listening to music, bit of surfing on net, occasional game of Bejeweled.
Figures quoted by operators are 4hrs talk time, 240hrs standby - these figures mean nothing though.
Who's going to leave their device unused for 240hours to test it!!!
So in answer to your question charging at least once every two days perhaps every day depending on use.
Matt
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Hello everyone,
Just got an XDA Exec yesterday with two batteries. However, the both charge to 85% and don't move forward. They've been on the AC plug for over three hours now. Am I missing a config setting or something?
Thanks in advance!
-Marc

lightstorm66 said:
Hello everyone,
Just got an XDA Exec yesterday with two batteries. However, the both charge to 85% and don't move forward. They've been on the AC plug for over three hours now. Am I missing a config setting or something?
Thanks in advance!
-Marc
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No setting needed to charge the battery until 100%, hardware failure i guess, any warranty for replacement, I mean maybe the unit, coz it happend on your 2 battery

cornelius,
Thanks much. It MAY be that these batteries have never been fully charged; I left them on overnight and although it took A LONG TIME to get over the 85% hump, they eventually got there.

battery charging
you do need to charge the battery first time for a good 16hours - i've gone for a 3200mah Lithium ion instead of the standard 1600mah - got it off ebay for £16 with a new rear cover as its really thick!!! only problem now is the brick won't sit in the car cradle ;-)

Robegee,
Does your unit report battery % correctly, or does it stick at 100% all the time? I've read (haven't tried), that these aftermarket batteries don't report drain properly.
Just curious... I'm thinking about purchasing an extended battery, but want to know. Where did you get yours from?
Thanks.
-Kevin.

For how long D2 battery lasts?

Hi,
I have diamond, and thinking to get diamond2.
I have a question for D2 owners.
How is the battery life on D2, because the original battery for D1 was terrible, I got the extendet one so it's ok. But as I know there is no extendet battery for D2. And the stock one is just a bit bigger then D1. But the screen is also bigger on D2, with drains more battery, I think.
How long the phone lasts with moderate use? Also is there a difference with 6.1 and 6.5.1 rom with battery drainage?
And maybe someone had D1 and now hase D2, so whats the + and - compared?
Thanks

I have had both. The TD2's battery is considerably better than the TD(1) in my opinion. I'd say the TD2 would be at about 30-40% charge once the TD(1) run out.

I think my TD2's battery is pretty good, as long as 3G and bluetooth are turned off. Other than that: abysmal (Not quite TD1 bad, but almost)

p.brazauskas said:
Hi,
How long the phone lasts with moderate use?
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I'm getting around 90 hours. I recharge when the battery reaches 40%-50%. Generally bluetooth, wifi, and cellphone radios are turned off. I use my TD2 as PDA.

I find the D2 battery life on WM6.5 much improved. I seemed to be always charging it but now, it's less critical. Also, with all transmitters turned off, the lifetime is pretty good. My phone was on for a week on holiday and the battery was 90% by the end of the week having turned the mobile on for an hour or so to check messages a couple of times.
Of course, turning the phone & WiFi off isn't very practical but it does shown where the power drain comes from - no surprises there!
Cheers, Rob.

am getting 2 days , to 3 ...normal usage, and songs.

got even 4 days with normal usage. Can always buy a bigger battery

My wife got a TD2, and battery lasts for 3-4 days with her usage, and when I used her phone it lasts about 2 days. Not too bad, really.

The longer you have the TD2, the less you "play" with it and therefore the better the battery becomes. Never base battery consumption in the first month of getting your new toy
Cheers, Rob.

On ROM Base 2.18 drained for couple hour.
On 2.16 go 3-4 days with normal usage...
Regards

I have Duty HG R6 and battery drains FAST! Fully charged it lasts less than a day with normal usage on 2G network and everything turned off (BT, WF), few messages and max 2 hours of talking! And one more thing, anyone else experiencing that phone is getting hotter after 5-10 minutes of talking? Sometimes I cant put it on ear because of that...

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I have Duty HG R6 and battery drains FAST! Fully charged it lasts less than a day with normal usage on 2G network and everything turned off (BT, WF), few messages and max 2 hours of talking! And one more thing, anyone else experiencing that phone is getting hotter after 5-10 minutes of talking? Sometimes I cant put it on ear because of that...
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Same here, 2 hours of talking and battery are gone, all other (BT, Wifi, 3G) are off, no play with device, only talking and some short e-mail read or write.
I search this forum and all users write that device last for 3-4 day ?? But what usage are to last 3-4 day, my phone is empty on half of working day.
And yes, phone are hot after 10-20 minutes of talking, some time my call last for 50-60 minutes, and this is terrible, like radiator on ear.
My call consumes eta 1% for 1 minute of call, (13 minutes , battery drops 11-12%)
Is this normal for this device, i have no answer on this question, but i plan send device to HTC service, because 5 h of talking in specification are far away in my Diamond2.

Maybe we should try some rom with 2.16 base and not 2.18 like miro666 sad. Will try it soon and report than and I'm using 4.49.25.14 radio...

I always have everything switched on with wifi and data access available when needed.
I run a 'lite' ROM, always install all apps to phone mem (Micro SD usage consumes a lot of power) and charge as often as possible.
I am probably what you would describe as a heavy user. I always carry a spare battery and an external power pack.
I need the extra power only rarely and so I usually make it throught an eight hour day on phone power alone with this usage.

Only a Day
I have a standard TD2 with a standard UK 6.5 upgrade.
Battery beeds charging daily. Im not even a heavy user. I make/receive a few calls, send a few texts, check my email and use "Brain Trainer" game for 15mins whilst on the bus going home from work.
The battery is pants!!

[Q] Battery Life?

So Samsung Omnia 7 or Focus owners, how is the battery treating you on the phone? I'm going to switch to AT&T for this phone, but I want to make sure battery life is good too on it!
Based on your "average" use, how much battery life do you get? You can make it like 1 and a half days? Barely make it through a day? 2 days??
Thanks everyone! Vote in the poll, but I'd rather here your written opinions!

You seem to be missing the Lasts a Full Day option...

Could people post whether their usage is using push or not? Been hearing some heavily varying battery life from people and personally I need this phone to last a full day on push.

My finding so far....
It doesn't last a day doing what i want it to. But I do a lot with it, bluetooth music for hours, wifi when at home, games at breaks, facebook checking, marketplace scanning, phone calls, plenty of texts and email (set to 30 min)
To be honest it does very well, would be handy to get some app that shows % of batt and estimated time remaining.
It does seem to take quite a while to charge from nearly flat, the Omnia 7 has a decent sized battery. In order to increase the battery life i've set the tiles to red, I seem to remember reading a while back that the power consumption is reduced when displaying red for some reason or another. Will keep you posted if i notice a measurable difference to life.
I tend to charge the phone overnight, and by 5/6pm the battery icon is pretty much empty and i give it a boost for an hour to see me through the rest of the evening before getting its proper charge at night.
Remember batteries tend to take a few days/weeks to reach there maximum performance.
Sorry for the disjointed post but its whatever comes to mind as i type lol

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You seem to be missing the Lasts a Full Day option...
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Well, the "Lasts a day and a half" covers lasting a full day. If your phone barely lasts a full day, then you would pick the first option. If it lasts a full day pretty well, then you would probably have enough juice to go another half day, therefore you would pick the second option.
Thanks for your feedback rlatarche! Yeah it might be true that the battery needs to settle in and be better calibrated, after being drained and recharged. That'd be awesome if your battery life improves sometime!

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Well, the "Lasts a day and a half" covers lasting a full day. If your phone barely lasts a full day, then you would pick the first option. If it lasts a full day pretty well, then you would probably have enough juice to go another half day, therefore you would pick the second option.
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But what if you have, say 15% left at the end of the day. That's not enough for another half a day, but I wouldn't say it's barely making it a day.
Depends on what you mean by barely.
Of course, I'm only messing with you.

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But what if you have, say 15% left at the end of the day. That's not enough for another half a day, but I wouldn't say it's barely making it a day.
Depends on what you mean by barely.
Of course, I'm only messing with you.
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Haha I guess. There's no way to edit polls though, is there? I couldn't find the option to at all :/

I can play music for a couple of hours while commuting, surf occasionally throughout the day over Wifi and still have plenty of charge left by bed(charging)time.
Of course, the joy of not having a sealed phone is that you can always buy a second battery

Battery does not last long at all.
Im a pretty heavy data user. Email, Attachments, Browsing, Wifi, Etc. Fully Charged this morning,its now 3:00PM and it needs a charge. barley see the white battery level on the display.
I have added a 16GB Class 2 Micro SD card. Everything is working fine. I hope this is not a related issue.
Anyone else experiencing this as a heavy user.
Overall im very happy with the phone. very fluid and easy to use. Great one handed operation.

illipro said:
Battery does not last long at all.
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I think the battery needs a few charge cycles to attain its full capacity. Also I think it is suggested that you charge the Li-ion batteries very often first few days and don't let them deplete completely.

illipro said:
Battery does not last long at all.
Im a pretty heavy data user. Email, Attachments, Browsing, Wifi, Etc. Fully Charged this morning,its now 3:00PM and it needs a charge. barley see the white battery level on the display.
I have added a 16GB Class 2 Micro SD card. Everything is working fine. I hope this is not a related issue.
Anyone else experiencing this as a heavy user.
Overall im very happy with the phone. very fluid and easy to use. Great one handed operation.
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Well I ended up getting the HD7. Battery life isn't great over here either. I got through until like 6:00 tonight, from a morning's charge. As the other guy said, the batteries might need some time to train themselves.

The problem with battery usage on the Focus and the Omnia 7 is the S-AMOLED display. AMOLED displays have different power usage depending on what is showing on screen while LCDs tend to have pretty much the same power usage no matter what is showing.
If you're seeing a white screen on your Focus, it's using about 3 times more power than the same screen on an HD7, for example. That means that if you spend most of the time looking at websites, the mail app or the facebook app, your battery will last less than on a phone with an LCD display.
However, if most of the time your phone is on standby or you're using apps with a black background your phone will last a lot longer than the HD7 also thanks to the bigger battery (1500mAh vs 1230mAh).

Last night my Focus received a full charge.
Took the phone off the charger at 7am and needed to put it back on at 7pm.
2 hours of phone calls.
Gmail (Push, 45 emails 1 attachment)
Texting (40 texts)
Light browsing of the web
I have had some accidental camera button smushes and that turns the phone on, and it doesn't go back to sleep, so that could be some drain.

I used it on Nov 8th from desk at work with it plugged in to wall charger. It took nearly the whole 9 hours I was there to charge the battery while I was using it. I was using it VERY heavily. Due to MicroSD issue (Lost everything on power cycle) I had to re add apps over the air. I streamed & downloaded from Zune, had all 'use location' features on, activated find phone fast feature, linked 4 email accounts, I pretty much got paid to play with my phone all day.
Nov 9th, I woke up with full charge around 7am. Didn't use phone much till got to work 9:45am. Today I left it unplugged from wall to test battery life. I streamed from Zune and Last.FM, and had 43 minutes of phone calls, 47 text messages, 11 of which had pics attached, and used map with location and traffic on when I went to lunch. Note the screen is off during music streaming. I also used a very simple $10 Logitech 2 speaker set that plugged into my phone, with phone volume on 20. When I got into my car at 8:15pm I still had life in the phone. I assume that using the external speakers greatly reduced power drain on phone. I have a spare battery and wall charger. The wall charger takes about 5-6 hours to charge a dead battery. I'm not sure yet how long it takes the phone to charge the battery, since I sleep while its doing it.

Mine is almost dead by late afternoon.
I shouldn't have to shut all the extra like wifi, bluetooth, location and dim the screen just to scrape by for barely a day. It's either the OEM batteries, or inefficiencies in the WP7 code. Since no 3rd party apps can run the background, I can't blame them...yet!

Battery life of Samsung Focus is short.

Does anyone agree that the battery life for Samsung Focus is really short?
I use my phone to check emails, browse websites and listen to music during lunch, dinner and on the road. The total hands on time per day is roughly 2hrs. But if I only charge it overnight, not anytime else, it only last until right after dinner.
It unacceptably short comparing to my ex-phone, HTC Touch Pro2.
Anyone experiencing the same thing?
Who should take care of this issue? Samsung or Microsoft?

My phone on moderate use will last me 1.5-2 days but I usually charge it at the end of the night regardless. In the first couple of days I did notice that the battery would drain pretty fast but seemed to get better after that.

Mine will typically go from 7:30 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. or so while still having the battery indicator having something inside. That's with it being used all day as an mp3 player, triaging email, web surfing, and Twitter.

When you get a new phone the battery has to go through a couple of cycles charging for the phone to calibrate. Also, keep in mind things that drain battery: light theme, streaming, basically downloading massive amounts of data. Make you sure you discharge your battery to about 10% and fully charge your battery a couple of times. Try not to go below 10% not good for battery. Make sure you are using wall adapter ac to charge. Charging from a pc is very slow and generally doesn't fully charge unless you leave it plugged for a LONG time.
Light use I'd say 1.5 days
Moderate 1 full day
Heavy use 7-8 hours

With light use i get about 4 to 5 days, heavy use i get about a day or two. Check to see if you have location services (GPS) running, wifi, etc as the more parasitic things you can turn off the better the battery life of course.

Mine lasts all day for me. A long 16+ hour day with moderate usage leaves me at about 30-35% battery. I keep Wi-Fi turned off and bluetooth always on. Not bad for a smart phone. I've seen phones far worse than this (Sprint Epic anyone?).

My battery last abour 8 - 9 hours, and I'm running for a outlet by then. But I'm a heavy user. Bt headphones with the music playing, twitter constantly, facebook, text, email, IE..., pretty much all of those 8 - 9 hours.

I have just about everything that I can find turned on, and have been using my new toy as much as possible. With that, I'm having to charge about twice a day, which is roughly where I was at with my Tilt2. Your battery drainage really sounds like it's normal, and likely related entirely to how much crap you have turned on and running in the background. The biggest drainer of the battery in any phone is gonna be the radio, so if you want to improve battery life, turn off stuff that connects to the network and set your email/weather/tweets/facebook to refresh much less often. Select "as items arrive" for your hotmail and Gmail so that they push instead of pull. Check your basics first before trying to find a customer service rep to chew out.

I'm happy with my battery life. I just charge it every night like I have every phone Ive owned. I use my phones as my morning alarm clock. I have all location services active, and i activate WiFi when usable. At work I leave it plugged in to stream music and podcast.

Coming from Android and Droid Incredible, the Focus is awesome on battery. I have no problem lasting the full day. I charge my phone each night overnight.

It's a mixed bag for me. the first few days when I was just getting to know it, making calls and just goofing around with basic functionality the battery was lasting very long and things were looking great.
Once I started using the data and other apps, the battery drains very fast IMO. I mean play a 2D game for half an hour and I won’t make it through the day.
Right now I’m not digging it that if I’m out and about I feel like I need to avoid using the phone like I would like to.
I’m really looking forward to being able to do things like being able to easily disable 3g.

I'm most certainly happy with my battery life. After using a nexus one, xperia x10 and the galaxy s I have nothing to complain about with the focus....just lovin wp7 at the moment.

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It's a mixed bag for me. the first few days when I was just getting to know it, making calls and just goofing around with basic functionality the battery was lasting very long and things were looking great.
Once I started using the data and other apps, the battery drains very fast IMO. I mean play a 2D game for half an hour and I won’t make it through the day.
Right now I’m not digging it that if I’m out and about I feel like I need to avoid using the phone like I would like to.
I’m really looking forward to being able to do things like being able to easily disable 3g.
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Games are always battery killers, especially on AMOLED screens that tend to get the best battery life with black interfaces, since they actually don't light the pixels up if they're supposed to be black.

Coming from an iPhone 4 i can't complain. Battery on that was amazing. The focus doesn't Last at long but I can't say im disappointed. It's actually better than expected.

It is normal for the battery to die after browsing the internet for about 3-4 hours?? Not happy about that.

Battery life
It depends on how the phone has been used. Screen is the biggest power drain, than the radio (3G data, WiFI, location services).
With all on and moderate usage (gaming for 30 mins, a few calls, and playing with the phone for an hour) I get about 12 -13 hours.
With all off and a few TXT and calls (about 10 -12) I get about 76 hours.
Not bad I guess.
This phone is better than iPhone 3GS.

jimenez16 said:
My phone on moderate use will last me 1.5-2 days but I usually charge it at the end of the night regardless. In the first couple of days I did notice that the battery would drain pretty fast but seemed to get better after that.
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I agree, I was loosing full battery within half a day with my normal usage for the first 4-6 days... Then after a while, now I can go for 2 days without charging under normal usage...
The battery life on this thing rocks!

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I agree, I was loosing full battery within half a day with my normal usage for the first 4-6 days... Then after a while, now I can go for 2 days without charging under normal usage...
The battery life on this thing rocks!
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I use my Focus heavily for reading texts off of PDFs and browse the internet using WiFi most of the day, and in my free times I listen to music so I use it quite heavily. Yesterday I ran it through my routine day and got about 14-15 hours of full operational time from 100% charge as I took off from my dormitory to university to 0% half-way back to my dorm. My only problem is the length of time it has to be plugged in to charge. Its pretty slow, but that may be because of the large battery capacity to begin with.

the battery life is just OK, hopefully like with other cellphone updates maybe battery life will be improved at least somewhat, we can hope....

I have two of these things. Mine I use a lot and while the battery lasts less than my old 3GS, I am getting used to it and end up keeping hooked up to a charger pretty often.
My wife's on the other hand is baffling. She hardly uses the thing, maybe a call every day or two. For a while there we were getting about 3 days from a charge and then it would still have around 30%-50% left.
Now in the last few days, it drains the battery completely overnight. And I mean completely its totally shut down and dead. That’s with wifi and Bluetooth off and virtually no usage. Not sure what is happening, but this really sucks as now she can’t count on the thing to just be a phone without needing to be babied.