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Seidio/Mugen/Mobi? Which Extended Battery for Tilt/Kaiser?

Hi-
I apologize if this has already been asked. I *DID* search around this site, several others and even Google but no one seems to have posted a comparison of extended battery compatibility along with pros/cons of the expanded battery cover backing...
So, like everyone else, my Tilt doesn't last overnight w/o a recharge. In looking at my options for extended batteries, it looks like the largest are the Mugen 3000, the Seidio 3200 and the Mobi 3000.
I'm curious as to peoples opinions on these major points:
1-Duration coupled with whether the battery causes lock-ups/freezes or other errors for the phone...
2-How the revised back cover of the phone compares to the OEM cover with respect to the camera lens, speaker and GPS.
3-Cases and cradle chargers that will work w/ extended battery covers...
4-Tweaks or other hacks needed for the Tilt to recognize the extended battery time.
Thanks everyone in advance!!
M

Instead of other I think you should have put the option of " I dont know". I think people clicked for the sake of clicking to see the results quicker. My 2 cents.

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I have a Boxwave 2700 mah and a Seidio 1600 mah battery. The boxwave is from Taiwan with a humped back cover, so I can use my Seido holster, but will not fit in my cradle. Does fit into my Brodit car holder though, and the full backed extended battery cover will as well.
I cannot for the life of me get the correct battery reserve power reading correct. I have tried every tweak and twitch I have read and perused the registry for settings not mentioned elseware, as well as various 3rd party battery utilities, to no avail. Quite frustrating, as I can alarm on low battery, pull it out, put it back in and have 45-60% battery left on the meter. Don't know what else to do, as it does it with my 1600 and 2700 and did it with a "borrowed' Mugen 3000 for a test. Tried all the reccomendations of running it fully down and doing recharge, all that stuff, still wrong indicaitons of remaining power.
This is my greatest frustration right now with the Tilt I have and the other 8 I have bought for employees.
MWS

wow! im having the same problem!
got the mugen 3000 and the reading is always off!
I cant find any solutions!

I ordered the Seidio 3200 battery and tried charging it in my AT&T 8925 Tilt. I left it on charge until the light turn Green.
Starting using it and within 8 hours I was at LOW battery and system died. I removed the battery and put it back in and the battery indicated goes up to 73%.
What is the deal here. Is it my phone that does not understand that it has a larger battery or is it the battery. Since that time I have sent the battery and got a new one and the same thing.
Is there some software utility to tell the Pocket PC that it has a larger battery.
Confused....????...!!!!

Wow, so...
As I sit here perusing options for replacement Wizard and Kaiser batteries (my sister's phone and my own...) I suddenly fear the pointlessness of choosing an extended battery! Has any headway been made on these extended battery glitches in general?

Nope. The Tilt's hardware always expects the standard battery's capacity, and will turn off when that is reached even if the battery is actually twice the capacity and is still half full.

So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? Well, glad I read this thread, I won't waste my money.

Yep. However you can remove/reinsert the battery and have more running time again. But then in that case as you have to turn the device off and open the case anyway you're better off getting a 2nd standard battery and swapping it when it's empty. Saves you from having a Kaiser that's twice as thick for nothing.

What About....
Well, I think one objective would be to try charging it as often as possible. It may be that if you plug it back into a charger, it will grant an extension of time. But in the event you are unable to charge it, you could simply remove and reinsert the battery to continue on. Has anyone tried this? I'm curious to know.

"So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? "
Could someone please clarify this as I find it confusing as well, I'm just using the times and percent for reference to understand.
Lets say with the stock battery it takes 8 hours to get to 40%.
Will an extended battery like those listed give me longer, like maybe 10-12 hours before it gets to 40%?
I too have searched and read everything from people swearing to get no extra time at all no matter what they do, to people getting double the talk/data time and everything in between, including but not limited to that the usable time gets longer with each recharge. If I'm going to have to take the battery out 3 times a day, I might as well just get 4 or 5 extra stock sized batteries for the same price.
Looking for someone to clear the fog...
Thanks in advance.

mileskb said:
"So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? "
Could someone please clarify this as I find it confusing as well, I'm just using the times and percent for reference to understand.
Lets say with the stock battery it takes 8 hours to get to 40%.
Will an extended battery like those listed give me longer, like maybe 10-12 hours before it gets to 40%?
I too have searched and read everything from people swearing to get no extra time at all no matter what they do, to people getting double the talk/data time and everything in between, including but not limited to that the usable time gets longer with each recharge. If I'm going to have to take the battery out 3 times a day, I might as well just get 4 or 5 extra stock sized batteries for the same price.
Looking for someone to clear the fog...
Thanks in advance.
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Take a read from my post on here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336896&page=2
Battery 2700mAh:
"Full discharge removed battery and replaced and gained 10% so not that much of a difference no where near 50%
So effectively i have 2435mAh battery & 10% reserve so still far better than a 1350mAh."

I wish aztilt would have posted which battery he/she has.
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I am one of those that is very happy with the extended battery because the duration from turn on to auto shut off by the phone is at least 3 hours longer than the OEM battery for my usage. I don't have to think about charging the battery or swapping the battery until I get home at night from work. And there is still the option of remove and reinstall the battery if I don't want to charge it right away. I rarely if never need to do the latter.
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If I could get 3 more hours before shut-down, that might be worth it. It would mean 90% of the time, I'd get 12 hours of use as long as I didn't need the GPS. It would have meant last week I would have not spent an extra 30 minutes on ice because the GPS quit with less than a mile to go, but I didn't know which way, and I had not way to charge it, so I spent an extra 45 minutes trying to find the highway home when it was time to leave. Just 3 extra hours would have been perfect.
I can't tell you how many times an extra 30 minutes even would have made all the difference in the world, and I really can't think of a time when I needed more than a couple hours.
I realize I'm playing to its weakness. I rarely use the phone itself, but I'm always in email, rss feeds, web browsing, listening to music and using the GPS.
If an extended battery will get me through a normal workday without having to rush home to charge it... That would make me a happy camper.

I have the Mugen 3000

I have the seidio 3200 and after i fully charged it for the first time use, I use it for like 12 hours of txt, calls, internet and normally at the end of the 12 hours i have about 20% of battery left. Just mainly depends on what ROM your using, what radio your using and what programs you have running. Just because 5 people have the same battery doesnt mean all 5 people use their phones for the same thing. Best thing i found is find the one with the highest battery life and go with it.

Can one battery last 15 hours of ebook reading?

Just wonder how long can the battery last on airplane. I have lots of ebooks that I would like to read on airplane but wonder if one battery alone is able to last 15 hours.
I've considered buying a airplane charger but worried that not all aircrafts have the charging facility.
Good idea to bring at least one spare battery for the trip?

eaglesteve said:
Just wonder how long can the battery last on airplane. I have lots of ebooks that I would like to read on airplane but wonder if one battery alone is able to last 15 hours.
I've considered buying a airplane charger but worried that not all aircrafts have the charging facility.
Good idea to bring at least one spare battery for the trip?
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I suppose it is based somewhat on the battery life one is experiencing, but I am finding I get a full days use with 5-7 hours constant use of internet, MMS and phone. That's a lot of high power use topped off with a couple of hours of playing music and another odd hour or two of ebook, much more than the backlight of an ebook alone.
My experience tells me I would not hestitate a minute to say you'd have ample power for a day of ebook use.

audscott said:
I suppose it is based somewhat on the battery life one is experiencing, but I am finding I get a full days use with 5-7 hours constant use of internet, MMS and phone. That's a lot of high power use topped off with a couple of hours of playing music and another odd hour or two of ebook, much more than the backlight of an ebook alone.
My experience tells me I would not hestitate a minute to say you'd have ample power for a day of ebook use.
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5 to 7 hours of constant use and still lasting a day sounds good. On the airplane, with flight mode on, I expect the drain to be much less severe, so I guess you're right about it only having to produce the backlight.
I guess the answer is there should be no problem then. Cool.

battery life in reading mode from mobile-review.com:

dainys said:
battery life in reading mode from mobile-review.com:
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That's even more assuring. Thanks for this info.

sure it's £50, but you might want to look at getting one of these: http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=173540, it's basically a power brick that is supposed to hold 3 charges for your device. The upshot of this is that when your device is running low, you connect to the bank and it starts charging. This means that you have backup power and you don't have to turn off the device, remove the cover, change the battery, replace cover, turn back on!
It's certainly up there on my list of stuff to get once mine arrives!

I have always one of these with me, so I can charge whatever is needed ...
APC Mobile Power Pack

Finally - Slim 1500mAh Extended Battery Using Original Cover!

Finally it seems that Seidio has come out with an extended battery that fits without having to replace the back cover.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BASI15HTCX1
It is only 1500mAh which is about 10% more battery power but that might just be enough for some people to make it through one heavy day of use.
Part # BASI15HTCX1
The compatibility tab on the manufactures site says it will work with the Touch Pro / Fuze.

galfert said:
Finally it seems that Seidio has come out with an extended battery that fits without having to replace the back cover.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BASI15HTCX1
It is only 1500mAh which is about 10% more battery power but that might just be enough for some people to make it through one heavy day of use.
Part # BASI15HTCX1
The compatibility tab on the manufactures site says it will work with the Touch Pro / Fuze.
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I might have to get me one of those.

Side Note: i just noticed you live in orlando, FL so do I. Do you go to ucf?

Seems like a lot of money for a little more power. I think I'd rather buy 2 extra batteries and a charger for half the price and just keep an extra battery on hand... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2x-Battery-13...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:15|39:1|240:1318

For what it's worth, I picked up one of these and slapped it in my Fuze last night. I know it'll take a handful of power drains to fully "charge" it up, but will report back when I can.

ribcage said:
Seems like a lot of money for a little more power. I think I'd rather buy 2 extra batteries and a charger for half the price and just keep an extra battery on hand... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2x-Battery-13...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:15|39:1|240:1318
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I bought something similar to this on ebay. The two batteries I got last a lot shorter than the factory battery. I cycled the batteries 5 times and still the capacity has not increased. I would say I get about 25% shorter battery life with these batteries...they do a good job of making them look authentic...minus they all have the same serial number stamped on them...

ahh i was hoping it had more mah, its not even worth the extra money to purchase this. the things people make, its not even worth it.

Has anyone ordered or used one of these? I'm interested I just want some opinions before I go and spend 44 US dollars on it.

Antzor said:
Has anyone ordered or used one of these? I'm interested I just want some opinions before I go and spend 44 US dollars on it.
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Are you serious? Look up at Beknatok's post

Beknatok said:
For what it's worth, I picked up one of these and slapped it in my Fuze last night. I know it'll take a handful of power drains to fully "charge" it up, but will report back when I can.
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Conditioning a Li-Ion battery is a myth and you only speed up the lifetime of the battery that only lasts about 2-3 years.
When you get your phone, you should plug it in, charge it to full, and have fun with it. None if this "charge, discharge, charge, discharge" is needed.

bfspider said:
Conditioning a Li-Ion battery is a myth and you only speed up the lifetime of the battery that only lasts about 2-3 years.
When you get your phone, you should plug it in, charge it to full, and have fun with it. None if this "charge, discharge, charge, discharge" is needed.
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It's not a myth, sort of.
It takes a few cycles for the sensor to accurately understand the capacity of the battery. This means the battery might be detected as "empty," when there's some left.
After that, you only need to "recalibrate" once in three months or so to stay updated. For everyday use, you are right. It's better to charge whenever possible (but constantly trying to "charge" at 100% is not a good thing, even with the "smart chip" halting the process).

irus said:
Side Note: i just noticed you live in orlando, FL so do I. Do you go to ucf?
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nice to see other ucf knights on here.

So, does anyone have any thoughts on the seidio extended battery? How much longer is it lasting for you all? How much of a difference does it actually make?

As I posted before, I got the battery the other day. Thus far, it seems to extend my capabilities enough to where I only have to charge my Fuze once a day. The exception was Friday when my bus got stuck in traffic, so I watched video for an hour. Previously, I could last about 8 hours before needing to charge.
For what it's worth, I'm a heavy SMS and data user. Don't really talk all that much, but do a lot of SMS, surfing, apps, and other PDA-ish activities with my Fuze. Running the Elite RC2 ROM as well.

Beknatok said:
As I posted before, I got the battery the other day. Thus far, it seems to extend my capabilities enough to where I only have to charge my Fuze once a day. The exception was Friday when my bus got stuck in traffic, so I watched video for an hour. Previously, I could last about 8 hours before needing to charge.
For what it's worth, I'm a heavy SMS and data user. Don't really talk all that much, but do a lot of SMS, surfing, apps, and other PDA-ish activities with my Fuze. Running the Elite RC2 ROM as well.
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So what does that mean. How many hours are you getting now? I understand you were only getting up to 8 hrs before, correct?

lpsi2000 said:
So what does that mean. How many hours are you getting now? I understand you were only getting up to 8 hrs before, correct?
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Went from about 8 hours to about 12-13 hours, unless I do something super-draining like watch video for an extended period of time. Mind you, I've only had the battery in what... 4 days now, so this is still very limited scope.
Today, I was up at 6AM @ 100%... spent about 30 minutes surfing on the train, during my commute in... did some SMS... and just spent the last 90 minutes stuck in a meeting playing Freecell... and am at 57% full.

Beknatok said:
Went from about 8 hours to about 12-13 hours, unless I do something super-draining like watch video for an extended period of time. Mind you, I've only had the battery in what... 4 days now, so this is still very limited scope.
Today, I was up at 6AM @ 100%... spent about 30 minutes surfing on the train, during my commute in... did some SMS... and just spent the last 90 minutes stuck in a meeting playing Freecell... and am at 57% full.
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So in your estimation so far.. is it worth the $44 plus shipping and whatnot?

SkitchBeatz said:
So in your estimation so far.. is it worth the $44 plus shipping and whatnot?
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seems like it is, when i get my pay check am def getting this battery then. remember to keep ur orginal battery ppl for warranty and exchanges

allthatinny said:
seems like it is, when i get my pay check am def getting this battery then. remember to keep ur orginal battery ppl for warranty and exchanges
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and also as a backup! the main reason i might buy this is not to completely replace my original battery, but between the two, you can easily get through a heavy day of usage... now to find a charging dock for the extra battery...

g2tl said:
It's not a myth, sort of.
It takes a few cycles for the sensor to accurately understand the capacity of the battery. This means the battery might be detected as "empty," when there's some left.
After that, you only need to "recalibrate" once in three months or so to stay updated. For everyday use, you are right. It's better to charge whenever possible (but constantly trying to "charge" at 100% is not a good thing, even with the "smart chip" halting the process).
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This might be true for laptop batteries but not necesarily true for phone batts.. the phones monitor the battery's voltage and compute the state of charge based on that.. there is no "smart" guts in phone batteries

Question about battery: anyone has a similar usage?

Hi people,
I have recently dumped a Omnia2 for a Desire, just to try Android.
Although it's a beautiful phone, battery life is [email protected], so I'm considering a come back to WM, maybe to HTC HD2.
But before I make my decision, I want to know if the HD2 battery can last for at least 40 hours in my normal usage:
- 40 minutes of phone calls (made/received);
- 90 minutes (1,5 hours) of listening to music over bluetooth, using a bluetooth stereo headset;
- Auto-sync weather every 3 hours;
- Auto-sync email every 3 hours;
- 10-15 minutes of internet browsing;
- Manual sync of my Google account to update agenda and contacts twice a day.
All connections are made using 3G, I'm over a 3G network all day long.
With this daily usage, I got my Omnia2 running for about 65 hours! Let's say, almost 3 days long! I even left it on all night long, without worrying with the battery. Each day consumed 30%-35% of battery juice.
With that usage in my Desire, after one day 45% to 50% of battery juice is gone. I have to turn it off at night so I can use it the next day without recharging. It's about 26-28 hours of total usage before I have to charge it. I don't know if this is normal, maybe I just got spoiled by Omnia2 battery.
What about HD2? Does anyone have a similar usage? Do you think that if I use a HD2 that way, its battery will last longer than Desire battery?

If I had usage like that I wouldn't carry two batteries around with me Music trashes my battery and takes usage above 300mah which in theory is just over 4 hours and I listen quite a fair bit. The desire has a larger battery than the HD2 anyway and I don't think win mo has that great power management.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but i seriously doubt that you will be happy with the HD2 battery performance (based on your usage)
im sure you're aware there are many threads re: the poor battery issue, personally i use my phone much more conservatively than you do & struggle to get more than 1 days use (usually 30% charge remaining by the end of the day).
i mostly use edge (switch to 3g if i want to download large email attachments/ web files or watch online vids)
all updates are manual & wifi & bluetooth switched off.
i decided to stop worrying about the battery some time ago & invested in 2 spare batteries. its not ideal but in this case i think the pros of the HD2 out weight the cons.
probably not what you wanted to hear, but this has been my experience, maybe someone can offer more positive feedback.
however if you like winmo, im sure you wont be disappointed with this excellent phone.
all the best.

battery extender
you could try a battery extender like the just mobile gum pro that i recently bought for UK £33 shipped. it's Li-ion with a capacity of 4400mAh, sufficient to fully recharge my hd2 2-3 times from flat without the inconvenience of having to pop the back and soft reset the phone as you would swapping in a spare hd2 battery.

wow, sorry to say this but hd2 is no match for your usage

theabsurdman said:
you could try a battery extender like the just mobile gum pro that i recently bought for UK £33 shipped. it's Li-ion with a capacity of 4400mAh, sufficient to fully recharge my hd2 2-3 times from flat without the inconvenience of having to pop the back and soft reset the phone as you would swapping in a spare hd2 battery.
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that is interesting. How long does it take to recharge the phone???

See this thread
Hi,
Take a look at this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718173
I regularly get more than 48 hours out of my battery but then I down listen to music much and definitely not via bluetooth so I have no idea how that would affect battery life.
I dow however use my phone a lot for reading ebooks which mean the screens on for extended periods and I still get to 48 hours +.
I'm busy transferring audio books to my phone so will be able to report back soon about extended periods of audio listening but that will be with the wired headset.
Regards

nrfitchett4 said:
that is interesting. How long does it take to recharge the phone???
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similar to the mains charger -- a couple of hours, and you can use the phone while it's charging (albeit slowing the charge rate). note: this is using the htc-supplied sync cable to charge which might be limiting the current draw to 500mA. the gum pro is rated for 1000mA output and i've just ordered a mini-to micro- usb adaptor with the data lines shorted which apparently fools the phone into thinking a mains charger is connected so that it may draw more current and charge faster still.
i forgot to mention before that the gum pro is relatively small and light -- think the weight of a pack of cards and about 2/3rds the size.

I do;
30min calls a day
1hr wifi router
30+min video playback
20 reminders a day (sound n vibrate)
All net updates every 30min (twitter, 3 emails, weather)
6am off charger - 6pm back on charger and usually has 40-50% battery life...
I reckon the HD2 would come close to your needs but there would be no margin for error. If it did what you asked the battery would die doing it...

I don't get people who want a phone to last 2-3 days...
I mean, don't people sleep at least a few hours everyday (during which the phone could recharge)?

argentocruz said:
I do;
30min calls a day
1hr wifi router
30+min video playback
20 reminders a day (sound n vibrate)
All net updates every 30min (twitter, 3 emails, weather)
6am off charger - 6pm back on charger and usually has 40-50% battery life...
I reckon the HD2 would come close to your needs but there would be no margin for error. If it did what you asked the battery would die doing it...
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It's a very good battery life you have there. I guess it would fit my needs.
BTW, you are on Telstra operator, right? If I'm not wrong, Telstra has 3G 850mhz. Wouldn't this better battery life?

[Q] Battery Life

So I bought a Venue Pro and I'm loving it! However, after a full charge, hours later in the battery info under settings the battery life falls very fast and says 2 hours left. Is there anyway to fix this? Thanks in advance!

I found out the answer myself. Unless you charge it from the computer it will not show you correct battery life or it doesn't charge properly. One of the two.

I thought I had solved it but no, it just charged slower and the battery I'd going equally fast. Can someone please give me a solution? Thanks

i think you simply have a bad battery.
DVP in general charges pretty fast, one hour on PC USB (500mA max) gets you a full charge.

weatherx said:
i think you simply have a bad battery.
DVP in general charges pretty fast, one hour on PC USB (500mA max) gets you a full charge.
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hmm 1 hour on PC USB? Mine takes close to 3-4 hours for full charge. My battery lasts 1 day with moderate usage. So could it be that my DVP battery is bad too?

Either you have a bad battery, or maybe it's still being calibrated?
I bought a used DVP, and the battery on it lasts a whole day on moderate usage, and almost 2 days on light usage.

khara said:
... and the battery on it lasts a whole day on moderate usage, and almost 2 days on light usage.
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Same here.

khara said:
DVP, and the battery on it lasts a whole day on moderate usage, and almost 2 days on light usage.
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Same here.

My battery takes 4 hours for full charge via PC and finishes to zero in 5 hours. I charged it 100% this morning, disconnected it, put it on lock screen and I've just come home and the battery has fallen to 42% even though it was on lock screen. I always keep my screen on low brightness. Will my battery calibrate in a week or do I have to buy a new battery?

Oh and I am a VERY light user. My phone isn't unlocked so I don't use cellular connection. I simply message my friends on WhatsApp and browse the web a little. Battery just fell 2% again.

The battery life is crap, thats basically it. Had several devices, none of them could last a day without basically no usage at all. Best to get used to charging it whenever you can or get a spare battery.

Hmm other users are saying theirs last almost 2 days with light usage and I don't even use cellular and it dies extremely fast! The battery life may suck but no device will kill a battery like my DVP is doing right now.If my battery is bad should I buy one of these and which one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BATTERY-D...808?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2a0f77e3f0
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-O...340?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3f115330f4

Sadly none of those look legit, the second one has the incorrect wattage (actuall 1400mah) and the first one claims the battery will also fit the Venue, which I think is incorrect. Try contacting the sellers to confirm compatibility and if they will accept returns for a refund.

It comes with a 12 month warranty and and returns accepted if there is a fault. Even if it isn't original will it last and solve the problem I have?

If you can return it, buy it and test it. Only way to know if that will fix your problem. Only other thing I can think of is doing a hard reset and seeing how the device performs with few or no apps installed.

Hmm that seems like the only way. I've already messaged the seller asking him if his battery will fix it and then if it doesn't I will return it. By the way I don't think a hard reset would work as the device was doing this from the first time. Also I already did a hard reset once to change the SD card and it still goes as fast. Thanks for all your help guys.

efjay said:
The battery life is crap, thats basically it. Had several devices, none of them could last a day without basically no usage at all. Best to get used to charging it whenever you can or get a spare battery.
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DVP's battery life is not the best, but as a heavy user I can make 18-22 hours without charging (lot of phone calls, 20-40 incoming e-mails / 1 account, refresh every 15 minute/, no push), which is quite good (of course not a BB 9700 .

I messaged the seller and told him about my problem to which he replied the battery he's selling will fix it, if not I can return it. And 22 hours is quite good battery life. I charged my DVP 100% this morning and went to school. I had no cellular connection so I didn't make any calls or texts and had WiFi off with screen on lowest brightness. I played 5 minutes of movies, took 5 pictures and played 5 minutes of games. When I came home I was down to 30%. A mate of mine suggested I should let my battery die completely then charge it up and do it a few times and that fixes it as he has a blackberry 9900 and he had my problem when he had his phone brand new and after going what he told me for 4 days his battery works fine now. So ill try what my mate told me and if it doesn't work by Saturday I'll order my new battery.

Btw battery fell from 100% to 0% in 9 hours.

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DVP's battery life is not the best, but as a heavy user I can make 18-22 hours without charging (lot of phone calls, 20-40 incoming e-mails / 1 account, refresh every 15 minute/, no push), which is quite good (of course not a BB 9700 .
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I bought my first DVP back in December 2010, exchanged it a few times before the wifi crashing bug was fixed, beta tested the fix for the crashing, and on none of those devices has the battery been able to last a day. That's been my experience, with normal usage.