WinMo 6.5 vs 6.5.x and further up - HD2 General

Hi there,
Could someone explain to me what's the big advantage of 6.5.x over 6.5? The only thing I can see is RSS feeds on the home tab and a few screen-space-taking huge buttons on the bottom (Start, etc).
Yes, I could flash a rom with 6.5.x and give it a go, but I prefer not to flash this device too often and read some opinions from you guys and gals experts on the matter, before I'll backup everything, hard reset and re-install and re-configure and... ;-)
Aren't those huge buttons on the bottom annoying? Surely there must be some advantage? Or are there any features you can't live without with WinMo 6.5.x, which can't be found on the 6.5?

dusdus said:
Hi there,
Could someone explain to me what's the big advantage of 6.5.x over 6.5? The only thing I can see is RSS feeds on the home tab and a few screen-space-taking huge buttons on the bottom (Start, etc).
Yes, I could flash a rom with 6.5.x and give it a go, but I prefer not to flash this device too often and read some opinions from you guys and gals experts on the matter, before I'll backup everything, hard reset and re-install and re-configure and... ;-)
Aren't those huge buttons on the bottom annoying? Surely there must be some advantage? Or are there any features you can't live without with WinMo 6.5.x, which can't be found on the 6.5?
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6.5.x is finger friendly, bigger menus, scroll bars, buttons. The Start menu is moved to the bottom and the HTC Messenger client for SMS is reverted to the 6.5.x stock, which does take some getting used to, but there is a nice mod for it that makes it look like so...
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Other than that there is no difference, but I can assure you once you flash a 6.5.x ROM, I doubt you'll want to revert to 6.5.

thanks a lot for your reply!
Maybe I just should try it. I´ve downloaded Miri´s 6.5.x rom, heard some good reviews about it.
What´s the mod you´re using called? I''ll search for it, in case I don't like the messaging client.

dusdus said:
thanks a lot for your reply!
Maybe I just should try it. I´ve downloaded Miri´s 6.5.x rom, heard some good reviews about it.
What´s the mod you´re using called? I''ll search for it, in case I don't like the messaging client.
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It's called Kimi Sae Ireba's Speech Bubbles mod, but I don't know if it is released as a cab as of yet. It is currently bundled with NRG's Energy ROMs so that's how I have it.

There is a hardware button for windows start menu in HD2. Hence the most important advantage of 6.5.x doesn't matter.

Hihi, I was just browsing NRG's thread. I've used his roms on my old Touch HD.
Ah hell with it, I'll flash 'm both... ;-)

kuwait said:
There are hardware button for windows start menu. Hence the most important advantage of 6.5.x doesn't matter.
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that's what I was thinking. Still, going to try and see it. I realised that during running an application you won't see the buttons anyway

kuwait said:
There is a hardware button for windows start menu in HD2. Hence the most important advantage of 6.5.x doesn't matter.
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dusdus said:
that's what I was thinking. Still, going to try and see it. I realised that during running an application you won't see the buttons anyway
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Isn't the advantage of the start menu on the bottom to free up more space on the top for icons?

kuwait said:
There is a hardware button for windows start menu in HD2. Hence the most important advantage of 6.5.x doesn't matter.
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Well the "X" button is now at the bottom-right, so there's still an advantage. It's definitely easier to tap the "X" at the bottom-right than the top-right of the screen.
............
Also, I'm not sure about the whole taskbar "takes up more screen space" thing. The top taskbar in WM6.5.x is thinner than the top taskbar in WM6.5. The bottom taskbar in WM6.5.x is thicker than the bottom taskbar in WM6.5. Just think of it as the screen shifting upwards in WM6.5.x.

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Htc touch hd new way of answering calls

For the 70% of our readership who still care about this device, we have a small tidbit of news. In line with its new full-screen button-minimalist design, the HTC Touch HD eschews the usual phone answer and end call buttons (though vestigial versions still exist on the device) for a new on screen phone call answering system using two adjacent sliders.
The system is similar to the iPhone, but goes one further. To answer a phone call you slide to the left, to ignore it one simply slides to the right. The interface will be present on HTC’s other new Touch series devices too, like the HTC Touch Viva for example.
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so , my waiting start to see it in my device..
assuming you have a qvga device, it's been done for ages now. download opalcanvas dialer. i'm using kidnamedalbert's carbon skin for it
Do you have a link for the OpalCanvas dialer? I have searched the forums and I am unable to find one...
see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430354
my device is prophet..and it did not install on it
Try gullum's rom...
lordsinasina said:
my device is prophet..and it did not install on it
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If you try gullum's rom here, you will find it working for our Prophet.
Hope it was usefull.
Any hopes of seeing it on VGA (i.e. on Diamond/Pro)?
Lawliet said:
Any hopes of seeing it on VGA (i.e. on Diamond/Pro)?
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hum I tought this was already in the diamond and pro because the first version I used was a mixture of the opal images and the pro regs.
I feel this design is ergonomically incorrect for 90% of people. I am right handed, i usually pick up the phone with my right hand and thus would be easier for me to slide my thumb to the right to answer, left to ignore since i ignore very few calls. (See the slide to answer feature of S2U2) no?
Ari
arigold1 said:
I feel this design is ergonomically incorrect for 90% of people. I am right handed, i usually pick up the phone with my right hand and thus would be easier for me to slide my thumb to the right to answer, left to ignore since i ignore very few calls. (See the slide to answer feature of S2U2) no?
Ari
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But the default layout for most phones is:
Answer on left, Hang Up on right.... think about it.
Well, any chance of seeing it on VGA or not?
worx like a charm on my ELF..
lots of missing images and the slide down thingie does not work.. had to hard reset twice to remove the files..
lordsinasina said:
For the 70% of our readership who still care about this device, we have a small tidbit of news. In line with its new full-screen button-minimalist design, the HTC Touch HD eschews the usual phone answer and end call buttons (though vestigial versions still exist on the device) for a new on screen phone call answering system using two adjacent sliders.
The system is similar to the iPhone, but goes one further. To answer a phone call you slide to the left, to ignore it one simply slides to the right. The interface will be present on HTC’s other new Touch series devices too, like the HTC Touch Viva for example.
so , my waiting start to see it in my device..
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Hmm looks like A_C is thinking this too...
http://www.ac-s2.com/
kristoff_sz said:
But the default layout for most phones is:
Answer on left, Hang Up on right.... think about it.
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Granted, but I'm forced to agree that it's erognomically incorrect. This isnt a button. Different interface, different expectations of how to interact with it.
AJ
How does it work on ELF or ELFin?
tuuquy said:
How does it work on ELF or ELFin?
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yes, it is working on my ELFIN! I like it very much!
could not get it to work on the vogue. anyone else have luck?
Yea implemented a long time ago i think its called the opal dialer
rexypow said:
yes, it is working on my ELFIN! I like it very much!
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Can you share me for downloading in another link? I tried, but couldn't download it from 4share.
Thanks a lot.

HTC Full compact keyboard

hi all
i am looking for the old style keyboard.
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one that looks like this but with the numbers on top as well.
i am using energy Rom 2.1 manila win 6.5
does anyone have a cab file.
thanks for your help
neoculture said:
hi all
i am looking for the old style keyboard.
one that looks like this but with the numbers on top as well.
i am using energy Rom 2.1 manila win 6.5
does anyone have a cab file.
thanks for your help
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I want this too
CAVEGIANT said:
I want this too
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Go to Settings>Personal>Input
Select "Keyboard" as your input method and select small keys. Then press OK.
The picture you showed is actually the traditional old school keyboard with large keys, so the numerical keys are hidden. Select small keys and they should be back up.
Cheers
abubakar said:
Go to Settings>Personal>Input
Select "Keyboard" as your input method and select small keys. Then press OK.
The picture you showed is actually the traditional old school keyboard with large keys, so the numerical keys are hidden. Select small keys and they should be back up.
Cheers
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I am using Energy Rom and i think it has finger keyboard installed, i have tried the setting you have mentioned but it still shows as finger keyboard.
its the old school keyboard i want as a cab file if anyone has it.
the same problem
In the new roms with sense 2,5 etc is this keyboard also missing.
neoculture said:
hi all
i am looking for the old style keyboard.
one that looks like this but with the numbers on top as well.
i am using energy Rom 2.1 manila win 6.5
does anyone have a cab file.
thanks for your help
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I don't have a cab but just to clarify, the one you want is not the HTC Full compact keyboard, it is the stock Microsoft Windows Mobile keyboard.
dwizzy130
i iam using SPB Full Screen Keyboard v3.0.1!
its transforming all the screen to the keyboard!!!
Or use Resco Keyboard Pro
Just don't understand why no one help us ?!?!
Please, someone make a cab with the winmo qwerty keyboard!!!
in Resco Keyboard Pro you've got that skin
I want this one too!!!
i have this keyboard in the rom i'm usin'.
but,windows mobile 6.1
if someone tell me where,i can try to look in the .nbh file....
onesolo said:
Just don't understand why no one help us ?!?!
Please, someone make a cab with the winmo qwerty keyboard!!!
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Ok, responding to myself, I just found how to have this keyboard again!!
Apparently the keyboard is there all the time, at least in the roms that I've tested but the cookers don't enable it!!!
On the other day, accidentally I saw a cab on the Cloudy's rom that was to enable the "old" M$ keyboard.
I was (and I'm still) not using Cloudy's rom but decide to try if it works. Install it and puff there it was in all is glory!!!
Here is the link for that cab,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5410858&postcount=278
Many thkx to Cloudy for this one and a hands down to the rest of the cookers for hiding this feature. Worst than hiding is not to give a cab for this as I many times asked for it...
Fifty thumbs up. I've even posted a thread asking for this months ago. Just did a hard reset and decided to try my luck.
I have been in hell with the other keyboards. This is the missing piece for me.
Cheers to cloud and you, OP.

Bring on Windows Mobile 6.5.3 (Major Updates)

Very surprised to see the updated feature list for Win Mobile 6.5.3, as already installed on the new SE Aspen. Hope this will be available for the HD2soon.
•Capacitive touchscreen support
•Platform to enable multitouch
•Touch controls throughout system (no need for stylus)
•Consistent Navigation
•Horizontal scroll bar replaces tabs (think settings>system>about screen)
•Magnifier brings touch support to legacy applications
•Simplified out-of-box experience with fewer steps
•Drag and drop icons on Start Screen
•(Mobile) Internet Explorer Page load time decreased
•IE Memory management improved
•IE Pan & flick gestures smoothed
•IE Zoom & rotation speed increased
•Updated runtime tools (.NET CF 3.5, SQL CE 3.1)
•Arabic read/write document support
•Watson (error reporting) improvements and bug fixes
Hopefully we'll see this present in HTC's HD2 ROM version 2.x
Already available for custom ROM users
Not sure whether they'll update to 6.5.3. Maybe they'll go straight to 7.
Anyway, if you want WM6.5.3 now, you can get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534
Make sure you read all the tutorials, before you do anything with your device. And don't ask questions before you've read everything.
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does the cooked roms have the full WM6.5.3 features?
Yes-------
sorry just fort it might be like how apple update to the devs (hold key features untill its out)
thanks away
I have to say this: The Phone, etc. buttons are horrible. They make me want to vomit just by looking at them. They give a cheap look to the entire interface. A step in the wrong direction. I hope there is a way to remove them and go back to the minimal, and slicker options.
donalgodon said:
I have to say this: The Phone, etc. buttons are horrible. They make me want to vomit just by looking at them. They give a cheap look to the entire interface. A step in the wrong direction. I hope there is a way to remove them and go back to the minimal, and slicker options.
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They're just images, and they're referenced in registry values, so you can easily change or just delete them.
xelon999 said:
Very surprised to see the updated feature list for Win Mobile 6.5.3, as already installed on the new SE Aspen. Hope this will be available for the HD2soon.
•Arabic read/write document support
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at last windows mobile support arabic
6.5.3 is pretty much what 6.5 should've been
kinda vista and win 7 ^^
I hate 6.5.3 Windows Button at the Button -.- just eats Space... It should stay were it was...
I will only update because I hope for better multitouch coding
I'm not a fan of 6.5.3 due to the giant buttons at the bottom, though it looks very promising when i tried it out a few weeks ago.
lude219 said:
I'm not a fan of 6.5.3 due to the giant buttons at the bottom, though it looks very promising when i tried it out a few weeks ago.
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i totally agree, im not liking the big ass buttons. having them at the bottom is nice, but it just looks stupid.
is it possible to shrink them a-la 6.5 style?
g.lewarne said:
i totally agree, im not liking the big ass buttons. having them at the bottom is nice, but it just looks stupid.
is it possible to shrink them a-la 6.5 style?
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johncmolyneux said:
They're just images, and they're referenced in registry values, so you can easily change or just delete them.
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Yeah. Read the whole thread
g.lewarne said:
i totally agree, im not liking the big ass buttons. having them at the bottom is nice, but it just looks stupid.
is it possible to shrink them a-la 6.5 style?
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Or better yet, keep 6.5 buttons and update everything else to 6.5.3.
johncmolyneux said:
Yeah. Read the whole thread
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yeah i saw that, but its not very explicit in whats involved in the process.
honestly, i think most cookers would only need to concentrate on the latest WM builds rather than legacy 6.5 builds, as what seem to put most people off 6.5.x is the big ass buttons. If the cookers shrank them and made them less ugly, im sure it would make things better for everybody?
Voice Control?
Does 6.5.3 address lack of voice control ?

[IDEA][6.5] Start menu Grid

Hello,
The Hexagon grid in WM 6.5 I think is very disorganized. So my idea is to change the grid of the start menu.
Iv'e made a image in paint to show my idea. (sorry for the crappy ms paint work.)
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Can some one realize this? I would love to see this on my diamond.
Thanks in advance!
I think you need to modify the StartMenu_GridScene_480x640.cpr. Open it with notepad and modify it.
Söderström said:
I think you need to modify the StartMenu_GridScene_480x640.cpr. Open it with notepad and modify it.
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Yeah, I thought so. But that's my problem. I don't know how, and I hoped someone with experience with the files could modify it.
casklaverstijn said:
my idea is
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this is desire of many people...
BUT it is not solved in present time...
If you modify it in your *.cpr-file (HexagonGrid="TRUE" to HexagonGrid="FALSE"), your start menu will cease to work
I have tried some times ago, but with no luck!
ope someone could make it work!
I read somewhere that it's (nearly) impossible to do it, the script that's responsible for the hexagon layout is hidden in a DLL.
As far as I know, a reasonable compromise is if you use the folderview.exe from HTC (it's usually there if touchflo is installed).
littld said:
As far as I know, a reasonable compromise is if you use the folderview.exe from HTC (it's usually there if touchflo is installed).
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yer, but is not divided in folder...
casklaverstijn said:
Hello,
The Hexagon grid in WM 6.5 I think is very disorganized. So my idea is to change the grid of the start menu.
Iv'e made a image in paint to show my idea. (sorry for the crappy ms paint work.)
Can some one realize this? I would love to see this on my diamond.
Thanks in advance!
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I like the idea. It will be better if the start menu can organize by page so that same catagory of apps can group together...
i think it would be easier if it is possible, pushing the start button to open up a new program with shortcuts, similar to that. Correct me if i m wrong.
hi, i like that Start menu Grid. I'm using HTC imagio and that Start menu is in my ship rom but when i flashed a customed rom, there isnt that start menu grid anymore. Hope someone can improve that
+1
I like that idea, in fact I was asking about it in HD2 section - but no luck
I also tried to modify the .crp but no luck either.
Would be really nice to have it!
still no one ?...
I really hope a developer sees this. We see allot of start menu modifications like lists. But i havent seen this normal grid menu!
Until it's developped (if so) you all can use "iPhone Today" instead. Also it's faster/smoother than WM Startmenu.
Also, some way to scroll horizontally
I was thinking of the same idea... and with the ability to scroll horizontally...this would exactly look like the iPhone...
If this can be worked out by some expert chef.... we won't need any application to give it a iPhone like feel.....
Also, i think the earlier ROM's had horizontally aligned programs.... so its not new... just that it needs to be implemented in newer ROMs.
I am very much interested in this .....
It will be good if it can catagorize the pages (with header). With that we choose to remove the sense to save ~30m of memory.
Bump, anyone?
Definately interested in this. What I think would be better is a sense version of the start menu to totally hide the win mo look. It should look just like the program screen when you tap on a quick link to choose an ap from the program screen. Cookie should feature a cookie start menu into cookies home tab 1.81
tboy2000 said:
Definately interested in this. What I think would be better is a sense version of the start menu to totally hide the win mo look. It should look just like the program screen when you tap on a quick link to choose an ap from the program screen. Cookie should feature a cookie start menu into cookies home tab 1.81
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Tboy,
I was about to say or thinking the same exact thing...

I-mate jasjam best rom

hello everybody. I have just bought imate jasjam and need best stable fast rom for my device. please give me link. thanks.
tsotne90 said:
hello everybody. I have just bought imate jasjam and need best stable fast rom for my device. please give me link. thanks.
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its down to personal choice but i find the full version of this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364031
suits me good its fast stable and iv had zero problems with it but granted its windows mobile 6.1 now there are a few 6.5.x roms but i find these slow and sluggish yes they look better
but this combined with SPB.Mobile.Shell.v3.5.3.Build.9885 (background img is not included this is one i found) is DOPE!
heres how mine looks after i customized it to suit me
DEFAULT PAGE (home)
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
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"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
SLIDE LEFT (tools)
SLIDE RIGHT FROM DEFAULT PAGE (apps)
then if you press the highlighted button you get a carousel like this
IF YOU WANT TO NO ANY MORE INFO PM ME!!!
hope this helps
paul
chunk1982 said:
its down to personal choice but i find the full version of this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364031
suits me good its fast stable and iv had zero problems with it but granted its windows mobile 6.1 now there are a few 6.5.x roms but i find these slow and sluggish yes they look better
but this combined with SPB.Mobile.Shell.v3.5.3.Build.9885 (background img is not included this is one i found) is DOPE!
heres how mine looks after i customized it to suit me
DEFAULT PAGE (home)
SLIDE LEFT (tools)
SLIDE RIGHT FROM DEFAULT PAGE (apps)
then if you press the highlighted button you get a carousel like this
IF YOU WANT TO NO ANY MORE INFO PM ME!!!
hope this helps
paul
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thank you very much, but I need windows mobile 6.5
chunk1982 said:
its down to personal choice but i find the full version of this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364031
suits me good its fast stable and iv had zero problems with it but granted its windows mobile 6.1 now there are a few 6.5.x roms but i find these slow and sluggish yes they look better
but this combined with SPB.Mobile.Shell.v3.5.3.Build.9885 (background img is not included this is one i found) is DOPE!
heres how mine looks after i customized it to suit me
DEFAULT PAGE (home)
SLIDE LEFT (tools)
SLIDE RIGHT FROM DEFAULT PAGE (apps)
then if you press the highlighted button you get a carousel like this
IF YOU WANT TO NO ANY MORE INFO PM ME!!!
hope this helps
paul
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Ill give it a try , Btw, here are 6.5 builts for hermes http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509194&page=2 just read
tsotne90 said:
hello everybody. I have just bought imate jasjam and need best stable fast rom for my device. please give me link. thanks.
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hey thts right..........
Hi all, new here and interested in an answer to one of my favorite questions:
Which ROM?
I have: iMate JasJam Telstra Aus edition, currently running BlackSatin WM6 I put on it years ago. I just loaded Hard SPL 7 on it this morning.
I loaded SPB Shell on it today and was impressed. I'm still tossing up investing some time in the 'ol jasjam for a second phone....
So I'm interested in running SPB on WM 6.5 rather than 6.0/6.1 as I loath using the stylus and am curious if it will run ok on this old phone.
There are a heap of ROMs I see here, many are from 2007/8/9. What's a popular version I can install that's "current" I guess but not next to impossible to install? Maybe a couple of suggestions I can try then just in case I get stuck.
Worst case scenario I'll keep playing with what I have that's working. Thanks!
Managed to install CRC 6.1 on it. Wasn't happy with 6.1 so I went to something called:
FOR_TESTING_PURPOSE_ONLY_WP6.5_23047_STD.7z
Works fine, sticking with that. The other popular versions on here wouldn't install. I had HardSPL installed but still didn't install.

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