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Andriod 2.2 (Froyo) For Aria???

Does anyone has a clue about when Froyo will be available for Aria?

I'm not holding my breath for update from AT&T!

saint168 said:
I'm not holding my breath for update from AT&T!
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I am hoping we'll be able to port the Legend Rom with a great deal of success once it is available. I will be looking into an unbranded 2.1 Legend ROM port for the Aria next.

eh it was just released... wouldn't expect to hear about a 2.2 release for at least a few months probably more.

Froyo hasn't even been officially released yet. after that, HTC will need to port SenseUi for it. HTC did say all 2.1 devices released this year should expect a 2.2 update.

Probably not until AT&T figures out how to remove tethering from it.

ryusen said:
Froyo hasn't even been officially released yet. after that, HTC will need to port SenseUi for it. HTC did say all 2.1 devices released this year should expect a 2.2 update.
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As saint168 said, I wouldn't hold your breath. What will happen is HTC will say "we expect a Froyo update for the Aria by Christmas!" and then the day before Christmas they will say "We expect a Froyo update for the Aria by the end of February!" and then we won't see an update except in Taiwan in June.
I am going by the official Eclair update for the GSM Hero of course.
attn1 brought up a factor, as most likely we will be seeing mostly stable 2.2 Roms within the next six months or so for the Aria that will probably make the frustrations of any promised official update increase.

Shad0wguy said:
Probably not until AT&T figures out how to remove tethering from it.
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Or perhaps not remove it outright, but to figure out how to make it billable to the tune of extra $20 per month on top of "DataPro" data plan, as they've done it with iPhone 4/iOS4.

Android 2.2 Froyo will definitely for Aria but i don't count on AT&T. I want a clean Froyo and not At&T B.S. in there

jaex said:
Android 2.2 Froyo will definitely for Aria but i don't count on AT&T. I want a clean Froyo and not At&T B.S. in there
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cyanogen has said he's porting to the MT3GS, which is nearly identical to the Aria. That WILL be ported to the Aria.
AOSP Froyo 2.2 - cyanogen style. Everyone and their all their brothers will be taking a crack at that port - including me.

attn1 said:
cyanogen has said he's porting to the MT3GS, which is nearly identical to the Aria. That WILL be ported to the Aria.
AOSP Froyo 2.2 - cyanogen style. Everyone and their all their brothers will be taking a crack at that port - including me.
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Will this be a dump of the official update for the MT3GS or is there a port that's being used. Also, if this is a pre-existing port then what kind of features should we expect to not work by the time it hits Aria (like camera, 3D acceleration, gps, and sound)?
By the way ... my Aria is now in my state so hopefully will be playing with it in an hour or two.

sentinel79 said:
Will this be a dump of the official update for the MT3GS or is there a port that's being used. Also, if this is a pre-existing port then what kind of features should we expect to not work by the time it hits Aria (like camera, 3D acceleration, gps, and sound)?
By the way ... my Aria is now in my state so hopefully will be playing with it in an hour or two.
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The MT3GS and Aria are very closely related. HTC does not do AOSP roms - they add their proprietary HTC sense stuff. If you want that, it will take some time for HTC to release a stable version for either the MT3GS or the Aria.
AOSP means Android Open Source Project based - and that means no HTC Sense UI. The Nexus One runs pure AOSP, which personally, I prefer. cyanogenmods are all AOSP based, but are generally better in terms of features and performance.
cyanogenmod 6.x will be based on Android 2.2 AOSP code, and is being built and in limited testing now. It will be released for a half dozen phones almost simultaneously - and soon. Once something is working for the MT3GS, it will be a very short time before it is ported to the Aria.

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The MT3GS and Aria are very closely related. HTC does not do AOSP roms - they add their proprietary HTC sense stuff. If you want that, it will take some time for HTC to release a stable version for either the MT3GS or the Aria.
AOSP means Android Open Source Project based - and that means no HTC Sense UI. The Nexus One runs pure AOSP, which personally, I prefer. cyanogenmods are all AOSP based, but are generally better in terms of features and performance.
cyanogenmod 6.x will be based on Android 2.2 AOSP code, and is being built and in limited testing now. It will be released for a half dozen phones almost simultaneously - and soon. Once something is working for the MT3GS, it will be a very short time before it is ported to the Aria.
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Man this is like night and day coming from the Xandroid community (new android features seem to take months to develop).
I too prefer AOSP which I used on the Xandroid builds (tested on my Pure) and I had Launcher Pro installed which I think is LEAGUES better than Sense.
I'm extremely excited to learn more about flashing android roms. Don't know anything about it yet but I saw Aria's already been rooted.
I do appreciate the WVGA of the Pure but this Aria really isn't THAT different in quality (seems more colorful though). Gotta get a screen protector from AT&T ... will have to wade through crowds of iPhone sheep no doubt.

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AOSP means Android Open Source Project based - and that means no HTC Sense UI. The Nexus One runs pure AOSP, which personally, I prefer. cyanogenmods are all AOSP based, but are generally better in terms of features and performance.
cyanogenmod 6.x will be based on Android 2.2 AOSP code, and is being built and in limited testing now. It will be released for a half dozen phones almost simultaneously - and soon. Once something is working for the MT3GS, it will be a very short time before it is ported to the Aria.
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When you say ported, does that mean I can rewrite my phone replacing Sense? Because I don't just want to have Froyo AND Sense and just have sense disabled and hiding in the background.

hocplyr98 said:
When you say ported, does that mean I can rewrite my phone replacing Sense? Because I don't just want to have Froyo AND Sense and just have sense disabled and hiding in the background.
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I think you're confusing Android 2.2 (FroYo) with HTC's user interface (Sense).
cyanogenmod is based on pure AOSP code - no Sense UI.
I just completed a port of a MyTouch3G rom to the Aria. Wifi doesn't work, and my touch keys don't work. I am sure those are simple fixes. Eugene probably has answers to some of those issues, but it stands to reason that when CM 6 is released for the MTS3G, we can begin work on a port for the Liberty (Aria).

Froyo runs... it's just a matter of someone who knows what they're doing fixing all of the drivers and a few other things.
big file here

CM6 is coming soon I think!
"release later this weekend" ... running out of time but this is exciting.
http://androidspin.com/2010/06/25/sneak-peek-at-cyanogenmod-cm6-test-build-on-g1-and-nexus/

So what does the release of CM6 mean for us?

attn1 said:
The MT3GS and Aria are very closely related. HTC does not do AOSP roms - they add their proprietary HTC sense stuff. If you want that, it will take some time for HTC to release a stable version for either the MT3GS or the Aria.
AOSP means Android Open Source Project based - and that means no HTC Sense UI. The Nexus One runs pure AOSP, which personally, I prefer. cyanogenmods are all AOSP based, but are generally better in terms of features and performance.
cyanogenmod 6.x will be based on Android 2.2 AOSP code, and is being built and in limited testing now. It will be released for a half dozen phones almost simultaneously - and soon. Once something is working for the MT3GS, it will be a very short time before it is ported to the Aria.
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jznomoney- Read that

Sorry. Wrong thread.

Need some guidance/info.. Help!!!

I currently have a htc evo, but im thinking of getting a epic.. I just can't have a phone for 2 long..lol.. I had it since launch date.. Now I would like some info on how the dev support is over here such as the best roms and kernels and is it easy to root.. Could you please share your experience with the epic (roms/kernels) and pros and cons would be great.. Thanks..
By the way the gpu on the epic is what is really making me want to switch
Sent From My Htc Evo!!!

jayv1717 said:
I currently have a htc evo, but im thinking of getting a epic.. I just can't have a phone for 2 long..lol.. I had it since launch date.. Now I would like some info on how the dev support is over here such as the best roms and kernels and is it easy to root.. Could you please share your experience with the epic (roms/kernels) and pros and cons would be great.. Thanks..
By the way the gpu on the epic is what is really making me want to switch
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Rooting is extremely easy..I mean you can even use z4root app if you want to..otherwise we got 1 click root + clockwork..
As for development...its ok, no where as big as the EVO, but EVO has been out longer and people are more familiar with HTC..overall though its getting there..Cyanogen mod is in the works and some night builds are out..
We have a few roms to choose from, as for kernels..right now most of our custom kernels are for Eclair only..as we are waiting for them to release Froyo and with it comes source code (unlike HTC, Samsung releases source within a day or so)...
There are a few developments going on for building the kernel from scratch as well...
I think cyanogan team is working on making a universal kernal for all sgs devices so that we can use the other sgs stuff..(at least thats what I heard I might be mistaken)
Also we have a tool called Odin...which effectively makes our phones "almost" unbrickable...as its a tool used by Samsung themselves to flash roms..

Dev support is great. We should be getting cm6 rather soon as there are really just a few things left to fix and that will of course be the best rom. People running nightlies have been saying they're getting like 1400+ scores in quadrant so it'll be lightning fast.
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wait I forgot the epic isn't on froyo yet, but 1400+ on 2.1 is just crazy.. What setup are you guys using?
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That was just one report of someone running a nightly of cm6. I mean the raw power is there but we'll have to see.
Also I believe cm is being developed on dk28 which is a leaked froyo build
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I just put cm6 on my phone and got a 1693 in quadrant so ya. Cm6 is fast.
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I would be hesitant to move to the epic for the simple reason that samsung can't seem to get a timely update out and this limits what the developers can accomplish. At this point I wonder if samsung will release android 2.3 for the epic. With out an official release and the source code that goes with it, it is unlikely that we will see custom kernels for it.
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Just put a pure AOSP rom on my hero

K I was bored and decided to put gingerbread on my hero to see what it was like since we don't got it on the epic, and instead I found a "pure aosp" rom that the developer built from the ground up using straight google code...and it runs and looks beautiful and only has stock apps+spare parts and ran snappy on my hero runnin at 528mhz (I CBA to find an ovrclocked kernel a the time)
So I was wondering..........how hard would it b to build a pure aosp rom? Not cm...just pure aosp?
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A_Flying_Fox said:
K I was bored and decided to put gingerbread on my hero to see what it was like since we don't got it on the epic, and instead I found a "pure aosp" rom that the developer built from the ground up using straight google code...and it runs and looks beautiful and only has stock apps+spare parts and ran snappy on my hero runnin at 528mhz (I CBA to find an ovrclocked kernel a the time)
So I was wondering..........how hard would it b to build a pure aosp rom? Not cm...just pure aosp?
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It would be extremely easy to build a pure AOSP ROM for the Epic 4G.
Now, if you wanted it to work or even install, I couldn't tell you the answer.

The difficult part is reverse engineering the drivers that samsung hasn't given source for. That's what has taken them so long to port CyanogenMod. However, once they have most of the work done, it will be much easier to attempt a pure AOSP rom.

I should've mentioned it was apure 2.2 build...I didn't bother with gb because I realized I'm not getting it anytime soon so I didn't wanna tease myself...but now I'm jealous of straight up pure 2.2
The hero only had 2.1 drivers to work with and the dev built it, so shouldn't it be feasible with the epic 2.1 drivers/sauce given a devoted dev?
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I'm pretty sure there's a ROM that is a pure AOSP...I want to say the Truly Epic ROM but I'm not sure...(ill edit the post for confirmation). Also, just put a request for a FroYo theme in the themes & apps section to see if you can get something at least similar
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A_Flying_Fox said:
I should've mentioned it was apure 2.2 build...I didn't bother with gb because I realized I'm not getting it anytime soon so I didn't wanna tease myself...but now I'm jealous of straight up pure 2.2
The hero only had 2.1 drivers to work with and the dev built it, so shouldn't it be feasible with the epic 2.1 drivers/sauce given a devoted dev?
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They did it, but it took a while. The CM people are giving us a start towards AOSP, but it will take a while. The phone has only been out for 5 months.

5months is a long time when it comes to technological innovations....or at least the ones they release to the public.

acer1096xxx said:
I'm pretty sure there's a ROM that is a pure AOSP...I want to say the Truly Epic ROM but I'm not sure...(ill edit the post for confirmation). Also, just put a request for a FroYo theme in the themes & apps section to see if you can get something at least similar
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There are no roms that are pure aosp for the epic the closest thing we have is CM.I was working on a pure aosp build for a bit maybe I will pick it up again soon we'll see.

[Q] gingerbread?

has anyone heard any more speculation on what phones are gonna get gingerbread?

gingerbread is being skipped and is going to be 2.4 instead of 2.3. Still named gingerbread though. This is what I heard a few weeks back. It makes sense because the Nexus S is full of problems and it's mostly on the software side. Gingerbread is nothing but a themed froyo.

There are a lot less core differences between 2.2 and 2.3 than there were between 2.1 and 2.2. I would think the manufacturers would have an easier time upgrading them and the crapware on it.

Jjday7 said:
gingerbread is being skipped and is going to be 2.4 instead of 2.3. Still named gingerbread though. This is what I heard a few weeks back. It makes sense because the Nexus S is full of problems and it's mostly on the software side. Gingerbread is nothing but a themed froyo.
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Incorrect. There are other phones getting Android 2.3 besides the Nexus S; the Sony Ericsson Xperia Play is, for example. Gingerbread has made quite a few changes to the underlying code & add many nice APIs for app developers to it.

teharchitekt said:
Incorrect. There are other phones getting Android 2.3 besides the Nexus S; the Sony Ericsson Xperia Play is, for example. Gingerbread has made quite a few changes to the underlying code & add many nice APIs for app developers to it.
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True, but, don't know if you noticed that the Nexus One has yet to get an OTA Gingerbread OTA. There's a reason for that. The random rebooting issue could be to blame - but Google for Froyo (such a huge, huge change from 2.1 Eclair) pushed it out to Nexus One users like 2 weeks after announcing it. Huge. Quick.
Gingerbread will probably not come to existing devices. 2.4 (whether it is Ice Cream Sandwich or Gingerbread - who knows/cares) will probably be pushed out first. Don't expect any incremental updates to any existing device yet.
The reason the Xperia Play has 2.3 is because it's out in the AOSP and Sony Ericsson is just choosing to deploy the 2.3 code instead of 2.2. They have the right timeframe and want their device to appeal to the hardcore geeks.
Anyhow, no Gingerbread - especially not for the EVO 4G Shift anytime soon.

I'm hoping for updates to the Shift, i just got it, but i hate knowing there is a newer version somewhere lol

I hate knowing that I got gingerbread working on a 4 year old Windows Mobile phone (HTC Touch/Vogue) and yet it's not officially available for the Evo Shift. I may go AOSP in the future.
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NuAngel said:
I hate knowing that I got gingerbread working on a 4 year old Windows Mobile phone (HTC Touch/Vogue) and yet it's not officially available for the Evo Shift. I may go AOSP in the future.
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AOSP is where it's at.
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Edit: man I'm drunk. That took forever to type.

Noob question: What exactly is aosp and are there any pros as far as roms go?
Sent from my Evo Shift.

Aosp is android open source project, check out the cyanogen/evervolv roms and that's what aosp is

Waht is AOSP
bobtsunam said:
Noob question: What exactly is aosp and are there any pros as far as roms go?
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AOSP is default open source Android. Every manufacturer puts on their own overlay for HTC it is Sense and Motorola is Moto Blur. When you put an AOSP ROM on your phone it will be default android which is normally more efficient and more bare bones. For instance when you might not have all the functionality that you had with your stock setup. Personally I like how in Sense when I have my Google contacts set up in groups Sense se that and carries those groups over to my phone. When I put the evervolve or CM7 on my phone to test it out I lost that.
I don't know all the things that are different with an AOSP ROM but here are the things I have seen:
Contacts
Messaging app
Home Screen
Now I know there are more programs that are operate in the background that are included (just run titanium backup and look at all the ones that start with HTC) but I don't know what they do for the most part.
Also AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project.

I think I'll wait for a stable sense ROM to try gingerbread. I'm pretty sure I tried a bare bones ROM when I rooted my cliq and didn't like it. Definitely like having everything sync'd like contacts and such. Has anyone come up with something spectacular for a modded or themed stock ROM? Guess I could just go look...
Thanks everyone for the help. Really appreciate it.
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[Poll] Whats your favorite os and why?

So we have been blessed with android for almost 3 years now. Out of all the different treats Google has cooked up for us which one has been your favorite and why? For me its kind of a hard question to answer straight forward. A few of you may say this question seems irrelevant but I have a feeling some of the answers may surprise you.
Cupcake/doughnut was my first experience and brought us by far the best battery life.
Eclair kind of began to bring some much needed aesthetics to android.
Froyo gave us the glorious flash!!!!
Gingerbread.... still trying to figure out the point of that update, or at least why its a different version name
Honeycomb could have been the ****, but imho was rushed out way to soon.​

I really liked eclair on the Droid

wheres the option for windows mobile. haha just kidding

Froyo
I started with Froyo as my first Android OS and I loved it coming from Blackberry. Well since GB came out I figured I would give it a try since i've heard alot of good things about it... I've tried it a couple of times now but in the end I always go back to Froyo (mysense).. I know alot of people say it's heavy and slow but the setup I've got thanks to the Royal team it seems no slower than any GB rom i've tried... I like GB ok, if i do decide to stick with GB as my daily driver it will probably be Royal Ginger I really like what they've done with that one...

I have to say that my favorite variant of Android is 2.3 AOSP. B L A Z I N G fast and really slim. Just gets the job done without all of the fluff and puff that others bring.
iOS is nice. I own an iPod Touch. But for a daily driver i cannot live without my Android.

I switched from blackberry and might switch back if they ever make a powerhouse phone withstand he big form factor....the bold touch that should be out soon might be it....I love android....but I love my bold's keyboard even more
MT4G + Royal MIUI + Faux's BFS LV kernel

Eclair was a HUGE improvement over 1.x. Froyo was a big improvement over Eclair. Gingerbread didn't bring significant improvements over Froyo for me that are worth dumping stable Froyo pure Sense (DHD) for funky Gingerbread Sense ports with problems. I want to be able to record videos. So, I guess it's Froyo for me.

Froyo runs the best on my phone

I like stock Froyo on the Droid Incredible 2

I had installed gingerbread on my myTouch 4G and now I have the G2x, and I must say, I miss gingerbread!

I have faux123's aosp gingerbread, its my daily driver as its fast and bloat free.
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I Really Like Gingerbread but we'll see about Ice Cream Sandwich

gbondoc said:
I Really Like Gingerbread but we'll see about Ice Cream Sandwich
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Froyo was nice, a huge update from eclair, but I like the look of gingerbread.
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cnote74 said:
I have faux123's aosp gingerbread, its my daily driver as its fast and bloat free.
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+ 1 here, CM Nexus Gingerbread by faux123 is a great clean rom.