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HA! I really got a kick out of this!

Just a useless thread, but I can't help but share !
So I'm sitting at my desk yesterday at work, with my Touch just sitting out in the open, and along comes a fellow sales rep. He picks up the phone, looks at, and says, "HA! I heard this phone sucks!" I wanted to tell him to f*** off, but we joke around a lot, so I really wasn't pissed. But, I did get a kick out of it. Whoever owns this phone and thinks it sucks, probably shouldn't own this phone, and has no clue of what it can do!

i love the phone i just wish the screen was bigger!

Let me guess, he uses a i****?

mac envy
For those of us who started with DOS and then came this cool mac thing with drop and drag we understand this ibrick envy. thank god for competition because without it windows users would still be typing in **** like C: and not getting a smiley face emoticon. This phone is great (i would say HTC is great). its funny to see the i**** showing how to download 3rd party software as a "new" thing when this phone had that long time ago. now if verizon could get off their tech hiding, lets milk this one out mode...

I too get really tired of reading how badly this phone sucks - mainly on other forums and it's a shame cuz I think this is definetly my favorite phone in a LONG time. Windows Mobile has always been great for me but the past year and a half learning on this forum has helped me and many of my buddies "pimp" lol the crap out of our phones, seriously I am not jealous one bit of an iPOS. Even the ladies think it's bad too... You have all these guys out there that think they know what's up because they downloaded an app on their iPhones and its sooo cool then I pop open my Touch and own em all with all the crap this phone can do.
That's the problem now, though.. now the iTools going to be experts cuz of the "App Store" and will be all over you trying to impress you cuz they can "install appzz on thier iPhones!" OMFG WOW LOLZ!!!!! Shoot me now.

When I first got this phone it did suck.
The stock rom was balls. It was clunky, slow, and half the time incomming calls would not come through due to the phone staying in sleep mode.
Pocket IE is also terrible. It leaves a bad experience after using it for a while.
I can understand why people would give this phone a bad review.
After flashing a custom rom and adding a few 3rd party apps like opera 9.5 this phone is great.

Yea I agree...
When I first heard about this phone coming out I was really excited to see it in action, but when I tried it out at the Sprint store I was highly disappointed and basically opted for a Motorola Q over this phone. The Q was a nice phone while it lasted, but it only lasted me for a little over a year. I started getting excited when I heard the Instinct was coming out and got the "new cell phone itch" all over again. I then heard so many bad reviews of the Instinct and didn't want to switch off my plan (SERO). So I looked into this phone again and found out how crazily you can mod it (thanks to Youtube videos mainly). In my opinion this phone blows both the iPhone and the Instinct wayyyy out of the water. Now i'm wishing I could buy the Diamond when it comes out...but I'm in no rush to get rid of this phone any time soon.

I find that most people dont even know that Verizon sells this phone, besides, this thing is a Chick magnet, especially with my Whee Skin, Haha!

the only thing the diamond has on the vogue is a better camera, wifi and 64mb more ram, same processor same screen size 2.8" i would stick with the vogue oh and 2 more hardware keys

In 2 months it will be a year since the thread was created. Crazy how time flies....

I for my part still love my htc touch.
always get SO amused when an colleague, Iphone user, starts ranting about, ultimately, how better his phone is, and i go:
oh yeah, this Iphone is sooo awesome, but you know, it was too expensive at the time for what i was willing to spend for a cell, 600$ is... welll... a laptop, right? plus...you know, i couldnt resist 10$ a month for unlimited internet, and 10$ a month for unlimited emails & messenger... and theres the GPS chip... yeah it has a gps chip.. not the triangulation antenna thingy...did i mention 20$ unlimited... yeah.... but the Iphone rocks tho ! yeah... oh yah i get to install a lots of free apps too...ya know...
...kills me everytime...
(no seriously, to each his own, it's all good, but i'm keeping my htc touch for a while more, heck, till it catches on fire ! )

am keeping mine until i get my diamond2 on sprint..... contract ends in december... hopefully by then....
or if i like the touchpro2 ... MAYBE.. i dont like physical keyboards much

still fun
finally got my phone where i like it and it kinda bums me out cuz i dont wanna do any major mods to further trick it (and have to deal with the bugs). the vzw store only had two phones that came close to the touch even a year later. the only thing missing on the touch is g accelerator at this point. for the size and function i still love this phone too.

Lmao! Wow I forgot about this thread! Though I feel ashamed now cause I have an iPhone.

TheChampJT said:
Lmao! Wow I forgot about this thread! Though I feel ashamed now cause I have an iPhone.
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hahah ew.... iphone :S

great phone
iphone is nice ui but it is the only ui you get.The iphone is exactly like every other iphone. It is ok if you want to be a drone like everybody else, and want everything done for u, but if you want to alter your phone to the infinite level, in every category then this phone rocks. It is a little dated now but still has new custom roms coming out all the time. New programs and ui's being ported to it. This phone will be around a long time. I have unlimited internet for seven bucks, my email is free and sent to me via shaw's server just like on my pc. Free gps, I use orb to stream my analog and digital channels to my phone free with almost no buffering on a high speed network. I can listen to almost any radio station in the world free. Weather delivered , up to date...free
navigation....free. rss feeds,bluetooth,camera,windows office, opera , silent tethering to pc or handheld, google maps,mp3 player. There is so much you can do with this phone. It is a great introductory level phone for learning basics and beyond.i pay 37 dollars a month for my plan and i have a buddy who pays 120 a month for his iphone on a good month. i will stick with this one until i can afford a Leo or whitestone.

i luv the phone. when i first got it, i thought i would be bigger. I just wish it had more ram and a g senor.

i love the vogue but i hate winmo with a passion. sad to say but im ditching the vogue in a few months for the pre or hero.

Is the Nexus one worth it?

Is it worth the $600.00 for the Nexusone?
Thoughts Please.
Chuck

Definitely worth it if you have the cash the burn. I came into that situation when I came into the possession of a few StarCraft II beta keys, and technically only paid taxes on the phone.
My other reason is that I wanted to move to T-Mobile, the area I live has good coverage and I was paying way too much money as it were on AT&T. The Even More Plus plans make it an amazing phone to use on it. On AT&T they stick you with whatever $30 data plan. YMMV on that, because for the past half year I was on a Rogers HTC Magic on AT&T and was using their dumbphone unlimited plan for half that. But once I placed my SIM in the N1, the system kicked me up to the 30 dollar plan automatically.
As for the device itself, it's well built, feels very solid. Everything is just snappy when compared to the Magic, even portrait and landscape switching. When I got it earlier this week I was showing it around the office and probably made a few converts out of some iPhone people.

Well it depends. Have you used a smartphone or iphone before. Is this your first foray into touchscreens? Lots of questions, but heres my impression.
1) Phone is solid! sleek, and very thin for a smartphone.
2) Its feature packed with apps (only downside is no support for sd card apps install with the stock rom)
3) Google maps with navigation is killer!! especially with the free price tag.
4) People are experiencing low signal strenght when holding the bottom of the phone. I did notice that with the tmobile version, but i have the att version now and im guessing att service where i live is just that much better than tmo.
5) Screen is gorgeous. Resolution and the AMOLED technology is amazing.
6) Coming from iphone 3gs, the touchscreen isnt as good as the iphone, but the more i use the phone the less i notice the difference.
7) Call quality is about equal to the iphone.
8) Bottom menu buttons (back, menu, home and search) arent always spot on. I read somewhere here that you have to touch just above the icon and before the screen and its been responsive with that. hoping google will get that fix to actually be able to touch the icon and it should work.
9) Battery life for me has been good so far. Heavy text, light email and varying web use and it Lasts me all day and i usually charge my phone when i go to bed no matter what anyway.
10) And you have 14 days to test drive the phone. Only thing is that you pay $45 for restocking fee. W
So people can talk about this phone, but ultimately its going to end up with your decision. So either find someone with a nexus one to see in person, or buy it and return within 14 days if you dont like it and just get charged $45 after you get your refund.
Hope this helps

NO
This phone is absolutely TERRIBLE
Get an iPhone

sinclac said:
Is it worth the $600.00 for the Nexusone?
Thoughts Please.
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Good Phone, Get one

Yes it is worth it especially when we get flash 10.1

Great phone. You'll hear about a few perceived issues, but overall it's a great phone. I like it much better than the iphone 3GS it replaced.

it worths ,
1) it is fast, or even faster than iphone 3gs
2) you can use different widges instead of plain and simple icons in iphone.
3) although the apps is not that much than iphone , the apps is still enough for general use
4) easy to use , dont need itunes support, unmounted the sd cards anytime without any problems
5)
but i still missed the magnifier when choosing words in iphone and i feel disappointed about the youtube apps in nexus one, because i cant change the default location and this is useless to other countries beside US.

My life now revolves around my nexus one. That's how good it is.

Are you seriously asking this question IN THE NEXUS ONE SECTION???

um...yeah of course...we all have one here...

h2opoloplyr_11 said:
Well it depends. Have you used a smartphone or iphone before. Is this your first foray into touchscreens? Lots of questions, but heres my impression.
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Yes i was an iphone user now i have a mytouch 3g i have had touch screens for a few years now.

Great phone out of the box and plenty of customizing available! See the Development section for goodies

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Are you seriously asking this question IN THE NEXUS ONE SECTION???
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Well i guess i could ask in the iphone section

I mite be just a lil biased but i couldn't be happier that i bought this phone. Coming from a SE C905 its a completely different experience! I had the chance to use a HTC Hero phone and speed/screen wise it simply didn't compare, it's an awesome phone

absolutely loving this mobile, and you will too.
eric b

Paul22000 said:
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This phone is absolutely TERRIBLE
Get an iPhone
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I second that. How dare you consider the Nexus One when a heavenly device such as the iPhone is on the market. It is now even available in Commie Red or Suppression Purple.

xombe said:
I second that. How dare you consider the Nexus One when a heavenly device such as the iPhone is on the market. It is now even available in Commie Red or Suppression Purple.
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LOL, What have u bin smoken? or check the air your breathing

I think it will vary from person to person. I had a Blackberry curve... then the HTC TP2. I don't think I've ever truly experienced what a smartphone should be like until I got my N1. I absolutely think it was it was worth it.

Totaly worth it. I LOVE my new nexus one.
The iPhone pales in comparison.
Apple really sucks. The only reason the iPhone is popular is because it came out first. If android came out first, apple would hardly have any customers--just like MAC's vs PC's today

Evo is too big!

Has anyone else noticed the Evo is way too big to be a phone? I'm glade i'm waiting for the next 4g phone. Who really wants to watch a movie on their phone? I just hope the Devs stay with the Hero!

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Has anyone else noticed the Evo is way too big to be a phone? I'm glade i'm waiting for the next 4g phone. Who really wants to watch a movie on their phone? I just hope the Devs stay with the Hero!
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I agree. I handled the a dummy Evo yesterday at a Radio Shack, and it is half way to being a tablet. It would be nice to browse the web with that screen, but I already carry a ultralight laptop for that. I want the speed and processing power of the Evo, but in a form factor no bigger than my current hero.

I think a Sprint Nexus One would be the best compromise

the evo is a tad too big. any bigger and it'll be a droidpad. im staying with the hero for awhile. the only thing i like about the evo more than the hero is
1. 720p screen res
2. 8mp camera (5 is still awsome)
3. 1ghz snapdragon
4. 4g(which isnt all that great at the moment.
the hero is still a kickass phone

Yeah, that thing is like a brick in your pocket.

I just read the specs for the Hero 2 and it does not have the snapdragon or a faster processor. Sounds kinda lame, now I wish we were getting the N1.

What's wrong with Hero 1?

The problem is, it's not the latest and greatest anymore. Everyone, save a few, always want what's new and hot at the moment. As soon as the next phone comes out, all these people will be saying how much the EVO sucks in comparison.

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I just read the specs for the Hero 2 and it does not have the snapdragon or a faster processor. Sounds kinda lame, now I wish we were getting the N1.
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Link? I can only find rumor posts from February.

After browsing the Evo forums and hearing of all the disappointing realizations that clears 4g is not all it's hyped up to be and real world speeds are hardly impressive more often than not i cant help but chuckle. Not to mention as the OP said that thing is like a 1/8 scale ipad! plus im not going to fork over $450 for the first 4g device that will inevitably have it's fair share of bugs more than it already has. And for such a big screen u would thing HTC would have at least implemented 256k colors at the minimum. I know AMOLEDs are a bit more expensive. Why the 65k cap? I bought the hero back in October when it first came out so my Premier upgrade isn't due til this October. Id rather wait until 4g gets developed further and coverage increases dramatically. Plus i've got my hero rooted, overclocked, customized and running like a dream. I can live without the extra 232 mhZ (im running 768mhZ) til something a bit more solid comes to the market. My hero and i have been thru a lot and it can still do just about everything the Evo can do just at slightly less speed and fashion but i'm perfectly content with that. But inevitably this forum will fade into the background as most forums do when a new device is released cuz everyone feels like they have to be part of the new phone bandwagon every time something better comes out. Just like cp0200 said the hero is a badass phone if u customize it just right. Hopefully a few devs will stick around

I picked my EVO up at 8:00 AM yesterday, and returned it around noon today. One of my reasons for returning it was the disappointing performance of 4G here in Kansas City. I get better, more consistent speeds with 3G. Another reason was the size of the thing. I agree with you all, it is too big. I think if they had gone with a 3.7 inch screen, it would have been the perfect size. Every time I handled it, I was afraid that I was going to drop it. These two things had me wanting my Hero back.

To be perfectly honest, I'm completely disappointed with the EVO. I don't have one, but I've played with my friends, and my Hero just feels so much more stable. It might be that I'm running Darchdroid, or it might be that I just like the phone more.
The EVO is wayyy too big. I want my phone to fit in my pocket comfortably.
The software is the same HTC Sense crap. Why can't Sprint get a good vanilla Android phone? I was so excited when I heard the Nexus One was coming to Sprint and soooo disappointed when I heard it was cancelled for the EVO. And now that the EVO is out, I'm even more upset. The Nexus One is the perfect size and is plenty fast for my taste.
I found out I earned my upgrade last month, but there is no way I'm going to use it on the EVO. The extra $10 a month, crappy 4G I've been hearing about, and just the general unappealing aesthetics of the phone are more than enough to make me never want one for myself. I love my Hero, and I'll love it until I can get a decent vanilla Android phone on Sprint. Or I'll terminate early and go to T-Mobile... I've already been offered to have my ETF covered by them.

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Or I'll terminate early and go to T-Mobile... I've already been offered to have my ETF covered by them.
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If TMo's service wasn't so crappy where I live I would've stayed with them but obviously reliable service is more important than which carrier has the coolest phones

I dont think the EVO is too big, I think my Hero is too small when I can upgrade I will, I want a bigger touch screen, makes it easier to type IMO

assuming something better doesn't come out by october, that Evo will be hanging out in my back pocket (when it's not busy being worked hard in my hands), much the same way my Hero sits in my back pocket most of the time

That's what she said.

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I picked my EVO up at 8:00 AM yesterday, and returned it around noon today. One of my reasons for returning it was the disappointing performance of 4G here in Kansas City. I get better, more consistent speeds with 3G. Another reason was the size of the thing. I agree with you all, it is too big. I think if they had gone with a 3.7 inch screen, it would have been the perfect size. Every time I handled it, I was afraid that I was going to drop it. These two things had me wanting my Hero back.
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kc w00t w00t. kegs and eggs june 16th mumford and sons is playing 5am at firefly lounge. back on topic yea i really want the evo but i know something better will be out shortly. i may end up getting it anyway though

I agree with most of the comments here.
I checked one out here in Manhattan, and the 4G speeds were not too great.
It just feels way too big.
And someone commented before, it's the same 2.1 Sense ****. Feels laggy.
I am staying with Hero until the end of the year, then looking at my options.

The EVO is not too big. Your hands are too small
It is like a micro tablet computer, which is what I LOVE about it!!!
The thing is freakin awesome.

If you guys thing the EVO is too big, have you seen the Dell Streak specs?? It has a full 5 inch screen! And I want one of those too LOL

So I showed my evo to a friend....

And I realized why most people find it hard to use smartphones other than the iPhone. It is not based around the concept of 'iPhone is naturally easier because it just WORKS' but more along the lines of people have this notion that smartphones SHOULD behave/look like the iPhone.
For instance, when I showed my friend my Evo he looked at the screen and said "Where are the apps?" I said I only keep a few on the main screen that I use frequently such as SMS/Phone/Voicemail/Dropbox etc but the rest are in the app drawer. He said "Yeah... but that's gay they should all be on the screens" after switching from screen to screen only to find a few apps here and there I realized that people are accustomed to the clutter and confusion of iOS rather than the simplicity and organization of Android. It really seems counter intuitive to me. While the iPhone is a ****ing AMAZING phone (whoever says otherwise is a fanboy) it definitely loses in some areas to Android but people base their standards off the iOS which is a clear bias. I never knew how much of a grasp Apple has on the smartphone industry until this event. Coming from a Blackberry and having owned an iPod I found the transitions to be seamless but I also worked at IT for a long duration.
The conclusion I reached was that the notion of Android is harder to use because you need to be a geek to understand it is also false. Android is not more difficult to use, it is just different in itself. Turning on wifi on an iPhone is the same process. Downloading an APP is the same as well. Making phone calls and sending texts are identical. Hopefully we can see a growth in smartphone technologies that embrace the BEST possible user experience which I believe goes to Android for their sheer volume of phones as well as operating system capabilities.

Sounds like your describing that evo vs. iphone video on youtube and your friend is the character repeating "I don't care".
Are you happy with your device? Does it do what you want the way you want?
You are all that matters....
good day.

Kinda... but its not utter stupidity - more ignorance. What I am trying to say is that the iPhone has been the epitome of what a touchscreen smartphone SHOULD look and behave like.
I enjoy Android but I honestly got the Evo because of Sprints plan coupled in with unlimited bandwidth was a great money saving choice for a smart phone. Also, the fact that I can roam on Verizon meant I could get signal where an iPhone could not.
Honestly though, if I could get an iPhone on Sprints network with unlimited data + tethering as I do now for under $80 I would jump on that offer. Really love that phone and the game development is skyrocketing. I do enjoy the Evo, however. Cant complain about its amazing screen size and custom roms I can put in. Also the free tethering is nice

I guess your conclusion also explains why in every smartphone review, the iPhone is mentioned several times also.

Yup. Now if only we could get that phone out of the ATT deathgrip.

werxen said:
Yup. Now if only we could get that phone out of the ATT deathgrip.
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So you do want the iphone...
I'm not surprised that the iphone is the standard - there are a lot more of them than any other smartphone. And they're very nice phones.
That said, I much prefer my evo. Even if the iphone became available outside AT&T, I'm sticking with android. While the iphone has more games (and fart apps), android allows more customization. I'm also not limited to a single controlled app market. Finally, my aging eyes love the large screen.

My girlfriend has a mytouch slide and after having the phone for a week I was showing her how to use it and she didn't even realize there was a menu button. You miss out on an awful lot without using that button lol.
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People forget that the average Joe is a moron.

bigmoogle said:
So you do want the iphone...
I'm not surprised that the iphone is the standard - there are a lot more of them than any other smartphone. And they're very nice phones.
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Pretty sure the BB curve still holds the crown.
That said, I am moving my mom from her BB curve to an EVO in December. I'll do the same with the EVO that I did with the curve. I will set it up so everything she wants is on the home screens. I'll give it a nice, clean look and make sure the fonts are right, etc.
She wants it for the big screen, not because it is fast, customizable, or anything else.

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People forget that the average Joe is a moron.
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Or completely uninterested in technology. I'm sure there are plenty of people with brains and advanced degrees that could not care much less about stuff that is possible with their phone.

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People forget that the average Joe is a moron.
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I prefer: Common sense is not that common.
I agree with the OP 100%. People are creatures of habit and don't realize that in the same way a PC differs from a MAC, an Android phone will differ from iOS based phone. I think that people will buy anything that has a lower case "i" in front of it just because Apple found a niche in the way they advertise. I don't have a problem with their products. My beef with them is based on their communist approach to business and the fact that they don't care about their customers.
Personally, I have never nor will I ever buy anything Apple. It has nothing to do with being an Android fan-boy so much as it is about being an Apple hater. lol Although I will say that my first experience with Android has left me wanting to kick myself for not switching over sooner.

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I prefer: Common sense is not that common.
I agree with the OP 100%. People are creatures of habit and don't realize that in the same way a PC differs from a MAC, an Android phone will differ from iOS based phone. I think that people will buy anything that has a lower case "i" in front of it just because Apple found a niche in the way they advertise. I don't have a problem with their products. My beef with them is based on their communist approach to business and the fact that they don't care about their customers.
Personally, I have never nor will I ever buy anything Apple. It has nothing to do with being an Android fan-boy so much as it is about being an Apple hater. lol Although I will say that my first experience with Android has left me wanting to kick myself for not switching over sooner.
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I'm nebenezer and I approve this message
I made the terrible mistake of buying my g/f an iPod nano about a year ago. I really should have known better but she really wanted it. I got her hooked on Android with her Hero last Dec and she is now enamored with her EVO. My current challenge is I'm trying to convince her to let me see if I can hit her iPod with a .50 cal round at about 400 yards.
I'd settle for using my AR at 200 yards but the .50 would be so much more gratifying

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I'm nebenezer and I approve this message
I made the terrible mistake of buying my g/f an iPod nano about a year ago. I really should have known better but she really wanted it. I got her hooked on Android with her Hero last Dec and she is now enamored with her EVO. My current challenge is I'm trying to convince her to let me see if I can hit her iPod with a .50 cal round at about 400 yards.
I'd settle for using my AR at 200 yards but the .50 would be so much more gratifying
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Bwahaha! My girl wanted an iPod for her birthday a few years back, and when she opened the box, there was a Zune in it. She looked at me as if I had just said something about her momma. After a week, she was loving it. She was able to remove that resource-hungry iTunes software from her computer (she had it on there because of an iPod Shuffle she previously was using but broke), and it made her computer faster, too.
If you ever take the .50 cal to the iPod, make sure you use the Evo to capture the event.

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Bwahaha! My girl wanted an iPod for her birthday a few years back, and when she opened the box, there was a Zune in it. She looked at me as if I had just said something about her momma. After a week, she was loving it. She was able to remove that resource-hungry iTunes software from her computer (she had it on there because of an iPod Shuffle she previously was using but broke), and it made her computer faster, too.
If you ever take the .50 cal to the iPod, make sure you use the Evo to capture the event.
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Yeah, I got it for her but with the caveat that it could only ever make a usb connection with HER COMPUTER.
I think I'll have to actually get her a raplacement before she'll give it up. I'm thinking either a Zune or a 16gb microsd card for her EVO.
Also, rest assured if I ever do get her iPod out to the range.. the event will be captured and shared

iPhone is a bit too easy and locked down for my tastes. I like being able to apply themes, change my Home app, etc. I think that alone makes Android look much better than iPhone. My iPhone friend who is an Apple fanboy agrees that the Android setup is much better and widgets are awesome.
Icons on icons is ugly to me. It's almost insulting.

nebenezer said:
Yeah, I got it for her but with the caveat that it could only ever make a usb connection with HER COMPUTER.
I think I'll have to actually get her a raplacement before she'll give it up. I'm thinking either a Zune or a 16gb microsd card for her EVO.
Also, rest assured if I ever do get her iPod out to the range.. the event will be captured and shared
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Zune HD ftw. I have had a 16 gig since launch day. Sexy screen, light and portable, and best of all the battery life is ****ing outstanding. Also, the best music browsing/playability out of any device to date.

Yea, the Zune is pretty. Although to be honest, I would invest in a 32GB SD card for my Evo and use that instead of using two separate devices. While the UI of the Zune is pretty, I wouldn't spend the money on it when I have a phone I already carry with me all the time that can do the same thing.

werxen said:
Zune HD ftw. I have had a 16 gig since launch day. Sexy screen, light and portable, and best of all the battery life is ****ing outstanding. Also, the best music browsing/playability out of any device to date.
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Look dude, I'm not trying to start more shiz in another one of your threads.. I'm appalled by your behavior in your WTF WIFI?!?! thread, but that's another story. I'm asking you politely to check your language. You could have just as, if not more effectively covered your point without dropping an f-bomb.. Again, not trying to start shiz.
I have no experience with zune but everyone I know that has one LOVES it, and several of them have models that are OOOLLLDDD, so that says something to me about build quality. On the other hand, a big sdcard full of music would conveniently negate the need for another device to purchase and keep charged, but would likely mean I'd have to hook her up with another battery or two or an extended battery. Oh what a dilemma, now I have to research and purchase more technology

nebenezer said:
Look dude, I'm not trying to start more shiz in another one of your threads.. I'm appalled by your behavior in your WTF WIFI?!?! thread, but that's another story. I'm asking you politely to check your language. You could have just as, if not more effectively covered your point without dropping an f-bomb.. Again, not trying to start shiz.
I have no experience with zune but everyone I know that has one LOVES it, and several of them have models that are OOOLLLDDD, so that says something to me about build quality. On the other hand, a big sdcard full of music would conveniently negate the need for another device to purchase and keep charged, but would likely mean I'd have to hook her up with another battery or two or an extended battery. Oh what a dilemma, now I have to research and purchase more technology
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Okay fine lets agree to be police to so others don't have to deal with it.
I was thinking about getting an SD card for my Evo but the only crappy thing is I want to carry my music around in places that I don't want to take my phone like the gym. Not only are phones prohibited in some gyms, I couldn't bear to accidentally drop a weight on my phone or get too sweaty and short it out etc etc. Although I love my Zune and it cost me as much as my Evo did, it is not nearly the same device as far as capabilities.
Plus, another thing with the Evo is you don't really need an extra sd card. Just setup Dropbox accounts and you're good to go. I have all my music on dropbox and I just stream it perfectly.

Not to hijack, but I also have a dropbox account. How are you streaming music to your evo?
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Unbiased opinion- This vs. iPhone 4 vs. Thunderbolt

I need to switch from T-Mobile to Verizon. I just simply can't handle the dropped data connection. Sure 4G might be fast on T-Mobile (in some areas I'm getting 5 mbps) but on campus where I'm at 90% of the time, I don't get data at all.
I've heard Verizon tops out at about 1.5 mbps. Can anyone here confirm or dispel that?
How does the Incredible stack up? I know new phones are on the horizon, but I saw that the Incredible S doesn't have much over the other phones already out. The HTC Thunderbolt is nice but it's also $249.99. The processors aren't that much different.
I do like the front facing camera. The Thunderbolt does have 4G though. So I was considering getting the Incredible now and then exchanging for the Thunderbolt when it launches. (I have 30 days exchange since I'm in California)
What do you guys think?

the processor is very different. it's 2nd gen and much more powerful. check out wirefly's presentation on the htc thunderbolt vs the evo. The thunderbolt destroys the evo.

I am a t-mobile convert for the same reason, except 50% of the time I didn't get any service at all.
The Verizon network, in my opinion/experience, is vastly more reliable than t-mobile's spotty coverage.
When I switched, I went to wirefly.com and got my incredible for $20 brand-new-in-box when I added a line to a family plan. The deal is even better if you sign up for a new contract; the phone is FREE.
I cannot say the same for the thunderbolt or iPhone. I owned an iPhone2g (orig), and the only feature I miss is the integration with iTunes seamlessly. But that's the only thing I miss (aside from the sleekness). I haven't had great experiences with Apples, but that could be entirely different for you.
The iPhone almost requires extra accessories off the bat, like an otterbox case to protect the back glass plate from shattering (which is common), and, of course, the "Antennae-gate" fiasco. Haven't heard if this was solved in the CDMA revision, haven't heard otherwise either.
It really all comes down to what you want out of a phone. The Inc and the iPhone 4 have been out for over 6 months, whereas the Thunderbolt is bleeding edge (New sense ui, new graphics processor, HUGE screen.)
P.S.: just to throw a wrench in your gears, look at the Incredible S. Can you say SEXAY??

I personally could not recommend the incredible cause it's becoming outdated fast. New sense ui, more ram, and better cpu are major improvements in the next batch of htc phones.
hell... being able to use htcsense.com with out a buggy desire z rom is worth waiting for.

I just completed my order for an HTC Droid Incredible.
Since I ordered today, I'll have until March 17th (February only has 28 days) to exchange it. I'm sure the Thunderbolt will be out by then.
If it isn't, I'll call Verizon and threaten to cancel my order and go to AT&T or something if they don't let me order a Thunderbolt to have that as my new phone.
Plus since I ordered with Best Buy, I get the Buy Back program for free!

Essenar said:
I just completed my order for an HTC Droid Incredible.
Since I ordered today, I'll have until March 17th (February only has 28 days) to exchange it. I'm sure the Thunderbolt will be out by then.
If it isn't, I'll call Verizon and threaten to cancel my order and go to AT&T or something if they don't let me order a Thunderbolt to have that as my new phone.
Plus since I ordered with Best Buy, I get the Buy Back program for free!
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You'll be able to trade out, and honestly (barring some ridiculous situation such as the T-bolt not lasting 2 hours on that battery or something else that would ruin its functionality) I would suggest doing it. The T-bolt's processor is LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than the Incredible out of the box, not to mention the ability to overclock to 1.7 ghz and remain stable. The GPU is very nearly twice as fast in the second-gen Snapdragon, and Sense 2.0 absolutely amazing as well. I love the Inc, its amazing compared to what I had (Eris), but the Thunderbolt (and upcoming Inc S) will be very nearly the same amount of improvement over the Inc.

Essenar said:
I just completed my order for an HTC Droid Incredible.
Since I ordered today, I'll have until March 17th (February only has 28 days) to exchange it. I'm sure the Thunderbolt will be out by then.
If it isn't, I'll call Verizon and threaten to cancel my order and go to AT&T or something if they don't let me order a Thunderbolt to have that as my new phone.
Plus since I ordered with Best Buy, I get the Buy Back program for free!
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no offence, but I hate that people do this. That's the exact reason VZW changed the return policy to 14 days, and I wouldn't be suprised if it decreases to 7 next year.

Yeah the Incredible is great, but it is becoming outdated, and VZW will stop selling in March I believe. The Thunderbolt seems nice, although slightly large. Just beware of those 4G costs. You never know the pricing The Big Red will put for that service...
Also the iPhone is nice option, if you dont want Android...
*Lets not make this a Apple bashing post btw guys.

Incredible510 said:
Yeah the Incredible is great, but it is becoming outdated, and VZW will stop selling in March I believe. The Thunderbolt seems nice, although slightly large. Just beware of those 4G costs. You never know the pricing The Big Red will put for that service...
Also the iPhone is nice option, if you dont want Android...
*Lets not make this a Apple bashing post btw guys.
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No apple bashing. I just don't like them personally. lol
Honestly, I would own and use a Verizon iPhone 4, if it went on sale.
The screen is slightly smaller than the droid inc, but the pixel density is instantly noticeable...it's so rich and vibrant...
I think I would miss flashing roms WAY too much though, lol.

I personally switched to the Dinc from the Evo... the Evo was nice just rather large for day to day use ... the Dinc is a good phone I bought mine used online so no contract and able to upgrade when the new phones come out this summer
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It's true that Verizons 3G typically tops out at 1.5 mbps. In my experience, its definitely good enough for web surfing, but really isn't great for tethering or downloading large files (videos, or app downloads etc).
yes, 2nd generation snapdragons are much more powerful than the 1st gen. Also, the gpu on the incredible isn't great so don't expect to play any graphic intense games.
I'd probably wait for a newer phone, they're right around the corner, unless you need one right now.

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I'd probably wait for a newer phone, they're right around the corner, unless you need one right now.
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There will always be a newer phone right around the corner in the android world.

cougar618 said:
no offence, but I hate that people do this. That's the exact reason VZW changed the return policy to 14 days, and I wouldn't be suprised if it decreases to 7 next year.
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Apparently Verizon doesn't care what you think.
The lady from Verizon I spoke to said Verizon is HAPPY to let me exchange my device for the Thunderbolt if that's what I want, within 14 days.

QuickSilver98 said:
It's true that Verizons 3G typically tops out at 1.5 mbps. In my experience, its definitely good enough for web surfing, but really isn't great for tethering or downloading large files (videos, or app downloads etc).
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I don't agree with this at all. I've tethered and Skype'd for 3 or 4 hours with no issues whatsoever with the speed. The quality was not as great as my home connection, but it was fine for having no other alternative.

The incredible is an excellent phone. In all honesty, it anybody on Verizon would do well to wait until June to upgrade to an iPhone if that is the route they choose to go.
Android is an excellent platform, but iOS has it's virtues as well. Just depends on the experience you are looking for.
In my opinion, the Thunderbolt is not enough of an improvement over the Incredible to wait on it. At a certain point you reach overkill.

I'm surprised at the lack of apple bashing till now. I switched to an iPhone and I am moving back to android. I have an iPad for all my iOS gaming needs. I am done with the incredible though and moving to a fascinate.
To be honest, wait and see what the iPhone 5 is going offer (next few months you should start hearing rumors) before making a jump. iOS is only getting better and will more than likely have many of the features of Android without sacrificing build quality.
Good luck with your purchase either way.

IISiDeK1CKII said:
I'm surprised at the lack of apple bashing till now. I switched to an iPhone and I am moving back to android. I have an iPad for all my iOS gaming needs. I am done with the incredible though and moving to a fascinate.
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Why would you get the fascinate? Its JUST about to get froyo and a serious lag problem.
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Don't get a samsung. Nuff said.
IISiDeK1CKII said:
I'm surprised at the lack of apple bashing till now. I switched to an iPhone and I am moving back to android. I have an iPad for all my iOS gaming needs. I am done with the incredible though and moving to a fascinate.
To be honest, wait and see what the iPhone 5 is going offer (next few months you should start hearing rumors) before making a jump. iOS is only getting better and will more than likely have many of the features of Android without sacrificing build quality.
Good luck with your purchase either way.
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I switched from a first gen iPhone on Tmo to the Droid Incredible on Verizon. I agree the service is vastly superior and I seem to get signal almost everywhere (save for my ground floor apartment, but thats not their fault.)
I was a little disappointed when I first switched phones though , something about Android on the Incredible felt cheap and I couldn't place my finger on it. Then while loading Facebook one night I realized it was just because there was zero lag time between hitting the icons and the application loading up. Weird right? Something about having that loadtime on the first gen iPhone made everything seem a little more substantial.
But that's all in the past, love the flexibility of Android. That said, I've still yet to see an Android phone keep up with an iPhone when it comes to standby battery life. As for waiting for the iPhone 5 - seems like it'll be the 4G update (awesome) but nothing else substantial.
The Dinc is still a fantastic phone though. It's very quick for general phone use and web browsing, it just doesn't have the most battery conservative cpu nor does it have the graphical capabilities for upcoming games. It's a shame that Samsung seems so hellbent to not support their phones, otherwise those would be great as well.

khanam said:
Don't get a samsung.
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The incredible is too small, I am tired of HTC and I didn't like the Droid X. I loved the fascinate in my time with it. I am done with ROM swapping. You all's opinions aren't the only ones that matter.
I'm glad you all like the incredible so much, but it'll be EOL in a few months. The next thing I want is the iPhone 5, so to sate myself till then, the fascinate will suffice. Thank you for your continuing support of my phone purchasing decisions. Philly, do you not have anything better to do then travel through this forum stating your opinions as truth? Other people are allowed to have opinions too big guy. Froyo has been on the fascinate for a while, it's been leaked. And in my experience with it, there wasn't lag. Biased much?
Again, this brings me full circle to an original point. Asking this question here won't net you honest unbiased opinions. There are too many people who feel too strongly about android to give you the whole story. Do what I did, get the iPhone and see if that's what you want. Return it and try an android phone, you may realize like I did that android is too lovable to leave. I love my iPad and I will love my fascinate. It's the best of both worlds in my opinion. (it's ok if I have one of those right Philly?)