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To start off Iam no stranger to android&to the Iphone/Ipod touch OS(used to own an ipodtouch)
Iam truely brickwalled on deciding if I should switch to a nexus one or a Iphone 3g on tmobile. The reason why I'm still considering an iphone with tmobile is because for 1 my bill will go down a bit&I ll save near 200 on the phones purchase via ebay.
I do love android&the nexus one seems to be what I have been waiting for yet I don't want to be left out in the dark with 500 dollar device. By that I mean it not getting many android software updates. The only thing I can say I don't like about android 100% is the app market( I'm a sucker for games)
But all aside I just don't want to make the wrong choice as ill be starting my college classes in mid march&I need a new phone to see me thru. Currently I'm on a tmo g1&I havehad it for a year now. Its been dropped a few times&has its scares&I have maxed it out to my taste with custom roms.......but the time has come for a new device.
I welcome all help&opinions(esp if you have used both devices)
Firstly, the iPhone won't get 3G on T-Mobile bands.
I myself upgraded from a G1, and while I miss the hardware KB (mostly for SNES) the upgrade is great. All the things the G1 could technically do, this thing can do while running 5 other apps without any lag.
You're pretty much right about the games, but Polarbit has a handful of cool ones in 3d now that run great on the Nexus, and really show it off. Armageddon Squadron (dumb name) is a great WWII flying game where you can even dogfight online (though nobody ever seems to play). However, SNESoid is pretty much crippled right now that took away a lot of the gaming potential.
Eventually, however, it will have Flash 10.1 support, which will unlock a nearly infinite catalog of games online. Granted, Flash games aren't the most engaging.
I've been playing HomeRun Battle 3d on my nexus all day, so hard to put down.
you cant compare a Nexus One and iPhone 3G but u can compare it to a 3GS, i would go for that if u decide to take the iPhone route, the 3Gs is soo much better than the 3G
anyways i was in the same boat, i wanted the 3Gs but I was dying for and Android device, passed on the Nexus one ofr now, and saved 300 bucks and got a myTouch3G instead, i am still gonna in the market for a high powered ANDROID device but this is fine for now. SOmeone just put it to me like iPhone is for Paris Hiltons nowadays, its glamor. All the smart DEVs use the ANDROID platform
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you cant compare a Nexus One and iPhone 3G but u can compare it to a 3GS, i would go for that if u decide to take the iPhone route, the 3Gs is soo much better than the 3G
anyways i was in the same boat, i wanted the 3Gs but I was dying for and Android device, passed on the Nexus one ofr now, and saved 300 bucks and got a myTouch3G instead, i am still gonna in the market for a high powered ANDROID device but this is fine for now. SOmeone just put it to me like iPhone is for Paris Hiltons nowadays, its glamor. All the smart DEVs use the ANDROID platform
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Well said... the glamour bit.
I have 2 phones, a nexus one and an iphone 3gs.
IMHO, the nexus 1 is where the iphone was about a year ago, ie it's missing some functions (although you can add most of those through 3rd party apps and of course, the cooks are always making it better.)
HOWEVER, I love both phones. The thing with the Nexus is that once you root it etc, the possibilities are endless, just like when you jailbreak, but jailbreaking is easier than rooting (again imho) but you really get to know and love your phone once you have to figure out how to do things like fastbooting this and terminal into that etc...
There is one thing to keep in mind, the next phone is always around the corner and there could be a completely new iphone announced soon. Apple is having an event on the 27th of Jan, so maybe hold off on deciding until you hear what Stevy has to say
Either way, I think you'll be happy with either choice you make
Lou
samawil said:
I have 2 phones, a nexus one and an iphone 3gs.
IMHO, the nexus 1 is where the iphone was about a year ago, ie it's missing some functions (although you can add most of those through 3rd party apps and of course, the cooks are always making it better.)
HOWEVER, I love both phones. The thing with the Nexus is that once you root it etc, the possibilities are endless, just like when you jailbreak, but jailbreaking is easier than rooting (again imho) but you really get to know and love your phone once you have to figure out how to do things like fastbooting this and terminal into that etc...
There is one thing to keep in mind, the next phone is always around the corner and there could be a completely new iphone announced soon. Apple is having an event on the 27th of Jan, so maybe hold off on deciding until you hear what Stevy has to say
Either way, I think you'll be happy with either choice you make
Lou
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jailbreaking an iphone is easier than running 'fastboot oem unlock' ??
Also is it true that if I were to buy a jailbroken unlocked iphone 3g(3gs too exspensive)
&upgrade firmware that I would need a an at&t sim to activate it to rejailbreak then unlock it again?
If true that seals the deal&the nexus will be my choice
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jailbreaking an iphone is easier than running 'fastboot oem unlock' ??
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To jailbreak my iPhone I pressed a button that said "make it rain". Both a pretty easy, but the Blackra1n app is easier for newbies.
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To jailbreak my iPhone I pressed a button that said "make it rain". Both a pretty easy, but the Blackra1n app is easier for newbies.
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That's what i meant...download and click
I'm not saying it's better..just easier
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There is no solution to jailbreak new iPhone 3Gs hardware released after 11/09. Blackrain will jailbreak but when switch phone off and back on again it will be in recovery mode and to get out from that phone need to be connect to the computer and run a blackrain again.
Even rooted N1 can be updated to new firmware without any problem.
Freezey said:
I do love android&the nexus one seems to be what I have been waiting for yet I don't want to be left out in the dark with 500 dollar device. By that I mean it not getting many android software updates. The only thing I can say I don't like about android 100% is the app market( I'm a sucker for games)
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Why are you so worried about not getting software updates? Android has had quite a few updates for only being out 1 year. If you're worried about updates on the Nexus itself, it's only been out for 2 weeks. . .
If your network is T-Mobile, Nexus One hands down. If your network is AT&T iPhone 3GS hands down. If you mean iPhone 3G and NOT 3GS, I would still go with Nexus One on AT&T.
I'm an ex iphone user and htc hd2 (pants) and the nexus one is by far the best phone i've ever had and i've had loads !!!
Nexus one hands down!
My favorite among many is... ask an iphone owner to take a picture in the dark! Oh nevermind!
But without making this an iphone vs N1 battle... Android is the future
Don't let all the bad publicity about the Nexus sink in... it's all overrated, this is an awesome phone
On the question of if you bought an unlocked 3g, would you have to rejailbreak and unlock it using an att sim to get an update...no
If it is already unlocked, you simply install the latest firmware update VIA the right methods. If it started out properly jailbroken and unlocked, and was produced before week 40, you never have to worry about it locking ever again.
Anyway, a little background. I used to be on these forums CONSTANTLY (had an HTC Touch (Sprint) and HTC HD). I then finally switched to the iPhone (never wanting to before, because of the ridiculously many basic flaws it had).
I am now on an iPhone 3GS 32GB. It honestly is the best phone I have ever used. I run a small business (selling smartphones), and can focus so much more now on getting things done, rather on HOW to get them done so that my phone will work right.
I also sell the Nexus One, and played with a customers a bit before I sold it. It seemed good...but sort of beta. Animations weren't as smooth as I would have liked, the device wasn't as fast as I would have liked, and typing was a NIGHTMARE. Since it doesn't have many common implementations of multitouch, I had to be VERY deliberate and careful when typing in order to get it to work right. On the iPhone, I can type ridiculously fast. Since I am used to the more responsive screen, however, I sucked on the Nexus One. That being said, perhaps if I had gone straight from the Touch HD to the Nexus One, I would have never noticed / cared. Even at that point though, I could never be as fast at typing as I am on the iPhone. I can hammer out emails and texts very quickly, and the correction is superb.
However, you are asking about Nexus One and 3G...I think I would say Nexus One for you. I would say 3GS overall, simply because it truly is the best. But between Nexus One and 3G, go for the Nexus One.
1. You are not coming from an iPhones typing experience.
2. The iPhone 3G honestly is just too slow. I've got 2 friends with the 3G model and I can't stand it. The 3GS is really so much faster.
Also, you do indeed need to take into consideration the fact that you are going to use T-Mobile...for which you would have no 3G on any iPhone. However if you go 3GS, the speed of the device can in many times compensate quite well for this, especially if you have a good strong signal with EDGE (used it today).
Also keep in mind that since you will be forced to use EDGE all the time on an iPhone, the battery life will be excellent (although you could choose to do the same with the Nexus One of course - but probably wouldn't).
Another thing, the iPhone is kind of tested - tried and true. All the apps are made for the same screen and res, the same platform, there has only been 3 very careful and slow implementations of the device, they don't usually slap 100 bells and whistles on - so you can always rely on it - ALWAYS.
Also, I do have my iPhone jailbroken, and have taken care of the few faults Apple left, and added a bunch of awesome features.
I'm also told by my suppliers that I should have access to the next gen iPhone sometime soon so...perhaps you should indeed wait as has been mentioned, at a minimum I'd wait until that Apple conference dealyo on the 27th.
But really, I just can't say enough how converted I am. I also installed OS X on my PC and never think about Windows (even Win 7). Apple products really are just SO SOLID and dependable. And fast. It's awesome.
Don't forget it also depends what you want it for. If you want to tinker with it and get into it, a Nexus One is probably again your best choice. If you want an awesome full featured fast smartphone to get things done very efficiently and completely every single time reliably, I'd say 3GS.
Wow. This was the first post I've made on here since I got my iPhone. Truly though, it has been my best phone experience ever, and I have tinkered with quite a few HTC phones for a LOT of time.
I just came back for old times sake.
Anyway, good day to all you xda members! It was good to be back for a bit.
Just a quick FYI, I wholesale and retail all sorts of smartphones (including the Nexus One and factory unlocked (and software unlocked) iPhone 3G and 3GS). So drop me a line or tell a friend if there's interest!
[email protected]
Not going to adress your whole wall-of-text, sorry about that. Just a little note, a 16GB card does NOT cost $100, it's under half of that.
And as a little counterweight: I must say I enjoy Win7 and Android a lot more than OSX and iphone, but that might be just me. Also I'm not a devout follower of any computer software and I will never convert to anything. If I think it's better for my needs, I will use it (having had WM phones, ipods, iphones etc etc). I still use a ipod nano 16GB as my mp3 player because it's small and has a nice screen (although without itunes).
People saying they are converts to computer software/hardware well... too bad for them imo
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Not going to adress your whole wall-of-text, sorry about that. Just a little note, a 16GB card does NOT cost $100, it's under half of that.
And as a little counterweight: I must say I enjoy Win7 and Android a lot more than OSX and iphone, but that might be just me. Also I'm not a devout follower of any computer software and I will never convert to anything. If I think it's better for my needs, I will use it (having had WM phones, ipods, iphones etc etc). I still use a ipod nano 16GB as my mp3 player because it's small and has a nice screen (although without itunes).
People saying they are converts to computer software/hardware well... too bad for them imo
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Hey, thanks for the input. Would you mind dropping a link to a 16gb card cheaper than that? I have always been surprised they were so expensive, guess I have just been looking in the wrong places.
As for the convert issue...I agree. For example, I was going to drop my iPhone and move to the Nexus One until I tried one out, and discovered that it's 3G will only work with TMobile, and only in the US. What I meant by convert is...right now I have OS X and I have Win 7 ultimate, and I have an iPhone and have had many HTC phones and...In my experience, and for my uses, Apple products have proved time and time again to be vastly superior. But the second the "Nexus Two" comes out and beats the latest iPhone...I'm on board I've really always wanted an Android phone, and really always thought it would conquer. However for the time being, the 3GS 32GB jailbroken has proved the top of the pack for me.
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discovered that it's 3G will only work with TMobile, and only in the US
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Just wanted to address this - the 3G on the nexus will work fine outside the US - some carriers like those in canada dont necissarily use the tmob US frequencies but the whole of europe (on all carriers) and significant parts of the rest of the world does.
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Just wanted to address this - the 3G on the nexus will work fine outside the US - some carriers like those in canada dont necissarily use the tmob US frequencies but the whole of europe (on all carriers) and significant parts of the rest of the world does.
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How sure are you about this? From my understanding, even T-Mobile in other countries doesn't use the T-Mobile US 3G frequency. I was under the impression that T-Mobile US alone used their 3G frequency.
Can anyone help us out here?
Seriously annoyed with myself right now. Waited for this HD2 for a while now and it JUST became available on my corp website (US-Tmo) - could pick it up now if I wanted.
Of course now I'm considering if I wouldn't want to wait it out for the new iPhone to get announced June 7 and then roll onto my corp plan.
I specifically bought an iPod Touch so I would NOT be tempted to buy an iPhone for the wrong reasons.
But after suffering through 4 Sprint TP1's, and now on a Sprint TP2, I'm less than thrilled - and maybe wondering if I should just give up and go to dark side to get reliable operation. That is my biggest issue - phone is always stuttering and doing stuff I don't want it to - despite the upgrade to Sense 2.5, I still feel like I'm fighting the phone half the time.
I really really like the open source nature of winmo and hate the box Jobs creates around his products, but in my experience with my iTouch - it just works.
I played with the HD2 in the store and while the screen is much better now, I still felt I was trying to convince myself the keyboard and browser were as good as my iTouch - and that's the first sign I guess they're not.
Anyway, have at me - I'm just on the fence now.
EDIT FOR CLARIFICATION: I should point out, the only reason I went to the TP2 was Sprint forced me to burn an upgrade as I was "so close" to my 1 yr warranty they wouldn't process another upgrade and staunchly refused to move me to TP2 w/o fee as the famous memo said they should. However, I only upgraded after I was given written proof they will let me out of my contract with no ETF if I'm unhappy for any reason. So I have a get out of jail free card I intend to use as soon as I make up my mind and screw them right back.
Why stop there? Why not wait for the iphone 5g or the HD3?
Get what "you" want!!
You are going to hear how good this phone is!! I love it! But it is not for everyone. If you like easy, stay with what you are used to. No one can decide for you. I researched for months,before it came out. I'm happy with what it is, & has, not what it might be or get!!
ive seen the iphone hype and i dont care
a whole bunch of people dont care about hype, ironically they themselves are a demographic group.
i ordered my hd2 yesterday when my network rang me by suprise 3 months early offering an upgrade.
i guess they knew some pretty new phones were gonna be out (or at least in serious pre-release hype) when my contract expired.
i have an hd1 and just ordered my hd2 (arrives in a few hours ahem) i guess its pretty late in terms of how long the phone has been out, but i was always put off by the screen being too big to be a 'phone' as the hd1 is the maximum size in my opinion. i wanted the hd2 to be exactly what it is now, but the same size as the hd1.
why would you want an iphone anyway?
i have an iphone... i bought it dirt cheap broken it looked like it had been run over. i fixed it and got everything working, even jailbroke it put some apps etc but i never bothered to put it back together because i have a hd.
i actually use my phone. i use contacts, calendar, etc i remote desktop to my main pc. about a hundred other things as well, even though 'theres an app for that' on the ipod wm is just better.
xda... roms... i think youre just having trouble coming to terms with the fact that while iphones are good (dont get me wrong) and the new iphone will be good too, its just not the right phone for you.
thats something i can accept, lots of people feel like they HAVE to prefer the iphone.
basically a guy that doesnt even have his hd2 yet is trying to convince you to go for the phone you want, not the phone that wants to be loved the most (deep psychological implications there lol) so the hd2 must be good. its definately going down in history as an epic phone lol
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Why stop there? Why not wait for the iphone 5g or the HD3?
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thats not good advice, the iphone 6g is almost out lol
maybe he has a 10 year contract
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Seriously annoyed with myself right now. Waited for this HD2 for a while now and it JUST became available on my corp website (US-Tmo) - could pick it up now if I wanted.
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so basically, what you have been waiting for has finally arrived.
Of course now I'm considering if I wouldn't want to wait it out for the new iPhone to get announced June 7 and then roll onto my corp plan.
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the thing is you always get wacky efficiency ideas in your head when you see the light at the end of the tunnel. (the tunnel being the contract, and the light being the upgrade).
even if its not about upgrades and youre just buying phones, its intelligent to question outcomes of alternative solutions to decisions you have made.
I specifically bought an iPod Touch so I would NOT be tempted to buy an iPhone for the wrong reasons.
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so basically you already have an iphone. the ipod is basically all the selling points of an iphone, without the phone. if youre thinking yes, but the new iphone will be better than your current ipod touch then i guess thats true, but then whats the point of having that anyway then?
if you buy the hd2 are you gonna buy the next gen ipod touch to compensate for not having an iphone?
But after suffering through 4 Sprint TP1's, and now on a Sprint TP2, I'm less than thrilled - and maybe wondering if I should just give up and go to dark side to get reliable operation.
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i think the hd2 has been pretty much been given the overall thumbs up by most of the world now its a pretty safe bet. look at how the reviews of the tp2 etc changed over time, the hype and novelty wore off and people moved on. the reviews for the hd2 are consistant now, even picking up as they come out on more networks.
That is my biggest issue - phone is always stuttering and doing stuff I don't want it to - despite the upgrade to Sense 2.5, I still feel like I'm fighting the phone half the time.
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sense is not your only option...
also, what is your phone doing that you dont want it to? running apps while youre on the phone is a big problem for many people that can be solved v easily.
if you feel like youre fighting against the fault then that is because of the user interface.
it takes too many clicks to do a lot of things in sense 2.5 too.
shortcuts help a lot. getting small apps to toggle wifi etc and do what you do commonly make your phone muuuuch easier to use.
why dont you say what you mean specifically?
I really really like the open source nature of winmo and hate the box Jobs creates around his products, but in my experience with my iTouch - it just works.
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yes but so does wm. there are stable versions of everything on wm that the iphone does.
I played with the HD2 in the store and while the screen is much better now, I still felt I was trying to convince myself the keyboard and browser were as good as my iTouch - and that's the first sign I guess they're not.
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you can install many different browsers. many stable and fast.
there are many different keyboards you can install on wm too...
different looks, different layouts, built in functions like copy and paste (by holding a key), shortcuts, numberpads, swipe, commercial ones, freeware, much more flexible. you can even put the iphone keyboard skin on your 'much better' screen of the hd2.
Anyway, have at me - I'm just on the fence now.
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enjoy
I think the only really compelling reason to go for an HD2 over an iPhone 4G is the 4.3" screen. The thing is enormous, and while I don't watch movies on the go (the HD2 can't really play HD movies anyway), the screen is just awesome-- every other phone screen now looks tiny to me. I prefer the industrial design on the HD2 to that of the iPhone 3G/3GS (maybe it seems novel because I've never seen a single other HD2 in the wild, whereas everyone and their dog has an iPhone), but the 4G iPhone is pretty sleek, so we'll have to see.
The HD2's capacitive screen is a big step up from old WM phones, but its accuracy is still not quite at iPhone levels, and despite the huge screen and the variety of keyboards available (after experimenting, I generally stick with the HTC one anyway), I still can't type nearly as accurately (and thus quickly) on the HD2 as on the iPhone. I think the main reason is Apple's still-best-in-class autocorrection (HTC's XT9 mode is so bad that I stick with normal entry, which has no autocorrect at all).
Snapdragon makes the HD2 faster than phones like the TP2, but it still has all the usual Windows Mobile problems (lagging, inconsistent behavior, things inexplicably stop working, needing to soft reset, etc.). The CPU is damn fast, so as a result it sometimes does fly, but it goes to waste in WM, which just delivers highly inconsistent performance. As a phone, my 2G iPhone (with a lowly 400 MHz ARM11 CPU) is much more consistent. I can answer every call that comes in on the iPhone without issue, I never have problems sending/receiving emails, etc., which is not quite true for the HD2 (which sometimes has the black screen of death, slows down tremendously, or just plain locks up, requiring a battery pull).
In sum, the HD2 is the greatest WM 6.x phone that will ever be made, but it's still a WM phone. So that means flexibility and customizability, but it also means having to fiddle with regular ROM flashes to get basic things working, a severe lack of third-party applications, and inconsistency throughout. No HD2 ROM is stable, fast, and bug-free to an iPhone-like level, or even anywhere close.
If you want something that "just works," the iPhone is your answer. I just wouldn't spend too much time with an HD2 beforehand though-- the enormous screen may hook you .
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Why stop there? Why not wait for the iphone 5g or the HD3?
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Because I have jumped onto what was available at the time thinking that same thing and suffered through a crappy phone for a year and having Sprint completely **** me around over it. It's a complete crapshoot, I know. But I'm just trying to be patient with this and not jump on the HD2 just because it's there now, when we all know the announcement of the iPhone is less than 3 weeks away unless Jobs gets his panties in a knot. Just giving myself options between the two most likely candidates.
I can sum it up for you in 3 words...
"No Flash Support"
End of game...
flexibility <> performance
decide for urself.
but u asked for opinions, so..
a friend is using the iphone OS 4.0 beta3 on his iphone 3gs, for me, it suxx, i really dont like it..
i never recommend an iphone, cause its just a way too expensive for so less things
maybe u could go for android, wich is fast and stable on a device like the desire.. much cheaper and still better hardware than an iphone. i dont think the iphone 4g will get hardware like the desire or hd2 has...
i used everything, winmo, android, iphone..
winmo is really flexible, iphone is very fast without lag, but android got both.. its flexible and fast. maybe u should try this?^^
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Pfffff tired of those useless threads ....
if you want one , buy one or wait until it came out ..
But why the hell are you asking a bunch of winmo guys if it is a good choice...
What sort of answer are you looking For ?
to stick to the thread a bit more ....
Wait for 4G ! OR 5G ! or Ngage 4.3 or Nintendo 4DS phone (seems to be great
Sorry i'm not exactly friendly here ....
But .... i'm tired of that ...
To sum up the HD2:
1) One of the most powerful smartphones available.
2) The best chefs on xda cook for it
3) The best programmers develop mods for it (Co0kie's Home Tab etc)
4) Smooth operation
5) Great screen for movies and browsing
6) Overall a fantastic phone
7) You can play StarCraft on it
Yes, you could wait for the next iPhone. Or the HD3. Such is technology, that whatever you buy one day, will always be obsolete the next. Live for the moment, get the HD2, you will not regret it. Even if it doesn't perform exactly as you want in stock (I had practically no problems with stock performance thankfully) just get a custom ROM, make a few tweaks (excellent thread full of tweaks in HD2 General), and it WILL be an excellent phone.
besides talking, what do u use ur phone 4? which one can meet ur requirements as a user?..
Hey ! IT IS SO EASY !!!! BUY BOTH and THEN decide !
I would not by HD2 today. Because of windows. It's even worse since WM6.5 is becoming obsolete. HTC did great job with HD2 in masking WM. It almost seems like different OS. So I'm not entirely unhappy with it.
On the other hand I would not buy anything with smaller display today.
I would not buy any iPhone. Yes, they are cool, well thought out. Really lovely devices. But company policies suck. Also .. it is smaller then HD2.
It seems to me there is only one solution to this: Android.
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I can sum it up for you in 3 words...
"No Flash Support"
End of game...
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I prob need a serious primer in what I'm doing wrong, but I was attempting to play flash videos through skyfire just tonight over my home wifi - it was a freaking joke. Literally like a slideshow.
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I would not by HD2 today. Because of windows. It's even worse since WM6.5 is becoming obsolete. HTC did great job with HD2 in masking WM. It almost seems like different OS. So I'm not entirely unhappy with it.
On the other hand I would not buy anything with smaller display today.
I would not buy any iPhone. Yes, they are cool, well thought out. Really lovely devices. But company policies suck. Also .. it is smaller then HD2.
It seems to me there is only one solution to this: Android.
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Yeah, sorry - I forgot to say - Android is a no-no. Our IT dept (multinational, professional services firm so touchy about security) did extensive testing and Android doesn't meet our security requirements. Maybe when they get their **** together. We only just got the iPhone on our plan last year - partly due to cost negotiations, but also initially for security.
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Android doesn't meet our security requirements.
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That's interesting to know
Maybe u should check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679348
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so basically, what you have been waiting for has finally arrived.
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Yup.
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the thing is you always get wacky efficiency ideas in your head when you see the light at the end of the tunnel. (the tunnel being the contract, and the light being the upgrade).
even if its not about upgrades and youre just buying phones, its intelligent to question outcomes of alternative solutions to decisions you have made.
so basically you already have an iphone. the ipod is basically all the selling points of an iphone, without the phone. if youre thinking yes, but the new iphone will be better than your current ipod touch then i guess thats true, but then whats the point of having that anyway then?
if you buy the hd2 are you gonna buy the next gen ipod touch to compensate for not having an iphone?
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It's really more about having a phone that works more consistently. Nope will stick with my current iTouch - wife and kids usually keep it at home anyway.
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i think the hd2 has been pretty much been given the overall thumbs up by most of the world now its a pretty safe bet. look at how the reviews of the tp2 etc changed over time, the hype and novelty wore off and people moved on. the reviews for the hd2 are consistant now, even picking up as they come out on more networks.
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sense is not your only option...
also, what is your phone doing that you dont want it to? running apps while youre on the phone is a big problem for many people that can be solved v easily.
if you feel like youre fighting against the fault then that is because of the user interface.
it takes too many clicks to do a lot of things in sense 2.5 too.
shortcuts help a lot. getting small apps to toggle wifi etc and do what you do commonly make your phone muuuuch easier to use.
why dont you say what you mean specifically?
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I feel I made a bad choice picking up the TP2 that really only seems like an upgraded keyboard and bigger screen compared to TP1. Other than that, same ****ty internals. They made it bigger, but didn't change anything that would actually help perf. (clarification - I only upgraded as I have written proof they will let me out of contract for free if I'm unhappy for any reason because of how badly treated me on TP1) I'm sure part of the problem is the resistive screen, but tabs often don't scroll smoothly (like laggy as hell) and I end up not where I wanted to be, or have to get there in increments (click one tab, then another to get close enough to see music). That's another thing - wish winmo made someway to always get at music app quickly - can take forever to get back into it. Phone is just often slow - like last night I was trying to get back into mail and the phone just sat there on the home screen with the clock halfway between 11 and 12, obv hanging up for 15-20 secs.
But yeah, it's mostly inputs not working when I touch them, virtual keyboard being completely ****ty for quick entries, hanging, slowing down, making me wait for it. Just not as responsive as I'd like. Again, comparing its operation to my iTouch, just very different.
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yes but so does wm. there are stable versions of everything on wm that the iphone does.
you can install many different browsers. many stable and fast.
there are many different keyboards you can install on wm too...
different looks, different layouts, built in functions like copy and paste (by holding a key), shortcuts, numberpads, swipe, commercial ones, freeware, much more flexible. you can even put the iphone keyboard skin on your 'much better' screen of the hd2.
enjoy
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To sum up the HD2:
1) One of the most powerful smartphones available.
2) The best chefs on xda cook for it
3) The best programmers develop mods for it (Co0kie's Home Tab etc)
4) Smooth operation
5) Great screen for movies and browsing
6) Overall a fantastic phone
7) You can play StarCraft on it
Yes, you could wait for the next iPhone. Or the HD3. Such is technology, that whatever you buy one day, will always be obsolete the next. Live for the moment, get the HD2, you will not regret it. Even if it doesn't perform exactly as you want in stock (I had practically no problems with stock performance thankfully) just get a custom ROM, make a few tweaks (excellent thread full of tweaks in HD2 General), and it WILL be an excellent phone.
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Again, I lived for the moment and got the TP1 from my old tilt. Huge mistake. And Sprint knew it. And still jacked me around over it. I hate them.
Hello friends. I have had my hd2 for about a month and a half now and I have not gotten close to it. My last phone purchase before the hd2 was the g1. I fell for that phone in about an hour. I felt it was at that tome the best phone I had ever had and it was nice and snappy. I had it for 2 years and had no issues ever. Then the touch screen got numbed and it decided to work on and off. I was going to run out and get a new one but I decided that I should just get a newer model. I knew it was going to be htc but the hd2 rePly stuck out foe me. Huge screen Wich felt good in my bear claw hands. And it is so sexy. Hardware is top of the line. I thought I was golden foe at least another 2 years. Yea right. I can't stand this phone. The touch input is not responsive enough to let me type at the speed I feel comfortabl at. And the web browser is not even in the same leauge as the one on the g1. I feel that I got a phone that wasn't me. I feel so bad and it hurts bad. The problem is that I bought it cash on a whim when it was sold out all over for $600.I know a bit high but what can I do. I felt it was fair I figure two years of use is less than a dollar a day for top notch hardware was ok. But this phone is not working for me. I feel bad when I say. Windows mobile killed the hd2. Htc should release some android for this. It seems that windows mobile isn't really the best for me. It may be great but I just fell for android. Now I have this horrid phone and I don't even like it. I actually just got an iPhone 2g and I like it more. And I hate the iPhone but what can I say. I found someone who will take my hd2 and give me a 16gb 3gs and a samsung behold 2. Seems pretty good. I can sll the build for a couple dollars maybe 150 ish and then sll the 3gs for around 400 maybe and then get me a nexus one or maybe I will just hold on to th cash and wait for htc to release another great android phone for tmobile. And no the mytouch slide is not htc top for tmobile I hope. Maybe I should wait till end of summer for some special and then use my renew credit. Tmobile is my only choice. Common tmoble be tops in android again please. The only affordable provider that has 3 lines unlmt talk for $99. I can't leave them
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Hello friends. I have had my hd2 for about a month and a half now and I have not gotten close to it. My last phone purchase before the hd2 was the g1. I fell for that phone in about an hour. I felt it was at that tome the best phone I had ever had and it was nice and snappy. I had it for 2 years and had no issues ever. Then the touch screen got numbed and it decided to work on and off. I was going to run out and get a new one but I decided that I should just get a newer model. I knew it was going to be htc but the hd2 rePly stuck out foe me. Huge screen Wich felt good in my bear claw hands. And it is so sexy. Hardware is top of the line. I thought I was golden foe at least another 2 years. Yea right. I can't stand this phone. The touch input is not responsive enough to let me type at the speed I feel comfortabl at. And the web browser is not even in the same leauge as the one on the g1. I feel that I got a phone that wasn't me. I feel so bad and it hurts bad. The problem is that I bought it cash on a whim when it was sold out all over for $600.I know a bit high but what can I do. I felt it was fair I figure two years of use is less than a dollar a day for top notch hardware was ok. But this phone is not working for me. I feel bad when I say. Windows mobile killed the hd2. Htc should release some android for this. It seems that windows mobile isn't really the best for me. It may be great but I just fell for android. Now I have this horrid phone and I don't even like it. I actually just got an iPhone 2g and I like it more. And I hate the iPhone but what can I say. I found someone who will take my hd2 and give me a 16gb 3gs and a samsung behold 2. Seems pretty good. I can sll the build for a couple dollars maybe 150 ish and then sll the 3gs for around 400 maybe and then get me a nexus one or maybe I will just hold on to th cash and wait for htc to release another great android phone for tmobile. And no the mytouch slide is not htc top for tmobile I hope. Maybe I should wait till end of summer for some special and then use my renew credit. Tmobile is my only choice. Common tmoble be tops in android again please. The only affordable provider that has 3 lines unlmt talk for $99. I can't leave them
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Sounds like Verizon is a better choice for you phone wise, and t-mobile is your choice for coverage and pricing.
Although T-mobile has some andriod phones the other carriers have the top android/droid phones other than the nexus one. Now you have to find out what one is bigger to you and then figure a solution for the other. HTC will never give this phone anroid but it might be ported by a developer. But doesn't look like any time soon.
Its called the galaxy S. I really think its coming to tmobile just wait for it.
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Its called the galaxy S. I really think its coming to tmobile just wait for it.
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x2. if you're gonna stick with t-mobile and want to stick with a device that has premium hardware like the hd2, wait for the galaxy s to come out. 4" screen, front camera, rear camera. Super AMOLED display.
i also upgraded from a both a g1 and a mytouch to an hd2. however, i'm not on the same boat as the OP of this thread. i have grown to like win mo 6.5 more and more and have made all the necessary tweaks to make the hd2 the way i want it to run and look in terms of theme and performance.
perhaps you should try flashing a rom or find the necessary .cab files such as cookie's home tab to help you change your mind about ditching this phone.
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x2. if you're gonna stick with t-mobile and want to stick with a device that has premium hardware like the hd2, wait for the galaxy s to come out. 4" screen, front camera, rear camera. Super AMOLED display.
i also upgraded from a both a g1 and a mytouch to an hd2. however, i'm not on the same boat as the OP of this thread. i have grown to like win mo 6.5 more and more and have made all the necessary tweaks to make the hd2 the way i want it to run and look in terms of theme and performance.
perhaps you should try flashing a rom or find the necessary .cab files such as cookie's home tab to help you change your mind about ditching this phone.
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Exactly. I had mixed feelings about this phone when I first got it, and felt the same way you did. I paid full price for it (because of my hatred for contracts) and felt like I had made a huge mistake and instantly wanted to buy a Nexus One so I could shelf this device. But as I got more involved with the development community and tried different ROMs and 3rd party apps, I began to love it, not only is the performance better, but it is much sexier than it was. I still plan on buying a Nexus One (fandroid ) but by no means am I going to excommunicate myself from this device.
WinMo 6.5 was like an ugly girl with a great personality. You want nothing to do with her until you get to know her
But seriously, do not give up on this phone before testing everything out with it
Thanks for the responses.
I think that i have found the main issue with my phone. I have spbshell on it and i feel restricted. I think im going to just try and make my own rom. with what suites me. I also realized that i have a phone fetish or something. In my collection i have a G1, MyTouch 3g 1.2, iPhone 2g, HTC Hero, HTC HD2, Samsung Behold 2. I have to many phones. most recent was the iPhone 2g and it is not as bad as i thought. i was thinking of getting a iPhone 4 but i cant. I need to find a way to make this hd2 work for me. I hate the battery life also. o well,i guess i could just make a small 2000mah battery pack. that would fix things.
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Seriously dude, check out some different ROMs, and try Cookie's Home Tab. CHT actually mods the stock Sense interface, which is likely to work much better/smoother, and with less restrictions. Most of the ROMs available get rid of all the bloatware, and add speed/stability to the device.
I was in the same situation as you... and was seriously considering returning my HD2 and picking up the N1 instead. However, after installing several tweak apps and flashing Dinik & Miri's new ROM, I'm VERY satisfied. Works smooth, looks great, and has a lot of the features that I wanted from Android.
It really pays to do your homework, and spend some time modding your device... it takes time and trial/error to figure out what works best for you, but I'm sure you can get your HD2 running as you hoped it would. Just spend some time scouring these forums, and you'll find lots of good info on how to get the most out of your device. It can be a bit overwhelming, as a lot of the info is scattered throughout different subforums, but I'm confident you can find what you're looking for.
Also, it would help to know what mods/tweaks you've done to your HD2 so far, so we make recommendations on what you can do to make you happy with it (I.E.- ROM version, .cabs installed, etc.)
I took the plunge and traded it, I got a great deal. 1 iPhone 3GS and a Nexus one with a cracked screen. Now i have repaired the nexus one. I am happy with my trade. The HD2 had power but i didn't like it, not very fun to use. The 3gs is great and the nexus one is also great. true smaller screen but the ui is much better on both the iphone and nexus one. I wish tmobile would have something lined up for next year that is better than the incredible. If not i see no reason to stay with them. my contracts up in 3 months and they don't really have anything they could offer me to stay. plus the prepaid unlimited all on tmo network for $60 looks nice.
Glad to hear it worked out for you. I honestly love the HD2 and sleep with it nightly. But everyones different and uses different features. How you liking being a Machead?
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I took the plunge and traded it, I got a great deal. 1 iPhone 3GS and a Nexus one with a cracked screen. Now i have repaired the nexus one. I am happy with my trade. The HD2 had power but i didn't like it, not very fun to use. The 3gs is great and the nexus one is also great. true smaller screen but the ui is much better on both the iphone and nexus one. I wish tmobile would have something lined up for next year that is better than the incredible. If not i see no reason to stay with them. my contracts up in 3 months and they don't really have anything they could offer me to stay. plus the prepaid unlimited all on tmo network for $60 looks nice.
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Sprint carries the HTC EVO 4G, which is the same as an HTC HD2 except running Android, with an 8mp camera that can shoot video in 720p.
I must admit I wish I had signed for that instead, but I'm stuck for 2 years.
Evo's a great phone I just feel it came out at the wrong time. I think by Christmas it will be old news and we may see dual core's. Had it come out at the same time as the HD2 I would be liking it better.
YES this is a pointless rant unless you're someone thinking about going from the mighty Evo to tiny iPhone:
I loved the Evo when I got it on launch day. Screen issues x 3 and sluggish UI, had me looking at other options. After weeks of waiting, I got my iPhone 4G in the mail today and I'm sitting here with it turned on, right beside my Evo that's about to go back to The Shack.
I really don't know what all the talk is about across the web. Sure the iPhone screen is very sharp and looks great, but side by side with the Evo, to my good 29yr old eyes, I can not see any meaningful difference from about 10 inches away. Going to get my SLR and lighting equipment out and take some really nice side by side shots unlike all the Apple loving blogs do. The Evo looks much better in terms of the entire face of the devices. And I really don't think I'm going to be able to get used to this tiny little iphone screen. The Evo makes this iPhone look like a toy and this is after all the hoops I had to go through to get my hands on this thing today.
The iphone apps do look very nice; IMDB on the iPhone is much nicer than on my Evo and just like everyone claims, facebook for the iPhone is miles ahead so it seems in my limited testing. Then we have iTunes which is hated by so many but let me tell you that in a matter of 2min, I was able to sync ALL of my Outlook data to the new iPhone via iTunes with no problems or extra apps needed.
I was wrong! The Evo is one bad*** device and looks like a real mans phone where as the the iPhone is so cute and tiny......What was I thinking; I jumped through hoops to get Sprint to take back my Evo and allow me to end my contract 4 days late and att put me through a mess and half to get my order done and sent overnight after a week long 28 call mess with them (at least they gave me a $100.00 credit for my troubles).
I'm 6'1 and I have mid-large sized hands and the Evo is just right, where as the iPhone is so little and too narrow. I can see it now, I'm going to end up returning the iPhone and getting a new Evo (hope it has a good screen) or a Samsung Galaxy. I'm new to ATT and my first call was from my mom calling me from her land line, while I was sitting in my home office and sure enough the call was dropped right after I picked the phone from my desktop.
I really want to like the iPhone because the apps and some other features such as all the very nice accessories out there, are great and the battery life is nothing to look down on so I'm told. And I don't know the OS well enough yet but we'll see. I do know though that the lack of a back button on the device means that many apps have back buttons wasting space within the apps and then some app screens don't have a back button and so you have to click the home button and go home (but then again I guess the iphone has multitasking which I haven't tried yet). Also having just one button, seems like such a waste where as the Evo not only has 4 but they can do more than one function. I wonder if I'm the only person who doesn't like the iPhones one button that feels and looks like a button that is broken as in smashed in.
What in the world have I signed up for?!?!?! The iPhone is slick but the dang screen is way too small for these Evo and HD2 4.3" spoiled eyes. One last thing in my rant here; all the talk about the Evo being sluggish compared to the iPhone. Well that's not always the case. I've tested a few things and each and every time, the Evo can pull up the main settings screen, faster than the iPhone and it does the same with a few other screens I've tried.
I guess I'll take the iPhone for a 30 day ride and by then the Samsung Galaxy on all 4 should be out and new Evo's with better glue? should be out for me to come back to the land of Android..........
Yeah the iPhone screen is super sharp and sure you can see it from more angles BUT it's a phone! It's NOT a TV! Why on earth would anyone care about being able to view a phone screen from wide angles?!?!?!?! Even the Evo and it's big screen is still best for one person viewing at a time. If I want to share, I'll email contant to my friends phone or let them each hold my phone one after another. Just had to add that because of all the iPhone viewing angle hype out there. Which brings me to another little point: If you read about the Evo vs iPhone 4G on almost all of the big blogs, you'll notice that they claim that the Evo and the iPhone cost the same on a 2-year contract but that the iPhone comes with 32GB of memory where as the Evo only comes with an 8GB card and that you have to pay extra for a 32GB card. What they don't state is the fact that I paid 200 for the Evo and 300 for that 32GB iPhone. Now I'm pretty sure a 32GB card for the Evo can be had for less than a 100. Okay enough of my rant! Time to go to Radio Shack........
ILTR
all i see is Wahhhh yea i like jobs nuts ! wahhh wahh wahh
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all i see is Wahhhh yea i like jobs nuts ! wahhh wahh wahh
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Dude! Are you kidding me?! Did you bother reading anything? I'm stating that I'm probably coming right back to Android.
In on page one. LOL!
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Dude! Are you kidding me?! Did you bother reading anything? I'm stating that I'm probably coming right back to Android.
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I guess he didn't. First post on here and I was wondering if I should hold on to my Evo, lol. I've got a little light shining from under the bottom lip of the phone and while it does annoy me slightly, I'm gonna keep this baby.
I saw an iPhone 4 on my island (St Thomas) and it looked pretty great, but man, I enjoy tinkering, watching video, and music on my Evo. I also love how there are a good bit of free apps to do all sorts of stuff (and the pay ones are pretty darn cheap).
My wish-list is that there are more quality games (not Emulated) built specifically for touch and that getting good battery life didn't require either doing voodoo or running a custom ROM on the Evo. Oh, and that Froyo is pushed out to us -- officially -- soon. As for build quality, well, the device is already on the market so I hope the next one will be more solid at launch.
I hear what your saying. I have the 3gs and I bought the evo as my first android phone. The evo is just so much fun to tinker with. As I came to my thirty days I kept trying to decide what to do. At least android is in the iPhones league where as a year ago it was always iPhone hands down. Its actually nice that we have a tough choice.
I ended up keeping both phones like an idiot LOL. But knowing that I don't have to make a choice of which to keep I'm almost always playing with my evo.
I never really play or tinker with my iPhone. Its jaail broken but that's not even enough to keep thins interesting.
Sure the iPhone is nice software wise but I really want to be on the ground floor when android surpasses that iphone because it will.
Google has more resources than apple and apple is way too controlling.
Some ui improvements and some love from devs and this platform will be amazing.
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u just gotta get used to it man! give it some time and ull love it in no time!
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Dude! Are you kidding me?! Did you bother reading anything? I'm stating that I'm probably coming right back to Android.
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Don't worry about him. Spork is a decent enough guy but he's the king of snarky comments
I'm glad you came to your senses. Why people love iCrap so much is completely beyond me.
Two coworkers came in today with their new i4's... I cannot describe how happy I was to be the guy with the EVO
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I'm 6'1 and I have mid-large sized hands and the Evo is just right, where as the iPhone is so little and too narrow.
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Same here! I had a Hero before my EVO and thought the screen size was fine, except for the portrait keyboard. When I got my EVO I gave the hero to my mom. Now it drives me crazy how little that screen is whenever I have to help her with anything on it.
I don't think that I could ever go back to anything smaller than my EVO.
Haha, that makes 3 of us. I never gave the size of my hero much thought but to use my girlfriends hero now is comical. I can't believe how small the screen is and I never noticed how very recessed the screen is.
I was actually thinking the other day how spoiled I am with this phone already. U don't think phones could get much, if any, bigger practically but I think it would be hard to go back to a smaller device after this.
AshMa - everyone gets snarky from time to time. It's all done in good jest. Don't take it personally. I get snarky at times too. But it's only worth getting "cyber" angry over it
I am lucky enough to have different brands of phones given to me from my various clients. It's always a constant upgrade for me if I want it. The EVO is a better than some tech blog sites give it credit for. If we sat down and nit picked every phone we would find something. It just so happens the EVO got a lot more attention since many people wanted to make it a duel between IPHONE and EVO. The IPHONE suffers from some build quality issues internally as well as a flew blemishes eternally. No one company makes a perfect phone but APPLE has consistently made a better phone hardware wise through each variation. HTC can create a solid design like the Legend in regards to unique and art like. If that phone came with a 4" or a 4.3" screen I would not be on the EVO board. Well maybe
What makes Android great is its community. You will find that out more and more over time. The DEV's are not one or two groups who claim to be the best but a motley crew of Devs just wanting to release some cool ROM's.
The phone has been out just over a month and the amount of work the DEV's have put into it so far is nothing short of astonishing. It's only the beginning.
The glue has been upgraded so i think its a good time to get back in. Stay a little longer and enjoy the ride.
Seriously, get rid of the iPhone. Once you use a big boy phone, there is no way that locked down toy will be satisfying. The only thing the iPhone has going for it is aesthetics, and even that is lacking. It's basically a big launcher and that's it.
Anyhow...when I see someone using an iPhone I usually say "wow, people still use those", much like the RAZR.
I hear you, I think the evo is actually the best size for me. Even anything slightly larger like the dell streak or droid x is a deal breaker. Hope newer phones follow this form factor.
I was on the fence about returning my Evo.
I feel absolutely insulted by HTC, and the thought of them getting even a cent of my money infuriates me. I wanted to vote with my wallet, really I did. The 30fps cap topped the list by a longshot...but there was a list. I will never buy another HTC device again, sadly. Hopefully I'll pick the right device in the future. By 'right device' I mean the device that garners so much community support so furiously and so rapidly. Every generation of every type of electronic device there is 'that device' that gets a rabid cult following. This time around it's the Evo.
...That's a tough call to make, too, since the Android world is full of MANY hard-core followings. We're stuck with these things for a year...two for some. It'll happen.
But after I saw that massive support, the all-star dev community, the absolutely tremendous user/tinkerer community...and HUGE amount of IMMEDIATE action on the part of the developers....and the constant attention they give...
I mean, We've got Amon-Ra, JoeyKrim, Bugless Pete, Toastcfh, Flipz, to name but a few.... We've got all-stars from The Moment, Droid, Hero, etc etc etc....
There was no way I'd take this phone back. No effin' way.
I'm 31 years old...I grew up a nerd...started with phreaking, random hacking, programming, hardware hacking, video games, BBS's, the usual 'nerd stuff' for guys my age....I owned my own computer business....worked at a fortune 500....left the computer business. Computers just became boring. Found a new industry...
...But I really got into this smartphone thing, and I was wondering why. It's cuz this is the new (or soon to be newest) "BIG EFFING THING" in 'information', it's your PC in your pocket--for most uses.
That's exciting. This community is exciting, this phone is a blast.... 4.3" screen, 16:9, 1ghz in my pocket and a huge hacker community around it.
Iphone is a toy. You'll be back.
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If you read about the Evo vs iPhone 4G on almost all of the big blogs, you'll notice that they claim that the Evo and the iPhone cost the same on a 2-year contract but that the iPhone comes with 32GB of memory where as the Evo only comes with an 8GB card and that you have to pay extra for a 32GB card. What they don't state is the fact that I paid 200 for the Evo and 300 for that 32GB iPhone. Now I'm pretty sure a 32GB card for the Evo can be had for less than a 100. Okay enough of my rant! Time to go to Radio Shack........
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Cost the same on a 2 year contract? Ha.
Evo:
$199.99
16 gb memory card - $59.99 at a retail store
Plan: 450 mins (With unlimited calling to cellular customers) unlimited text and data - $69.99 *Also includes 7pm nights and weekends*
Premium data charge - $10
$80 x 24 = 1920 + 200 = 60 = 2180 Total 2 year cost
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$199.99 (16gb)
Plan: 450 mins. 39.99
unlimited text 19.99
2 gb data 24.99
85 x 24 = 2040 + 200 = 2240 Total 2 year cost.
So you pay less total for the evo, and get more for your money.
To get similar talk time on AT&T it will, cost you 70 for unlimited calling, + 25 for the 2gb data and 20 for the texting x 24 = 2960 Total 2 year cost
Almost $800 saved over 2 years AND all the data I want to use? Yes Please.
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first off that comment was a huge FAIL!!!
for the others that actually read it.. it was actually a really good read!
Dude...you gotta be way more concise in your posts...talk about rambiling.
IPhone4 looks so much smaller than 3GS...not so really.
Thanks Guys!
I read every post on this thread and I just want to say thanks guys for taking the time to read my post which was written very quickly as I was in a hurry to get out the door but I wanted to make sure I said something, just in case I didn’t get around to it later. And nope no offense taken by the first reply I was actually kind of laughing as I had posted and a min later there was that response. Just glad that I’m not hated here by all, for trying out an iPhone.
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I hear what your saying. I have the 3gs and I bought the evo as my first android phone. The evo is just so much fun to tinker with. As I came to my thirty days I kept trying to decide what to do. At least android is in the iPhones league where as a year ago it was always iPhone hands down. Its actually nice that we have a tough choice.
I ended up keeping both phones like an idiot LOL. But knowing that I don't have to make a choice of which to keep I'm almost always playing with my evo.
I never really play or tinker with my iPhone. Its jaail broken but that's not even enough to keep thins interesting.
Sure the iPhone is nice software wise but I really want to be on the ground floor when android surpasses that iphone because it will.
Google has more resources than apple and apple is way too controlling.
Some ui improvements and some love from devs and this platform will be amazing.
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YES!!! You’re right! Nearly 24hrs with the iPhone and I can already tell that this is a device that can and will get boring rather quickly, as far as the OS goes. I can already tell that it would be only the apps that keep the iPhone interesting. I’m trying to tinker with the iPhone but it keeps rejecting me around nearly every corner. Hahaha! And I too want to be on the ground floor. I want to invest; my time (learning an OS and how to tweak it), and my cash in the platform I believe I will be using in years to come. Sure I have an eye on Windows Phone 7, but MS has screwed up by taking way too long. I’m tired of reading about what WP7 is gonna do when others are doing things right now.
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Don't worry about him. Spork is a decent enough guy but he's the king of snarky comments
I'm glad you came to your senses. Why people love iCrap so much is completely beyond me.
Two coworkers came in today with their new i4's... I cannot describe how happy I was to be the guy with the EVO
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Oh no worries at all! I was kind of laughing at the Spork comment because it was a min right after I posted. I too liked being the Evo guy in the room. In my area we have 1000% more than our share of brainless people and it sure does look like they all have iPhones.....
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The glue has been upgraded so i think its a good time to get back in. Stay a little longer and enjoy the ride.
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If I get another Evo I am counting on this! The screen raising was my biggest and only problem that I couldn't live with.
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I hear you, I think the evo is actually the best size for me. Even anything slightly larger like the dell streak or droid x is a deal breaker. Hope newer phones follow this form factor.
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Even though at first (doesn't bother me any longer) I really wished the Evo was just a little thinner; I now love the Evo size AND design so much! I can put the Evo in my pants front pocket or even my shirt pocket. The size of the Evo just feels right to me and my hands. I have skinny fingers but I believe they are pretty long and I can hold the device with one hand and reach my thumb over the screen and connect with middle finger.
I read about people saying that the Evo and other devices like the HD2 are way too big. I have to wonder if these are teenage children who may be small with smaller hands. If I were 15 again, I might think the Evo was too big and the iPhone to be just the right size. Like I said, the Evo is a man’s phone (or a woman’s phone). Now having said all that, I think the Dell Streak looks too big. But it’s just a little bigger in than the Evo. So that made me realize that in the same way I think the Dell is a little too much, a lot of iPhone users (most likely children or adults with smaller build and hands), look at the Evo next to the iPhone pics and think just the same as I do about the Dell next to the Evo pics.
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I was on the fence about returning my Evo.
I feel absolutely insulted by HTC, and the thought of them getting even a cent of my money infuriates me. I wanted to vote with my wallet, really I did. The 30fps cap topped the list by a longshot...but there was a list. I will never buy another HTC device again, sadly. Hopefully I'll pick the right device in the future. By 'right device' I mean the device that garners so much community support so furiously and so rapidly. Every generation of every type of electronic device there is 'that device' that gets a rabid cult following. This time around it's the Evo.
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I really hope HTC will not only fix the small issues but also continue with an Evo II and III. The name Evo has the it factor and I would love to see it live on. As far as the 30fps, that was a downer but my Evo felt smooth to me and even though I tried the game NOVA, I couldn't get it to work but for me my smartphone is a business and lifestyle managment tool above all else and so it was performing in those regards just fine.
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Cost the same on a 2 year contract? Ha.
Evo:
$199.99
16 gb memory card - $59.99 at a retail store
Plan: 450 mins (With unlimited calling to cellular customers) unlimited text and data - $69.99 *Also includes 7pm nights and weekends*
Premium data charge - $10
$80 x 24 = 1920 + 200 = 60 = 2180 Total 2 year cost
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$199.99 (16gb)
Plan: 450 mins. 39.99
unlimited text 19.99
2 gb data 24.99
85 x 24 = 2040 + 200 = 2240 Total 2 year cost.
So you pay less total for the evo, and get more for your money.
To get similar talk time on AT&T it will, cost you 70 for unlimited calling, + 25 for the 2gb data and 20 for the texting x 24 = 2960 Total 2 year cost
Almost $800 saved over 2 years AND all the data I want to use? Yes Please.
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I agree with your math but I was just reffering to the up front cost of the phones and how it so very much seems like the tech blogs are out to use any angle they can to make the iPhone look better or at least as good in every department even when it's just not true. The up front cost of the phone (something that a lot of buyers consider to be important) is not the same for an Evo vs. 32GB iPhone even though these Apple loving blogs make it out to be. I've even read some blogs that lead people to believe that the Evo only has 1GB of storage memory, compared to the iPhone and its 32GB.
toenail78 said:
first off that comment was a huge FAIL!!!
for the others that actually read it.. it was actually a really good read!
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Thank you! Much appreciated!
rockky said:
Dude...you gotta be way more concise in your posts...talk about rambiling.
IPhone4 looks so much smaller than 3GS...not so really.
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Not sure what you’re referring to? If you’re talking about me, did I accidently type 3GS rather than SGS (Samsung Galaxy S)?
I thought about leaving the evo too after the third defective phone, maybe annother android device but NEVER NEVER let me remeat NEVER for a proprietary software using device such as the iphone. Just my $0.02
joshuadb20 said:
I thought about leaving the evo too after the third defective phone, maybe annother android device but NEVER NEVER let me remeat NEVER for a proprietary software using device such as the iphone. Just my $0.02
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Missing the Evo already even though its sitting right here. I like a lot of things about the iPhone but I can feel the walls closing in around me. I want to try and load non app store apps but it doesn't seem like jailbreaking the iPhone 4G is out yet.......This really is starting to feel like the Evo is a car which can drive any way you'd like and the iPhone is a train on tracks.......
And I realized why most people find it hard to use smartphones other than the iPhone. It is not based around the concept of 'iPhone is naturally easier because it just WORKS' but more along the lines of people have this notion that smartphones SHOULD behave/look like the iPhone.
For instance, when I showed my friend my Evo he looked at the screen and said "Where are the apps?" I said I only keep a few on the main screen that I use frequently such as SMS/Phone/Voicemail/Dropbox etc but the rest are in the app drawer. He said "Yeah... but that's gay they should all be on the screens" after switching from screen to screen only to find a few apps here and there I realized that people are accustomed to the clutter and confusion of iOS rather than the simplicity and organization of Android. It really seems counter intuitive to me. While the iPhone is a ****ing AMAZING phone (whoever says otherwise is a fanboy) it definitely loses in some areas to Android but people base their standards off the iOS which is a clear bias. I never knew how much of a grasp Apple has on the smartphone industry until this event. Coming from a Blackberry and having owned an iPod I found the transitions to be seamless but I also worked at IT for a long duration.
The conclusion I reached was that the notion of Android is harder to use because you need to be a geek to understand it is also false. Android is not more difficult to use, it is just different in itself. Turning on wifi on an iPhone is the same process. Downloading an APP is the same as well. Making phone calls and sending texts are identical. Hopefully we can see a growth in smartphone technologies that embrace the BEST possible user experience which I believe goes to Android for their sheer volume of phones as well as operating system capabilities.
Sounds like your describing that evo vs. iphone video on youtube and your friend is the character repeating "I don't care".
Are you happy with your device? Does it do what you want the way you want?
You are all that matters....
good day.
Kinda... but its not utter stupidity - more ignorance. What I am trying to say is that the iPhone has been the epitome of what a touchscreen smartphone SHOULD look and behave like.
I enjoy Android but I honestly got the Evo because of Sprints plan coupled in with unlimited bandwidth was a great money saving choice for a smart phone. Also, the fact that I can roam on Verizon meant I could get signal where an iPhone could not.
Honestly though, if I could get an iPhone on Sprints network with unlimited data + tethering as I do now for under $80 I would jump on that offer. Really love that phone and the game development is skyrocketing. I do enjoy the Evo, however. Cant complain about its amazing screen size and custom roms I can put in. Also the free tethering is nice
I guess your conclusion also explains why in every smartphone review, the iPhone is mentioned several times also.
Yup. Now if only we could get that phone out of the ATT deathgrip.
werxen said:
Yup. Now if only we could get that phone out of the ATT deathgrip.
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So you do want the iphone...
I'm not surprised that the iphone is the standard - there are a lot more of them than any other smartphone. And they're very nice phones.
That said, I much prefer my evo. Even if the iphone became available outside AT&T, I'm sticking with android. While the iphone has more games (and fart apps), android allows more customization. I'm also not limited to a single controlled app market. Finally, my aging eyes love the large screen.
My girlfriend has a mytouch slide and after having the phone for a week I was showing her how to use it and she didn't even realize there was a menu button. You miss out on an awful lot without using that button lol.
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bigmoogle said:
So you do want the iphone...
I'm not surprised that the iphone is the standard - there are a lot more of them than any other smartphone. And they're very nice phones.
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Pretty sure the BB curve still holds the crown.
That said, I am moving my mom from her BB curve to an EVO in December. I'll do the same with the EVO that I did with the curve. I will set it up so everything she wants is on the home screens. I'll give it a nice, clean look and make sure the fonts are right, etc.
She wants it for the big screen, not because it is fast, customizable, or anything else.
TheBiles said:
People forget that the average Joe is a moron.
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Or completely uninterested in technology. I'm sure there are plenty of people with brains and advanced degrees that could not care much less about stuff that is possible with their phone.
TheBiles said:
People forget that the average Joe is a moron.
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I prefer: Common sense is not that common.
I agree with the OP 100%. People are creatures of habit and don't realize that in the same way a PC differs from a MAC, an Android phone will differ from iOS based phone. I think that people will buy anything that has a lower case "i" in front of it just because Apple found a niche in the way they advertise. I don't have a problem with their products. My beef with them is based on their communist approach to business and the fact that they don't care about their customers.
Personally, I have never nor will I ever buy anything Apple. It has nothing to do with being an Android fan-boy so much as it is about being an Apple hater. lol Although I will say that my first experience with Android has left me wanting to kick myself for not switching over sooner.
rugedraw said:
I prefer: Common sense is not that common.
I agree with the OP 100%. People are creatures of habit and don't realize that in the same way a PC differs from a MAC, an Android phone will differ from iOS based phone. I think that people will buy anything that has a lower case "i" in front of it just because Apple found a niche in the way they advertise. I don't have a problem with their products. My beef with them is based on their communist approach to business and the fact that they don't care about their customers.
Personally, I have never nor will I ever buy anything Apple. It has nothing to do with being an Android fan-boy so much as it is about being an Apple hater. lol Although I will say that my first experience with Android has left me wanting to kick myself for not switching over sooner.
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I'm nebenezer and I approve this message
I made the terrible mistake of buying my g/f an iPod nano about a year ago. I really should have known better but she really wanted it. I got her hooked on Android with her Hero last Dec and she is now enamored with her EVO. My current challenge is I'm trying to convince her to let me see if I can hit her iPod with a .50 cal round at about 400 yards.
I'd settle for using my AR at 200 yards but the .50 would be so much more gratifying
nebenezer said:
I'm nebenezer and I approve this message
I made the terrible mistake of buying my g/f an iPod nano about a year ago. I really should have known better but she really wanted it. I got her hooked on Android with her Hero last Dec and she is now enamored with her EVO. My current challenge is I'm trying to convince her to let me see if I can hit her iPod with a .50 cal round at about 400 yards.
I'd settle for using my AR at 200 yards but the .50 would be so much more gratifying
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Bwahaha! My girl wanted an iPod for her birthday a few years back, and when she opened the box, there was a Zune in it. She looked at me as if I had just said something about her momma. After a week, she was loving it. She was able to remove that resource-hungry iTunes software from her computer (she had it on there because of an iPod Shuffle she previously was using but broke), and it made her computer faster, too.
If you ever take the .50 cal to the iPod, make sure you use the Evo to capture the event.
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Bwahaha! My girl wanted an iPod for her birthday a few years back, and when she opened the box, there was a Zune in it. She looked at me as if I had just said something about her momma. After a week, she was loving it. She was able to remove that resource-hungry iTunes software from her computer (she had it on there because of an iPod Shuffle she previously was using but broke), and it made her computer faster, too.
If you ever take the .50 cal to the iPod, make sure you use the Evo to capture the event.
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Yeah, I got it for her but with the caveat that it could only ever make a usb connection with HER COMPUTER.
I think I'll have to actually get her a raplacement before she'll give it up. I'm thinking either a Zune or a 16gb microsd card for her EVO.
Also, rest assured if I ever do get her iPod out to the range.. the event will be captured and shared
iPhone is a bit too easy and locked down for my tastes. I like being able to apply themes, change my Home app, etc. I think that alone makes Android look much better than iPhone. My iPhone friend who is an Apple fanboy agrees that the Android setup is much better and widgets are awesome.
Icons on icons is ugly to me. It's almost insulting.
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Yeah, I got it for her but with the caveat that it could only ever make a usb connection with HER COMPUTER.
I think I'll have to actually get her a raplacement before she'll give it up. I'm thinking either a Zune or a 16gb microsd card for her EVO.
Also, rest assured if I ever do get her iPod out to the range.. the event will be captured and shared
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Zune HD ftw. I have had a 16 gig since launch day. Sexy screen, light and portable, and best of all the battery life is ****ing outstanding. Also, the best music browsing/playability out of any device to date.
Yea, the Zune is pretty. Although to be honest, I would invest in a 32GB SD card for my Evo and use that instead of using two separate devices. While the UI of the Zune is pretty, I wouldn't spend the money on it when I have a phone I already carry with me all the time that can do the same thing.
werxen said:
Zune HD ftw. I have had a 16 gig since launch day. Sexy screen, light and portable, and best of all the battery life is ****ing outstanding. Also, the best music browsing/playability out of any device to date.
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Look dude, I'm not trying to start more shiz in another one of your threads.. I'm appalled by your behavior in your WTF WIFI?!?! thread, but that's another story. I'm asking you politely to check your language. You could have just as, if not more effectively covered your point without dropping an f-bomb.. Again, not trying to start shiz.
I have no experience with zune but everyone I know that has one LOVES it, and several of them have models that are OOOLLLDDD, so that says something to me about build quality. On the other hand, a big sdcard full of music would conveniently negate the need for another device to purchase and keep charged, but would likely mean I'd have to hook her up with another battery or two or an extended battery. Oh what a dilemma, now I have to research and purchase more technology
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Look dude, I'm not trying to start more shiz in another one of your threads.. I'm appalled by your behavior in your WTF WIFI?!?! thread, but that's another story. I'm asking you politely to check your language. You could have just as, if not more effectively covered your point without dropping an f-bomb.. Again, not trying to start shiz.
I have no experience with zune but everyone I know that has one LOVES it, and several of them have models that are OOOLLLDDD, so that says something to me about build quality. On the other hand, a big sdcard full of music would conveniently negate the need for another device to purchase and keep charged, but would likely mean I'd have to hook her up with another battery or two or an extended battery. Oh what a dilemma, now I have to research and purchase more technology
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Okay fine lets agree to be police to so others don't have to deal with it.
I was thinking about getting an SD card for my Evo but the only crappy thing is I want to carry my music around in places that I don't want to take my phone like the gym. Not only are phones prohibited in some gyms, I couldn't bear to accidentally drop a weight on my phone or get too sweaty and short it out etc etc. Although I love my Zune and it cost me as much as my Evo did, it is not nearly the same device as far as capabilities.
Plus, another thing with the Evo is you don't really need an extra sd card. Just setup Dropbox accounts and you're good to go. I have all my music on dropbox and I just stream it perfectly.
Not to hijack, but I also have a dropbox account. How are you streaming music to your evo?
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