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memory leakage

Dear All,
i'm using wm5, i noticed there is a memory leakage , i'm using batery status , every program i open memory decreases then when i close the program using resco task manager , the memory used by the program is not released.
is there any way to avoid this ???

Try using Oxios Memory to recover leaked memory.

I did but still not all the memory recovered , as example as i restart i have 21 MB free after using the device for 6-8 hours , i find the memory 17-18 MB , and i'm sure that all the programs are properly closed.

If you opened a lot of applications in those 6 to 8 hours then that is normal.
You can't just close the app and think that it will be like you have never opened it...that it will remove every bit from memory.
for example, I start with 24MB of free RAM after reset, and trough two or tree days it drops down to 19-22MB dependinh of which and how many apps I have started meanwhile.

Installed apps, even those stored on a SD card will create unneccessary files in the main memory taking some memory away. Check these locations to see if you can delete files from apps that are not needed for the app to run. (main memory) Application Data/Volatile, windows directory/app mgr./active sync (control log) several bytes can be safely deleted here. Look for programs that have been removed, but are still in the app mgr. folder. If files can't be found, use the app that newbie2 offered or this one. Works for me!

Same for me
Man i get the samething. I use the Oxias but it only frees up a couple hundred kb to maybe a few mb. Crazy that I can get it all the way down to 2-3mb of ram. I start with in the 23-26mb free range. I open the following:
Slide2Unlock by A_C
Iphone launcher by Grumps
PocketCM by Tene
I have softkey by water
and Hbutton running
I occassionally check my email and get a few text messages. Outside of that, not a lot of major memory usage.
Even with that going I start at about 21 - 23mb. How is getting down that low. And what will actually work to get it back?
CG

It could be that these programs you have installed are the cause. I think I recall seeing an issue like this related to Slide2Unlock. But the truth is, any badly/improperly written software can do this.

treo...not! said:
It could be that these programs you have installed are the cause. I think I recall seeing an issue like this related to Slide2Unlock. But the truth is, any badly/improperly written software can do this.
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Does anyone know of an actual GOOD program out there that will automatically dump the RAM cache at interval or preset limits?? And do it with a noticable difference??
I have seen others using Resco, task manager and few other programs but most people report the same problem. I know M$ has set the cache up to do this on its own but it is just not as affective as I would like it to be. I know that the short answer is to give up the apps I like. But, I would like to work around that if possible.
CG

hotdog53 said:
Installed apps, even those stored on a SD card will create unneccessary files in the main memory taking some memory away. Check these locations to see if you can delete files from apps that are not needed for the app to run. (main memory) Application Data/Volatile, windows directory/app mgr./active sync (control log) several bytes can be safely deleted here. Look for programs that have been removed, but are still in the app mgr. folder. If files can't be found, use the app that newbie2 offered or this one. Works for me!
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You can clear the Opera history & cache while in Opera, clear cache and delete files while in PIE. With the attached app, which I use ALL the time, can do all this with 1 tap. It also gets rid of your most recent program thst was opened from the start menu. Lots of items can be cleaned and eliminated safely allowing more memory. Check the box by the item/s you want the app to focus on.
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Phone Storage Memory

Hi,
I currently only have 4.98mb left of the 180.85mb total storage available on my device and am now getting 'critically low memory' warnings. I have not installed many apps or anything else to the phone and can't really understand why this is so high.
I had a look at the folders which are: -
Application Data 39.8mb
Documents and Settings 1.07mb
My Documents 2.77mb
Program Files 10.4mb
Windows - doesn't say but must be approx 115mb for the total to be correct? Is this normal?
Also, I have 115.06mb free of the 336.93mb total program memory available.
Is anyone else having similar issues? If the windows section is suppossed to use this high amount why has the phone not been allocated enough memory to deal with it?
Thanks
James

You should search a bit, but, empty the cache folder of HTCAlbum, Opera, etc.. in Application Data.

Thanks for the help. I have deleted the contects of the HTCalbum cache and Google maps and this has increased the available memory to 39.57mb.
Why should we have to delete cache data to be able to use our device? This seems a bit crap to me

Your memory usage is not normal- the HD2 has about 135MB free Storage Memory after a hard reset, so something has grabbed your memory somewhere.
I'd suggest downloading a small program called SpaceFinder which can give you a tree view of where the memory has gone sorted by folder size. It was designed for much older versions of WinMo but still works well. Some of the fiels it sees are in the ROM, but at least it will give you some clues.
Culprits for memory usage apart from the caches are music and video files- look in those folders to see if there's anything obvious.

Hello JJJJacksonjjjjj
Your problem is not new and has been reported many times on here.
If you look in the hints and tips thread in this forum there are a number of suggestions for clawing back memory space, which I suggest you implement.
Other thing is I bet you have been installing all of your apps onto the phome memory when you could have done so onto the storage card. If I am right then I would suggest you backup all your data using, say Sprite Backup or my preferred app which is SPB Backup, hard reset your phone and rebuild it from scratch, installing your apps carefully and onto the memory card instead.
Might sound a bit heavy handed but you will reap the benefits in the long run (If too drastic for you then deinstall and reinstall apps onto external memory instead without hard resetting).
I built my phone exactly this way from day one. Every app that gets installed gets assessed by me as to whether it needs to be in phone memory or not. If not then its straight onto the memory card (running an 8GB at the moment, waiting for the 32GB to come onstream and at at a reasonable price).
This, plus all the tips in the thread I mentioned earlier, have left me a happy bunny memory wise.
Good luck with it.
WB

Thanks guys, I am sorted now.
I downloaded spacefinder (really good program) and found out straight away that I had 30mb+ in Windows>Opera9>Profile>Download. I didn't know it kept all the downloaded cabs and pdfs etc you download (without saving), I thought these would be cleared when you exit Opera.
Also there were loads of facebook pictures in the temporary internet files of Internet Explorer! Why does it save all these?!
Anyway, I am now at 93.5mb free out of 180.85mb so all is good
Don't get me wrong I love my HD2 (and TP before) but HTC will never win over the mass market unless they sort out these kind of issues. Most people I know wouldn't have the first idea about all the messing about we have to do with these devices, and as a result they would have a sluggish, buggy device within weeks of normal use.
Without the help form you guys on XDA I would have probobly ditched the TP after a month or so, and I think I knew deep down I was being too hopeful, but I thought the HD2 would be free from the minor niggles I had with my TP.
That turned into a bit of a rant lol.
Thanks again guys.

...many problems are for cache of programs like htc album, opera, google maps...
...in this post there are many advice, and explain how to move the htc album cache to storage card
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600578
...i have a good result with SKTOOLS program, because i had the same problem with the internal memory
good luck!

jjjacksonjjj said:
Don't get me wrong I love my HD2 (and TP before) but HTC will never win over the mass market unless they sort out these kind of issues.
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Glad you're sorted- despite its age, I still always load Spacefinder as one of my 1st apps. Only 72KB and does exactly what it says!
Don't blame HTC for these issues- it is down to both MS and the application developers like Opera to define whether & where they store stuff.
At least the HD2 has a fair amount of free space- unlike earlier devices which ground to a halt because of these stupid problems.

Spacefinder download link please gents (google is not turning up what I am looking for)?
Cheers
WB

NeilM said:
Don't blame HTC for these issues- it is down to both MS and the application developers like Opera to define whether & where they store stuff.
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I am probably being a bit unfair to HTC, but a lot of the common issues most people seem to have are (as far as I can see) ones that HTC should sort - sms, pink camera etc (I didn't just mean the memory). How can they release a top line device with these issues and expect that users will check for and install fixes?
My point is that they are selling us a product; which they know things like Opera, the facebook app, HTC photo etc are integral to how it will be used by the consumer, so they should ensure these functions work reliably out of the box without user research and fixing.
I don't want to knock HTC (I wouldn't have any other device now), but there are always niggles that they should sort out before release

179mb of 181mb of device memory used

Hi folks, I am having alerts displayed warning me that device memory is critically low. I have tried going through all sorts of files in explorer but can find nothing to free up memory.
Any tips?

Welcome on this forum
I had the same problem with only 0.04 free memory !!!
I solved it by deleting some cache, like Opera cache...

pfedestarke said:
Hi folks, I am having alerts displayed warning me that device memory is critically low. I have tried going through all sorts of files in explorer but can find nothing to free up memory.
Any tips?
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do you happen to install a bunch of programs? Open up task manager and see how many are running in the background.

Open up task manager [...]
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I suppose he's talking about storage memory, not about program memory..

Many thanks. I am now at 169mb / 181mb. This still seems low. What do your HD2's run at?
This is my first HTC and have got to say i love it. It frustrates me at times but then that's all part of the ownership experience I suppose.
Thanks for the welcome guys

pfedestarke said:
What do your HD2's run at?
Thanks for the welcome guys
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You're welcome !
I didn't understand very well your question ? Do you ant the list of all programs I've isntalled on my Leo ?

lancelot54 said:
You're welcome !
I didn't understand very well your question ? Do you ant the list of all programs I've isntalled on my Leo ?
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No, I just wondered what memory was being used on your device compared to mine. Device storage

It's not the memory that is low it's the storage space so it's kind of pointless to compare it with someone else.

Stockage
- Total : 176.62 Mo
- Used : 146.69 Mo
- Free : 29.93 Mo
Program
- Total : 336.93 Mo
- Used : 189.80 Mo
- Free : 147.13 Mo

Try Importing any photos and videos using activesync. It worked for me, don't know why though

I went to delete cache etc from my phone but I cannot find where it is stored in file explorer... Can someone point me in the right direction?

You have to go into Opera and delete the cache from the settings in the software, the cache file is probably hidden.

mine were in [SD CARD]\Opera\Cache
I've deleted the full fodler and create again one.

Hello,
I have...
Storage
Total: 180.11
Used: 167.49
Free: 12.62
Program
Total: 336.93
Used: 173.36
Free: 163.56
I have cleared my cache in Opera and Explorer as detailed in above posts, I have next to nothing in My Documents on the device, and I have no programs running, so where is around 150 MB of my device storage being used?
I have even moved all of the pre-installed items from My Documents to my storage card. I get the pop-up message about freeing up some space quite often, each time I try something else to delete but I'm running out of obvious things to get rid of now!!
Any more ideas?
Is there a place I can go and look at the section set by for storage, rather than just all the files on my device?

facebook thumbnails, twitter thumbnails, album cache, internet cache, attachments from emails etc all could use up internal storage memory.

I had this same problem and found that it was the emails and attachments that took up all the room once I deleted all the old emails (about 70 emails in total) this cleared loads of memory, part of the problem is that some had large attachments.
Hope this helps

Move the opera cache and HTC Album cache to SD card
You can move both the Opera cache file and the HTC Album cache permanently to the storage card. Then you will find you have a lot more room in your storage memory.
Look in this thread (page 6 I think) for the cab for HTC Album cache http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600578 and this thread for how to move the Opera cache to storage card from within Opera:config http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601475&highlight=opera+cache

creed said:
You can move both the Opera cache file and the HTC Album cache permanently to the storage card. Then you will find you have a lot more room in your storage memory.
Look in this thread (page 6 I think) for the cab for HTC Album cache http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600578 and this thread for how to move the Opera cache to storage card from within Opera:config
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Thanks for the help, I'll give this a go later!

How come some people have lower total storage? Like the OP I have 181.23 MB total as well.

I copied the copilot folder from program files on the device onto the storage card. That saved me a pretty amount of memory
(It merges the 2 copilot folders, and you need to have to recreate the application shortcut manually, but no biggie).

Cleaning main memory

Greetings everyone,
I'm new here and relatively newbish to HD2 (have it one month).
Id like to know what can I do to free some space on my device memory?
All tho I installed quite a lot of programs, I always installed them to storage card, so my guess is since device free memory is getting lower and lower
every time I check or install something, it's got to be some cache from Opera, google maps or programs maybe, temp. files from rar perhaps and similar.
So does anyone know for sure what can I delete in my device memory, in windows, etc and not damaging system...
Tried search but with no result...

i'd also like some advice on this too.....

memory depletion happens due:
- opera cache (\windows\opera9\profile\cache)
- IE mobile cache (\Windows\Profiles\Guest\cache)
- htc album cache (\application data\htc\htc album\cache) which is the greatest. i.e. if u have a alot of pics, then everytime you view them, ur album cache grows bigger and bigger and depletes memory.
My advice:
- install clear temp....it's free
- assign the custom folders in clear temp to the above folders.
clear ur cache with a press of a button. done

also everytime u install a program even if only to sd card, some files are installed on ur main memory. Only way to remove those minor files is by a hard reset. You can then assign shortcuts to ur sd card installed applications.

bradaman said:
Greetings everyone,
I'm new here and relatively newbish to HD2 (have it one month).
Id like to know what can I do to free some space on my device memory?
All tho I installed quite a lot of programs, I always installed them to storage card, so my guess is since device free memory is getting lower and lower
every time I check or install something, it's got to be some cache from Opera, google maps or programs maybe, temp. files from rar perhaps and similar.
So does anyone know for sure what can I delete in my device memory, in windows, etc and not damaging system...
Tried search but with no result...
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Put your apps on main mem and the phone will be more efficient in its overall use of phone RAM. Mem card installation does not save any RAM or really serve any logical purpose unless the app will not install to phone storage or you have used it all up.
Mem card installation slows the phone down and why on earth would you not use the main storage mem when thats what its there for?

russeini said:
also everytime u install a program even if only to sd card, some files are installed on ur main memory. Only way to remove those minor files is by a hard reset. You can then assign shortcuts to ur sd card installed applications.
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Are you getting main memory and RAM mixed up?
Anything in main memory (storage mem) does not use up RAM therefore has no effect on it.

bradaman said:
Greetings everyone,
I'm new here and relatively newbish to HD2 (have it one month).
Id like to know what can I do to free some space on my device memory?
All tho I installed quite a lot of programs, I always installed them to storage card, so my guess is since device free memory is getting lower and lower
every time I check or install something, it's got to be some cache from Opera, google maps or programs maybe, temp. files from rar perhaps and similar.
So does anyone know for sure what can I delete in my device memory, in windows, etc and not damaging system...
Tried search but with no result...
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I found moving Opera Cache and HTC Album Cache really helped me a lot with the memory.
This is a good thread that will help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600578&highlight=move+opera+cache
RReckless

See also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
Tip 67
AND
delete google maps from main mem and make a fresh install with newest version on SD-card. This will also enable compass-direction to google maps.
Move copilot to SD-card with Resco explorer

u can try nd move ur cache folders to sd card but it all needs registry editing tweaks nd it may end up not working as for htc album cache for ex. so easiest is using clear temp my friend.

troed said:
See also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
Tip 67
AND
delete google maps from main mem and make a fresh install with newest version on SD-card. This will also enable compass-direction to google maps.
Move copilot to SD-card with Resco explorer
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In the tips, where it mentions "moving" things to the SD card there is no "move" option so if the folder (eg "My Device\My documents\My Pictures
") is cut and pasted to the SD card will the OS/Phone know to redirect/look in the new location?

russeini said:
memory depletion happens due:
- opera cache (\windows\opera9\profile\cache)
- IE mobile cache (\Windows\Profiles\Guest\cache)
- htc album cache (\application data\htc\htc album\cache) which is the greatest. i.e. if u have a alot of pics, then everytime you view them, ur album cache grows bigger and bigger and depletes memory.
My advice:
- install clear temp....it's free
- assign the custom folders in clear temp to the above folders.
clear ur cache with a press of a button. done
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nice little app, cheers for that......

pa49 said:
Are you getting main memory and RAM mixed up?
Anything in main memory (storage mem) does not use up RAM therefore has no effect on it.
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Of course not, I have some (I'll say advanced) knowledge in computers so I dont mix up some basic terms like this . I was thinking of Device memory (storage) not RAM. Since this windows mobile thing is relatively new to me, I wanted to know if deleting cache and temp. files does effect WM and Sense stability....
russeini said:
memory depletion happens due:
- opera cache (\windows\opera9\profile\cache)
- IE mobile cache (\Windows\Profiles\Guest\cache)
- htc album cache (\application data\htc\htc album\cache).
My advice:
- install clear temp....it's free
- assign the custom folders in clear temp to the above folders.
clear ur cache with a press of a button. done
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Thank you for this mate, just the thing I was looking for...
Oh, and one more question, I tend to switch themes made with HDWall frequently so when I install new theme, replacing old one, does it completely overwrite last one or I have enormous buildup of unused theme files on device memory?

russeini said:
memory depletion happens due:
- opera cache (\windows\opera9\profile\cache)
- IE mobile cache (\Windows\Profiles\Guest\cache)
- htc album cache (\application data\htc\htc album\cache) which is the greatest. i.e. if u have a alot of pics, then everytime you view them, ur album cache grows bigger and bigger and depletes memory.
My advice:
- install clear temp....it's free
- assign the custom folders in clear temp to the above folders.
clear ur cache with a press of a button. done
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I was a big fan of cleartemp but did not install it on the hd2 because I read on this forum somewhere that it not only wiped the phone's memory clean but also formatted the storage card!

bradaman said:
Of course not, I have some (I'll say advanced) knowledge in computers so I dont mix up some basic terms like this . I was thinking of Device memory (storage) not RAM. Since this windows mobile thing is relatively new to me, I wanted to know if deleting cache and temp. files does effect WM and Sense stability....
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OK
Just checking, because it's a common misconception about memory usage.
A lot of users think that installing on mem card will save RAM!?
Anf they think a lot of other eroneous things as well!

laguna33p said:
I was a big fan of cleartemp but did not install it on the hd2 because I read on this forum somewhere that it not only wiped the phone's memory clean but also formatted the storage card!
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works fine on my hd2.....

HELP! needed :(

hi evry1. need help quickly! My X2 main memory is criticaly low and i cannot find any files sufficient to take up 200 MB,WTF? im pretty sure that its some kind of a internet cache cuz like 50 Mb were taken while i was on youtube.Someone help ( I use Opera Mobile 10)

it sucks

well that does kinda sucks, most efficient way is to back up what you need and hard restart. but a quick temporary fix is to do a soft restart or run clean ram. for future references, make sure you save all apps on your storage card (there is a setting for this in marketplace too) also if you use "notes" a lot, save them on your storage card. just do a long press and click "rename/move" and put it on your storage card.
clean ram link http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cleanram.html

I would also try moving whole Opera 10 to Storage Card - then you just need to make a new link to Start Menu and everything works OK, tested =)

And use Schaps Advanced Config for to redirect temp & documents folders to storage card

My advice to install immediately two small programs:
Clear Temp and FastCleanup.
Both make a great job on clearing temp files.
Also good to look at "Error Report" folder in main memory
where appaently all the MMS data is saved.
Reinstalling all the software to the sd card is a good move.
Clean memory and all the cache etc. from all the browsers.
Remember all the downloads from Opera goes to /MyDocuments on main memory.
In my case everything is fine, the only thing which slowly takes away memory is SlideView - with each photo and video it creates thumbnails.....

+1 for Clear Temp