Amon-RA VS Clockwork - EVO 4G General

The difference bewteen the 2 and which one is better can anyone tell me thanks

Both are about the same. I've used both today while rooting my Evo. The only difference I came across is that Rom Manager, an awesome tool, required Clockwork in order to do anything. However, I'm running the Fresh ROM, and it isn't possible to directly apply any changes through Fresh Updater with Clockwork installed; the whole thing went to hell and I had to do a nandroid restore.

I prefer the latest clockwork atm because I actually has "back" menu options and backs up my ext partition on my sd card.

I use to prefer Clockwork because of how user friendly it was in comparison, and how you can search through every folder on your sdcard. But now I found that it doesn't completely factory reset your phone and wipe your dalvik cache. Amon-RA is what I have been using since I have found this out.

Beejis said:
I use to prefer Clockwork because of how user friendly it was in comparison, and how you can search through every folder on your sdcard. But now I found that it doesn't completely factory reset your phone and wipe your dalvik cache. Amon-RA is what I have been using since I have found this out.
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The clockworkMOD was updated a few days ago. I am sure that this problem you claim has been fixed.

Mecha2142 said:
Both are about the same. I've used both today while rooting my Evo. The only difference I came across is that Rom Manager, an awesome tool, required Clockwork in order to do anything. However, I'm running the Fresh ROM, and it isn't possible to directly apply any changes through Fresh Updater with Clockwork installed; the whole thing went to hell and I had to do a nandroid restore.
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You can download the update with the Fresh Updater, Click on apply later. The open Rom Manager and install from SD.

Thanks for all the info it sounds like it depends on the rom you choose to run and personal preference Thanks

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[Q] Easy way to update CM6

Hey all I was wondering if there was an easy way to update a ROM if you already have the previous version installed. I updated from A010 to A011 the old fashion way: save texts, apps, and contacts on the SD card and did a clean install of the ROM.
Would changing the zip name to update.zip then executing clockwork do it? Just a hunch
I think that if it's just an update like from a010 to a011 you can just tell clockwork to make the update without a factory reset (at least it works going from rooted default rom to the liberated rom).
What I mean is just go to clockwork and choose install from zip, and find your zip. I have no experience with how update.zip works.
I don't wipe everything when going to a newer cm6. Just clear your caches and flash. Worked great for me so far.
Sent from my cm6 Liberty.
bfinch said:
I don't wipe everything when going to a newer cm6. Just clear your caches and flash. Worked great for me so far.
Sent from my cm6 Liberty.
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Awesome I'll do that next version!

[Q] changing recovery type?

just a quick question...
if I change my recovery type, as an example if I change to clockwork using ROMmanager, will i still be able to use my previous nandroid back ups?
and while i know this might be somewhat subjective, recovery image preferences?
is there a "best" one? I am still using the one I originally used on initial rooting... RA-hero...
maybe...if not, its easy enough to flash the recovery back..
You can still use your old recovery images but you have to relocate them. Clockwork stores it's images in a different folder than RA did. However once you flash Clockwork you can just move your old ones to the folder that Clockwork uses and they will still function.
Just a mention, worked great once I moved my nandroids to the new folder. had to let it backup once to create the folder, but easy peasy.
and clockwork seems really nice Lots of features...
but one strange thing... when doing a datawipe for a fresh flash, it seemed to say it was wiping the ext part too? that was annoying, thank god I did a nandroid that included my ext part in the backup. :-\
the most annoying thing about that was when i flashed the Cyanogen rom, none of my apps on ext were there (obviously), so wondering, how the hell can i access the ext part for backing up apps before wiping?
Titanium backup is your friend. It'll back up your apps and their data. It might cause some issues if you are going to a different ROM when restoring the data though. You can try it at least. It's a fantastic little app.
that seems to be a fave 'round these parts, but i have heard of a few issues, like you mentioned...
usually I use Astro from app backup/restore. works, but kinda a PITA.
BUT! I just discovered something ****ing cool about clockwork...
since I did a nandroid that Included my ext part... when i went to install a new rom for SnG (****s n giggles), well the first time I had lost my ext part apps because clockwork wipes it, but then i poked around in the restore options, under advanced restore, it gives me the option of restoring a ext part from a previous nandroid, separately from the rest of that specific backup!
so, in short, what I am testing right now:
1) data wipe (inc ext part) with clockwork.
2) flash of Cyanogen RC1 (flashing a few fixes like VVM and kernel as well)
3) then "restoring" the ext part Only from a previous nandroid backup, hopefully restoring all of my apps...?
booting up right now, results in a few mins.
lol, just realized something obvious...
2.2 (cyanogen RC1) uses a Native a2sd method, not DTs method.... crap, lol.
so next thing is to flash that Darktremmor fix, then see if my apps show? or... anyone got an idea to transfer from ext part to the native method?
EDIT: well, that didnt work, stuck on bootscreen. fug.
OK, so I have decided I am Not a fan of Clockwork recovery... no, sir,.
Could someone point me to a "better" recovery? Like for DLing, perhaps a quick tut on flashing a new recovery image?
Please?
great "quick tut" on the Unlocker site, but I can't post links....
my fav. has been the "unofficial RA" Darch 1.7something, I renamed it "rad" for easy term. typing, so I can't remember the exact name, originally got it from link on Buufed thread.
currently using Darch's Godspeed, it's ok, agree about Clockwork, don't like it.
so what good is Rom Mngr if you don't use Clockwork? sure, it's a shortcut to recovery, but that's all, and I've got Quick Boot for that, any reason not to get rid of Rom Mngr?
i personally do not like clockwork at all.

[Q] Which ROM Do you suggest?

I'm looking to upgrade my phone to a custom ROM, but I'm not sure which one is the best for my needs. This is what I am looking for:
Fyro Update
Increased Phone Speed
Increased Battery Support
Adblock for browser and apps
Also, how do I flash my ROM? I have the drivers to connect my phone to my computer, and that's about as far as I got. Secondly, will I lose my apps and their data? I already have my contacts and SMS backed up.
Thanks guys
jt
As a shameless plug - I whole-heartedly recommend SyndicateROM. It'll fulfill three of your four features already (including ad blocking in apps and the browser), and when the OFFICIAL, FINAL (ACS prides itself on stability and feature-completeness) Froyo release is out, it will be updated right away!
That's actually the one I was looking at. Is there instructions on how to flash your ROM? Will I lose my apps and their data?
After rooting you'll need Clockwork Recovery mod(CWM). Look for a Dev who has created a root with a CWM install (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388).
1. Follow steps to root and install CWM.
2. Download a ROM and put it on your SDcard (Start with ones that have been around for a while and have been tested quite a bit. Avoid Froyo ones till you feel comfortable with CWM and Odin {if you ever use it}).
3. Reboot into CWM, BACKUP everything (this is key for your data to come back), wipe x3 (including cache)
4. Install ROM from SDcard(reboot, may take a few minutes to load for the first time)
5. Reboot into CWM, and advance restore (DATA only). reboot
6. Enjoy with all your data.
Hope this helps
Epic Experience + Phoenix is the best battery life I've had on any ROM.
Performance feels like stock, which is to say, this phone is really fast just as is and I don't think its screaming for better performance out of the box. Its not like it feels sluggish like the Evo does.
All these devs do great work! You can't go wrong with any of these roms. This belongs in the General Discussions section!
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Streamline8 said:
After rooting you'll need Clockwork Recovery mod(CWM). Look for a Dev who has created a root with a CWM install (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388).
1. Follow steps to root and install CWM.
2. Download a ROM and put it on your SDcard (Start with ones that have been around for a while and have been tested quite a bit. Avoid Froyo ones till you feel comfortable with CWM and Odin {if you ever use it}).
3. Reboot into CWM, BACKUP everything (this is key for your data to come back), wipe x3 (including cache)
4. Install ROM from SDcard(reboot, may take a few minutes to load for the first time)
5. Reboot into CWM, and advance restore (DATA only). reboot
6. Enjoy with all your data.
Hope this helps
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Hoping you can help me a little further;
1) Done successfully
2) Done
3) How do I boot into CWM? I installed Titanium back up, and ROM manager - not sure if that's needed or not
Thanks guys
PS, sorry for posting in the wrong section
tuttjs said:
Hoping you can help me a little further;
1) Done successfully
2) Done
3) How do I boot into CWM? I installed Titanium back up, and ROM manager - not sure if that's needed or not
Thanks guys
PS, sorry for posting in the wrong section
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camera button, down volume and power on.
I suggest you try them all and figure out what you like or don't like. Also try out the ODIN program so when you accidentally bork your phone you will know how to fix it right away.
Got it. I assume this is backing up to my SD card. Do I not wipe my SD card?
Thanks, this should be the last question!
tuttjs said:
Got it. I assume this is backing up to my SD card. Do I not wipe my SD card?
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The only way you will wipe your SD card is if you partition it for A2SD support. The factory reset wipes all your data and might be a good idea if you are going from one rom/kernel to another. CWM backs up to your SD card. I have about 6 backups and can restore several different roms if I want. If you try all the roms out and make backups of all them it will be easy to go back to what you want.
A program called ROM Manager will make it easy to rename your backups.

[Q] Do I have to format stuff before installing cm7 (update- solved, thanks!)

I am currently using the stock rom on my rooted g2, and I want to get cm7. I got rom manager premium, and downloaded cm7. At this point one of my friends told me that I should boot into clockwork recovery, format every option except the sd card, and then I should install the rom from the zip on the sd card, using clockwork recovery. He said that this would remove all the old system files so that the new rom would install cleanly, and that if I dont do this I might have problems running the new rom. I thought that rom manager does this for you automatically, as long as you use the option "clear data and cache" before you install the new rom. According to my friend, that option in rom manager (to clear the data and cache before installing the new rom) doesn't remove all the necessary things. Is this true, or does rom manager take care of all of this for you?
This is my first time installing a new rom, so I wanna make sure I do it right.
I really appreciate the XDA forums in general, so I want to thank everyone for making XDA my go to place for anything having to do with my phone!
htcg2 said:
I am currently using the stock rom on my rooted g2, and I want to get cm7. I got rom manager premium, and downloaded cm7. At this point one of my friends told me that I should boot into clockwork recovery, format every option except the sd card, and then I should install the rom from the zip on the sd card, using clockwork recovery. He said that this would remove all the old system files so that the new rom would install cleanly, and that if I dont do this I might have problems running the new rom. I thought that rom manager does this for you automatically, as long as you use the option "clear data and cache" before you install the new rom. According to my friend, that option in rom manager (to clear the data and cache before installing the new rom) doesn't remove all the necessary things. Is this true, or does rom manager take care of all of this for you?
This is my first time installing a new rom, so I wanna make sure I do it right.
I really appreciate the XDA forums in general, so I want to thank everyone for making XDA my go to place for anything having to do with my phone!
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your friend has the right idea. one thing I would add (prior to formatting anything) is making a nandroid backup of your stock setup.
also, don't rely on rom manager to perform any CWM recovery functions properly. anything that will be done via recovery (ie flashing a rom, making a backup, etc) should be done straight through recovery and not through rom manager. ymmv there, but better to be safe than sorry.
Thanks for the quick and detailed post. I already made a nandroid backup, and saved it on both my laptop and my phone, but I forgot to mention it in the post. I will go ahead and flash the rom diretly from clockwork recovery. Thanks a lot for the advice!
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
Oh no...
I installed cm7, and it looks good, but it looks like I don't have the android market anymore! What should I do?
You have to flash the Gapps to get the market etc.. download from the link and flash through recovery.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Version#Google_Apps
ostinq said:
You have to flash the Gapps to get the market etc.. download from the link and flash through recovery.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Version#Google_Apps
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Thanks! It works perfectly now! You're the best!

Newbie needs help/info

I have a T-Mo G2 and want to keep my Froyo image to reinstall later if I cannot get theGingerbread to work right. I want to make an image file that will restore the phone to exactly how it is now. I have tried all kinds of stuff, but am not able to make the "img" file so that I ca do a restore when booting...
Can someone point me to what I need to install to do this, and if possible some directions on what/how to create the "img" or restore file ?
I would be most appreciative, as I had to reverse everything from the OTA of Gingerbread, since too many apps didn't work, ESPECIALLY the GPS!
My current Froyo is a temp-root system.
Thank you all!
Aloha. .
I would do full root via the wiki, and then install 4EXT (the full one that's like $2) - it will keep your old stuff straight
Ditto on previous reply
Root your G2
Backup all your apps with using Titanium backup
Get Clockwork mod ROM manger or 4ext ( I prefer 4ext) and backup your stock rom. You can download new ROM CM7 for first ROM.
If you don't like the ROM you can restore your stock ROM with CWM or 4ext at anytime.
I have a theory that Ti Backup or any backing up of apps is a bad plan. I know you can do it no problem, and that it is a great time saver, but I have a strong feeling that this ultimately results in an unstable phone with mysterious force closes etc.
Even though it's a real pain, I think you are always better off reinstalling your apps from scratch after changing to a new ROM and wiping caches.
WTF? said:
I have a theory that Ti Backup or any backing up of apps is a bad plan. I know you can do it no problem, and that it is a great time saver, but I have a strong feeling that this ultimately results in an unstable phone with mysterious force closes etc.
Even though it's a real pain, I think you are always better off reinstalling your apps from scratch after changing to a new ROM and wiping caches.
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1. I have had zero problems with TB personally.
2. Without it your app data is gone.
3. Triple wipe, takes a few extra minutes and makes a world of a difference.
4. Do not restore system data!
5. Check md5 sums BEFORE doing anything!!!!
6. Make sure you have a recent nandroid backup and you'll be fine either way.
7. triple wipe before flashing anything including nandroids. Preferably with different wipes aka factory reset, superwipe+ ext4, then recovery wipe!
Just my 2 cents, it's saved my a$$ more then a few times...

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