Is debranding worth the trouble? - XPERIA X10 General

just received my x10a from rogers.. still waitng on my unlock code. was curious if it's really worth it to bother with debranding my phone? other than the splash screen at bootup is there much rogers crap in there? and there's nothing on the outside which is great...

killerskincanoe said:
just received my x10a from rogers.. still waitng on my unlock code. was curious if it's really worth it to bother with debranding my phone? other than the splash screen at bootup is there much rogers crap in there? and there's nothing on the outside which is great...
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Well... suite yourself. Actually you are right. There isn't much which could classify as "crap" from Rogers.
But, who knows what Rogers is upto? Actually the question you should be asking yourself is: "If it is really worth it to bother to ROOT your X10a"

I'm on rogers too and I derbanded and rooted. It's not really that big of a hassle and you get to remove moxier and that's basically what I wanted to take off. Other than that, not much "crap" on the rogers firmware. So it's up to you. Don't really get much out of rooting other than being able to remove some apps and installing some apps that require root to work like set cpu and titanium backup.

To answer your question, no, it's not worth it since Rogers firmware does not contain much branded content. It only has:
1. Startup Rogers Screen
2. Rogers MyAccount (Good to use if you're on Rogers)
3. urMusic Plugin (in Mediascape, if it's unbranded, it's PlayNow)
4. Shop (?? don't use it)
That's pretty much it. The rest looks stock to me.
The better question is, is it worth it to ROOT the phone. That's a question you would need to ask yourself if you want it.

I personally don't see much of a reason to root either. For me, it is not complete root because the SPL (second program loader) has not been hacked yet. Without that access, custom roms based on higher versions of Android are not available.

well thanks for the reply's i'm def interested in root. but probably not until the bootloader has been hacked. however my biggest concern with debranding was having to wait longer for an OTA update. i don't mind seeing rogers when i start up the phone anyway.

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How do you like your Xperia rooted?

I just picked my first Xperia it's the X10i will be using on Tmobile USA, I love Android but am not fond of the Sony software on the phone, I'm planning on having it rooted today to 2.1
Just wanted to get any opinions of those of you who have rooted X10
Thanks
i had mine rooted for about 3 days, but due to there being a problem with installing apps form sd card after root, i soon flashed it back,,,i do miss my root programs thou,
I like the Phone, I don't like all the Sony software, I prefer the Google experience style Android if that makes sense.
Bargsbeer said:
...rooted today to 2.1...
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Good luck trying.
I do like my moxierless phone a lot.
Bargsbeer said:
I just picked my first Xperia it's the X10i will be using on Tmobile USA, I love Android but am not fond of the Sony software on the phone, I'm planning on having it rooted today to 2.1
Just wanted to get any opinions of those of you who have rooted X10
Thanks
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Are you sure is a X10i? I think is a X10a, check it to be sure.
You can root your phone but... to Android 1.6-R2BA026. Read the android development section for X10 before you make a mistake and fall to the yellow triangle or to a brick phone.
I like my root for only 2 reasons, apps that require root ( Titanium Backup, ShootMe...) and because I have removed all the apps that I dont need/want. And thats it, I dont want any half working custom ROM solutions since all of them on other phones have some things that dont work at all or barely work. Hope this 2.1 will be rooted when it is out and I will be happy.
Yes its.the x10i im typing this.on it now Tmobile 3G works.
I was under the impression it could be.rooted to android 2.1???
If not can i atleast have it rooted to get rid of all the sony software?
Bargsbeer said:
I was under the impression it could be.rooted to android 2.1???
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Not sure where you got that from.
Bargsbeer said:
If not can i atleast have it rooted to get rid of all the sony software?
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Have a read of this thread - forum.xda-developers.com
The X10 is a great piece of hardware. SE's software on the other hand leaves alot to be desired. Root is perfect as you can have the gear without the crap. R2BA026 is also a wonderful firmware, and far better than the 016 firmware that Rogers is still stuck at.
saltorio said:
The X10 is a great piece of hardware. SE's software on the other hand leaves alot to be desired. Root is perfect as you can have the gear without the crap. R2BA026 is also a wonderful firmware, and far better than the 016 firmware that Rogers is still stuck at.
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Forgive me for my ignorance, I don't know much about rooting. I'm actually going to pay someone to root it for me. If what I have read so far is correct I can root it to 1.6 and at the same time remove all the Sony software crap and just keep the google/Android stuff?
Thanks
Bargsbeer said:
Forgive me for my ignorance, I don't know much about rooting. I'm actually going to pay someone to root it for me. If what I have read so far is correct I can root it to 1.6 and at the same time remove all the Sony software crap and just keep the google/Android stuff?
Thanks
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Yep. No matter what you do at this point, you're stuck with Android 1.6. Rooting doesn't change that (at this point in time). What rooting does is allow you access to the OS files themselves, and thereby you can remove the apps you don't want (which can't be uninstalled normally as they are part of SE's base OS on the X10).
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Yep. No matter what you do at this point, you're stuck with Android 1.6. Rooting doesn't change that (at this point in time). What rooting does is allow you access to the OS files themselves, and thereby you can remove the apps you don't want (which can't be uninstalled normally as they are part of SE's base OS on the X10).
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I could deal with 1.6 as long as I can remove the sony crap. Another question I have had the Nexus 1 rooted and G1 Rooted both I paid someone to do, I heard the X10 is easy to brick is this true or just like anything you try to root there is always a risk?
After having root and learning a couple things I wouldn't go back. As for 2.1 not yet. The dev community is going straight to 2.2.
Why would you pay? Learn how to do it yourself. It takes time, patience and following instructions properly.
The upsides to root right now. You can un-SE your phone (changing themes and removing apps). But if you don't know how to root your phone you wont know how to mod your phone to your liking.
gavriel18 said:
Learn how to do it yourself. It takes time, patience and following instructions properly.
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+1. I love having mine rooted, and wouldn't look back. I joined the forum as I was new to Android and wanted to learn how to customize my phone to my liking, and still learning new things, tips and tricks.
just fyi...the X10 is almost impossible to brick, one thing you can thank SE for
Thanks for all the responses, This makes me way more comfortable. I love the hardware it's a beast of a phone. This is all a learning process for me I had a Nexus One that I eventually learned how to install ROMs with ROM manager, I'm hoping in time with the X10 I can do the same.
Just curious what SE apps or programs do all advise deleting?
rvictorg said:
just fyi...the X10 is almost impossible to brick, one thing you can thank SE for
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Yeah, even the guys who developed the root method didn't actually brick the X10 as they tried to crack it, from what I remember reading. The worst is that you get the yellow exclamation mark and then have to re-do the first step in the root method to bring you back to the original release firmware (016 iirc, or maybe 014).
I definitely agree with some of the other posters that you're much better off doing it yourself. Once you learn how it's pretty straightforward, and with new firmwares being released pretty often you won't want to pay someone every time to update your firmware.
Just read the root instructions a few times, make sure to download the files before you start, and take your time.
Bargsbeer said:
I like the Phone, I don't like all the Sony software, I prefer the Google experience style Android if that makes sense.
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The sony software is what makes the X10 an X10, why would you even want the phone then, besides its good looks ?
Bargsbeer said:
I could deal with 1.6 as long as I can remove the sony crap. Another question I have had the Nexus 1 rooted and G1 Rooted both I paid someone to do, I heard the X10 is easy to brick is this true or just like anything you try to root there is always a risk?
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The X10 and the Nexus One are identical in terms of its hardware, minus the camera MP. The Nexus One is a great learning tool for rooting and modifying an Android because its the closest you can get to Android OS straight up and Google allowed you to unlock the bootloader. I rooted the X10 as soon as it was made available and it was just as easy. I did get the yellow exclamation mark and getting it fixed was easy to.
Definitely, definitely root the phone yourself and learn things yourself, otherwise, get an iPhone and let Steve Jobs control your phone for you.
****nab said:
The sony software is what makes the X10 an X10, why would you even want the phone then, besides its good looks ?
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Maybe it's the best phone your carrier offers (such as with Rogers), and you couldn't afford a new phone contract-free? Maybe you like the look? Maybe you wanted a phone with a 4" display and 8MP camera? There are lots of reasons to want the X10... the SE software is just one of them.
cue_32 said:
The X10 and the Nexus One are identical in terms of its hardware, minus the camera MP.
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Not quite. Different amount of RAM, different amount of phone storage, different screen size, screen resolution, and touch digitizer.

[Q] Why root?

So I am really liking the aria , but I am wondering what more could I do with it if I root it. So can someone tell me the pros and cons of rooting. I hear that rooting takes some time so is it worth it. What roms can I run, and will I be disappointed when running them because they crash. Thanks
Rooting the Aria takes around 15 minutes if you do it right (use the unrevoked method).
Pros-custom ROMs, add your own mods, etc.
Cons-voids warranty (supposedly...I've heard HTC won't deny your claim)
There's probably more of each, but they don't apply unless you're into programming.
There are two main custom ROMs for the aria:
Liberated-removes ATT bloatware, enables sideloading...great ROM when I used it, won't crash (under normal circumstances) because its basically stock. Great if you like Sense.
Cyanogenmod-no Sense, adds new customizabillity, no bloatware/sideloading block/etc...also great, you might experience small problems with GPS and bluetooth (just from what I've heard) but nothing major.
You can check out the Aria Development forum here for more information.
I still haven't done it with mine, even though I had my G1 rooted and running cyanogen within a day. The difference? The G1 wasn't completely functional stock; the Aria is. As I had to go on a 5 week tour of Central Asia right after I got the Aria, all I did was unlock for a parade of strange sim cards. It falls into the "not broke, don't fix" category.
That said, now that I'm back for a little while I'll probably root and at least put liberated on it. The att apps don't take much room or cause any trouble; it's just knowing that they're there and can't be taken off...
If that makes sense to you, root.
If not, don't. The phone works great and has less, well, "idiosyncrasies," shall we say, than cyanogenmod ever did.
When you root can u get the htc stock rom if you dont want the custom ones
Sent from my HTC Aria
sunny342 said:
When you root can u get the htc stock rom if you dont want the custom ones
Sent from my HTC Aria
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indeed you may
Just root and have fun with it. You will get all the information you need from the good folks here. Your phone will be all it can be when you release it form the restrictions of ATT and HTC.
ill do it when i have time i guess there is no harm, but right now im busy with college apps
Unrevolked only takes 5min.

[Q] Is the desire z worth it? And also rooting?

Iv been a nokia user all my life, love trying new things with my device.
Now finally Iv decided to shift, I am getting a HTC Desire Z this week for approx $500.
Is it worth that much?
If i do need a qwerty keypad, is there any other phone better than this one in the market?
Also im totally new to rooting and roms stuff,
How much of a difference is it to root the device?(the HTC sense UI is already pretty awesome and customizable from the reviews iv seen)
Is it worth the risk?
idk if they have craigslist wherever you're from, but i can find one right now for around $250
The device is not on craiglist here, 500$ is cheap i guess(its unlocked to any carrier here),
Another small doubt, can anyone share a link on how to root the desire z, all i can find is for g2(i read somewhere its not the same)
navkaranchadha said:
The device is not on craiglist here, 500$ is cheap i guess(its unlocked to any carrier here),
Another small doubt, can anyone share a link on how to root the desire z, all i can find is for g2(i read somewhere its not the same)
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The best guide for both is the Gfree root, s-off and super CID thread in the development forum.
The most up-to-date guide for rooting, which covers all Vision phones (both G2 and Desire Z) is in the Wiki - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
Whether to root or not is a very personal choice. But even if you don't want to load custom ROMs, there are still some things that can only be done on rooted phones. Some software, like ShootMe and Titanium Backup only work on rooted phones. Also, if your version of the Desire Z has any bloatware, it needs to be rooted to remove it.
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Whether to root or not is a very personal choice. But even if you don't want to load custom ROMs, there are still some things that can only be done on rooted phones. Some software, like ShootMe and Titanium Backup only work on rooted phones. Also, if your version of the Desire Z has any bloatware, it needs to be rooted to remove it.
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But what all do i lose on the desire z on rooting it.?
Does the sense UI remain the exactly same?
Also is it possible to kind of unroot it later on for warranty issues n stuff?
navkaranchadha said:
But what all do i lose on the desire z on rooting it.?
Does the sense UI remain the exactly same?
Also is it possible to kind of unroot it later on for warranty issues n stuff?
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You can possibly lose warranty,.... only if something goes horribly wrong and you cant unroot again, but in usual cases, yes you can unroot for warranty purposes.
You can still use full SenseUI,... But you dont have to if you dont want,... thats the beauty.
navkaranchadha said:
But what all do i lose on the desire z on rooting it.?
Does the sense UI remain the exactly same?
Also is it possible to kind of unroot it later on for warranty issues n stuff?
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Typically, if it is so buggered that you can't "unroot" it, then they won't be able to tell that you did anything to it to begin with.
Root does NOT take anything away... what root is, is simply GODLIKE POWER. Being GOD doesn't limit your freedom, it ENHANCES it.
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Typically, if it is so buggered that you can't "unroot" it, then they won't be able to tell that you did anything to it to begin with.
Root does NOT take anything away... what root is, is simply GODLIKE POWER. Being GOD doesn't limit your freedom, it ENHANCES it.
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Well, I don't know about "godlike", but it is fun to have "superuser" privilege
All rooting does, is give you privilege/permission to access the operating system files. It does not actually change any files or take away anything. Its very unlikely to mess up your phone rooting as long as you follow the instruction carefully. And to me, the benefits are well worth the risk.
One more benefit I forgot to mention before, is that overclocking the CPU is only possible on a rooted phone.
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Well, I don't know about "godlike", but it is fun to have "superuser" privilege
All rooting does, is give you privilege/permission to access the operating system files. It does not actually change any files or take away anything. Its very unlikely to mess up your phone rooting as long as you follow the instruction carefully. And to me, the benefits are well worth the risk.
One more benefit I forgot to mention before, is that overclocking the CPU is only possible on a rooted phone.
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I read somewhere in xda, that the phone loses htcsense.com feature, htc locations and some other sense specific feature. Is it so? Iv had my nokia rooted, i know what it feels like, but these few htc features are the ones that sold me on it. Dont want them to go.
Also the phone data, do i lose it on rooting?
and whats the diff between gfree and hboot?
Sorry im new at all this, still researchin on the xda forums.
navkaranchadha said:
I read somewhere in xda, that the phone loses htcsense.com feature, htc locations and some other sense specific feature. Is it so? Iv had my nokia rooted, i know what it feels like, but these few htc features are the ones that sold me on it. Dont want them to go.
Also the phone data, do i lose it on rooting?
and whats the diff between gfree and hboot?
Sorry im new at all this, still researchin on the xda forums.
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I dont have a desire z, so I cant answer with 100% certainty. But I have a rooted G2 with a Desire Z Sense rom on it and htcsense.com seemed to work, but I turned it off as I hated it.
navkaranchadha said:
I read somewhere in xda, that the phone loses htcsense.com feature, htc locations and some other sense specific feature. Is it so? Iv had my nokia rooted, i know what it feels like, but these few htc features are the ones that sold me on it. Dont want them to go.
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I highly doubt that htcsense.com can tell if you are rooted or not. You certainly don't lose HTC Locations or any of the other stuff, it all works fine still. Don't worry.
htcsense.com is actually very flaky at the moment, and HTC admit they are still working on it. So it doesn't work very well anyway for a lot of people, rooted or not.
Also the phone data, do i lose it on rooting?
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No, you don't lose any data on rooting. Unless the rooting goes so badly wrong (extremely unlikely if you use the method in the Wiki) and have to flash a ROM again to recover.
and whats the diff between gfree and hboot?
Sorry im new at all this, still researchin on the xda forums.
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hboot is the bootloader on your phone. You can "see" it if you have the phone powered off (not just asleep, you need to turn off the "fast boot" feature in Menu->Settings->Applications or pull the battery), then hold Volume Down then press Power till it turns on. There is an "eng" (engineering) version of hboot that gives you a few more flashing/recovery functions, but that's not essential to start with, ignore that for now.
gfree is a utility that can be used in rooting and primarily for achieving a full S-OFF on your phone, plus SIM unlock and "superCID" - see more details at http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...Subsidy_Unlock.2C_SuperCID.2C_and_Radio_S-OFF

HTC Desire HD (vodafone UK) help!!!! (Resolved – unbranded)

hi,
I just got my Desire HD.
andriod ver: 2.2.1
baseband ver: 12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2
kernel: 2.6.32.21-g1e30168
software ver: 1.75.161.2
i want to root the phone and get all this damn vodafone bloatware off the phone.
before i do this i want to get the Vodafone_UK RUU. Does anyone know where i can get the file?
**Resolved – unbranded!!!!!!!**
thx to everyone who helped!!!!!!!!
i did the following...
created gold card
http://android.modaco.com/content/general-discussion/305672/creating-a-goldcard/
or
http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/
did the downgrade as i was on 1.7x
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841207
Mrjonnyrock,
Im on Vodafone UK and my phone arrived anbranded. Im currently on stock 1.72.405.3. I think the bloatware (Facebook, twitter etc) is actually HTC standard bloatware rather than Vodafone. I originally rooted using the one click method and removed all such software. You will need to follow the down grade threads to return to 1.32.405.6 to use such a method though but it isnt that easy.
Heed the warnings though as removing such software blocks HTC's OTA updates (I learnt that the hard way).
A programme like LauncherPro will enable you to hide unwanted apps from your app drawer. I know thats not permanent and they still exist in some alternative reality but if you are only going to root to remove those apps rather than run a custom rom it may be simpler and easier in the long run.
Just my opinion though.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841207
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thx, but i can not access any of those links.
Lankius Maximus said:
Mrjonnyrock,
Im on Vodafone UK and my phone arrived anbranded. Im currently on stock 1.72.405.3. I think the bloatware (Facebook, twitter etc) is actually HTC standard bloatware rather than Vodafone. I originally rooted using the one click method and removed all such software. You will need to follow the down grade threads to return to 1.32.405.6 to use such a method though but it isnt that easy.
Heed the warnings though as removing such software blocks HTC's OTA updates (I learnt that the hard way).
A programme like LauncherPro will enable you to hide unwanted apps from your app drawer. I know thats not permanent and they still exist in some alternative reality but if you are only going to root to remove those apps rather than run a custom rom it may be simpler and easier in the long run.
Just my opinion though.
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There are a bunch of stupid demo games and other crap installed including vodafone 360, rubbish that i want to get off.
Why put this crap on a device? Its like the laptop OEMs, installing all the crap under the sun to make some extra cash. I am not offered my device for less money, but they get my money and money form advertisers.
WHEN THE BLOODY HELL WILL THESE PEOPLE LEARN. WE DON'T WANT YOUR CRAP SOFTWARE INSTALLED ON DEVICES THAT WE PAY A LOT OF MONEY FOR. why must i have stuff installed on a device that i do not want with no way of getting it off the device. I pay for the device i should have the right to choose what i want on it and not be forced accept having the stuff forced on me.
i have had the phone for a day now and if i don't find a way of getting this crap off the phone without voiding my warranty, it will go back to vodafone.
mrjonnyrock said:
thx, but i can not access any of those links.
There are a bunch of stupid demo games and other crap installed including vodafone 360, rubbish that i want to get off.
Why put this crap on a device? Its like the laptop OEMs, installing all the crap under the sun to make some extra cash. I am not offered my device for less money, but they get my money and money form advertisers.
WHEN THE BLOODY HELL WILL THESE PEOPLE LEARN. WE DON'T WANT YOUR CRAP SOFTWARE INSTALLED ON DEVICES THAT WE PAY A LOT OF MONEY FOR. why must i have stuff installed on a device that i do not want with no way of getting it off the device. I pay for the device i should have the right to choose what i want on it and not be forced accept having the stuff forced on me.
i have had the phone for a day now and if i don't find a way of getting this crap off the phone without voiding my warranty, it will go back to vodafone.
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Yeah you'll have to wait. The guy hit is bandwidth quote
mrjonnyrock said:
i have had the phone for a day now and if i don't find a way of getting this crap off the phone without voiding my warranty, it will go back to vodafone.
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Nope, flashing the phone with a different ROM is going to void your warranty, Vodafone put this crap on your phone as it makes them money, so it is there vested interest to insist that it stays put
ghostofcain said:
Nope, flashing the phone with a different ROM is going to void your warranty, Vodafone put this crap on your phone as it makes them money, so it is there vested interest to insist that it stays put
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i thought as much My original HTC Desire had to go back to HTC for repairs and this could take longer than a week. the phone did not really have much crap on it. i guess this because there is not much memory on the phone to install crap. I did not think that the Desire HD would come loaded with rubbish so did not even think about that.
Can i deal directly with HTC if there are any hardware issues with the phone? or would it have to go back via vodafone?
Vodafone have bad habits of doing this to people so this is hardly surprising. I got my DHD a couple weeks after release and theres no bloatware on it, but i had a feeling they were going to, so I got it early. But Google in their infinite wisdom said that 2.3/2.4 android will make things easier for mobile companies to brand the phones.
i do understand the guy....
i have a desire which i bought via ebay and got it unlocked.
it does have some t mobile stuff...start up animation etc....
i was thinking of copying an official rom straight from htc to it...
the problem i have is this ...... which one
had the phone for 3 days only and haven't had time to play with it... it's not my first htc phone flashed others before... just need some direction
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i do understand the guy....
i have a desire which i bought via ebay and got it unlocked.
it does have some t mobile stuff...start up animation etc....
i was thinking of copying an official rom straight from htc to it...
the problem i have is this ...... which one
had the phone for 3 days only and haven't had time to play with it... it's not my first htc phone flashed others before... just need some direction
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well i have just downloaded this one:
http://www.shipped-roms.com/shipped....140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.exe
Anyone know what loading this would do to my uk vodafone Desire HD?
well i had an orange hd phone before...
i had to run a root kit before being able to copy any other roms...
so you may have to check that before...
i still need some time before i flash it or maybe wait for gingerbread to come out... so that i do that only once
why don't u unload uninstall any vodafone stuff?
I had my phone from Virgin Mobile. Luckily not too much bloatware on it.
I eneded up rooting it simply as I like using stock Android rather than HTC Sense, which is always a good reason to root.
So now I'm runnign CyanogenMod7 , which is Android 2.3, runnign overclocked to 1.5Ghz.
Fast like you would not believe !
And to be fair, once rooted you';ll probably get updates here faster than waiting for Vodafone to update it OTA !!
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why don't u unload uninstall any vodafone stuff?
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the uninstall option is greyed out. Stuff like Tower Bloxx NY Trail, Texas Hold'em, uno trial etc can not be removed. Also this vodafone 360 stuff is rubbish. Great i am with vodafone, but i will never use this stuff.
O and what if i was a recovering gambling addict vodafone? Or if gambling was something I did not want on my phone for religious reasons. This is the UK, looks like someone did not check with legal before sending out devices.
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the uninstall option is greyed out. Stuff like Tower Bloxx NY Trail, Texas Hold'em, uno trial etc can not be removed. Also this vodafone 360 stuff is rubbish. Great i am with vodafone, but i will never use this stuff.
O and what if i was a recovering gambling addict vodafone? Or if gambling was something I did not want on my phone for religious reasons. This is the UK, looks like someone did not check with legal before sending out devices.
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LOL! Love the gambling part
check this out - http://htcrom.com/where_get_right_htc_rom_your_phone
So glad I got my DesireHD on launch as it's unbranded. My g/f's Galaxy was loaded with Orange branded ****, and I mean ****, games where you click and have to buy, again with no option of uninstall.
mrjonnyrock said:
thx, but i can not access any of those links.
There are a bunch of stupid demo games and other crap installed including vodafone 360, rubbish that i want to get off.
Why put this crap on a device? Its like the laptop OEMs, installing all the crap under the sun to make some extra cash. I am not offered my device for less money, but they get my money and money form advertisers.
WHEN THE BLOODY HELL WILL THESE PEOPLE LEARN. WE DON'T WANT YOUR CRAP SOFTWARE INSTALLED ON DEVICES THAT WE PAY A LOT OF MONEY FOR. why must i have stuff installed on a device that i do not want with no way of getting it off the device. I pay for the device i should have the right to choose what i want on it and not be forced accept having the stuff forced on me.
i have had the phone for a day now and if i don't find a way of getting this crap off the phone without voiding my warranty, it will go back to vodafone.
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Did you actually pay Vodafone for the phone, or was it free/discounted on contract?
If you paid full price for it... why not buy it unbranded e.g. from Carphone Warehouse?
mrjonnyrock said:
hi,
I just got my Desire HD.
andriod ver: 2.2.1
baseband ver: 12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2
kernel: 2.6.32.21-g1e30168
software ver: 1.75.161.2
i want to root the phone and get all this damn vodafone bloatware off the phone.
before i do this i want to get the Vodafone_UK RUU. Does anyone know where i can get the file?
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Hi, i have same problem like you but the only difference is that my phone is brand vodafone spain,just purchased from ebay,and would love to unlock this htc desire hd and use any sim card on it,do you know some good step to unlock it,i will really appreciate the help,i am surfing around but the only web site that came explainin and talking about it is this one XDA-DEVELOPERS :
I know that this are not simple step to unlock a device but,i just hope some one will answer me asap hope to hear some one soon thanks to all.
tomegranate said:
Did you actually pay Vodafone for the phone, or was it free/discounted on contract?
If you paid full price for it... why not buy it unbranded e.g. from Carphone Warehouse?
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well its a new contract so its not free. You get nothing for free.
By the time the contract it up i would have paid for it.
Discounted, don't make me laugh. Vodafone would not offer any device/service if they did not make money. They have a % of profit that they need to make on every contract.
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also, i am not really that unhappy with the vodafone branding or the 360 software. i will just not use it. Its a pain but i can live with that. The thing that is just not on is the installing of demo or trial software that can not be removed.
mrjonnyrock said:
well i have just downloaded this one:
RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.exe
Anyone know what loading this would do to my uk vodafone Desire HD?
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Thats the one I used to get rid of my 3UK bloatware. Its perfect.. fastboot really is fastboot now! No more splash/loading screens.. no more unwanted games and apps.
Don’t work ( RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26 .03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.exe) on mine (vodafone UK). it may be that mine is now running Andriod 2.2.1 but when i try and install it i get the error customer ID.
Am seriously thinking that it needs to be taken back to Vodafone.
The thing that is worrying me is that in say 12 months time Vodafone might not bother to update the device even if google/htc have an update for the phone.

Rooting for a purpose, then unrooting

So, I've been at this Android thing for a very long time, and had unofficially retired from the XDA world when I bought a GS7 because I never thought rooting would even be possible. Well, now that I've rooted the phone and experimented with a custom ROM, I've come up with a question I don't know that I've ever had or read before.
I'm struggling with whether or not to stay in the rooted universe because I had come to take advantage of Samsung Pay quite often, and I didn't realize the battery difference would be what it is.
I want my phone rooted for two primary reasons, 1) to hack the provisioning so that I can use the native hotspot feature without needing a special app like FoxFi, and 2) to be able to remove all the crapware these phones come with.
So.. Theoretically here..... Shouldn't it be possible to root my phone, remove the crap, hack the provisioning, and then unroot the phone, revert back to the stock kernel, get my battery life back, and use Samsung Pay again? I never did load Samsung Pay on this phone since I've rooted it.
I saw psouza's unrooting guide but if I recall it was a destructive process..... I'd like to see if there's a way to root, set things up, then unroot and restore the phone to a state that maintains the hotspot hack and makes Samsung Pay happy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s7/help/magisk-t3462583/post68962510
I had the same question. Apparently if you alter the system the stock boot image/kernal will not boot.
You will get a verity error.
bart77 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s7/help/magisk-t3462583/post68962510
I had the same question. Apparently if you alter the system the stock boot image/kernal will not boot.
You will get a verity error.
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well poo....I wonder....since the S7 is still relatively new to hacking....I wonder if someone can figure out a workaround that would allow for tampering first, and a successful unrooting afterward. Or maybe this is a Android-wide problem...I've never really thought about this particular approach before....I've always just been always rooted, or never rooted.
I also have this hope that someone will figure out how to spoof whatever is necessary in order for Samsung Pay to still work.
I am using stang5.0liter's ROM and the only slight issue is the battery.......phone runs smoothly for me.....if Samsung Pay worked on this ROM I wouldn't even care about my initial question here.
spearoid said:
well poo....I wonder....since the S7 is still relatively new to hacking....I wonder if someone can figure out a workaround that would allow for tampering first, and a successful unrooting afterward. Or maybe this is a Android-wide problem...I've never really thought about this particular approach before....I've always just been always rooted, or never rooted.
I also have this hope that someone will figure out how to spoof whatever is necessary in order for Samsung Pay to still work.
I am using stang5.0liter's ROM and the only slight issue is the battery.......phone runs smoothly for me.....if Samsung Pay worked on this ROM I wouldn't even care about my initial question here.
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It will not work. The original kernel for the device checks system verity. This is a part of locked boot loaders and android M+. If one bit of information is changed the original kernel will not boot. The reason we can root with the engineer kernel is it does not do this. Due to being in a "custom" status and non original kernel Samsung pay will not work nor will it ever work with this root method.
You have ruined my life with this response
So, why is the performance so bad on the engineering kernal?
spearoid said:
You have ruined my life with this response
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Just the messenger lol. But honestly I can live without root. If I desperately needed root I wouldn't have bought a Samsung device as they are not the best for it. If you NEED root next time look more towards Nexus Phones, now Pixel and WAY over priced imo. Or research which phones have good root with an unlockable BL. For that I would stray from VZW branded devices and buy an unlocked version from the manufacturer that is compatible with VZW
bart77 said:
So, why is the performance so bad on the engineering kernal?
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It was used for internal testing for Samsung. This was an early version of the first kernel they had for the S7, I believe and correct me if I am wrong anyone. It was fine tuned and then released but the engineering kernel was left in the dust.
Illogi.xbone said:
Just the messenger lol. But honestly I can live without root. If I desperately needed root I wouldn't have bought a Samsung device as they are not the best for it. If you NEED root next time look more towards Nexus Phones, now Pixel and WAY over priced imo. Or research which phones have good root with an unlockable BL. For that I would stray from VZW branded devices and buy an unlocked version from the manufacturer that is compatible with VZW
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I don't need to have root. I bought this phone fully expecting to never be able to root it again. After several months of non root usage, it was very nice to enjoy some of the luxuries of a rooted phone again. I'm still torn as to which direction to go. I use the hotspot feature daily, and it works much better now than in the unrooted world for me at least.
I just wanted to see if there was any hope for having the best of both worlds.
spearoid said:
I don't need to have root. I bought this phone fully expecting to never be able to root it again. After several months of non root usage, it was very nice to enjoy some of the luxuries of a rooted phone again. I'm still torn as to which direction to go. I use the hotspot feature daily, and it works much better now than in the unrooted world for me at least.
I just wanted to see if there was any hope for having the best of both worlds.
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I was too until the pokemon update lol then I decided no root.

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