It's not the ULTIMATE solution, but it's the only solution i found to watch videos perfectly in my Touch HD.
Video : HD trailer 800x480 @ 25 fps : Ice Age 2
Software : CorePlayer 1.2.5
First benchmark = 87%
First step :
Re-encoding the video in 240x400 on your PC with http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/ or http://www.virtualdub.org/
Why 240x400 ?
- the video is pre-rotated (instead of 400x240) (performance +5%)
- the resolution is exactly the half of the native resolution (480x800) (performance +60%)
Second step :
Customize the options of Coreplayer :
Menu / Tools / Colors = Native
Menu / Tools / Preferences / Video / Video output = Raw FrameBuffer
Menu / Tools / Preferences / Video / Smooth zoom = OFF
Menu / Tools / Preferences / Video / Dither = OFF (uncheck)
Menu / Tools / Preferences / Advanced / Slow video memory = check
Results (the quality of theses videos seem egal)
800x480 : 87%
800x480 (with the options) : 95%
240x400 : 141%
240x400 (with the options) : 232%
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Enjoy
Sources :
http://www.newshq.fr/touchhd/Ice Age 2 - 480x800.avi
http://www.newshq.fr/touchhd/Ice Age 2 - 240x400.avi
Any visible degradation on picture charity and details?
Would be good if you post both clips for all to see for themselves.
Beautiful work. Thanks.
Millenius said:
HD trailer 800x480 @ 25 fps with CorePlayer 1.2.5
Benchmark = 87%
First step :
Re-encoding the video in 240x400 = 141%
Why 240x400 ?
- the video is pre-rotated (instead of 400x240)
- the resolution is exactly the half of the native resolution (480x800)
Second step :
Customize the options of Coreplayer :
Menu / Tools / Colors = Native
Menu / Tools / Preferences / Video / Video output = Raw FrameBuffer
Menu / Tools / Preferences / Video / Smooth zoom = OFF
Menu / Tools / Preferences / Video / Dither = OFF (uncheck)
Menu / Tools / Preferences / Advanced / Slow video memory = check
Result = 232.56 % !
Enjoy
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no, the quality seems the same
because the DPI screen is very high (800x480 for 3''8)
Sorry are you saying we have to re-encode a hi res video ourselves (on a pc) to half the resolution (step 1) or does the player do it automatically?
I upload the trailer "Ice Age 2 HD" on rapidshare (ready in 15min) :
800x480 3Mbits : 26 Mo
240x400 3Mbits : 13 Mo
tboy2000 said:
Sorry are you saying we have to re-encode a hi res video ourselves (on a pc) to half the resolution (step 1) or does the player do it automatically?
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Re-encode on your PC !!
With PocketDivxEncoder for example Very easy to use !
OK, the upload on Rapidshare is done :
http://rapidshare.com/files/163866230/Benchmark_HTC_Touch_HD.zip.html
You have 2 files : the original, and the optimized 240x400
BUT YOU NEED TO change the options on CorePlayer (see the 1st post of this topic) to see the result.
Default options :
800x480 : 87%
240x400 : 141%
With the optimized options :
800x480 : 95%
240x400 : 232% !!!
Good post. I think our moderator should sticky this.
Well I got to that solution a week ago, when I got my Touch HD.
But the Coreplayer options, I didn't knew.
Simpy using pocketdivxencoder is enough for me.
But thanks!
Cheers.
Nice solution...
The only problem many of us expecting the Touch HD to have good video performance without the hassles of re-encoding videos.
You can't really expect the phone to resize every frame of a massive video eg 800 x 480 or whatever on the fly. If you want better results, of course you have to re-encode yourself to a more suitable size. Otherwise it's just wasting CPU usage and you'll definitely get slow downs.
Sorry but this doesnt sould like a solution to me. Its just reencoding a file to a extreme low res, only a fourth of the pixels, and playing it.. Of course it plays ok, but its only 240x400, and besides that, its completely unpractical to reencode every moviefile. So: nothing changed, no solution at all...
Millenius said:
First step :
Re-encoding the video in 240x400 on your PC with http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/ or http://www.virtualdub.org/
Why 240x400 ?
- the video is pre-rotated (instead of 400x240)
- the resolution is exactly the half of the native resolution (480x800)
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What video bitrate and audio bitrate did you use in pocketdivxencoder to resize your video?
In the advanced options did you choose your ppc as portrait or landscape?
Finally, I can only resize at 400x240. How could you resize at 240x400?
Thanks!
oh yes, what a super duper solution, re-encode the video with less quality on a pc and losing time.
HTC should contract you for new developments.
This is not a solution, the only solution is get hardware acceleration and software allowed to use it.
Guys,
If there is no noticeable degradation in picture quality and sharpness (which was my question in my post), why are you having problem with this solution? Why carry along and process all the 7.1 sound system when you only have stereo capability? Why carry along all the resolution of a blueray when you don't need it? Of course it is reasonable to go through some processing and bring it to a form that we need, minus all the unwanted and unnecessary stuff if that provides the same clarity and improves performance.
Is the reduced resolution becoming ****ty? If it is, then all the phones out there with such resolution (includinding the most worshipped iPhone) ought to be thrown in the bin too as a meda device.
Millenius, thanks for all your tips. It is definitely helpful.
Millenius said:
OK, the upload on Rapidshare is done :
http://rapidshare.com/files/163866230/Benchmark_HTC_Touch_HD.zip.html
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Can somebody re-upload the files?
I can't get the file also. I think the link address may be incomplete??
ez2remember said:
Nice solution...
The only problem many of us expecting the Touch HD to have good video performance without the hassles of re-encoding videos.
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I agree, although the proposal is offered as a solution I would say it's a clunky and expensive workround....but thanks for sharing for those who maybe already have the Coreplayer software. [1]
My Archos (heaven forbid I am going to say something positive about it) just does it .... screen is the same resolution. I drop a 700Mb file and it plays.
I do not know the difference in the internals but it is a disappointment because I was hoping to reduce down to a single device .... looks like the Archos has some life left in it yet.
Mal
[1] Why is there no trial for Coreplayer?
kersh said:
oh yes, what a super duper solution, re-encode the video with less quality on a pc and losing time.
HTC should contract you for new developments.
This is not a solution, the only solution is get hardware acceleration and software allowed to use it.
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Yes, HTC should supply the video acceleration drivers...no doubt. However, there aren't many portable devices that can take a high res movie that is meant for a PC and play it perfectly. Another example, would you take a 12 mega-pixel image that you took from your DSLR and just download it to your HD for viewing...of course not, you would re-size it first to save disk space, knowing that the extra resolution is wasted on a screen that size anyway. It is a hassle, but worth the trouble.
I dont know much about video resolutions and such, just want to be able to watch Divx TV series on my HD. And at this the HD did just fine - until I tried the settings recommended in the 1st post. Then I had a noticeable lag, and between every scene it felt like someone turned a page - black frame(s) - or turning a curtain, dont know how to explain otherwise. Got rid of all the changes, except Colour, and cannot check Dither again. Any idea?
CorePlayer 1.2.5, Video Divx 624x352, 23,97 fps, video file is 350 megs
Hello.
I tested "YouTube_Vga_by_swtos.cab" on my HTC TOUCH HD (Blackstone), but does not start.
What could be the problem?
Thank you
P.S. Italian version of Touch HD not have Youtube player.
YouTube_Vga_by_swtos.cab:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=130141&d=1226772145
fotone said:
Hello.
I tested "YouTube_Vga_by_swtos.cab" on my HTC TOUCH HD (Blackstone), but does not start.
What could be the problem?
Thank you
P.S. Italian version of Touch HD not have Youtube player.
YouTube_Vga_by_swtos.cab:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=130141&d=1226772145
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Probably because that YouTube client is VGA... You're touch HD is WVGA.
640x480 for VGA vs 800x480 for WVGA - *buzzer goes off*
Hello, I'm new @ xda-developers and got my touch hd last week.
While playing around with different video-encoding-settings to get optimal results I found the "HTC Touch HD Video Converter" in this forum.
I used it (v. 1.18) to encode a video from a 1080p source file.
I chose "HD input" and maximum resolution "WVGA 800x480".
My "problem" now as follows:
Using CorePlayer 1.30 results in heavy-stuttering video-playback whereas the HTC Album plays it very smooth, even in fast-motion scenes.
I already played around with some settings in the CorePlayer preferences menu but I can't make the video run as smooth as it runs in HTC album.
The "tnyynt SD TuneUP.cab" is already installed by the way.
I want to make CorePlayer work as intended Does anybody have an idea what I could do in order to solve this video-playback-stuttering?
Thank you for possible answers
This is already known. WMP (or HTC album) have some hardware acceleration, whereas CorePlayer doesn't provide this yet. Future releases of CorePlayer are supposed to have the hardware acceleration as well.
Okay, thanks a lot
Reduce buffer size
i've solve this problem via reducing buffer size:
Menu --> Tools -->Preferences --> Select Page -->Buffering
my new settings are:
~ Normal Buffer size 1184 KB
~ Preload at underrun 70.0 %
~ Preload for audio 0 KB
but this aajustment is for an internet radio, let me know if it has helped to solve your problem please!
Is there still no hardware support in CorePlayer ?
Hi, previously I was using WM 6 Tomal 8.9 ROM it is fantastic ROM but because it does not support video call I downgraded to original WM5 V 1.30.162 but with this ROM I an unable to record videos in full screen.It captures photo in full screen but does not record video in full screen mode so is there any way to make it happen? or do I have to flash some other version of WM5?.I serched this forum for any other HTC camera software that I can Install but found none.Can anybody help?
Hi.
using this program u can solve this problem for now.
of course this is nothing especial but it works (maybe other Apps work too)
after installing it , set these options:
video resolution 480*320 / 640*480 /720*480 /800*480
video encoder = mpeg4
video file format = mpeg4
video bitrate = 1 or 2 mbit
video frames = 30
audio source = microphone
audio encoder = aac(may not supported)1
audio samplerate = 44100
adio bitrate = 62900
I don't test other settings but u can try them.
and also at last excuse me for such an English like this.
NOTE: this program is test on sense 3.5 by derfas.
How did you set the resolution? Not working at my 7.2
mikex2 said:
How did you set the resolution? Not working at my 7.2
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as I know CM 7.2 can't record at all, so I think this won't be applicable for its users.
I suggest you to try sense 3.5 , you'll probably be satisfied with this because of its battery , stability & ...
the only eye-cathing problem with it is that GPS doesn't work.
Ok, thanks very much i will try it and reply then
e: only question, if i want to install cm 7.2 then, i must first install windows mobile back? ( i previously had sd-version )
mikex2 said:
Ok, thanks very much i will try it and reply then
e: only question, if i want to install cm 7.2 then, i must first install windows mobile back? ( i previously had sd-version )
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from developers view it is better to do that, and also to wipe and calibrate the battery.
Ok now everything works good ( angry birds too, before they dont work ) Thanks, gps is not problem, i dont need it now. But visually it looks worse than cm7.2