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I am trying to get the best video using CorePlayer, mostly for YouTube now. I will start watching DVD's in the near future as well.
What are people seeing as good settings?
after installing coreplayer set the buffer size to 2400 and the preload underrun to 70 and that should give you perfect playback
Dominican706 said:
after installing coreplayer set the buffer size to 2400 and the preload underrun to 70 and that should give you perfect playback
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Where are these settings? I just bought and installed the latest CorePlayer for Windows Mobile (1.2.5 build 4506 for ARM) and I don't see these settings anywhere under Options or Preferences.
Menu, Tools, Preferenfes - then click Select Page and pick what you want to adjust. There are some other pages that people recommend settings, but I haven't found one that really sticks out yet.
Thanks, Ryan; I never would have found it--"Select Page"--that's a new one on me.
"Preload at underrun" is located on the Buffering page. Interestingly, both the buffer and the preload at underrun came preset to the values that Dominican706 recommended.
i to would like to know if there are any optimal settings for watching .avi on my mogul in TCMP. i looks very nice with stock settings and for the most part plays well but it does tend to skip every now and then. i was watching a file on my SD card if that makes a differnce
Please, anybody knows what Microdrive mode does from the Buffering page in CorePlayer?
it seems that the driver is causing freezes in my X1 while playing and then stopping/pausing and resuming videos using core player
anybody else get the same problem?
any idea how to fix this?
I've not been using the QTV driver in coreplayer.
I've had the best results with the following:
1. Turning off the "TYTN 2 Driver mode" on the Qtv preferences page
2. Selecting "Direct draw" and "high quality" on the Video page.
3. selecting "RGB" as the overlay format on the Direct draw page.
I already hard reset and now it runs at normal speed, still not sure about the freezes problem, need more investigation and time...
but I'm curious as to what is the best config for X1?
Ben, u said u don't use qtv, then what do you use?
anybody else?
direct draw here
i did notice that my benchmark is better when i use Qtv instead of directdraw.
I watch Iron Man (800ish MB DivX) in bed on Sunday using Direct Draw and other than the gun firing scene it seemed to run pretty smoothly.
please, try to use coreplayer 1.2.5 diamond skinned edition.
this will work flawless on my x1. (touch-it hd firmware)
can u upload the cab?
nap007 said:
it seems that the driver is causing freezes in my X1 while playing and then stopping/pausing and resuming videos using core player
anybody else get the same problem?
any idea how to fix this?
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I am facing the same issue too. This is my experience: Actually the X1 did not hang, only the screen hang. You can press the on/off button and you will hear the pop up window to confirm the shutdown. Just "guestimate" where the yes button is and press on the screen. It should shut down.
Ben daniel said:
I've not been using the QTV driver in coreplayer.
I've had the best results with the following:
1. Turning off the "TYTN 2 Driver mode" on the Qtv preferences page
2. Selecting "Direct draw" and "high quality" on the Video page.
3. selecting "RGB" as the overlay format on the Direct draw page.
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Using your settings, the video is playing back in slow motion!
Try mine:
Use QTv, set to medium quality, no zoom.
medium quality makes the picture looks bad.....
so we can conclude that core player isn't truly support X1 for now?
@nap007 same problem here, with qtv output.
DirectDraw @ medium quality works fine for me
a 700mb xvid,resolution somewhere round 640x400 played smoothly and
quality is still nice @medium
For me too qTV is the fastest.
qTv with unchecked Tytn II mode does not render any video.
DirectDraw with blitting is 10% slower.
DirectDraw without blitting does not zoom the picture.
All around it's slower 10-20% then TCPMP and my 2 years old Palm T5 ! Sure, it had only 320x480 resolution, but I really expected more in this area.
Only hope is CorePlayer will come with some better Xperia support soon.
here's my setting in Coreplayer that renders the video smooth
Video
- Video Output: QTv display
- Video Quality: High
- Smooth Zoom: Only for 50%
- Dither - Yes
Buffer
- Normal Buffer Size: 2400KB
- Preload at underrun: 70%
- Preload for audio: 64KB
- Microdrive mode: Yes
- Microdrive buffer size: 16000KB
- Microdrive starts at: 1472KB
Advance
Off: No backlight keepalive for video, Slow video memory, Less rotation tearing, High priority music playback, Override AVI timing based on audio, Use system volume, Capture all buttons, Keep screen on when playing audio
On: Prefer lookup tables over arithmetic, D-pad follow screen orientation, Prefer less buffering over framerate, Benchmark from current pos, Pause playback when making phone call, Unpause playback after call, Disable AVC deblocking filter
QTv
TyTN II driver mode - Yes
I think it's about time for us to clear a few things up concerning video playback on the X1.
The X1 can play most codecs using Coreplayer Mobile.
However, to optimize video's for the X1 and windows media player, a converter such as SUPER can be used.
Please note that optimizing your X1 is advised. See this thread for more information.
Now what I would like to find out is what settings work best for the X1 to playback video with a few different preset configurations.
What we need to know is the optimal:
Resolution
Framerate
Video Codec
Video Bitrate
Audio Codec
Audio Bitrate
Audio Sampling Frequency
Container
And any other/better tools to use.
To be able to better compare results I've uploaded the Crysis Warhead HD Trailer. You can download it here.
Please use this trailer to compare and post your settings in this thread.
This thread will be updated with new information as it arises. The second post contains an example of settings I used and will be updated with user posted settings that work well.
--- Important information ---
* CorePlayer is not hardware accelerated. This means that CorePlayer is more likely to play your video's choppy. The built-in media player, however, does have hardware acceleration. To get the best video performance, at this moment the built-in media player is your best choice.
* The h.264 codec is supported by the built-in media player and currently has the best compression vs quality ratio.
--- Downloads ---
Coreplayer Mobile
SUPER
--- Source file ---
Setting: HD Quality - 63.4MB @ 0hrs, 1min, 32sec.
Resolution: 1280 x 720
Framerate: 30
Video Codec: WMV9
Video Bitrate: 6090 kb/s
Audio Codec: WMA9
Audio Sampling Freq.: 44100
Audio Bitrate:: 96 kb/s
Container: WMV
Download example here: Source file
--- Settings --- Here the optimal settings will be provided as they become available.
Configuration: Low Quality - 4.7MB @ 1min, 31sec. (+- 280MB for 1.5hrs of movie)
Resolution: 400x240
Framerate: 25
Video Codec: h.264
Video Bitrate: 192 kb/s
Audio Codec: AAC
Audio Sampling Freq.: 22050
Audio Bitrate:: 64 kb/s
Container: mp4
Download example here: Low Quality
Configuration: Medium Quality - 5.9MB @ 1min, 31sec. (+- 350MB for 1.5hrs of movie)
Resolution: 400x240
Framerate: 25
Video Codec: h.264
Video Bitrate: 384 kb/s
Audio Codec: AAC
Audio Sampling Freq.: 44100
Audio Bitrate:: 96 kb/s
Container: mp4
Download example here: Medium Quality
Configuration: High Quality - 10.4MB @ 1min, 31sec. (+- 620MB for 1.5hrs of movie)
Resolution: 608x368
Framerate: 30
Video Codec: h.264
Video Bitrate: 768
Audio Codec: AAC
Audio Sampling Freq.: 44100
Audio Bitrate:: 96 kb/s
Container: mp4
Download example here: High Quality
Configuration: Highest Quality - 16.8MB @ 1min, 31sec. (+- 1000MB for 1.5hrs of movie)
Resolution: 800x480
Framerate: 30
Video Codec: h.264
Video Bitrate: 1294 kb/s
Audio Codec: AAC
Audio Sampling Freq.: 44100
Audio Bitrate:: 128 kb/s
Container: mp4
Download example here: Highest Quality
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When posting settings, supply the same information as I do here.
Good you have come up with this.. once we all share I think we can reach to as what best converter settings we can use for X1... After reading lot of material... I use these settings which gives me full screen decent/smooth run movies.. had no problems at all... but don't know if they are the best settings... check it out :
Xvid MPEG-4 Codec, 569 Target bitrate, 23.976 fps, Screen Size 640x384, Sound Mp3 128 to 160 kbit/s. Encoder used : TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress. ( The best converter with total cut/edit features )
Let me know the results.
Nero Recode 3
AVC in MP4, 400x240, ~400kbps
HE-AAC, ~80kbps,
Runs excellent in the Mediapanel and did quite good (but worse) in the Coreplayer 1.2.5, when I still had it installed. Switched to the Panel completely for playing back my mp4 rips.
Uh, theres a template. Well then, again:
Resolution 400x240
Codec AVC/h.264
Framerate 25 or as source if lower
Video Bitrate ~400kbps
Audio Sampling as source
Audio Bitrate HE-AAC, ~80kbps
I have tried so many diff combination but still haven't found one optimal to use with the x1. This thread will be great for me to do more testing. I usually super or aimersoft. Please chime in if you use those above software to encode video.
I'm at work right now so can't be 100% sure, but as I remember (it's discussed in threads in the main SE X1 forum section) for the highest quality you can get on x1, encode the files for Baseline 1.3 h264, 800x450 max resolution, 30fps, and play them on wm media player or the media panel.
Videos will not run well at anything near that resolution on core player or tcpmp, they don't use the hardware acceleration that's available to media player and the media panel, although tcpmp and coreplayer will handle many more codecs.
Thanks for the additions people, I've uploaded a better video file to test with. It's HD by default so you can actually see the difference between high quality encoded and low/medium.
For those who post configurations, please (please!) stick to the template, I will try and reproduce the settings so I can judge them and add them to the topic.
I would like more information on the hardware acceleration topic as well;
1) Why isn't coreplayer hardware accelerated?
2) Can it be changed so it is?
3) Are there any other/better video players out there?
Because the driver specifications are not available and the hardware cant be accessed by third party programmers
CorePlayer team said in their forum they got hold of Qualcomm and are working to provide hardware acceleration for any MSM7xxx chipset having the graphics hardware in one of the next builds of the player
Better regarding what aspect?
Thanks for your reply. I'd like to see what CorePlayer can do if they manage to get the hardware acceleration working.
Better regarding smooth playback and codec support. Perhaps there's a way to add codecs to the Winmo media player?
EDIT: Updated with new configurations, all based on h.264 (for best compression/quality ratio)
EDIT2: Added another setting, tested for quality and uploaded all examples for your viewing pleasure.
EDIT3: Tested the movies on my X1. From low to high the quality is visibly better every time, so that's a good thing. On the highest quality setting proposed above, the graphics were stunning, however, it ran choppy, it looked like my X1 couldn't keep up with that high bitrate & resolution. I'd like more opinions, who else will test them!? (Tested with windows mobile media player).
Who can help me test the highest settings?
Angelusz said:
EDIT3: Tested the movies on my X1. From low to high the quality is visibly better every time, so that's a good thing. On the highest quality setting proposed above, the graphics were stunning, however, it ran choppy, it looked like my X1 couldn't keep up with that high bitrate & resolution. I'd like more opinions, who else will test them!? (Tested with windows mobile media player).
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Look at my post (#31) here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460294&page=4
especially this:
Jabe said:
2.) this one is the important one. Do not change screen resolution. Original file was 624x352 and when I set it to 800x like you suggested the playback was somewhat jerky when people were moving. So I set it to "no cnahge" and gained 2 things:
- output quality was far superior (i don't know about that if you choose smaller resolution, like converting HD to 800x)
- the conversion is much faster. before it took 1h10min, now it takes 45min. in other words, encoding speed went from 0.7x to 1.0x.
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I think we are talking about the same thing. I've noticed that increasing resolution does cause some problems. I use Media Panel for playing my videos.
I do use the Mediapanel as well, it might be imagination but I found it to be the best player regarding playback performance.
Upscaling a smaller source file in image size will worsen the quality massively. Think about how a codec works: upscaling means making the image look "soft" or "washed out". These soft or washed out images are then used by the codec to predict differencies and/or movements between the frames and then this data is used to render the subsequent frames. Since the whole image (being washed out) figuratively looks "all the same" (its just a soup of different unspecific colours) the codec has hardcore problems predicting movements between the single frames. Thus the prediction is bad, based on an already bad image, multiplies the bad effect onto every subsequent frame.
Display Driver Assist - Does it improve video ?
This is an interesting thread, please let me add my experience of converting and watching video on my Xperia.
Firstly this program DVD Catalyst won the top award for converting DVD to almost any format to any resolution, any bitrate.
Here is the URL : http://www.pocketdvd.ca/products/dvd catalyst 3.html
Here is the URL for SmartPhone Awards list for all the best in catagory software for video coversion for Pocket PC 2008.
http://www.smartphonemag.com/cms/awards/2008/winners_ppc_apps#CatDVD_Converters
If you download the trial of DVD Catalyst you can have 15 days of free fully functional DVD conversions, thats enough to convert almost anybodies collection. I do intend to buy this when I get round to it.
I experimineted with different formats and resolutions and here were my conclusions.
Format - Sony Media Panel seems to like the 3gp format best ( subjective )
Resolution - I use the maximum 800 X 480
Bitrate - 750 kbps though 500 is still very good.
Audio 128 kbps Stereo
All these options can easily be changed in the converter, you can set your PC Processor prioirty to high ( recommended) or highest if you not doing anything else and a complete 2 hour DVD, with high prioirty for processor will be converted and ready for copying to your X1 in about 35 - 40 mins.
Also I found my Xperia settings had an impact on video playback quality, none more so than Glyph cache, which I now have at 128kb.
I am currently experimenting with the " Display driver preloader " you can find on the thread by ell82...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462346
In it he uses this file, libgles_cl.dll, copied into the windows directory, to add hardware acceleration to some 3D games. This as close as we have come so far in adding hardware acceleration across the board to all programs on the X1, obviously this needs some testing and benchmarking, something this thread is very good at.
This file does not replace any windows files, you can add it to WINDOWS folder and remove it at will, it doesn't hurt, over right or harm anything.
Im using it on and off, id like to see some hard data on it, it may not be the magic bullet we have all been waiting for, but it could be a move in the right direction.
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Format - Sony Media Panel seems to like the 3gp format best ( subjective )
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3GP is not a format, its only a container. The content, video wise, is either SP, ASP or AVC video (mostly, accepts a wide range of codecs though) and audio is AMR or AAC. In fact you don't follow the standard at all, your files are NOT 3GP COMPILANT. Since 3GP is just a simplified version of the MP4 container anyway, of which the latter is more versatile regarding possible content and resolution restrictions, I would definitely abandon 3GP and go for MP4. Of course with AVC video and a flavor of AAC audio.
Maybe noob question (I haven't got an sdhcmicro card so cannot test myself):
On my hx2790 tcpmp (ver 0.72, last version) always worked a treat on default 700-1500mb divx and xvids. You loaded lots of movies on a 8gb card and opened them with tcpmp. Some movies required AC3 sound and there was a plug in for that too. The movies played back 100% flawlessly.
Can we not just do this in the X1?
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Can we not just do this in the X1?
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no, not yet.
700mb dvd rips run fine in coreplayer, but for fast scenes it lags like hell
Here's what I do:
Open PocketDivXEncoder
Select the 'HD TV' option
Resize to 400xABC (maintain aspect ratio)
Video quality = 70
Audio = max
Coreplayer runs it flawlessly and looks great, even fast scenes.
Watched the first season of both Burn Notice and Merlin with no issues in action packed scenes
totally agreed with coreplayer ! really better than movie player in the XMB Panel !!!! you can find my thread here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3093597#post3093597
Don't know why it is so slow with the XMB Panel & so better in core player !
Core Player : reverserd enginered the chipset.... really difficult thing & to be really/fully optimized but it works better than the std XMB movie player !!!! (written by who ? sony developers or htc ? or together ?, they should buy corecodec ! )
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700mb dvd rips run fine in coreplayer, but for fast scenes it lags like hell
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But tcpmp 0.72 doesn't? Tcpmp was the ultimate micro footprint everything player for mobile devices.
I see several other threads on this subject, but all go into conversations on the use of third-party conversion software. I use a Sony Vegas Pro 8 video editing software which can convert to any format/settings (and incidentally costs more than the HTC device itself).
What I am looking for is the best video settings as for:
1: type (wmv, mp4, etc)
2: codec
3: bitrate
4: size
5: framerate
I’m trying differing settings at random, but as of yet haven’t resulting in a better video than was on my 2003 Palm T3. If I find a good fit I’ll post it, but would be interested to see if anyone has found the best settings mix. HTC tech support are no help and have little to no understanding of video formats.
PilotRMK said:
I see several other threads on this subject, but all go into conversations on the use of third-party conversion software. I use a Sony Vegas Pro 8 video editing software which can convert to any format/settings (and incidentally costs more than the HTC device itself).
What I am looking for is the best video settings as for:
1: type (wmv, mp4, etc)
2: codec
3: bitrate
4: size
5: framerate
I’m trying differing settings at random, but as of yet haven’t resulting in a better video than was on my 2003 Palm T3. If I find a good fit I’ll post it, but would be interested to see if anyone has found the best settings mix. HTC tech support are no help and have little to no understanding of video formats.
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1: mp4
2: video: h.264 audio: aac
3: 800 - 1500 Kbps audio: 128Kbps
4: 800x480 16:9 cropped
5: Original (25 -30)
Play the resulting file in Album htc player or Windows Media Player.
It's what I use and it works great!
Willy1973 that works much better, thanks. Still some intermittent stuttering, but I suppose thats down to so much overhead in WM6.
1500 is too much. Set 1000 and it wont lag ever.
^ I've used "super" for a long time, once you get the settings right, it's very good. However, my Touch HD wont play the videos i converted to my atom life.
Also even with the video bitrate set to 600 there is still some stuttering. (when using the default "video player". As of yet I've not been able to make WMP find any of the mp4 videos on my memory card, and the TF3D album only finds videos stored on the actual device itself.
The Blackstone video encoding GUI ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112 ) is neat and handy - especially if you just want to dump a few videos in and leave it running overnight - i've found it to be a bit slower than super, but there isnt much in it tbh.
I've not installed coreplayer yet -going to give that a try now, and see if that helps with the playback issues I'm having. But even so it would be nice to have the option of using WMP - if ayone has any ideas as to why it isnt finding the videos on my memory card? I've tried putting the vids in the main directory,and also tried creating a folder on the memory card called "video". Neither has worked yet.
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^ I've used "super" for a long time, once you get the settings right, it's very good. However, my Touch HD wont play the videos i converted to my atom life.
Also even with the video bitrate set to 600 there is still some stuttering. (when using the default "video player". As of yet I've not been able to make WMP find any of the mp4 videos on my memory card, and the TF3D album only finds videos stored on the actual device itself.
The Blackstone video encoding GUI ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112 ) is neat and handy - especially if you just want to dump a few videos in and leave it running overnight - i've found it to be a bit slower than super, but there isnt much in it tbh.
I've not installed coreplayer yet -going to give that a try now, and see if that helps with the playback issues I'm having. But even so it would be nice to have the option of using WMP - if ayone has any ideas as to why it isnt finding the videos on my memory card? I've tried putting the vids in the main directory,and also tried creating a folder on the memory card called "video". Neither has worked yet.
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WMP has a "open file.." menu item, for single files, in the library.
Album should find your memcard, press the left dialog-button, while in album..
Check out this post:
http://www.wmguides.com/guides?sobi2Task=sobi2Details&catid=0&sobi2Id=20
Thanks!
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WMP has a "open file.." menu item, for single files, in the library.
Album should find your memcard, press the left dialog-button, while in album..
Check out this post:
http://www.wmguides.com/guides?sobi2Task=sobi2Details&catid=0&sobi2Id=20
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Thanks for that, I'm now able to locate the memory card and videos located on it via the "album"... i was only seeing the previews in the photo and video tab. Can now locate all!
With WMP I can locate single files... but cant understand why they're not showing up in the library. Even after being played via WMP. (I should add, it has no problem locating music files, just video)
Both these solutions seems to have eliminated the stuttering I was getting before.
The reason i like WMP so much is that when one video is finnished it moves to the next rather than stopping completely.
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...1: type (wmv, mp4, etc)
2: codec
3: bitrate
4: size
5: framerate...
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I'm experimenting with Catalyst DVD Converter which I found in another thread and am unable to completely eliminate that pesky frame dropping every few seconds on my HD. Here's what's working best so far
1: .avi
2: DIVX5
3: 500
4: 400x240 (autocropped by catalyst dvd to fill the screen, which I really like!)
5: 30
Note: I use CorePlayer to play the videos. One thing I've noticed is that although the mpeg4 and h.264 files do play ok on win media player mobile, mpeg4 files are much larger that divx, and h.264 (also .mp4 extension) take 2-3 time longer to encode to the device. I've not had good luck playing 800x480 files as they shudder so badly because there's 4 times as much info for the HD to process, and the 400x240 files play really nicely. I use Dutty's 1.5 rom with tnyynt's sd card tuneup cab, which I think is already incorporated into the rom???
Hope this helps... --Jesse
I've now disovered that WMP is finding my MP4 files, but for some reason it's adding them to my music library rather than to my video library?
Is there an option somewhere to tell it that .mp4 extentions are video?
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I'm experimenting with Catalyst DVD Converter which I found in another thread and am unable to completely eliminate that pesky frame dropping every few seconds on my HD. Here's what's working best so far
1: .avi
2: DIVX5
3: 500
4: 400x240 (autocropped by catalyst dvd to fill the screen, which I really like!)
5: 30
Note: I use CorePlayer to play the videos. One thing I've noticed is that although the mpeg4 and h.264 files do play ok on win media player mobile, mpeg4 files are much larger that divx, and h.264 (also .mp4 extension) take 2-3 time longer to encode to the device. I've not had good luck playing 800x480 files as they shudder so badly because there's 4 times as much info for the HD to process, and the 400x240 files play really nicely. I use Dutty's 1.5 rom with tnyynt's sd card tuneup cab, which I think is already incorporated into the rom???
Hope this helps... --Jesse
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1/4 resolution and 500bitrate must be ugly
go where to set the video setting??? tks
SomethingWicked said:
I'm experimenting with Catalyst DVD Converter which I found in another thread and am unable to completely eliminate that pesky frame dropping every few seconds on my HD. Here's what's working best so far
1: .avi
2: DIVX5
3: 500
4: 400x240 (autocropped by catalyst dvd to fill the screen, which I really like!)
5: 30
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With DVD Catalyst 3 (which I presume is the same) I use the default settings
1: .mp4
2: h264_ipod_hq
3: 600
4: 800 x 480
5: 30
I play them back with the Album player, (if you just use your file explorer to find the file and click on it, it will play in Album player by default) and get totally stutter free video. I was particularly impressed by the action seens in Tropic Thunder and Star Wars, where I was expecting to see frames dropped. But there weren't any!!
I have converted at least 10 movies, some from DVD, and some from .avi's. It auto scans from either start up or insertion in your player then finds the correct file from all the .vobs etc. With .avi's, you can just drag and drop.
When using the autoscan for DVD's, it's worth checking preview within Catalyst to make sure it has picked the correct language version, or indeed if it needs subtitiles for a foriegn movie.
I have tried about 5 different programs now for conversion and have found this to be far and away the best. I have now put my money where my mouth is and purchased it. (For those that haven't tried, it is available on a 7 day trial)
Top notch Video on the HD that is well worth comparing with your mates' IPod at last.
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1/4 resolution and 500bitrate must be ugly
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actually, if you'd read my message, you'd see where i said they play fine. in fact, theres a theead floating around discussing this. it's where i got the idea
Cap Loz said:
With DVD Catalyst 3 (which I presume is the same) I use the default settings
1: .mp4
2: h264_ipod_hq
3: 600
4: 800 x 480
5: 30
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sweet. thanks for the info. i'll convert a dvd right now
PilotRMK said:
I see several other threads on this subject, but all go into conversations on the use of third-party conversion software. I use a Sony Vegas Pro 8 video editing software which can convert to any format/settings (and incidentally costs more than the HTC device itself).
What I am looking for is the best video settings as for:
1: type (wmv, mp4, etc)
2: codec
3: bitrate
4: size
5: framerate
I’m trying differing settings at random, but as of yet haven’t resulting in a better video than was on my 2003 Palm T3. If I find a good fit I’ll post it, but would be interested to see if anyone has found the best settings mix. HTC tech support are no help and have little to no understanding of video formats.
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How do i convert the video using Sony Vegas? Ive tried "render to new track" but i cant choose the recomended video/audio settings there.
Noodled24 said:
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I've not installed coreplayer yet ...
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note that the only 2 players at the moment capable of playing video with hardware acceleration are tf3d music player and windows media player.
This thread is for readers to post their opinion about the setting on coreplayer, whatever setting that they deemed produced the best performance. Please state your device.
Htc Touch Hd
Select Page ---
BUFFERING:
Normal buffer size = 992 KB
Preload at underrun = 70.0 %
Preload for audio = 0 KB
Microdrive mode = checked
Microdriver buffer size = 16000 KB
Microdriver starts at 1472 KB
VIDEO:
Video output = QTv Display
Video quality = High
Smooth Zoom = On
Dither = Uncheck
ADVANCE:
Slow video memory = Check
Feel free to give your opinion, especially on the ADVANCE PAGE Setting
jyod24 said:
Microdrive mode = checked
Slow video memory = Check
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Nothing of this value change speed of video
I experience a constant lag (every 5 minutes) when listening to MP3, do you think change the settings of buffering can help?
Those settigns worked perfectly for my Diamond 2! First time a full .avi worked smoothly! thanks!
stm2008 said:
I experience a constant lag (every 5 minutes) when listening to MP3, do you think change the settings of buffering can help?
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I've had this when the built in equaliser is enabled. I solved it by not using the built in equaliser but instead using Audio Booster.
I have no improvements with those settings :S Its the same but it isn't bad.
But if i see the benchmark the video is much smoother than playing it.
Edit: maybe a bit faster after opening a new video
jyod24 said:
This thread is for readers to post their opinion about the setting on coreplayer, whatever setting that they deemed produced the best performance. Please state your device.
Htc Touch Hd
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BUFFERING:
Normal buffer size = 992 KB
Preload at underrun = 70.0 %
Preload for audio = 0 KB
Microdrive mode = checked
Microdriver buffer size = 16000 KB
Microdriver starts at 1472 KB
VIDEO:
Video output = QTv Display
Video quality = High
Smooth Zoom = On
Dither = Uncheck
ADVANCE:
Slow video memory = Check
Feel free to give your opinion, especially on the ADVANCE PAGE Setting
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Do you know the REG setting for this so that i dont have to set this over and over again when I flash a new rom?
No REG, settings is located in the config.xml in the Application Data folder...
//Nik
no difference
Hi, I see no difference or at least no discernable one, however I am using stock latest rom, i reencode all video and use wmp as hardware encoding is enabled through wmp api.The way you can play a decent quality with a decent bit rate 500 and above whereas coreplayer will struggle to play anything smoothly above 150.
An example. download any recent 350 lost episode and load and play it in coreplayer, this will be around 620x352 at a bitrate of 60-120 depending on the download. It will play and not too badly but will skip and freeze now and again. Reenode it using Mp4ForHD v2.6 using a higher bit rate and 800x640 res (phone standard res) and it will play perfectly in WMP even though you are using a higher res and bitrate as the hardware encoding is ised. There is no real need for coreplayer as long as you can be bothered re-enocding, if you cannot then you will have to put up skipping video.
coreplayer is greate for music and low res video as it has a lot of codec support however, A good purchase with this in mind.
WOW!!! It works on my Raphael..
jyod24 said:
This thread is for readers to post their opinion about the setting on coreplayer, whatever setting that they deemed produced the best performance. Please state your device.
Htc Touch Hd
Select Page ---
BUFFERING:
Normal buffer size = 992 KB
Preload at underrun = 70.0 %
Preload for audio = 0 KB
Microdrive mode = checked
Microdriver buffer size = 16000 KB
Microdriver starts at 1472 KB
VIDEO:
Video output = QTv Display
Video quality = High
Smooth Zoom = On
Dither = Uncheck
ADVANCE:
Slow video memory = Check
Feel free to give your opinion, especially on the ADVANCE PAGE Setting
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WOW!!!
It works on my Raphael, no more lag on playing over-resolution(bigger than VGA) video..
PDA : HTC Raphael 100 GSM (HTC Touch Pro T7272)
ROM : Official from HTC v1.90
CorePlayer : v1.3.6 build 7427
Different setting : Normal buffer size is 1024 instead of 992
D3D ATi driver installed
Thank You Very Much
For touch HD, just tick "Disable AVC Deblocking" at advanced tab, "soft drop tolerance" to 0.3 sec, and let other settings defaults. Enjoy your hardware-like video player.
P.S: Other settings must be default. I tried with the settings at the first post, just got worse.
512kb of video buffer is pretty enough, and I couldnt understand why no audio buffer and higher video buffer, since I have got even better results wih 256kb video buffer and 64 audio buffer.
Regards.
barisahmet said:
For touch HD, just tick "Disable AVC Deblocking" at advanced tab, "soft drop tolerance" to 0.3 ms, and let other settings defaults. Enjoy your hardware-like video player.
P.S: Other settings must be default. I tried with the settings at the first post, just got worse.
512kb of video buffer is pretty enough, and I couldnt understand why no audio buffer and higher video buffer, since I have got even better results wih 256kb video buffer and 64 audio buffer.
Regards.
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Thank You so much for this. This setting is perfect! I played with coreplayer settings so many times but this one is by far the best!
Ok I have just found out that if I set the soft drop tolerance to 0.600 I get smoother playback than 0.300
barisahmet said:
For touch HD, just tick "Disable AVC Deblocking" at advanced tab, "soft drop tolerance" to 0.3 ms, and let other settings defaults. Enjoy your hardware-like video player.
P.S: Other settings must be default. I tried with the settings at the first post, just got worse.
512kb of video buffer is pretty enough, and I couldnt understand why no audio buffer and higher video buffer, since I have got even better results wih 256kb video buffer and 64 audio buffer.
Regards.
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that was absolutely fabulous. worked perfectly on my HD. thanks barisahmet.
0.3 sec ? or 0.3 ms ?
because value in that field is in sec
bogdatov said:
0.3 sec ? or 0.3 ms ?
because value in that field is in sec
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Sorry just set it 0.3 (sec)
default settings
Hi, can someone post the default buffer settings, I have mucked about so much with them I have forgotten what they are. Note however that the soft drop change seems to be produce the best overall results in that you get the longest amout of smooth play in between frame drops and minor freezes. This is going to be different though depending on what we are playing. I wonder when discussing issues like this we should all agree on a movie or TV episode we can all download and then we are all reading from the same book. It should also be noted we are all probably using different roms which also adds another layer of complexity to it. I am currently using GRIDEVO 1.7B based on 28011 os, those that claim to have smooth playback, what rom are you on and what are you watching, ie whats the bit rate, size of file, codec used and image size.
stoolzo said:
Hi, can someone post the default buffer settings, I have mucked about so much with them I have forgotten what they are. Note however that the soft drop change seems to be produce the best overall results in that you get the longest amout of smooth play in between frame drops and minor freezes. This is going to be different though depending on what we are playing. I wonder when discussing issues like this we should all agree on a movie or TV episode we can all download and then we are all reading from the same book. It should also be noted we are all probably using different roms which also adds another layer of complexity to it. I am currently using GRIDEVO 1.7B based on 28011 os, those that claim to have smooth playback, what rom are you on and what are you watching, ie whats the bit rate, size of file, codec used and image size.
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ok i have stock 1.56 rom wwe. video size 640 x 384
frame rate 23.976
mpeg4 aac audio
codec coreAAC
audio format 24000Hz 2 Ch
coreplayer settings are all default except for advanced settings disable AVC deblocking filter ticked and soft drop tolerance set to 0.600 sec
coreplayer plays the entire movie smoothly without any dropped frames
brusko1972 said:
ok i have stock 1.56 rom wwe. video size 640 x 384
frame rate 23.976
mpeg4 aac audio
codec coreAAC
audio format 24000Hz 2 Ch
coreplayer settings are all default except for advanced settings disable AVC deblocking filter ticked and soft drop tolerance set to 0.600 sec
coreplayer plays the entire movie smoothly without any dropped frames
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what is your clip, is it a torrent i can download?
stoolzo said:
what is your clip, is it a torrent i can download?
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Its the animated movie 9. I downloaded it from another site, due to forum rules I cannot post it here.
Am I allowed to post megaupload links of movie clips on here?
feck it
feck it, i'm going to get a HD2, these problems will go away then, my contract is up soon.