I see several other threads on this subject, but all go into conversations on the use of third-party conversion software. I use a Sony Vegas Pro 8 video editing software which can convert to any format/settings (and incidentally costs more than the HTC device itself).
What I am looking for is the best video settings as for:
1: type (wmv, mp4, etc)
2: codec
3: bitrate
4: size
5: framerate
I’m trying differing settings at random, but as of yet haven’t resulting in a better video than was on my 2003 Palm T3. If I find a good fit I’ll post it, but would be interested to see if anyone has found the best settings mix. HTC tech support are no help and have little to no understanding of video formats.
PilotRMK said:
I see several other threads on this subject, but all go into conversations on the use of third-party conversion software. I use a Sony Vegas Pro 8 video editing software which can convert to any format/settings (and incidentally costs more than the HTC device itself).
What I am looking for is the best video settings as for:
1: type (wmv, mp4, etc)
2: codec
3: bitrate
4: size
5: framerate
I’m trying differing settings at random, but as of yet haven’t resulting in a better video than was on my 2003 Palm T3. If I find a good fit I’ll post it, but would be interested to see if anyone has found the best settings mix. HTC tech support are no help and have little to no understanding of video formats.
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1: mp4
2: video: h.264 audio: aac
3: 800 - 1500 Kbps audio: 128Kbps
4: 800x480 16:9 cropped
5: Original (25 -30)
Play the resulting file in Album htc player or Windows Media Player.
It's what I use and it works great!
Willy1973 that works much better, thanks. Still some intermittent stuttering, but I suppose thats down to so much overhead in WM6.
1500 is too much. Set 1000 and it wont lag ever.
^ I've used "super" for a long time, once you get the settings right, it's very good. However, my Touch HD wont play the videos i converted to my atom life.
Also even with the video bitrate set to 600 there is still some stuttering. (when using the default "video player". As of yet I've not been able to make WMP find any of the mp4 videos on my memory card, and the TF3D album only finds videos stored on the actual device itself.
The Blackstone video encoding GUI ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112 ) is neat and handy - especially if you just want to dump a few videos in and leave it running overnight - i've found it to be a bit slower than super, but there isnt much in it tbh.
I've not installed coreplayer yet -going to give that a try now, and see if that helps with the playback issues I'm having. But even so it would be nice to have the option of using WMP - if ayone has any ideas as to why it isnt finding the videos on my memory card? I've tried putting the vids in the main directory,and also tried creating a folder on the memory card called "video". Neither has worked yet.
Noodled24 said:
^ I've used "super" for a long time, once you get the settings right, it's very good. However, my Touch HD wont play the videos i converted to my atom life.
Also even with the video bitrate set to 600 there is still some stuttering. (when using the default "video player". As of yet I've not been able to make WMP find any of the mp4 videos on my memory card, and the TF3D album only finds videos stored on the actual device itself.
The Blackstone video encoding GUI ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112 ) is neat and handy - especially if you just want to dump a few videos in and leave it running overnight - i've found it to be a bit slower than super, but there isnt much in it tbh.
I've not installed coreplayer yet -going to give that a try now, and see if that helps with the playback issues I'm having. But even so it would be nice to have the option of using WMP - if ayone has any ideas as to why it isnt finding the videos on my memory card? I've tried putting the vids in the main directory,and also tried creating a folder on the memory card called "video". Neither has worked yet.
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WMP has a "open file.." menu item, for single files, in the library.
Album should find your memcard, press the left dialog-button, while in album..
Check out this post:
http://www.wmguides.com/guides?sobi2Task=sobi2Details&catid=0&sobi2Id=20
Thanks!
willy1973 said:
WMP has a "open file.." menu item, for single files, in the library.
Album should find your memcard, press the left dialog-button, while in album..
Check out this post:
http://www.wmguides.com/guides?sobi2Task=sobi2Details&catid=0&sobi2Id=20
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Thanks for that, I'm now able to locate the memory card and videos located on it via the "album"... i was only seeing the previews in the photo and video tab. Can now locate all!
With WMP I can locate single files... but cant understand why they're not showing up in the library. Even after being played via WMP. (I should add, it has no problem locating music files, just video)
Both these solutions seems to have eliminated the stuttering I was getting before.
The reason i like WMP so much is that when one video is finnished it moves to the next rather than stopping completely.
PilotRMK said:
...1: type (wmv, mp4, etc)
2: codec
3: bitrate
4: size
5: framerate...
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I'm experimenting with Catalyst DVD Converter which I found in another thread and am unable to completely eliminate that pesky frame dropping every few seconds on my HD. Here's what's working best so far
1: .avi
2: DIVX5
3: 500
4: 400x240 (autocropped by catalyst dvd to fill the screen, which I really like!)
5: 30
Note: I use CorePlayer to play the videos. One thing I've noticed is that although the mpeg4 and h.264 files do play ok on win media player mobile, mpeg4 files are much larger that divx, and h.264 (also .mp4 extension) take 2-3 time longer to encode to the device. I've not had good luck playing 800x480 files as they shudder so badly because there's 4 times as much info for the HD to process, and the 400x240 files play really nicely. I use Dutty's 1.5 rom with tnyynt's sd card tuneup cab, which I think is already incorporated into the rom???
Hope this helps... --Jesse
I've now disovered that WMP is finding my MP4 files, but for some reason it's adding them to my music library rather than to my video library?
Is there an option somewhere to tell it that .mp4 extentions are video?
SomethingWicked said:
I'm experimenting with Catalyst DVD Converter which I found in another thread and am unable to completely eliminate that pesky frame dropping every few seconds on my HD. Here's what's working best so far
1: .avi
2: DIVX5
3: 500
4: 400x240 (autocropped by catalyst dvd to fill the screen, which I really like!)
5: 30
Note: I use CorePlayer to play the videos. One thing I've noticed is that although the mpeg4 and h.264 files do play ok on win media player mobile, mpeg4 files are much larger that divx, and h.264 (also .mp4 extension) take 2-3 time longer to encode to the device. I've not had good luck playing 800x480 files as they shudder so badly because there's 4 times as much info for the HD to process, and the 400x240 files play really nicely. I use Dutty's 1.5 rom with tnyynt's sd card tuneup cab, which I think is already incorporated into the rom???
Hope this helps... --Jesse
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1/4 resolution and 500bitrate must be ugly
go where to set the video setting??? tks
SomethingWicked said:
I'm experimenting with Catalyst DVD Converter which I found in another thread and am unable to completely eliminate that pesky frame dropping every few seconds on my HD. Here's what's working best so far
1: .avi
2: DIVX5
3: 500
4: 400x240 (autocropped by catalyst dvd to fill the screen, which I really like!)
5: 30
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With DVD Catalyst 3 (which I presume is the same) I use the default settings
1: .mp4
2: h264_ipod_hq
3: 600
4: 800 x 480
5: 30
I play them back with the Album player, (if you just use your file explorer to find the file and click on it, it will play in Album player by default) and get totally stutter free video. I was particularly impressed by the action seens in Tropic Thunder and Star Wars, where I was expecting to see frames dropped. But there weren't any!!
I have converted at least 10 movies, some from DVD, and some from .avi's. It auto scans from either start up or insertion in your player then finds the correct file from all the .vobs etc. With .avi's, you can just drag and drop.
When using the autoscan for DVD's, it's worth checking preview within Catalyst to make sure it has picked the correct language version, or indeed if it needs subtitiles for a foriegn movie.
I have tried about 5 different programs now for conversion and have found this to be far and away the best. I have now put my money where my mouth is and purchased it. (For those that haven't tried, it is available on a 7 day trial)
Top notch Video on the HD that is well worth comparing with your mates' IPod at last.
Wolfenzi said:
1/4 resolution and 500bitrate must be ugly
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actually, if you'd read my message, you'd see where i said they play fine. in fact, theres a theead floating around discussing this. it's where i got the idea
Cap Loz said:
With DVD Catalyst 3 (which I presume is the same) I use the default settings
1: .mp4
2: h264_ipod_hq
3: 600
4: 800 x 480
5: 30
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sweet. thanks for the info. i'll convert a dvd right now
PilotRMK said:
I see several other threads on this subject, but all go into conversations on the use of third-party conversion software. I use a Sony Vegas Pro 8 video editing software which can convert to any format/settings (and incidentally costs more than the HTC device itself).
What I am looking for is the best video settings as for:
1: type (wmv, mp4, etc)
2: codec
3: bitrate
4: size
5: framerate
I’m trying differing settings at random, but as of yet haven’t resulting in a better video than was on my 2003 Palm T3. If I find a good fit I’ll post it, but would be interested to see if anyone has found the best settings mix. HTC tech support are no help and have little to no understanding of video formats.
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How do i convert the video using Sony Vegas? Ive tried "render to new track" but i cant choose the recomended video/audio settings there.
Noodled24 said:
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I've not installed coreplayer yet ...
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note that the only 2 players at the moment capable of playing video with hardware acceleration are tf3d music player and windows media player.
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Heya folks, i am wondering if it is possible on TCPMP to view a hi res video smoothly, i first got the H2.64 format invalid error but shortly after fixed that with the TCPMP ffmpeg addon but now the video i want to watch doesnt run smoothly,
anyone have any ideas how to set it up and if so if they are willing to provide the presets
Cheers everyone
exemike
Sorry title error, i meant to say H.264 =)
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MAKE AN OVERCLOCK! TO 260MHZ With Batterystatus or Omapclockplus
i dont think that will work, i tried a h.264 video on my exe aswell and it was just as slow.
maybe i need to convert the video
exemike said:
maybe i need to convert the video
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That's exactly what you should do.
I use a nice freeware conversion tool for WinXP called SUPER, which converts videos to a specific compression of AVI that's optimized for Pocket PC. Just select "AVI (for Pocket PC)" as the output container, and bob's your uncle. Works great: is formatted to fit the screen correctly, and goes into full screen mode flawlessly. You can even strip the audio tracks from strictly visual media (your p*rn, for example...)
Now, sure, you're going to lose some resolution, but you had to know that was going to happen anyways viewing it on a 320x240px screen, right?
Download SUPER
YES
Myrddin Wyllt said:
That's exactly what you should do.
I use a nice freeware conversion tool for WinXP called SUPER, which converts videos to a specific compression of AVI that's optimized for Pocket PC. Just select "AVI (for Pocket PC)" as the output container, and bob's your uncle. Works great: is formatted to fit the screen correctly, and goes into full screen mode flawlessly. You can even strip the audio tracks from strictly visual media (your p*rn, for example...)
Now, sure, you're going to lose some resolution, but you had to know that was going to happen anyways viewing it on a 320x240px screen, right?
Download SUPER
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Yep the super converter is SUUUUPER!!!! i use it too... and can recomend to you the AVI format our devices can view smothly without overclock a video at lest 230 mbps.
thank you very much guys, I really am enjoying this wizard very much and having it play videos just makes it so much better
now I just have to read the big book on how to upgrade to wm6
thanks again guys,
exemike
Youre welcome men
Be sure to read evrything!!!! and ask somuch more ok?
Its our pleassure to give you the needed info about what you will do.
hehe thanks q will bear that in mind and be sure that I will have lots of questions, after all like I said for a device growing in age it really is brilliant.
The Guide
Well people you have all read the threads so i thought i would translate everything to one simple guide.
First of all, this should hopefully work for most Htc's out there (from what i've read and understand anyway)
Second First of all
You should download the program (Freeware) TCPMP, which can be downloaded at the provided link.
http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/
Personally i downloaded the 0.72RC1 but any of the versions should work farely well.
Secondly you should take the time to download some of the additional plugins for the player, commonly for the program we will be using, the ffmpeg plugin i think is suggested but also the avc and aac video and audio codecs from another site i have provided.
Aditional Plugins
http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/
This is the AVC and AAC codecs, commonly used for H.264 videos, although the wizard struggles with really high quality videos sometimes may be worth overclocking to get the performance you want
http://www.box.net/public/gk97uv7x1o
Addons worth having for sure though
Next you will need to download a program, yes another magnificent piece of freeware known as Super
http://www.erightsoft.info/GetFile.php?SUPERsetup.exe
When the installation is complete, run it, install it, and open it up, from there
When you run the program for the first time, one main menu will setup, the base of the program, now im sure on first sight its like lots of new buttons to press, well its not really that, all you need to do is set where you see (1) and the formats for the output container, just selec avi for Pocket pc, immediately, pocket pc res and settings are loaded.
The settings i am using for my MDA Vario (HTC Wizard) are 320:240 video scale, 4:3 aspect, 25fps, a bitrate of 128 and hi quality + 48k audio for the video options,
for audio i am using a frequency of 22050, 2 channel, 48kbps bitrate and default dvd language select.
further towards the bottom of super you will see what looks to be an input box, anywhere within the white area right click and select add media, add your video (any video you like) and hit ok, the file should input itself, and there should be a checkbox under the active colum, tick it and then further down the program hit encode, wallah, your video should encode perfectly for your wizard, heck you can try other presets to differ your performance.
Open the vid in TCPMP and it should happily play.
For youtube videos etc, there are altho online + downloadable programs to convert to different programs for youtube directly.
http://www.vixy.net/
This is the program with the installable converter, it is freeware but expires every so many months, but its always put back up for download again, dont know why they do that really but it is a good program.
Another program which is reliable online and has lots of options is
http://mediaconverter.org/
Hope this guide helps newcommers someone.
Thanks to Q and Myrd for the information =)
Sweet
I use Lathe 1.5, been using it for almost 2yrs
Works great
exemike said:
The settings i am using for my MDA Vario (HTC Wizard) are 320:240 video scale, 4:3 aspect, 25fps, a bitrate of 128 and hi quality + 48k audio for the video options,
for audio i am using a frequency of 22050, 2 channel, 48kbps bitrate and default dvd language select.
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One more thing would help me pretty much. Could you add which video (h.264 / h.263 / h.262 / xvid / mpeg4 / msmpeg4 / ...) and audio (mp3 / aac / wma / ...) codecs you're using?
The main goal is to be able to use the hardware accelleration inside the X1. Or, only media player are able to!
Nor TCPMP or COREPLAYER use hardware.
But it was a pain in my ass to find a way to make a script able to convert a full directory fill with videos, with subtitles, and not to manage what is convert. And Free!
The way of thinking is:
I download a lot of free videos inside a unique directory, i have make this one the repository of my download.
I launch my script every night before sleeping
And I don't want to manage what is converted or not and i don't want to launch a application, i want something full auto...
So i make a full automation script.
I work under vista, so i'm not sure that's working under other windows.
it convert:
.avi
.mkv (with subtitles inside)
.flv
.mp4
.mpg
it takes subtitles:
.ass
.srt
.ssa
.mkv (it search inside itself)
to download:
http://dl.free.fr/qlBn0C2oj/ppc-conv.rar
clik on the "Télécharger ce fichier", sorry i'm french and don't know other file sender free
So how to do?
Extract the directory where you want
no need to setup anything
To convert:
1- you put your videos inside the dir VIDEOS
2- you start the "LANCE.BAT" inside main dir
3- you wait some hours
4- you transfer (with a copy! not a move) the .mp4 files inside the PMP dir on your X1
To clean when you have watch a video:
1- remove the files inside VIDEOS
2- on the next convert it will remove it from the PMP dir
Technical information:
Organization of the dir:
+---apps...........<- Main dir with the application
¦ +---.mplayer.....<- used by mencoder
¦ +---codecs.......<- used by mencoder
¦ +---mkvtoolnix...<- used for extract subtitles inside the mkv
¦ +---mplayer......<- used by mencoder
¦ ¦ +---conf.......<- used by mencoder
¦ ¦ +---font.......<- used by mencoder
¦ +---temp.........<- used for temporary step
+---pmp............<- where the final videos converted appears
+---temp...........<- used for temporary step
+---videos.........<- Where you put your videos and subtitles
Video are encoded into 640x360 1008kbit/s
Sound into aac 128kbit/s
works very fine in full screen
PS:
i share with you because i have try so much things and pass so much times to find a way, so i guess peharps someone else on earth wants this?
If you don't like it, don't download it
If you want more type of videos format send one to me and i will try
If you have problems says to me i will try to help but remember: it was a selfish script for me
Merci,
I will give it a try. I suppose that the settings wil give the greatest quality possible on an X1? ThanX once again
hyellow said:
Merci,
I will give it a try. I suppose that the settings wil give the greatest quality possible on an X1? ThanX once again
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yes, i have try better resolution and better quality for no visual difference and much more lag.
With these parameters i'm on the border. sometimes some very high details scene are laggy
I bought core player. What are the best settings for it for the x1? Right now mine is on Outpu: qtv display
Video quality high
Smooth Zoom: only for 50%
Dither: off
Does it always use hardware acceleration or do I have to turn it on?
Thanks!
contaygious said:
I bought core player. What are the best settings for it for the x1? Right now mine is on Outpu: qtv display
Video quality high
Smooth Zoom: only for 50%
Dither: off
Does it always use hardware acceleration or do I have to turn it on?
Thanks!
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you cannot have hard accel with any other application than media player.
So you need to make a special mp4 file to be able to read it with it. It's the goal of my script
There is a huge gap in quality between them.
Really? I thought the whole point of core player was codecs and hardware aceeleration. I guess I'll give your script a go then.
Thanks.
even without hw acc, mine still playback a 800MB DivX/Xvid .AVI movies just fine with coreplayer.
nap007 said:
even without hw acc, mine still playback a 800MB DivX/Xvid .AVI movies just fine with coreplayer.
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what is the parameter of tyour coreplayer? and what is the info of the xvid?
video: resolution/bps/codec
audio: /bps/codec
because i was not able to watch something better than 320x240 at 500kbps in full screen
nusul said:
what is the parameter of tyour coreplayer? and what is the info of the xvid?
video: resolution/bps/codec
audio: /bps/codec
because i was not able to watch something better than 320x240 at 500kbps in full screen
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core : qtv w tytn driver, high, dither/no = no real effect
buffers default except audio 128
sync audio w .avi in adv setting
vid xvid/divx around 600-650 x 300-350 res
bitrate around 800-1K kbps
audio mp3/aac 2chnl around 120kbps
it's not 100% smooth but enjoyable
I just tried Videora, a free iPod videoconverter.
Videora Website
Settings for Videora:
1. Power mode.
2. Choose File to convert.
3. Choose Destination Folder.
4. Choose a Title for the converted movie (Optional)
5. Choose Device = iPhone 3G
6. Choose Profile = MPEG4 480x320 768kbps Stereo/128kbit 2-Pass
7. Press Start Converting
Works really good, the video runs really smooth.
nap007 said:
core : qtv w tytn driver, high, dither/no = no real effect
buffers default except audio 128
sync audio w .avi in adv setting
vid xvid/divx around 600-650 x 300-350 res
bitrate around 800-1K kbps
audio mp3/aac 2chnl around 120kbps
it's not 100% smooth but enjoyable
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driver? does is it mean that you add something to your coreplayer?
no it's provided in coreplayer, in fact it's the default set in core if you're using qtv output in core.
try hard reset and install core again from fresh start; i've got some problems too a while ago and wasn't able to playback any video correctly at all; after hard reset those problems are gone.
Not to bug again about this, but doesn't CorePlayer not support Hardware acceleration on the XPeria? Doesn't Sony's player support it?
Many thanks nusul - I will give this a try! Appreciate your work on this
Tried to convert video but stript just flashes some opened windows but does nothing.
tried AVI/MP4 files in Video folder, no luck
Sorry, I have read this thread but I still have to ask for proper confirmation; you only get HW acceleration with Windows Media Player? So not when using the SE Media Experience panel?
I ask because I find the panel much faster when playing video than with Media Player (which takes at least the 1st five seconds of a movie to switch to landscape!!)
mkent_barbados said:
Sorry, I have read this thread but I still have to ask for proper confirmation; you only get HW acceleration with Windows Media Player? So not when using the SE Media Experience panel?
I ask because I find the panel much faster when playing video than with Media Player (which takes at least the 1st five seconds of a movie to switch to landscape!!)
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i have remove panel, so i cannot help you on this. But for me media player only take less than 1sec to switch in landscape.
Wlko said:
Tried to convert video but stript just flashes some opened windows but does nothing.
tried AVI/MP4 files in Video folder, no luck
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are you under xp? or vista?
i just try under a xp at office and it works fine.
I tried watching it with both media player and the player on the SE panel, both of them lag from time to time. It doesnt play smoothly.
i cant seem to dl the files, any other links?
I've been using the TD2 for almost a week now. Really really happy with it,but I haven't tested any videos yet,though it was one of my major priorities behind buying this phone. Actually I am bit concerned after some reviews of the phone by some websites,they stated the Video playback is not up to the mark(Like-Skipped frames,Sound cracking etc.). If this is true then the large 3.2' screen will make no sense and I would be very SAD. So please vote and input your comments.
BTW-By Video I mean AVI files(either .xvid or .divx encoded) for PC playback(VGA or above quality),please don't say anything about .mp4,3gp and Conversion of videos. Maybe CorePlayer is the option,I don't have it as it's not free.
Thanks in advance.
IME the device on its own barely plays any video formats and doesn't even play them so well. I bought CorePlayer and it plays most things and quite well too. Sometimes you just have to pay for stuff. Shame the UI is a bit ropey though.
convert the video first to smaller resolution..it will be better..and yes coreplayer is my favourite player too..
Without saying anything about certain formats we've been asked not to mention , I have converted some films (they had to be converted, they were DVDs to start with!) and have got to a place where I'm happy, extremely, very slight lip-sync issue, but watchable, and on the 3.2 screen they look great, no issues with Video, just need to get the Audio-Video sync sorted.
BTW-Haven't used an existing files, converted films specifically for TD2 (the ones converted for my XDA Orbit were a bit on the small size due to the screen size.
PS Only use HTC Album to view, WMP doesn't seem to want to play anything I give to it.
I have excellent quality with PocketDivxEncoder to make my movie smaller.
On my TD2/Topaz i use CorePlayer because it's WideScreen.
TCPMP won't run on my phone and WMP doesn't have the codecs.
Ok,so I got one thing-A conversion is a must for higher qualities. But I will not see high qualities/resolution on my TD2,I'll rather choose my 22" HD Dell monitor for that,but I thought I atleast can watch the DVD rips(the popular xvid encoded <=700mb)on my TD2 by Core player or else when I am on the go..haven't had a clear idea about it..anyways thnx for voting.
ithehappy said:
Ok,so I got one thing-A conversion is a must for higher qualities. But I will not see high qualities/resolution on my TD2,I'll rather choose my 22" HD Dell monitor for that,but I thought I atleast can watch the DVD rips(the popular xvid encoded <=700mb)on my TD2 by Core player or else when I am on the go..haven't had a clear idea about it..anyways thnx for voting.
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I'm guessing you are looking for a bit more clear answer, so I will try to give you one. The answer is - YES, you can easily watch DVD rips WITHOUT any conversion, on the go, by Coreplayer of course To me personally, any conversion at all is a misunderstanding. Sure, a phone isnt a PC, but if I pay so much for it, I demand that it can handle unconverted videos. And Topaz really does that very well As an example, I can tell you that I watch a lot of my favourite TV shows and series on the go without any compression, I just download my show (which has a resolution practially the same as DVD) and put it on my SD card. As far as You do not want to watch videos with more than 700x... resolution, you dont even have to convert anything. All in all, I'm very satisfied with my Topaz's video playback capabilities
oh and to be even more clear - all <=700MB xvid encoded movies running superb smoothly, WITHOUT any compression
jgal said:
I'm guessing you are looking for a bit more clear answer, so I will try to give you one. The answer is - YES, you can easily watch DVD rips WITHOUT any conversion, on the go, by Coreplayer of course To me personally, any conversion at all is a misunderstanding. Sure, a phone isnt a PC, but if I pay so much for it, I demand that it can handle unconverted videos. And Topaz really does that very well As an example, I can tell you that I watch a lot of my favourite TV shows and series on the go without any compression, I just download my show (which has a resolution practially the same as DVD) and put it on my SD card. As far as You do not want to watch videos with more than 700x... resolution, you dont even have to convert anything. All in all, I'm very satisfied with my Topaz's video playback capabilities
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Just to be clear, the ripped DVD can't just be a standard file, it has to have been converted first, even if that conversion keeps the resolution and size intact, even Coreplayer can't play vob files.
Coreplayer also doesn't support AC3 audio which is a huge limitation and disappointment This means that any video files with DD are no go.
watched the pilot of Caprica. The file was downloaded for PC viewing. was a Xvid encoded .avi file resoloution 624 x 352 and encoded with 23 fps with a data rate of 133 Kbps (It says 133kbps for audio as well, so I assume that is the total ofr both streams).
Played perfectly on Core player
Thank you guys for voting and commenting. I decided to test the topic by myself. And I am so unlucky to say that I got stunned by it. I copied a .xvid encoded .avi music video file(71mb),24fps,640*352 from my Desktop Pc to the TD2,played it with the CorePlayer 1.30(6213) and the result was TERRIBLE. It just didn't play anything at all. The sound was there but the video lagged all the way. So,what to do now? Huh,I decied that's it,as my major priority was watching video without any conversion has failed and failed so badly,so I am selling it. But except all this I liked it.
Thank you guys,bye.
I think 1.3.2 build 6909 is the current release so maybe the version you are using is a bit old. It should play xVid avis no problem at that resolution. You could alos try the free TCMP from which coreplayer was derived. http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/
ithehappy said:
Thank you guys for voting and commenting. I decided to test the topic by myself. And I am so unlucky to say that I got stunned by it. I copied a .xvid encoded .avi music video file(71mb),24fps,640*352 from my Desktop Pc to the TD2,played it with the CorePlayer 1.30(6213) and the result was TERRIBLE. It just didn't play anything at all. The sound was there but the video lagged all the way. So,what to do now? Huh,I decied that's it,as my major priority was watching video without any conversion has failed and failed so badly,so I am selling it. But except all this I liked it.
Thank you guys,bye.
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What was the data rate? My version of Core is older (1.25) and the same res file flew for me. It was a 700MB file for 90 odd minutes of video.
I tried two videos(music),here are the detail:
The First one,(a Taylor Swift video),72mb
The details from my PC- Time-4 mins 37 secs,Resolution 640*352,Audio format-Lame MP3,Audio Bit rate-192kbps and Video Frame rate-23fps/sec, Video Date rate-2099kbps, Video Sample size-24bits, Video compression-FFDS
Now when I tried to play that by Core Player 1.30 on my TD2,it didn't run at all,
Now the details of the Video by Core Player-
Video- AVC aka H.264,Codec-Core AVC and I played it for first 30 seconds and it played 67 frames and Dropped 985 frames,the rate was 1.527
Now the second music video,98.6mb
Resolution-512*384,Runtime-18 mins 57 seconds, Frame rate-23fps/sec,Data rate-710kbps,Video sample size-24bits,Video compression-XVID
Now Core player played this video well,very well infact,the Details by Core player,
Video-MPEG4,Codec-Core ASP,I watched it for first 6 mins and it played 744 frames and dropped 7,Played FPS-23.88
Thanks
I'm guessing that You copied your file to the memory card. If so, did You install SDTuneUp drivers? It looks like they are a must have.
Sir,I don't know what is SD tune up driver and where to install from. BTW-I don't have a memory card on my TD2,it didn't come out of the box and so lazy to buy a seperate one.
hi, I am wondering how the performance is watching football (soccer) highlights from youtube or www.footytube.com , does anyone have any ideas? I have tried this on sony Ericsson w995 and the ball is invisible :s
I know it has been mentioned before but converting using he HTC Touch HD ‘Encoder’ program works well using HTC Album playback on my stock ROM TD2 playing back from the SD Card.
I understand that some of you are resistant to converting files and do not want to go this route but I thought it might help some of those reading this thread that smooth HQ playback from the SD card is absolutely possible without paying any money if you spend the time converting files on a PC (or Mac).
Tony
Hi,
I am quite new to the Windows Mobile scene buying the new HTC HD2 (Leo).
I am looking to convert movie files from .AVI to .MP4 for my HD2 but I was wondering.
1) What is the best converter to use for a Mac.
2)What is the best settings. I.e. Bitrate, Audio, fps, kbps and so on.
I have tried a couple of settings but really have no clue to the best settings.
Any information and help is much appreciated!
I use the files that also work on my iPhone.
So,
.mp4 h.264
1408kbps or 768kbps
audio 160kbps
fps - I leave as the same as source
As for a MAC program - I would use Handrake.
All just my personal settings - others will of course, have other views.
What's the point of converting AVI? HD2 can play it pretty well without any conversion.
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What's the point of converting AVI? HD2 can play it pretty well without any conversion.
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File size? h.264 should be smaller for the same quality.
xaban said:
What's the point of converting AVI? HD2 can play it pretty well without any conversion.
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File size? h.264 should be smaller for the same quality.
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File size? h.264 should be smaller for the same quality.
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If your time is cheaper than a big memory card, you can waste it on converting etc.
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If your time is cheaper than a big memory card, you can waste it on converting etc.
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wow, who nicked the jam out of your donut?
If you read my original reply, I'm using files that I already have for my iPhone. some of which I've converted, others that I've downloaded.
So I've not really wasted any time. I was simply offering an option to the OP.
The main reason I added that it was my opinion, was so that others didn't need to add how things COULD be done differently, just for the sake of it.
now the OP has at least 2 options - Just use the avi's or re-encode ( or grab h.264 files from other sites).
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Can I ask you which player do you use.
I have movies on my sd card and with Coreplayer I get error message "File not found!\Storage (FFFFFFF8)". And with Windows media player I get error "Cannot play the file". Movie plays just fine from internal memory but that one lacks space.
Any advise would be much appreciated.
I forgotten to mention that the codec is Xvid.
I have tried playing some of my .avi formatted movies and I get errors with windows media player and I have tried a movie I d/l in .mp4 and both album and media player will play it but the screen is grey with sound and every now and then the picture will come on.
I'm guessing due to wrong settings.
I am just looking for the best settings to get smooth play and clearest viewing. I'm not too fussed with size as I have a large enough card.
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Can I ask you which player do you use.
I have movies on my sd card and with Coreplayer I get error message "File not found!\Storage (FFFFFFF8)". And with Windows media player I get error "Cannot play the file". Movie plays just fine from internal memory but that one lacks space.
Any advise would be much appreciated.
I forgotten to mention that the codec is Xvid.
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what version of coreplayer are you using?
anyway try 1.3.6. it should work
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wow, who nicked the jam out of your donut?
If you read my original reply, I'm using files that I already have for my iPhone. some of which I've converted, others that I've downloaded.
So I've not really wasted any time. I was simply offering an option to the OP.
The main reason I added that it was my opinion, was so that others didn't need to add how things COULD be done differently, just for the sake of it.
now the OP has at least 2 options - Just use the avi's or re-encode ( or grab h.264 files from other sites).
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I am using the same mate, I had all my AVI files converted to my old iPhone and I have found that they play great on my HTC HD2, infact I think they look even better with bigger screen, But that's just my opion.
The converter I used was download from the Pirate Bay and it's free from their home page VioVideoConverter
I'm not actually using coreplayer.
I did have coreplayer on my HTC Touch HD but i'm seeing about just utilising the album player and windows media player.
Any of the guys using HD2 can test these videos and let me know if they work fine or have problems playing?
http://www.multiupload.com/DYPQ7Q3LDW
I'm using the last Coreplayer.
But I figured if it works for you it should for me to.
So I figured out that if I run movie from Resco explorer or built in explorer the problem is still there but if I run it from Coreplayer via open command the movie works.
So there must be a problem how explorer sends a location path to the coreplayer on HD2.
Is this only me or do you experience the same behavior to?
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Any of the guys using HD2 can test these videos and let me know if they work fine or have problems playing?
http://www.multiupload.com/DYPQ7Q3LDW
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All three files play, but they seem a bit jerky in places. They're not the best samples to test video with.
They suffer from artifacts in quite a few place using WMP, and in Core Player, they are jerky. Personally, I wouldn't suffer watching them, but they do play.
It looks like you used isom advanced video codec. I find that h.264 gives superb results.
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All three files play, but they seem a bit jerky in places. They're not the best samples to test video with.
They suffer from artifacts in quite a few place using WMP, and in Core Player, they are jerky. Personally, I wouldn't suffer watching them, but they do play.
It looks like you used isom advanced video codec. I find that h.264 gives superb results.
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Well, they are done using x264, AVC is just a subset of it. Plays fine on the PC, but I have no HD2 to test yet, so need some help.
Hmm...I'm using mencoder/winmenc to encode, so can't just update without the coders of mencoder updating. Mencoder is in turn a derivative of x264 if i read correctly. Meanwhile I will do some research on a GUI for x264.exe. I've used mencoder for most of my encodes so far on other phones, and it's been pretty good to me.
Here's another two encodes, this time with lesser (only 1) ref-frames, and using the latest version of the mencoder.exe....do let me know if it's better/worse. One is with the [email protected] profile (which i guess will have trouble), the other is with the good old [email protected] profile.
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http://www.multiupload.com/TH2FNWZHO6
Main
http://www.multiupload.com/4JYVROSVSM
I have tested a couple of settings and I have found a format that works so far and is great quality.
I'm using Xilisoft Converter on Mac OS X.
MP4
Bit Rate: 2000-2500(Max)
Frame: 29.97
Audio Codec: mpeg4aac
Bit Rate: 192
Channel: 2
I am using the PS3 pre-settings then changes the video size to 800x480. It's great quality and plays smooth but the file size jumps from 700mb to 1.8g so any idea's on how to bring that down???
I'm still checking out different settings..
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I have tested a couple of settings and I have found a format that works so far and is great quality.
I'm using Xilisoft Converter on Mac OS X.
MP4
Bit Rate: 2000-2500(Max)
Frame: 29.97
Audio Codec: mpeg4aac
Bit Rate: 192
Channel: 2
I am using the PS3 pre-settings then changes the video size to 800x480. It's great quality and plays smooth but the file size jumps from 700mb to 1.8g so any idea's on how to bring that down???
I'm still checking out different settings..
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Your bitrate is too high.
If you're converting standard def media, 1200-1800 should be more than enough.
Also, if the resolution of the source is less than 800x480 in the first place, don't waste space trying to up the resolution. Re-encode at the original resolution.
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Well, they are done using x264, AVC is just a subset of it. Plays fine on the PC, but I have no HD2 to test yet, so need some help.
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They played much smoother for me on my desktop compared to on the phone.
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http://www.multiupload.com/TH2FNWZHO6
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http://www.multiupload.com/4JYVROSVSM
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Both seemed to play better than than the preivous encodes in WMP - no artifacts. Looked nice & smooth.
Core Player still struggled - very jerky.
Would be much easier to guage a non-animation/less dark sample.
Hi!
I want to know if there is a "best" way to enjoy the highest quality and smooth playback from veoh, youtube and also southpark.com .
Also, what settings do you recommend when converting movies, or mainly sitcoms dvds to the player. I want the best I can get without going into choppy mode...gotta love Three's Company on the go
Also recommendations on what program to use paid or free is welcome.
Thanks
I don't know about online website because most of them are usually choppy, but I do know about encoding videos for your Touch Pro2. If you want a free encoder (which I use) for your windows mobile phone it would be Windows Media Encoder (google it) its from Microsoft, it has built in settings for your windows mobile playback and you just have set resolution and how high your quality you would like. Also you could use At0mAng Enhanced D3D Driver to have a smoother movie on Windows Media Player on your Touch Pro 2. Thats pretty much it for putting movies on your Touch Pro 2.
Lots of trans-coders out there, but not nearly so many that can go directly from DVD to a file. Most you would have to rip from DVD first. A great exception is Handbrake (free). If you are going to use either Media Player or HTC album (both of which are accelerated under WM6.5), then you can go straight from DVD to high quality (720xwhatever, 1500kbps video MP4) and it plays flawlessly.
I will try that tonight.
I do have the D3D driver already.
BTW, I tried installing HTC album on my Tilt 2 but all I get is a was unsuccessful error.
Also with the Handbrake quote, you will need to have a unlocked DVD in order to rip your movie. Other that its mostly explained.
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Also with the Handbrake quote, you will need to have a unlocked DVD in order to rip your movie. Other that its mostly explained.
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I was not able to test much so I decided to give my favorite converter a shot (total video converter).
Used the pocket pc or similar profile and made the video (avi file) from 700MB to 400 by reducing quality but it was very choppy.
Then decided to give the original AVI a shot and it runs super smooth with core player (WMP cannot read it). The quality is awesome but way too big.
I tried the Windows Media Encoder 9 but I did not see a specific version that gives me the 400x800 resolution my device has.
Thanks
shaolin95 said:
I was not able to test much so I decided to give my favorite converter a shot (total video converter).
Used the pocket pc or similar profile and made the video (avi file) from 700MB to 400 by reducing quality but it was very choppy.
Then decided to give the original AVI a shot and it runs super smooth with core player (WMP cannot read it). The quality is awesome but way too big.
I tried the Windows Media Encoder 9 but I did not see a specific version that gives me the 400x800 resolution my device has.
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Shaolin, you are looking in the incorrect place, at first it doesn't let you choose your screen resolution because you must select the type of file that fits into a type of device that is going to play that file that you are trying to play in WMP on your phone.
Here are the steps to get the video size you want, which I hope you will try, you must go to the New Session Wizard, then click on Convert a File (If you are trying to convert a video file into WMV).
Then find your source file which is your Video you want to watch on your TP2, after that choose your output (Where you want to put that file after it encoded into WMV)
After click Pocket PC (Note that you won't change resolution here)
After all that, choose specifically Pocket PC widescreen video (CBR), then choose the quality of your Bitrate, Audio, and if you want you can add all the Description to your video file if you'd like. (Note that you won't change resolution here either)
Click next, and DON'T check mark Begin converting when I click finish.
Then click finish, after that click Properties on your Windows Media Encoder 9 (it should be on top with a Check mark inside a paper symbol) and click the Video Size Tab. There at the bottom of the wizard you should find Width and Height, set the Resolution to 800 x 480 if you want to view your video horizantel or 480 x 800 which is vertical ( which I don't prefer ) After all that, your video should be small but at a good quality and allowing you to have free space on your Micro SD card, and it should be playing on WMP on your phone.
Hope this helps, good luck,
Kenichi