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Continious Overclocking to 247 MHZ, Safe??

Hey, i Am using the Omap Battery status plugin and I was wondering if I it was safe to overclock the device to 247 MHZ constantly so it will turn on and jump to 247 all the time. Will this have any longterm effect on the device? will it damage the cpu?? do i have to worry ??

exxi said:
Hey, i Am using the Omap Battery status plugin and I was wondering if I it was safe to overclock the device to 247 MHZ constantly so it will turn on and jump to 247 all the time. Will this have any longterm effect on the device? will it damage the cpu?? do i have to worry ??
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Should be fine - have overclocked my wizard and artemis to 247mhz without a problem - many overclock to 260mhz.

Should be alright, since many htc devices are running on TI OMAP 850 cpus. Overclocked my Prophet a log time to 247MHz with no problems.

I don't think it will do any harm, I am clocking at 247 constantly, for about a half year. no prob so far

I overclock my MDA to 286Mhz and don't have any problems. YMMV, but given that the OMAP in the Herald is a newer rev, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a little more headroom in it.

FYI: My Wing has arrived, and it's currently overclocked to 299MHz without any issues.

over 300 makes it freeze right??

exxi said:
over 300 makes it freeze right??
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Try and tell me how it goes!!! *evil*
Never thought 299 would be stable on an OMAP, but it's definitly because of the newer revisions of the OMAPs in HTC latest devices. My old prophet would have burned by anything above 234/247MHz

312MHZ Freeze, okay after Soft reset, no evident damage.
I run it on 260 continuously now, do you run yours on 273 continuously ?

exxi said:
312MHZ Freeze, okay after Soft reset, no evident damage.
I run it on 260 continuously now, do you run yours on 273 continuously ?
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I ran it for two weeks stable, but at 286MHz I already had some sudden freezes.
I'm using 273MHz now with BatteryStatus CPU Scaler.
Running 273MHz continiously results in heavy battery drain (1 max 1,5 days), not a big surprise.

no damage to be expected on long term use ?

Nope. I used it on wizard for 2 years without problems.

Guys newbie to overclocking, how? program? couldnt find on the wiki. talking about the wing/herald/atlas

cyberjr said:
Guys newbie to overclocking, how? program? couldnt find on the wiki. talking about the wing/herald/atlas
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Search either for OMAPclock or BatteryStatus (in the HTC Prophet section) I recommend last, because it has many other practical features you might like. OMAPclock would simply be for oc'ing. cheers

my wizard runs at 299 software crashes at 312 but the phone doesn't

sorry if this is a lil random but i've joined a couple of forums already and have lost track what is where, how do i go about installing the battery status plug in on my t-mobile wing, i have a link which can either give me a .cab file or the desktop set up, i know nothing about overclocking and would appreciate any advice to this, sorry if this was already in this thread

Download the latest BatteryStatus (CAB-file) from the sticky thread in the HTC Prophet section and copy it onto your Wing and doubleclick the CAB to install. Everything else should be easy to figure out, otherwise come back here

emonsiv said:
sorry if this is a lil random but i've joined a couple of forums already and have lost track what is where, how do i go about installing the battery status plug in on my t-mobile wing, i have a link which can either give me a .cab file or the desktop set up, i know nothing about overclocking and would appreciate any advice to this, sorry if this was already in this thread
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...and please read up on overclocking... You don't wanna fry your Wing - get it - fried wings!!! I slay me!!! LOL!!!

thanks for the help guys, lol on the fried wings, fried t-mobile wing = most expensive non-edible wing i've ever bought

Sooo which program is better to use on the wing? OMAP or Battery status?

Overclocking - is it possible?

i am wondering if there is any possibility to overclock the cpu of the HD as it was possible on old HTC devices with omap processors?
i often found the HD to be very slow and i would like some more speed 9as probably most of us)
would it be adviseble to overclock it?
thanks for any useful info!

would be very cool! i bet htc is running it in a ridicolous safe speed =)

no infos on that matter?
any tech guy with some more experience?
nobody?

i did some research in to the matter, and there are some things that can be changed but i believe its just timeings, at the moment it would appear that you can not adjust the clock speed its self.
Also, changing the timings seemed to have a negative affect on stability, id imagin that whilst the clock speed may be running low, the timings are about as tight as you can get.

anyone tried using Pocket Hack Master yet?

will try it out tonight

I tried it but it didn't work. May not have been the right version perhaps.
It was a few weeks ago so I can't remember what actually happened when I tried it sorry.

there is a dynamic overclocking software for specifically qualcomm chipset. it's good anyway.

JohnQ said:
there is a dynamic overclocking software for specifically qualcomm chipset. it's good anyway.
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Don't be coy. Let us in on the action

JohnQ said:
there is a dynamic overclocking software for specifically qualcomm chipset. it's good anyway.
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i wonder what software that would be?
can you point it for us? any details about it? would it be dangerous for HD integrity?

just installed it, then bells rang..... ur processor is not supported, looked rubbishw when the app loaded up. all distored, defiantely not meant for our wvga. Soooooo whats this qualcom overclocking software... i will explore google see what i can find.....

id give up, i searched for ages to no avail, i believe the only thing that can we tweaked are various timings but it seems that almost any attempt improve these results in instability and crashing.

I'm not really interested in overclocking, but I saw this thread and remembered I saw somewhere else some info on this subject.
Perhaps this is something to try:
http://www.htc-touch-info.com/en/overclocking/

Updated: March 2, 2009
WTF?!?!?!anyone tested stability of the 2 day old version?

HappyLlama said:
I'm not really interested in overclocking, but I saw this thread and remembered I saw somewhere else some info on this subject.
Perhaps this is something to try:
http://www.htc-touch-info.com/en/overclocking/
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This won't work - the Touch HD has a Qualcomm processor NOT an OMAP

Yes Please let us in on the action

well, i've saw this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507798&highlight=overclock , but you guys read carefully, its apeears to be no effect, through if it has, every processor u overclock have its life shortened...i've a blue angel, 400 mhz working at a 200~530, xscale processor can do this (change it's frequency accordinto to the necessary) but i wond the Qualcomm ones do the same (according to the post appears to not, but it's no cleary).
everyone may say...so all you said righ now is a load of crap... Thats not, i'm just sharing wat i've discovered until now, since i've gone to blackstone few day ago.

Blackstone is slow?? I'm about to get it in several days. Please enlight me when comparing blackstone with Hermes (currently using). Thanks

damikey said:
Blackstone is slow?? I'm about to get it in several days. Please enlight me when comparing blackstone with Hermes (currently using). Thanks
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i think most if not all winmo is slow but i love it still lol

Speedbooster and your Diamond will fly!!

Hi to all, I would share with you my experience with this software:
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=speedbooster
just installed on my Diamond, and now everything runs smoother and faster!!
I don't know exactly how it works but I must say that it's amazing!

I didn't notice any difference ... :/

Thanks Diego,
I will play around with it this to compare the before and after.

give us a screenshot with the settings that you made so we can try them, I didn't notice any difference either...

diego1810 said:
Hi to all, I would share with you my experience with this software:
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=speedbooster
just installed on my Diamond, and now everything runs smoother and faster!!
I don't know exactly how it works but I must say that it's amazing!
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Yes, it makes a difference for my diamond too.
I'm using the settings shown on their forum:
Code:
increase gwes.exe for overall drawing speed
increase targetapp.exe to make it run smoother
change target app to the process you use most, like browser or game.

Does this app have any impact on Battery?

xavierdemon said:
Does this app have any impact on Battery?
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overclocking usually kills the battery but diamond microprocessor cant be overcloced... i dont understand very well what does this app do to the device....
i am gonna try it... the posted one is trial 5 days.

It does not overclock the diamond CPU as so far it is not possible, i have CPU benchmarked before and after to prove this and it is no different.
I also do not notice any performance difference from this software, but that may be due to running duttys rom which already includes many performance tweaks.

I installed the trial and maybe I was being paranoid but my battery levels were just dropping more than normal and I wasn't even using the phone . Didn't notice any improvement on the phone either while I had a quick play.
Speedbooster uninstalled.

Speedbooster - Does it work??
Well... I downloaded the 5 day trial but the trial is limited to only partially tweaking/enhancing aspects of the Diamond.
But in saying that I noticed some apps refreshing faster. At almost 15 Euro's I am not game enough to buy this program to see if it works. Our poor Australian dollar would make this program as expensive as 9 BigMacs (without fries!) or half a tank of petrol.
I have tried so many tweaking programs and my conclusion is that if you want your Diamond to run faster wait for future models with a faster processor than the now old & slow Qualcomm 528Mhz. I read that 600 Mhz to 1 Ghz processors are coming.
I would certainly give up my 9 BigMacs for a faster CPU. Only with that will we see a real speed boost in our HTC's!!!
Aussie

correct me if I am wrong but doesnt changing the Pagepool do the same?
anyway all we are talking about here is a milliseconds in time difference.
Are we that time poor that we cant wait 0.5 second for an app to load?
The diamond has its limitations & i would say after a year or so of tweaking the ROMs & all the apps that we have just about reached that limitation.
sounds like a scam to me

No much good reactions, thats sad, i hoped this program would be a nice add-on to our Diamond.
Yeah, just lets wait on new phones with a decent processor, 1 Ghz would be awesome, i'm sure they are will coming very soon

aussie1234 said:
Well... I downloaded the 5 day trial but the trial is limited to only partially tweaking/enhancing aspects of the Diamond.
But in saying that I noticed some apps refreshing faster. At almost 15 Euro's I am not game enough to buy this program to see if it works. Our poor Australian dollar would make this program as expensive as 9 BigMacs (without fries!) or half a tank of petrol.
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it tried a full cracked version and didnt like it. after a lot of benchmarks i didnt notice any difference...

Ι also used ful verison, to my custom rom, and turn to full gwes.exe and manila2.exe . The diference is very big. I didnt expected it. I dont know if the same will happen to original rom version . (I dont think there is manila2.exe to the original rom)

sosimple said:
Ι also used ful verison, to my custom rom, and turn to full gwes.exe and manila2.exe . The diference is very big. I didnt expected it. I dont know if the same will happen to original rom version . (I dont think there is manila2.exe to the original rom)
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Yeah its the same for me. Speedbooster makes some apps run much faster.
Strange thing is that the benchmark result is usually the same. This might be a good thing - meaning that the CPU speed remains the same, but it just gives more power to some specific app instead of another. Actually this is exactly what I want:
I don't care about the stupid OS doing stupid things, but I DO CARE about my GPS or webbrowser - and here this proggie seems to give a useful hand.
I agree about the price, is a bit expensive, but at least it works

About the price...
You can get it for free on the developer's website, it's some kind of promotion, you only need to install it, run a benchmark with the built in tool, and post your score:
http://teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2011
hurry up, I don't know how much it will last!

How it works.
It modifies the process priority similarly to the task manager in windows.
It does other stuff too but that's basically what it does.

and what's the verdict ? does it speed up our Diamonds ? (i was testing it... and didn't notice any difference :/ )

It DOES have impact on performance.
Its very easy to test. Try to lower the system apps and services and you will se that the device run slower.
On TF3D its very clear the it makes it run faster/slower if you change the priority.
My opinion; It works...somehow.

Benchmarked VillainROM 6.2.0

Hey guys, I just benchmarked my Hero(Telus) ... VillainRom 6.2.0 ... used the app from the market(blue table graph icon), just wondering what everyone else is being benched at??
The only thing that is backgrounded is the Desk Clock that comes with Rosie.
117.164 total graphics score
161.830 total CPU score
118.092 total memory score
37.326 total file system score

This means nothing if you don't post your CPU speed.

havn't touched cpu ... ROM and radio only updates ... not using setCPU, or the other popular overclocker, or any for that matter.

Graphic 119.479836
CPU 185.26137
Memory 139.53342
Filesystem 35.040806

bulltronStudios said:
havn't touched cpu ... ROM and radio only updates ... not using setCPU, or the other popular overclocker, or any for that matter.
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Ok, so what is the default CPU settings for that ROM, then?

Well, the thread is for a particular rom, so, everyone should have same default for the rom, check google if your that curious
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LOL! Ok.
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bulltronStudios said:
Hey guys, I just benchmarked my Hero(Telus) ... VillainRom 6.2.0 ... used the app from the market(blue table graph icon), just wondering what everyone else is being benched at??
The only thing that is backgrounded is the Desk Clock that comes with Rosie.
117.164 total graphics score
161.830 total CPU score
118.092 total memory score
37.326 total file system score
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Why would you be spamming the forum with YET another benchmark thread, while there are quite a few of them already; post in those.

adwinp said:
Why would you be spamming the forum with YET another benchmark thread, while there are quite a few of them already; post in those.
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guess i didn't cruise to page 400 in the forums ... figured mabye alot of ppl were downloading this ROM ... it does seem to be the fan favorite. and perhaps save people looking 399 pages past this one ...

Graphic: 146.38194
CPU: 227.27559
Memory: 153.31569
Filesys: 35.0106
HTC Hero, [email protected](Max)/352MHz(Min)

bulltronStudios said:
guess i didn't cruise to page 400 in the forums ... figured mabye alot of ppl were downloading this ROM ... it does seem to be the fan favorite. and perhaps save people looking 399 pages past this one ...
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Well, I guess if people are willing to download a new rom, they would like to look into all their options, not only one. For that matter, this thread (found on page 3) is much more helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656818
What's the point of having 20 people posting their results with the same rom on the same hardware? Are you going for a statistics? And your argument about people having to scroll around is completely pointless, because your thread won't stay on page 1 forever, you know? So people *will* have to scroll again to see it...

DeXa said:
Graphic: 146.38194
CPU: 227.27559
Memory: 153.31569
Filesys: 35.0106
HTC Hero, [email protected](Max)/352MHz(Min)
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Now, THAT's meaningful!

DeXa said:
Graphic: 146.38194
CPU: 227.27559
Memory: 153.31569
Filesys: 35.0106
HTC Hero, [email protected](Max)/352MHz(Min)
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what kind of heat are you putting off at 748??
what are you using for overclock? setCPU?

killer4o said:
Well, I guess if people are willing to download a new rom, they would like to look into all their options, not only one. For that matter, this thread (found on page 3) is much more helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656818
What's the point of having 20 people posting their results with the same rom on the same hardware? Are you going for a statistics? And your argument about people having to scroll around is completely pointless, because your thread won't stay on page 1 forever, you know? So people *will* have to scroll again to see it...
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all i was saying was, in response to first dude, marinerb ... was I did NOT put aything on my phone, also, that i had STOCK rom ... if people have overclocks, good, post em, i dont, so i didn't list it.... looking for comparison, no need to be nazi's about it ... so, yeah... just let the thread die.

bulltronStudios said:
what kind of heat are you putting off at 748??
what are you using for overclock? setCPU?
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I don't notice more heat than usual. I only notice heat when charging and it's from the battery. Battery life is better than with stock settings. I use SetCPU, no profiles, ondemand governor and ben39_nobfs_noCC_no-whining kernel.

Thread Moved.

DeXa said:
Graphic: 146.38194
CPU: 227.27559
Memory: 153.31569
Filesys: 35.0106
HTC Hero, [email protected](Max)/352MHz(Min)
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is yours stable at 748 if you run the setcpu stress tester for a minute or two?
if so then that's cool - I might have to try that speed too. I know mine locks up instantly at 780mHz more or less, but solid as a rock at 730. I have a feeling I tried 748 and it slowed to a crawl in the stress test and became really unresponsive yet not fully locking up... which to me makes that speed much worse than keeping it a little slower with 100% stability.
EDIT: stress testing 748 right now and it's still working ok... so maybe I stress tested a higher speed instead? running at basically 750mHz is freakin amazing for our little heroes if we can keep them running like that for the next couple of years
update: stress tested my phone at 748mHz results: lasted for 112725 ms before I exited the test with no errors! This little hero is so amazing!
EDIT: whoops - just reset itself LoL.... damn, I hope it boots up ok since I got cocky and set it to boot with the 748 top speed.... damn...
But I'll try it again - you've got me curious now

I have not stress tested the device but it runs stable for a couple of days now. No reboots and no lockups. The devices are somehow different some cannot run at 748 others can. Mine is even stable at 768Mhz but I i suffer less battery life with that setting, so I leave it 748 and everything is ok.

Dexa can you link me that kernel? I'm running ben39_nobfs_no-whining kernel clocked at 738mhz stable with stress testing and I'm curious about the noCC part that you're running. Thanks!

Ah never mind I found it; there was an updated version.

[Q] The NAND version.

Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.

fred89 said:
Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
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Maybe will be available in September, maybe not.
Use search function will be more helpful.

remember use the michyprima's zimage, it pushs my quadrant score to 1817

fred89 said:
Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
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Good things come to those, who wait. ;-)
B.R.
d3m0n

JJbdoggg said:
how exactly do you know that? any proof?
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my mistacke...by overclocking each HW component works much more stable and cooler. I hear temperature is 10 c lower when you overclock hd2

i see your point but there are hundreds of people are using the oc'ed kernel in shubcrafts build yet ive seen VERY few complaints
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Everyone! i have suceeded in making teh androids run on teh nands the link is -***MOD EDIT- Link removed: Extremely obscene material.Immediate ban placed on this user account***

Problems ? i have E8400 Oc to 4.0 ghz for every day. its 100 % stable with custom cooling .
Thats does not change the fact he is runing much more hotter and more IMPORTANT his life span is reduced very much.
hd2 cpu OC'ed that much with no cooling at all can cause great deal of hw problems in long therm. be sure in that.

11cal cal i know oure problem,it ia because we are waiting for a new shui8 android build......we need some sleep lol...btw,i do not want a nand version,i want a nas version with network share so i can run android remotely haha..
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

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and melts down your hd2 cpu ...dough
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let me also say that overclock is optional. there are optimizations (code is optimized for armv7-a architecture, and other optimizations), but overclock is not enabled by default. w/ my kernel mhz range is 245-998.
Also CPU is downvolted so that means minor battery usage and higher cpu life due to minor voltage.
So why are you saying something that's not true?

@JJbdoggg
@michyprima you are talking about builds ( which only have OC option enabled ) and im talking about alrady Oc'ed devices with such builds

most builds do not have it enabled by default. atleast none that Ive tested. The kernal gives the ability to do it but it isnt set till setcpu is used.
My co-worker has been running his droid fulltime overclocked and has had no problems. I highly doubt any overclocking of phones is that extreme.
If the life span of your desktop cpu is reduced then you are either one applying to much voltage or two using not enough cooling.
Heres more info just to clarify.
http://www.overclockers.com/overclockings-impact-on-cpu-life/

i see i will have to explain some facts about overcloking so everybody understand, so we stop talking nonsense.
Each CPU have its own lifetime , some of earlyer Intel sockets had its lifetime of about 100 000 work hours.
Each time you give CPU more voltage, more than he is supposed to have, he is producing more temperature which offcourse lower his lifetime by certain amount of work hours compared to planed lifetime.
You all talk some nonsense, how some of your friends uses OC HW or phones few weeks or months. if you had time to read my post precisely, you could noticed i said in long therm.
Back again to OC..using custom cooling will only make cpu stable, will not restart or overhear due to over -voltage.
and there is many more factors that is making slighty different situation in hd2 cpu compared to pc...
Negative side is that there is no cooling..only positive side is that hd2 cpu is most of time working on 200-400 mhz depending on the thing you are doing on your phone at the time.
but be sure when you use his full potential, like in multimedia (gaming, playing video ...) in that OC condition, in long therm you are risking to cause HW problems on your phone because of over voltage -missing any kind of cooling that OC 'ed cpu.
my last msg about this.
Cheers

I guess he didnt read my exact post detailing the negative effects and how to determine them... I guess its nonsense even though its factual.