It seems as if there's some code in the SMS-receiving app that says 'if the phone is reporting low memory, fire a 'warning' notification and completely forget the message I just got sent'. We do not get to see who sent the message, and the sender is not sent a 'message failed' response.
As we know the phone reports 'low memory' a bit cautiously, you could actually have 10mb spare - plenty for an SMS. It's possible for the phone to reach a 'low memory' status whilst in your pocket, so the user doesn't know he's going to miss txts until one comes in.
Could really do with a mod to do something about this - still show the warning but accept the text as normal rather than dropping it?
This would go wrong if there actually isn't enough space to store the message (<1k?), but if the warning fires on every text then at least the user has had a chance to do something about it.
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It seems as if there's some code in the SMS-receiving app that says 'if the phone is reporting low memory, fire a 'warning' notification and completely forget the message I just got sent'. We do not get to see who sent the message, and the sender is not sent a 'message failed' response.
As we know the phone reports 'low memory' a bit cautiously, you could actually have 10mb spare - plenty for an SMS. It's possible for the phone to reach a 'low memory' status whilst in your pocket, so the user doesn't know he's going to miss txts until one comes in.
Could really do with a mod to do something about this - still show the warning but accept the text as normal rather than dropping it?
This would go wrong if there actually isn't enough space to store the message (<1k?), but if the warning fires on every text then at least the user has had a chance to do something about it.
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Can the Nexus One actually run out of memory to receive a mere SMS? :/ Has this ever happened to you before or is this just a hypothetical question/request?
I don't think he would talk so specifically about it in detail if he was just making it up. I've lost an sms before too.
I was under the warning limit, but between 10mb and 20mb free, and my phone decided to tell me there wasn't enough room on the phone when an sms came in and that's that. No indication as to whom it was from, and definitely no way to get it again.
Yeap, it definitely does this. I've had it happen a few times and very annoying it is too. The message never gets received but shows as delivered at the other end.
Yes it has happened to me several times since having the N1, and just a few days ago on 2.2. Sometimes it's been 'my fault' because I've ignored the 'low on memory' notification, sometimes it's been the first I've heard of it - by then it's too late.
Either way, just dropping the message like that is not good :-/
Oh, and no, I don't think I've ever *actually* run out of memory, I've seen that 'low memory' warning appear but still have just under 10mb free.
So I think the SMS-receiving-code is being overly cautious/strict.
+1 for some workaround for this situation, when I went from cyan ext3 to froyo stock and trying fit everything on I did lose a few texts, which I had no idea where they were from.
what is the low memory warning? Can this phone actually run out of memory?
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what is the low memory warning? Can this phone actually run out of memory?
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Low internal storage space. The SMS's are not saved in ram you know? Install too many applications and you run out of internal storage space.
So can we clarify if this is low MEMORY or low STORAGE being as the two are completely different?
I've had missing messages so this may explain it?
It is when you have low STORAGE. Internal storage to be precise. Would be nice if you could have SMS going to mem-card. But yes, I have had the same issue in the past. And there is no way to retrieve the 'delivered' message that I know of. Very annoying.
Yes, low storage.
Install a load of stuff... Google Earth and Fennec beta should do it, and you'll get the warning. But it's a bit over-sensitive, you could still have 10mb or so left.
There's an issue for this on the official tracker:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=4991
doesn't look like it'll be looked at in a hurry though as there's not very many stars... so I hope a mod might be possible until G gets around to it?
(if you want to register your interest in the issue just star it, no need to comment with a 'me too' unless you're adding some info)
Edit: please keep 'store messages on SD card' to another thread... that is a big job, and it's not like we would actually have problems storing one 250-character message when we've got 10mb of space. The fix is for it to ignore that warning.
IDEA, install a program that when internal mem is detected as below the threshold where the system will rej, and overwride the default messaging and take hold of the message itself (and presumably SD it)
a very irratating bug indeed.. i have missed countless sms cause i have tonz of apps installed on an unrooted fone; leading to low internal storage RAM and thus getting this error... FROYO isnt much of a help with the option to put apps to SD since the apps have to integrate that feature and 95% of apps currently in the marked dont have that feature YET.. even GOOGLE Earth (25mb <- WAAA so big!!!) ..
I've added a comment to the bug. I would suggest everyone else does if you want this bug fixed officially, otherwise talk nicely to a dev on this forum
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I've added a comment to the bug. I would suggest everyone else does if you want this bug fixed officially, otherwise talk nicely to a dev on this forum
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No, don't add a COMMENT, just add a STAR. 'Me too' comments get emailed to everyone and are annoying. STARs register interest. Thanks!
So is it possible to fix this with a mod? Is it even in the SMS app or is it some other code that handles receiving the message?
try this post for altering your low space threshold:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877793
I have had this happen to me too.
The most infuriating part of the matter is that the phone rejects the message, but the message is GONE forever. You have no idea who sent it, and they have no idea you never got the message. On top of that, there is still nearly 20mb of space left. WTF the phone needs to reject a 1kb sms when there is 20mb of space left completely blows my mind.
It is a terrible glitch and one of the few things I severely dislike about android.
One option could be an app for when the phone hits low storage, to put the phone in air plane mode?
This would prevent ANY sms from being rejected until you delete space, and take the phone out of air plane mode.
Once you get up to the limit on apps no matter where the low storage limit is set you always run the risk of running into it. It would be better to simply put all the data on sd, there would be no performance hit and the problem is permafixed. As an added advantage all your texts are backed up locally and with just a little more coding could be set up to be restored as needed when the app was reinstalled on the same or new device.
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I have had this happen to me too.
The most infuriating part of the matter is that the phone rejects the message, but the message is GONE forever. You have no idea who sent it, and they have no idea you never got the message. On top of that, there is still nearly 20mb of space left. WTF the phone needs to reject a 1kb sms when there is 20mb of space left completely blows my mind.
It is a terrible glitch and one of the few things I severely dislike about android.
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It is not that simple. AFAIK sms/mms are stored in the sqlite database. Which needs some maneuver space to operate normally. In fact, android SQLiteOpenHelper under certain threshold will open the database only in the readonly mode. Which seems to be happening here.
The pragmatic solution would be to "tweak" the free space display and show the real size minus some 30mb "reserve". So, the user would see "0 bytes left" and would not complain. Better still - stop receiving messages and signal "memory full" to the Short Message Service Center. Adding nagging notifications to the user. Seems like unfinished work by google.
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Once you get up to the limit on apps no matter where the low storage limit is set you always run the risk of running into it. It would be better to simply put all the data on sd, there would be no performance hit and the problem is permafixed. As an added advantage all your texts are backed up locally and with just a little more coding could be set up to be restored as needed when the app was reinstalled on the same or new device.
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The SD way would be a straight road to hell, since all the data can "disappear" from under your arse at any random moment.
It's enough just to plug-in the USB cable or simply pop-out the card (easily doable on many models).
Even worse: someone can easily delete anything on the card since it is a stupid FAT32 with no permissions whatsoever. O just insert different SD card from the different phone. It is far from trivial to define what should the apps do in this case.
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What is up with the memory drain on this device. I'll start the day with 24mb of memory (soft reset) and only have 10mb or less at the end of the day with no apps but activesync running. Has anyone less notice this?
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What is up with the memory drain on this device. I'll start the day with 24mb of memory (soft reset) and only have 10mb or less at the end of the day with no apps but activesync running. Has anyone less notice this?
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Yea I get the same problem. Except I start off with about 20 and end up with as low as 9 before i'm forced to soft reset.
Its the magic of the Mogul's memory leak. The old rom and new rom feature it so untill a new update comes out, were stuck with it.
Does the Hermes and Kaiser have the same issue? They seem to be similar. They other thing is that the WM6 is suppose to have made those apps that leak in previous versions run at the kernel level.
my titan doesnt have the issue. its an app you've got installed. hard reset and dont install anything, you wont have the problem. troubleshooting 101. dont blame the titan.
I posted this on another forum discussing this problem, so I'll just quote myself here:
The memory "leak" thing is nothing more than a cache "optimization" in place to make the device respond snappier.
Whether it succeeds or not is another story altogether...
Basically, like any cache, it stores recent calculations for faster response later. For example, if you open and close IE alot, you might notice that the first time you open it on a fresh restart takes a little bit longer than the next times- that's because the second time you start it up, parts of it are still in memory from the first time!
You might be wondering why this happens even after forcing it closed with Xbutton or the memory settings. That's because the info stored in the performance cache aren't directly related to any one program! Many apps can use the same routines and calculations, and therefore this process exists on a processor/file system layer as opposed to a software layer, and therefore also exists even when all programs are closed!
Meaning, if I have mapopolis that uses a certain routine to access my BT GPS receiver, even after I close it, some of that routine stays in memory because perhaps Google Maps will use the same routine, and therefore respond faster!
Now, ideally, this should speed up performance, and it SHOULD disappear on its own if the memory is needed and the information goes "stale" (hasn't been processed in a while = not really needed for optimized perfomance). However, one look at the way Microsoft handles "automatically closing apps" (native X button, anyone?) is enough to know that WM can't manage its own memory very well.
I can, however, vouch for the fact that the longer you leave all programs closed, the more of your memory starts to creep back into available. I've sat and watched this happen. So, it sort of works, but perhaps not well enough if people are having low memory system crash problems.
Now, before you all start blaming MS for this... Its not Microsoft's problem. They developed CE-5 (which WM6 is based on) on machines limited to 32MB to make sure the programmers didn't get lazy with OS bloat.
Its the manufacturers who add all this file system optimization and stuff to their final device. In this case, its the way HTC thinks the system should run, which is why this anomaly is NOT as apparent on, say, a WM Treo device.
The good news is that if we complain enough, HTC might realize this optimization does more bad than good, and leave it out on the next ROM update for us.
However, truth be told, I think it works. The Mogul is one of the snappiest PPC's I've used of late, although I can't say for sure if its because of the cache or not.
This is just my personal opinion, so don't flog me! I just don't look at the memory useage anymore unless I'm having a problem, which mind you, I hardly do.
My most recent observations were this:
Soft reset gives me ~21MB (got some htc plugins), and after a day of use, making sure to close everything after I'm done, I get 18-19MB. At lowest, I hit 10MB after closing alot of apps. This memory usually comes back to 18-19mb in a matter of time for me. If for some strange reason it doesn't (can't say how often this happens), I soft reset.
All in all, I'm happy with the Mogul.
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I wasn't blaming the Titan directly, although I wish they would allow you to adjust the memory like they have in the past. But as I've read that may having something to do with chipset of battery consumption.
I was just wondering if others had the same issue and might know of the reason.
Is there a list of known apps that cause memory 'drain' or don't clear their cache. I can understand apps caching data into memory to run faster, but they are not cleaning themselves out upon exit. The strange thing is how they continue to grow over the course of the day with no interaction.
I'm doing a hard reset to see if it get better. Add apps one at a time until I find an issue.
Ok did a hard reset. Setup Outlook to get my mail from Exchange and Gmail. Let it get synced and then did a soft reset. Started with 24mb after reset, down to 21mb without doing anything after an hour and it's still falling. The only thing running is ActiveSync. I've also removed htc_cm_guardain and ssdaemon from the startup. The only thing in startup is poutlook.
The thing I noticed when I had handyswitcher installed (before hard reset) was that filesys, device, gwes, services, shell and cprog all continously increased there memory consumption over the course of a few hours and never stopped or released it.
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I wasn't blaming the Titan directly, although I wish they would allow you to adjust the memory like they have in the past. But as I've read that may having something to do with chipset of battery consumption.
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No no no... the reason you used to be able to select storage vs RAM was because it was SHARED memory! It was actually all RAM. If you had a 64MB device, that 64mb was split between ram and storage, and just like the rest of your RAM, it would wipe out when the battery died!
Ever since WM5 came along, they stopped sharing the memory, and now have dedicated RAM and Storage (using the leftover space on the EPROM chips used for the ROM image), much like a computer. This is a much better solution since you don't sacrifice your RAM for storing some large files, and you don't have to worry about battery failure cleaning you out!
Also, its not the apps that have cache, its the file system. The file system WILL actually free up some of that memory as the device is left with all apps closed for a while (maybe not all of it, but I've watched my device go from 11mb free after closing stuff to 18-19mb).
You guys need to hit the easy button on this one! It may not be a permanent fix, but there's a small freeware called Oxios Hibernate that releases RAM. I just put it on my start menu and 2 clicks....I have free RAM. Try it out, you won't be disappointed.
bam, thanks for the info... that little app rocks.
use a file explorer and go to \Windows\Startup. There is a shortcut there for a program along the lines of HTC_Guardian_cmsomething. This app is a htc app used to enforce sprint settings and runs in the background. So long as you don't destroy your phone internet settings you can just remove the shortcut. I found all my memory leak issues have gone away. I don't have any leaks when using the kaiser tab plugin.
Yes I've removed the links for HTC_Guardian and SSDaemon from startup and added them to my settings folder (if I ever need them). I soft reset to around 25mb and the Oxios Hibernate app keeps me around 24.5mb.
what does SDdaemon do?
sddaemon is suppose to be the speed dial or voice command app you get when you hit the button on the left side with the talk bubble. It loads the app if you hit the button, so I'm not sure why they have it in startup.
On my old Treo 700W, which REALLY had a memory problem, I used Oxios hibernate all the time. It works quite well.
yes, it works.
bam099 said:
You guys need to hit the easy button on this one! It may not be a permanent fix, but there's a small freeware called Oxios Hibernate that releases RAM. I just put it on my start menu and 2 clicks....I have free RAM. Try it out, you won't be disappointed.
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you know what might help...if windows mobile had some sorta sorta disk caching feature...
that's what is causing the memory leak.
great tips. thanks.
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Yes I've removed the links for HTC_Guardian and SSDaemon from startup and added them to my settings folder (if I ever need them). I soft reset to around 25mb and the Oxios Hibernate app keeps me around 24.5mb.
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Something is eating my internal memory. I'm aware of the BT issue, but I don't use BT... it has to be something else. Any pointers on how to track this down?
What do you mean by "eating"?
Apps and app data use internal memory.
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What do you mean by "eating"?
Apps and app data use internal memory.
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Yeah. but not at 5mb/day when I don't install anything.
I have also seen this. For example. I was up to 115 meg now I am at 100 meg with the same apps installed. I do use BT but I also know when I need to flush out the core files so that is not the issue. What I have noticed is when I use the browser or set up my email account is when I see the drop. I have gone to apps and deleted cache but have also learned when I do that on Mail, Browser and contacts I lose all my contacts, mail settings and bookmarks. I cannot believe those would eat up 10 meg of space. If I keep using these programs will my internal memory keep getting lower and lower. I also just started using peep yesterday, and that is when it dropped from about 105 to 100.
You can empty the browser cache by going into Settings in the Browser and hitting "Clear cache."
Go into Applications in the Settings menu. Go to all the apps you use, and hit "Clear data" Problem solved.
someone should make a app that does this automaticly if there isnt one yet.
I had this same problem. I went back to Best Buy and got a new replacement. The new phone even had the EVDO Rev A, instead of the Rev 0, and the new one has "with Google" on the back.
I have read that there were a large bad batch of these phones, and that there were issues with them.
I also read that there are also other issues involving SMS/Text and Bluetooth that may or not be related to this.
If you can, go to where you bought it and get a replacement, if at all possible.
Just my thoughts!
The phone I have does have Rev 1 and with google on the back so I don't think that is my issue. I also have no dust problem. I just see the memory drop daily and unless I go and clear cache daily it won't come back. This should not be nec IMO. There is not much left on the phone with nothing installed and seems to me using APP2SD we should not ever fall below 115-110. My wifes Moment has the same apps and she has about 220 left on hers
I have 1.84gb on the sdcard and 9.17gb internal and 191mb application space. No way am i even close to running out of space.
I have one of the earlier versions of Lag Fix installed, and im also rooted. can anyone help?
What makes you think you are "running out of space"? Are you getting an error message of some sort?
Yes i am. It wont let me install anyting and its not syncing gmail and im not getting text messeges.
Just FYI alot of times questions can be answered if you use the search button.
i just asnwered this question in the Q&A forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=747
And that was answered in a previous thread by me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752471&highlight=Database+Storage+Low&page=2
After deleting the bloated Contacts i haven't gotten the error (i was sure to export the list from Google prior to deleting it) Also removing the Facebook Apps ability to sync and only leaving stock brought back the Contacts facebook updates.
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thank you, however its not saying anything about the database, instead its saying "internal Phone storage is getting low". Not database.
Oskiee said:
thank you, however its not saying anything about the database, instead its saying "internal Phone storage is getting low". Not database.
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Can you use ADB or ShootMe to take screen shots of the error message then?
i dont have nither installed, so no. it wont let me install anything. It says "Internal phone storage is getting low".
Lol! I am getting the same message about space getting low. It says "Internal phone storage is getting low. "
I also have lag fix applied and guess how much app space I have remaining?
That's right, 191MB.
It is clearly referring to app space and not SD storage.
Not sure what to do.
sent from my Vibrant.
Don't some of the lag fixes cause this?
Don't use such a large container for the loopback filesystem. The phone will show that message when that partition drops to about 300mb free iirc. The versions that used 1gb seem to avoid this issue, it's when they tried to go to 1.5gb or so that it started up.
Or use a partition on the external sd and don't have the problem.
There's also the new voodoo lag fix that should be out soon, we hope. That will fix it properly and remove the busted rfs file system entirely.
This happen to me when installing a lag fix, back your files then enter.recovery delete all personal data after restore your apps but dont install the lag fix.
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[Q] Keep getting "Internal Storage Space Left" messages-is something being installed?
I noticed that after hitting a certain remaining storage space threshold in Galaxy/android phones, I get an "Internal Storage Space Left: xx GB" everytime I install or update something. That's ok, don't really care about that.
However, starting a few weeks ago, I keep getting this message periodically, multiple times a day, without me explicitly installing or updating anything. Has this happened to anyone else? Is this normal? Any way to find out what's getting installed or updated (if that is what's happening)? When this first started happening, I also got a decline/accept pop-up box asking me if I wanted Google to verify apps (which led me to believe something is being installed). I unchecked the "verify apps" checkbox under security settings so that pop-up no longer shows, but the "Internal Storage Space Left" message I get is still annoying. Thanks.
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I noticed that after hitting a certain remaining storage space threshold in Galaxy/android phones, I get an "Internal Storage Space Left: xx GB" everytime I install or update something. That's ok, don't really care about that.
However, starting a few weeks ago, I keep getting this message periodically, multiple times a day, without me explicitly installing or updating anything. Has this happened to anyone else? Is this normal? Any way to find out what's getting installed or updated (if that is what's happening)? When this first started happening, I also got a decline/accept pop-up box asking me if I wanted Google to verify apps (which led me to believe something is being installed). I unchecked the "verify apps" checkbox under security settings so that pop-up no longer shows, but the "Internal Storage Space Left" message I get is still annoying. Thanks.
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Your phone consistently creates cache in the /cache partition, or your apps are probably updating their content (Gmail, RSS Readers, Facebook, Vine, Instagram, etc).
You should check your data usage and see whether it was downloading anything behind your back.
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Your phone consistently creates cache in the /cache partition, or your apps are probably updating their content (Gmail, RSS Readers, Facebook, Vine, Instagram, etc).
You should check your data usage and see whether it was downloading anything behind your back.
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Thanks for your feedback, appreciate it. Do you know of any easy way (or better yet, apps that do this) to monitor in real time, what gets installed and/or written to the install area of your storage? This way, whenever I see the "Internal Storage Space Left" message, I can quickly investigate what was just installed/written to my phone? When I'm playing music or watching youtube, whenever this message comes up, the audio freezes up for a second and it's getting really annoying now, aside from the fact that I don't want unknown stuff getting installed on my phone anyway. Thanks!
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Thanks for your feedback, appreciate it. Do you know of any easy way (or better yet, apps that do this) to monitor in real time, what gets installed and/or written to the install area of your storage? This way, whenever I see the "Internal Storage Space Left" message, I can quickly investigate what was just installed/written to my phone? When I'm playing music or watching youtube, whenever this message comes up, the audio freezes up for a second and it's getting really annoying now, aside from the fact that I don't want unknown stuff getting installed on my phone anyway. Thanks!
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I'm not sure, but I use Clean Master or SD Maid and they do the job just fine when cleaning up files on your phone. Maybe you should try those instead of preventing anything else from being added, so that when things get added you won't get a prompt when your phone is already cleaned out anyways
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I'm not sure, but I use Clean Master or SD Maid and they do the job just fine when cleaning up files on your phone. Maybe you should try those instead of preventing anything else from being added, so that when things get added you won't get a prompt when your phone is already cleaned out anyways
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Thanks for your reply! Actually, found a simple solution, don't know why I didn't think of this before. As soon as it happened again, I noted the time on the phone clock, then I went into my "root explorer" app and sorted the folders by time. I drilled down into the most recently modified folders and found a file that was modified at the exact same time noted above. It was the samsung gear fit app (or something to that effect) - don't know why I had installed it as I don't own any of the samsung gear accesssories. I deleted the app and the auto-install/updates stopped happening.
OK to start things off this is going to be a long list of questions/issues and various impressions, some opinionated and some fact. I've had apple phones for years and appreciate both, I changed because my iphone couldn't do some things my note 3 can do such as open up 200+ MB pdfs with relative ease, but then again the samsung struggles to do simple things the iphone did fresh out of the box. This is not meant to be a discussion of which is better but it would help to know what I'm comparing it to and how I think simple things should work. I use a PC just FYI.
1.) Data Transfer of large files from various desktops to the Note 3 either through internal memory or external sd card.
My first issue is that I cannot move large files from my internal memory to my sd card. The sd card in question is a sandisk 128gb but have also tried to few others just to make sure it's not the card. If I download a large file on utorrent such as a 720p movie or better, I cannot move it from internal memory to sd card. I just won't do it. Not only will it refuse to move large files but any photos are sometime hit and miss, sometimes it moves them with no issue at all, most of the time the files stay in the parent folder and don't end up in the destination folder. I can move various files if I connect it to my desktop and drag and drop them onto the sd card but sometimes moving the file corrupts it where it cannot be played on the phone. I've also tried this with numerous computers with the same result. to move files on the phone i go to my files, select the directory and then select the file I want to move. I hold down on it to select it and then press move, it then shows the internal and external storage options, i select the sd card and the folder I want the file in and then press move here in the top right hand corner. If there is another way let me know.
Second issue is when dragging and dropping large music files directly to the sd card or internal memory from a pc. If a drag and drop a FLAC album it corrupts it about 50% of the time. I routinely go to play the album and get the message that it does not support the file type or something to that affect. I often just delete it and redo the process, most of the time that works. On MP3's, if I drag and drop an entire discography of an artist (say 8gb or so) it's corrupted 100% of the time. When I go to playback the albums they play at double speed. I have to go back and drop them one by one and sometimes (but rarely) that has the same issue.
2.) Audio Playback/Microphone/Headphone/Bluetooth Issues
Firstly, I thought that all 3.5mm headphone jacks were on a standard. I did not realize that the note did not come with headphones and that the headphones that I used with an apple device would not fully function on an android device. This seems like something so simple it shouldn't even be an issue. All of the headphones, earbuds, etc I have that have inline controls do not adjust the volume or skip tracks on my android device. You name it, like a half dozen brands. It just doesn't work...
When trying to use talk to text for a text message either with headphones with inline mic or with a Bluetooth headset it does not use the microphone on the accessory device, it uses the internal phone mic which is an issue for me. So instead of using the mic right next to my mouth I have to hold the phone up to my mouth in loud places. I don't know any way to change this...I couldn't find it in any settings.
3.) Lockscreen (I don't know how this is supposed to work, I looked it up and I'm assuming its something I'm doing.)
I want my lockscreen to be simple but I cannot seem to get the weather off of my lockscreen. It does not appear unless I swipe down and there it is. How do I remove it? If I open up the lockscreen editor by swiping from left to right its not there. I only have one lockscreen page so I don't know whats going on.
When I have notifications on my lock screen and click on them it puts a box around the lower part of my lock screen where you normally swipe as to say swipe here stupid to unlock. Is that the case or am I missing something else? It seems as though if my phone doesn't have a security lock on it and I press on my notification it should just open it. Or is it intentionally non-intuitive for some other reason?
4.) GLITCHES!!!!!!!! Various other issues
Routinely my music apps gets stuck on a page. Say if I'm listening to an album and try to back it up to my list of albums it just loads the same page over and over again. I have to hit my homebutton and open up the music app again from the icon and sometimes that causes it to crash. It does this on the stock Samsung music player and on play music. Normally my phone plays music 24/7 so it may be just how much I use it for that purpose.
Apps crash on a regular basis, at least a few times a day. I'd say I have an app crash maybe 3-5 times a day on average. Some more than others. Because of all the glitches I did a factory reset weeks ago to see if there was another issue. I've also tried uninstalling and re-installing all the apps that normally crash but that hasn't seemed to help. I don't believe apps used by millions on other android devices such as Bank of America (crashes literally every time I use it) or Pandora could be the problem.
Google integration is sketchy at best, It routinely doesn't delete e-mails off the google server when I delete them off my phone. It's really hit and miss. Sometimes it works, sometimes it will load the same e-mails dozens of times even though I've deleted it daily. The google+ photo backup is hit and miss and even updates over cellular even though its set to only update over wifi when plugged in. All of the sync settings seem appropriate for what I want it just doesn't work.
Text scaling under most situations is completely absurd. I've got 5.7" of screen and have to re-scale practically everything that loads so I can read it. This is especially and issue when reading forums which I'm on frequently. Is there a way to change this? If there isn't there definitely should be! Not a glitch but an issue.
All social media apps that load from a page (a wall, forum, feed, whetever) always reload when I click on something and go back forcing me to start over from the beginning. I've only had this issue on this phone, my previous iphones just take me back to where I was. Is there a way to change this annoying problem?
5.) The Photo Gallery
It just doesn't work. I don't know any other way to put it, its the second biggest failure on the phone. i wouldn't trust it with important anything! It routinely just looses photos, online account's don't update at all, s health photo that I've deleted dozens of times keeps showing up in my photos, all my album covers end up in my gallery and I have to manually go back and delete them all, photos end up corrupted and not able to view them whether on sd card or on phone, it goes on and on. Is there another application I can use? Can I make another app my default gallery app? Some online photos like picassa/google+ don't load correctly, it'll show the preview photo and when clicked on it'll show a completely different photo from that album. I would just delete it but can't delete online account photos from my phone gallery app and when I delete them online it doesn't update it on my gallery.
6.) Voicemail
I recieved a voicemail the first 10 minutes I had my phone and clicked on it in my notifications and it called my voicemail. I was confused at first, was i holding a 700 dollar phone or 90's Nokia? Seriously? And on top of that it didn't come with ATT visual voicemail out of the box, I had to download it. WTF! No I don't need voicemail on a phone I need 20 other google apps instead...seriously? On top of that att visual voicemail app is crap. I routinely miss voicemails because it not reliable enough to show all my voicemails in my notifications. Is that how all android devices are? I may be a little spoiled by the voicemail being on a tab in my phone app but it seems as though if there is an att specific model this should work better than it does...
7.) Text messaging
I don't use the stock mesaging app because it wouldn't reliably send a photo...that is all. I use textra now and it works better but still isn't what I would consider to be reliable...
8.) General Gripes about the phone app
The buttons are so large it looks like its designed for the seeing impaired.
Color scheme looks like I'm 4 and trying to push blocks into the appropriate holes...
I can't figure out how to change the color scheme on it, can you change it?
I hate the cartoonish figures for people that don't have photos.
Okay, it generally looks childish or like it was designed by Mattel. I need something far more professional looking.
On a positive note, speech and handwriting recognition is second to none, S Pen apps and S pen integration in general is very refined. It's extremely fast with very little lag in all situations. There are lots of positives so I'm not downing the phone at all but it just needs to fit my needs better. That's not everything but a good start. Thanks for your time and patience.
And to sum it all up, I think you should go back to i... :sly:
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Dejan Sathanas said:
And to sum it all up, I think you should go back to i... :sly:
Sent from my N9005
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So your note does all of this also?
Lythropus said:
So your note does all of this also?
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First - ur post is too big to even read.
You are in xda and there is ton of information here. If you search , u will realize that most of the issues have solution...
When moving from another OS its always difficult but stay and you will love it.
Let me rephrase, it's not an android problem that I'm aware of: is my phone ****ed up and in need of replacement our does every note 900a cnc2 do this stupid ****?
The new os doesn't seem to be an issue this is mainly a hardware issue unless you're saying all android phones corrupt photos straight out the box. Which I know that isn't the case.
Some of my gripes are android related but mostly sounds like a hardware issue.
Try moving the large file using "my files", 3rd party file manager cannot move file from internal to external sd (a limitation introduced in kitkat).
Also try copying your music collection using card reader.
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Try moving the large file using "my files", 3rd party file manager cannot move file from internal to external sd (a limitation introduced in kitkat).
Also try copying your music collection using card reader.
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I've only tried my files to move it on the phone, it will not move them.
I basically have to use a card reader to copy anything over a gig or so reliably. I can drag and drop it but that doesn't always work.
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My first issue is that I cannot move large files from my internal memory to my sd card.
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Really, and you did that just fine on the iPhone? :silly: That would be quite a full miracle given how (as far as I know) the iPhone never had a SD card :silly:
Read around - if you are on 4.4 there are some new security restrictions on writing to the external SD. If you are on 4.3 you are probably doing something wrong.
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Really, and you did that just fine on the iPhone? :silly: That would be quite a full miracle given how (as far as I know) the iPhone never had a SD card :silly:
Read around - if you are on 4.4 there are some new security restrictions on writing to the external SD. If you are on 4.3 you are probably doing something wrong.
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Of course I didn't, I.used third party software to drag and drop mp3's on internal storage of a jailbroken device. It worked 100% of the time.
But you're still missing the point. My files are being corrupted whether on the external sd card or the internal storage. There aren't any examples off this on my model phone on your forum...
As far as I know my files isn't a third party so it should have full access to read and write to my sd card per 4.4
That does explain why u torrent won't do it though.
Did u use your iTunes mp3 files? My girlfriend is also into that icrap and when she used my computer for music files I learned that you don't wanna use iTunes. Don't take this as a apple...uhm... disliker read about it if u don't believe it. Itunes messes with the music files and therefor I had to do my whole music storage from the scratch.
I think what @Dejan Sathanas was trying to say was: that if you are not ready to switch u will find strange issues that nobody else encounters and end up spamming the threats. For example: I haven't had any issue moving any files ever on any android device!
So long story short
1. Get the device u prefer (even if it is an apple)
2. Try some music files that didn't run through apple tech
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Did u use your iTunes mp3 files? My girlfriend is also into that icrap and when she used my computer for music files I learned that you don't wanna use iTunes. Don't take this as a apple...uhm... disliker read about it if u don't believe it. Itunes messes with the music files and therefor I had to do my whole music storage from the scratch.
I think what @Dejan Sathanas was trying to say was: that if you are not ready to switch u will find strange issues that nobody else encounters and end up spamming the threats. For example: I haven't had any issue moving any files ever on any android device!
So long story short
1. Get the device u prefer (even if it is an apple)
2. Try some music files that didn't run through apple tech
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I didn't use the ALAC files from my Apple device. I was under the impression they wouldn't play on here, just used mp3s and flacs. I tried to upload a pic of what the corrupt files look like on my phone but got an error that said could not complete this operation due to low memory. I'll figure it out when I get off work and upload them.
Took it to best buy\ATT, they sent me to the Samsung rep/dealer in store. He couldn't figure out what was going on, why it wouldn't move files, why some would corrupt, update Google anything, etc so they are sending me a new one.