Excessive heat from car charger - HD2 General

Been using my hd2 as a sat nav for a few days and noticed when it is plugged into the cigarette lighter socket the phone generates a lot of heat, almost too hot to touch. Anyone else had this problem? The charger is the official HTC one.

hey,
I had the same problem, albeit with a non-HTC USB charger.
It might have been the combination of being on charge, being heavily used (Screen always on with Co-Pilot and music and occasionally camcorder [scenery was great]) and driving through Monument Valley in 100 degrees plus. The sun through the screen will have something to do with it. Although it did it on 'normal' sunny days as well.
I noticed something was wrong when the battery stopped charging and the LED started flashing orange.
I don't have a car and this was in a hire car for only a few days, so I didn't get the chance to find out which or if all of the above caused the heating.
cheers
m.

tarkboffin said:
hey,
I had the same problem, albeit with a non-HTC USB charger.
It might have been the combination of being on charge, being heavily used (Screen always on with Co-Pilot and music and occasionally camcorder [scenery was great]) and driving through Monument Valley in 100 degrees plus. The sun through the screen will have something to do with it. Although it did it on 'normal' sunny days as well.
I noticed something was wrong when the battery stopped charging and the LED started flashing orange.
I don't have a car and this was in a hire car for only a few days, so I didn't get the chance to find out which or if all of the above caused the heating.
cheers
m.
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It is a combination of heavy GPS use, and car charger, and the sun shining on the phone, I moved my holder to right in front of an SC vent , has yet to get too hot ...

watcher64 said:
It is a combination of heavy GPS use, and car charger, and the sun shining on the phone, I moved my holder to right in front of an SC vent , has yet to get too hot ...
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Same solution here and it's working till now (1 month)

i think it happen to every hd2 with heay use when using gps and charging at the same time. i always turn on AC condition and let the cold air blows to my hd2.

It's normal for the phone to become hot when many hardware intense programs are running at once. The best thing you can do is stick it near your air con vent as mentioned by other posters.

Ok thanks, obvious thing to do Despite the heat, it still worked perfectly normal.

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Blinking amben light on phone

Thought I would ask this.
Lately, when my Hero is connected to a car charger, I would sometimes get a blinking amber light (it will coincide with a blinking green light, which I know is new mail or message notification). This usually happens when I'm streaming a radio station or using Pandera while using a bluetooth car adapter.
I have looked around for any documentation on this blinking amber light, but to no avail. When I've had a lack of power (for instance, from doing the same things using a USB cable connected to a computer), I would get a message on the phone saying there's insufficient power to run everything and that I need to plug the phone into an A/C outlet.
Thought maybe one of you may know what that is. Seems to stop when I disconnect the car charger, so I'm pretty sure it has something to do with that.
Thanks.
I too have experienced this behavior. From what I gather I think it is related to the battery over heating.
apc103 said:
I too have experienced this behavior. From what I gather I think it is related to the battery over heating.
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That's not good. I wonder what's causing the battery to overheat.
tkirton said:
That's not good. I wonder what's causing the battery to overheat.
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Not sure why its overheating, but it always happens when I an tethering over wifi and have the phone charging at the same time. It also happened to me once when using the navigation app and charging at the same time. The battery was hot to the touch.
apc103 said:
Not sure why its overheating, but it always happens when I an tethering over wifi and have the phone charging at the same time. It also happened to me once when using the navigation app and charging at the same time. The battery was hot to the touch.
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The battery itself isn't capable of handling the powerdrawn from the wifi tethering. I noticed that it stopped doing this when I got the 1800mah batter from mugen.
runsoverfrogs said:
The battery itself isn't capable of handling the powerdrawn from the wifi tethering. I noticed that it stopped doing this when I got the 1800mah batter from mugen.
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I have the 3600mah from Seidio and it does it. I did have this issue with my stock battery as well.
It's not that the battery can't handle the power draw, because it can. The heat is coming from the CPU and antennas which are working serious overdrive when WiFi tethering.
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It's not that the battery can't handle the power draw, because it can. The heat is coming from the CPU and antennas which are working serious overdrive when WiFi tethering.
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Oh...I'm not doing wifi tethering, but I am doing bluetooth and internet streaming. That does make sense, still.
Anyway to remedy this or do I just have to basically deal with it?
It means some sort of battery problem. My girlfriend dropped her phone in a cup of coffee and it flashed amber-green-amber-green before I told her to pull the battery so it didn't fry.
HeroMeng said:
It means some sort of battery problem. My girlfriend dropped her phone in a cup of coffee and it flashed amber-green-amber-green before I told her to pull the battery so it didn't fry.
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Well, I didn't drop the phone nor the battery in anything. And it's strange that I've seen this issue on two different batteries (the original stock battery and now this one). And it only seems to be happening with the car charger.
I'm going to put another car charger in the car and see if that helps.
HeroMeng said:
It means some sort of battery problem. My girlfriend dropped her phone in a cup of coffee and it flashed amber-green-amber-green before I told her to pull the battery so it didn't fry.
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did the phone work after that?
totally something my girlfriend would do i'm just waiting
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did the phone work after that?
totally something my girlfriend would do i'm just waiting
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Yeah, my girlfriend already dropped hers in diet pepsi. Still works though.
And the same day, her sister dropped her phone in diet coke.
abcdfv said:
Yeah, my girlfriend already dropped hers in diet pepsi. Still works though.
And the same day, her sister dropped her phone in diet coke.
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my girlfriend SLAMMED some vice grips down on the screen. like from a foot above it, yesterday. what she was doing with vice grips i will never know.
no scratches, nothing. i'd like to see what these things are capable of.
i treat mine like a premature infant.
thedudejdog said:
my girlfriend SLAMMED some vice grips down on the screen. like from a foot above it, yesterday. what she was doing with vice grips i will never know.
no scratches, nothing. i'd like to see what these things are capable of.
i treat mine like a premature infant.
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I accidentally dropped mine about four feet straight down onto a concrete driveway. It landed face down, with the screen hitting directly onto the driveway. Have one very tiny chip in the glass (about the size of a grain of sand), but the phone still works. No cracks or other scratches.
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Gps drain faster than can charge?

Yesterday I left my house with around 75% battery left to drive 40 minutes or so using the Google Nav app. I also had it charging using the included data cable and a usb conversion plugin.
I was also listening to Pandora as it was navigating with the screen on low brightness. However, when I got to my destination, the battery was at around 45%. I know the converter piece isn't broke as my ipod charges fairly quickly via usb when plugged into that same piece.
Is the data cable that's included really that bad at providing enough power to run the phone, as well as a mild charging?
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Car vs Plug
Your car charger may be outputting at .5 Amp rather than 1 Amp; models exist for both. I do not pretend to know if .5 puts out more or less than GPS+Pandora; but your mileage may vary if you changed over to a 1.
I had a very similar issue this weekend. My problem was with overheating.
I left with my battery at about 60%, setup the GPS for travel. After about 20 minutes i noticed the charging light start flashing orange and green, and i noticed my battery was draining pretty quickly. The end result was that the battery was over heating (very hot to touch) and wouldn't charge because it was too hot, i had to remove the phone from the dock and put it in front of the air conditioner before it would continue to charge. This resulted in me holding the phone in front of the AC for about 2 hours because it could only last about 10-20 minutes before it would over heat again.
The dock is basically useless because the phone over heats, i have no idea if this would work differently if you start at 100%, but with anything lower it definitely fights to charge the battery and power GPS usage causing over heating.
Incase it matters i am using the Motorola P513 Car Charger (http://j.mp/cuOqWH) and the official car dock for the Incredible from Verizon.
That's definitely interesting. I wonder why they released something with that obvious of a fault. Major heat can't be good on the life of the battery.
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I had problem with charging while using GPS and listening to Slacker but that was with this cheap charger I had. Once I used a higher quality charger (dont remember amps) it was able to charge and use GPS and Slacker at the same time no problems. It gets to about 115 degrees though. Battery says 140 is too hot so I figure its ok. If it fries....sending back under warranty.
It's definitely important to charge at 1 amp and not .5 or .75. I fried my battery to the point where it wouldn't hold a charge. Its worth the money for the right charger.
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It's definitely important to charge at 1 amp and not .5 or .75. I fried my battery to the point where it wouldn't hold a charge. Its worth the money for the right charger.
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Thanks for the heads up
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When you guys have the phone in the dock with the gps on are you leaving the screen on as well? If so that could be a big killer of the battery expecially if you have your brightness set way up.
I just got back from a long road trip (22 hours each way) and noticed the phone would get warm if i had the screen on so I could see the map but if I shut the screen off it would stay pretty cool while charging. It will still talk and let you know when you need to turn even if your screen is off. Maybe something for you to try?
Just throwing this out there because of the overheating issues but Proclip will be offering the Incredible package soon. Not only can it be positioned right in front of the A/C but it will come with a charging cable that can be ran to a 12v(?) source cable such as an after market stereo's power cable.
Sounds like, for me, I will be able to get a solid stable charge and have it in front of the A/C for cooling if I get that problem.
Again, just throwing out what I'm planning. I emailed proclip and they said early June for a release date!
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It's definitely important to charge at 1 amp and not .5 or .75. I fried my battery to the point where it wouldn't hold a charge. Its worth the money for the right charger.
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Agreed. 9 times out of 10 when using a charger not meant for your device specifically, the charger has the wrong voltage and/or amperage or it doesn't communicate that the battery is full properly.
The wrong charger will either not work at all right away (best case), kill the battery slowly by overcharging it, or cause some immediate overheating issues through overcharging or improper charging (worst case).
tl;dr: buy your chargers from reputable places, specifically for your device! It's worth it!
I am still holding out hope that they will release the same type of car dock that nexus one has. That thing was almost perfect as far as car docks go. At least imo.
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I drove from Mississippi to Florida and never had an issue. In fact, I listened to Pandora without a single interruption the entire way. Thats just awesome that Verizon's network had a data connection through rural parts of Mississippi and Alabama. Most of my trip was off the interstate.
FYI, I was using the rocket fish charger from Best Buy. It didn't have a proper dock, so my phone set in a cup holder. It never over heated but was slightly warm to the touch.
gummehbear said:
I had a very similar issue this weekend. My problem was with overheating.
I left with my battery at about 60%, setup the GPS for travel. After about 20 minutes i noticed the charging light start flashing orange and green, and i noticed my battery was draining pretty quickly. The end result was that the battery was over heating (very hot to touch) and wouldn't charge because it was too hot, i had to remove the phone from the dock and put it in front of the air conditioner before it would continue to charge. This resulted in me holding the phone in front of the AC for about 2 hours because it could only last about 10-20 minutes before it would over heat again.
The dock is basically useless because the phone over heats, i have no idea if this would work differently if you start at 100%, but with anything lower it definitely fights to charge the battery and power GPS usage causing over heating.
Incase it matters i am using the Motorola P513 Car Charger (http://j.mp/cuOqWH) and the official car dock for the Incredible from Verizon.
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gummehbear, I have the same car charger and same problem as you. I tried looking online to see how many amps that charger puts out but I can't tell. So our phone needs a one amp charger?
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gummehbear, I have the same car charger and same problem as you. I tried looking online to see how many amps that charger puts out but I can't tell. So our phone needs a one amp charger?
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sounds like what ever amperage it is, isn't enough. I have a verizon car charger in one car and one I bought at Radio Shack in the other and they both charge while phone is in use fine
As much as i would like to say its just the charger, i do believe it has something to do with the device trying to charge itself.
Yesterday I used the same setup as i did when i had the overheating issue, but this time i didnt have an issue. The difference was that the phone was at about 94% compared to the previous when it was at about 65%.
Yesterday the phone charged up to 100% before the overheating could become a problem.
I will continue to analyse it the more i use it, i am trying to figure out exactly what the factors are. So far from my experience i believe that if your device is charged up enough, you won't encounter this problem. It seems to be the charging event in conjunction with the GPS drain causing the battery to overheat.
I had the same issues on a trip to the Bay Area, up Highway 1 yesterday. The phone actually came up with a warning message that the charger I was using wasn't able to supply an adequate charge + power for GPS.
I purchased the Official car charger directly from Verizon and I have come across this issue. So the problem is within the phone, not the charger.
Sunlight: heat.
Using the device: Heat
Charging the device: heat
Is it hard to understand why its overheating?

Charging issue - blinking LEDs

Yesterday, I was driving home and had my EVO plugged in to charge and was listening to streaming radio. All of a sudden I noticed my EVO was blinking, alternating from green to orange. It wasn't showing the charging icon either. The phone was pretty hot too.
I unplugged it and plugged it back in and it started to blink again with no charging icon.
Anyone else experience that?
Everything I've read about that, has indicated that it's an overheating issue. Possibly because you were charging and running the radio at the same time.
Experienced that on an OC'd Hero a few times, it means overheated. Unplug it and/or stop streaming for a while to let it cool off. Also taking the battery cover off and maybe even the battery out the get air circulation in there isn't a bad idea. Overheated batteries shorten their lives, but I believe that have the get very overheated and this is a protection against that, hence why the charging cut out.
Thanks. That makes perfect sense!
Jye75 said:
Everything I've read about that, has indicated that it's an overheating issue. Possibly because you were charging and running the radio at the same time.
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This happens to me all the time as I have my Evo mounted up on the windshield ala GPS style in sunny So. Cal... I have a secondary albeit less convenient mount in front of the ACTION duct for such occasions that it overheats... please note.... THIS IS REAL BAD FOR THE BATTERY letting it get overheated to begin with so either start cooling beforehand or expect a lesser performing battery.
Did you have a case on it when this happened? Or did you have it mounted on the windshield as the above poster? Just curious...
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This happens to me all the time as I have my Evo mounted up on the windshield ala GPS style in sunny So. Cal...
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That's exactly how I have mine mounted. I noticed today my battery life has been awful....
Impulses said:
Did you have a case on it when this happened? Or did you have it mounted on the windshield as the above poster? Just curious...
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Yeah, I have the Seidio Innocase on it and it was mounted on my windshield. Also, I live in AZ and it was about 100 degrees yesterday, LOL.
Heh, makes sense... The case might actually help to an extent (keeps direct sunlight away) but having it on the windshield probably doesn't... I'm considering a car mount but my windshield is super sloped ('07 2-dr Civic), not sure it'd be comfortable. It gets pretty hot here in PR too, tho not quite as hot as AZ...

touch response when charging

anybody else have any issue with the screen not being responsive when charging? i was charging up the phone today and when it got to full or close to full i noticed that it didnt respond to every touch and it was very slow when it did respond...very weird...and im starting to think that the screen is not glass which actually bothers me
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anybody else have any issue with the screen not being responsive when charging? i was charging up the phone today and when it got to full or close to full i noticed that it didnt respond to every touch and it was very slow when it did respond...very weird...and im starting to think that the screen is not glass which actually bothers me
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The touchscreen is glass. Period.
Now that that's aside, how would being glass or plastic have any relation at all to the problem you are experiencing?
no relation, just wasnt sure if it was glass or not so i threw it in there lol just noticed i have a small bubble under the glass too ahhh
Could be the charger. Sometimes the diodes go bad and allow ac voltage to leak through. This has made my g1 screen act very strange when connected to a specific charger.
also note the screen is only touch with it sense heat so cold fingers will cause this problem also
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anybody else have any issue with the screen not being responsive when charging? i was charging up the phone today and when it got to full or close to full i noticed that it didnt respond to every touch and it was very slow when it did respond...very weird...and im starting to think that the screen is not glass which actually bothers me
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Yes I have it happen also at times, not always. With AC Charger and USB charging. I have noticied that if use a task killer before putting to charge I am ok.
Innisdb, are you using the stock t-mo wall charger, or a different one/car charger?
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Yes I have it happen also at times, not always. With AC Charger and USB charging. I have noticied that if use a task killer before putting to charge I am ok.
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Do you mean charging via usb from a computer? Was the computer pluged in to ac? The thing of it is that all of the rectifiers/transformers are made out of really cheap parts. Diodes can and do leak you might never knoww until you plug in something sensitive enough to notice (capacitive touchscreen). Most high end electronics have capacitors to soak this stuff up, but I'm not sure phones have enough space to add capacitors. In a pc the motherboard has caps on it but power supply doesn't .
Also of note is that the battery can soak this stuff up too but as batt voltage comes closer to charging voltage ( like when nearing full charge) this ability deminishes. Its bad for the life of the batt and phone if this issue is a supply voltage fluctuation problem btw.

Does anyone else phone get really hot when on the wireless charging orb

Started to use the orb. Noticed two issues.
1. phone doesn't charge full when on the orb. i had my old nexus 4 exchanged because of gps issue, but the new one charge even less than the old one overnight, which sucks.
2. phone get's really hot when on the wireless orb. i did not notice the old phone getting this hot on the orb.
does anyone else have these issues? Thanks
by nature, all wireless charging creates heat, mine gets pretty warm, but nowhere near what would cause damage. are you making sure the orb is centered on the bottom half of the phone? mine seems to work better doing that vs having it in the exact middle of the phone
Mine only gets warm when charging from a low battery AND having the screen on at the same time. Otherwise its not noticeably warm.

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