Thought I would ask this.
Lately, when my Hero is connected to a car charger, I would sometimes get a blinking amber light (it will coincide with a blinking green light, which I know is new mail or message notification). This usually happens when I'm streaming a radio station or using Pandera while using a bluetooth car adapter.
I have looked around for any documentation on this blinking amber light, but to no avail. When I've had a lack of power (for instance, from doing the same things using a USB cable connected to a computer), I would get a message on the phone saying there's insufficient power to run everything and that I need to plug the phone into an A/C outlet.
Thought maybe one of you may know what that is. Seems to stop when I disconnect the car charger, so I'm pretty sure it has something to do with that.
Thanks.
I too have experienced this behavior. From what I gather I think it is related to the battery over heating.
apc103 said:
I too have experienced this behavior. From what I gather I think it is related to the battery over heating.
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That's not good. I wonder what's causing the battery to overheat.
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That's not good. I wonder what's causing the battery to overheat.
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Not sure why its overheating, but it always happens when I an tethering over wifi and have the phone charging at the same time. It also happened to me once when using the navigation app and charging at the same time. The battery was hot to the touch.
apc103 said:
Not sure why its overheating, but it always happens when I an tethering over wifi and have the phone charging at the same time. It also happened to me once when using the navigation app and charging at the same time. The battery was hot to the touch.
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The battery itself isn't capable of handling the powerdrawn from the wifi tethering. I noticed that it stopped doing this when I got the 1800mah batter from mugen.
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The battery itself isn't capable of handling the powerdrawn from the wifi tethering. I noticed that it stopped doing this when I got the 1800mah batter from mugen.
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I have the 3600mah from Seidio and it does it. I did have this issue with my stock battery as well.
It's not that the battery can't handle the power draw, because it can. The heat is coming from the CPU and antennas which are working serious overdrive when WiFi tethering.
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It's not that the battery can't handle the power draw, because it can. The heat is coming from the CPU and antennas which are working serious overdrive when WiFi tethering.
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Oh...I'm not doing wifi tethering, but I am doing bluetooth and internet streaming. That does make sense, still.
Anyway to remedy this or do I just have to basically deal with it?
It means some sort of battery problem. My girlfriend dropped her phone in a cup of coffee and it flashed amber-green-amber-green before I told her to pull the battery so it didn't fry.
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It means some sort of battery problem. My girlfriend dropped her phone in a cup of coffee and it flashed amber-green-amber-green before I told her to pull the battery so it didn't fry.
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Well, I didn't drop the phone nor the battery in anything. And it's strange that I've seen this issue on two different batteries (the original stock battery and now this one). And it only seems to be happening with the car charger.
I'm going to put another car charger in the car and see if that helps.
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It means some sort of battery problem. My girlfriend dropped her phone in a cup of coffee and it flashed amber-green-amber-green before I told her to pull the battery so it didn't fry.
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did the phone work after that?
totally something my girlfriend would do i'm just waiting
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did the phone work after that?
totally something my girlfriend would do i'm just waiting
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Yeah, my girlfriend already dropped hers in diet pepsi. Still works though.
And the same day, her sister dropped her phone in diet coke.
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Yeah, my girlfriend already dropped hers in diet pepsi. Still works though.
And the same day, her sister dropped her phone in diet coke.
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my girlfriend SLAMMED some vice grips down on the screen. like from a foot above it, yesterday. what she was doing with vice grips i will never know.
no scratches, nothing. i'd like to see what these things are capable of.
i treat mine like a premature infant.
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my girlfriend SLAMMED some vice grips down on the screen. like from a foot above it, yesterday. what she was doing with vice grips i will never know.
no scratches, nothing. i'd like to see what these things are capable of.
i treat mine like a premature infant.
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I accidentally dropped mine about four feet straight down onto a concrete driveway. It landed face down, with the screen hitting directly onto the driveway. Have one very tiny chip in the glass (about the size of a grain of sand), but the phone still works. No cracks or other scratches.
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hey guys i have an htc hero cdma of course i think its a refurb from sprint, anyways i just got it other one crapped out, i rooted it and flashed it to run the freshrom 2.0d works amazing, but i noticed it gets really hot when its charging and last night it had a blinking orange and the battery icon was flashing so
is it a problem with the phone? should i change the radio? battery? thanks!
first of all, i'd like to say that your post is kinda confusing.
but with your question, are you tethering?
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hey guys i have an htc hero cdma of course i think its a refurb from sprint, anyways i just got it other one crapped out, i rooted it and flashed it to run the freshrom 2.0d works amazing, but i noticed it gets really hot when its charging and last night it had a blinking orange and the battery icon was flashing so
is it a problem with the phone? should i change the radio? battery? thanks!
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mine got hot for awhile after i first rooted it, but i stuck it in the freezer for awhile and been fine since.
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mine got hot for awhile after i first rooted it, but i stuck it in the freezer for awhile and been fine since.
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you put your phone or the battery in the freezer?
OP: sounds like a bad battery man, id buy a replacement or look into the 2000mAh extended one.
yea im hoping its just the battery i switched it with my brothers tp2 battery and changed the charger too, hopefully well see something, any other suggestions?
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i noticed it gets really hot when its charging and last night it had a blinking orange and the battery icon was flashing so
is it a problem with the phone? should i change the radio? battery? thanks!
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Are you using it while charging as you mentioned? If so is the screen set to full brightness?
Have you checked your uptime vs. awake time? it should be awake 15% at max...menu>settings>about_phone>battery
Do you live in an area of fringe reception?
Are you using any high power draw apps? e.g. something is using wifi or searching for gps indoors?
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yea im hoping its just the battery i switched it with my brothers tp2 battery and changed the charger too, hopefully well see something, any other suggestions?
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yeah i forgot the tp2 battery fits the hero too.
The other day while at was at work my phone started getting hot. I pulled it out and was like "What the Hell." It said I was roaming. I was standing outside at a location I'm always at. Turned it off and turned it back on and it fixed it. Could be a possibility.
Hot Hero
Mine was also getting like that. I thought it was the battery because while charging it would be very hot and would not go above 19 percent charge. I took it into Sprint Repair and they checked the battery and said it was "fine". She told me that the Hero was Known for having "low battery" issues. LOL, I told her that this was not the Low Battery issues they were speaking of. Anyways, came home and found my usb chord for charging had a knick in it, so switched it out and been pretty good since.
Long Story, eh? I guess I wanted to say, check the charger for any damage.
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Mine was also getting like that. I thought it was the battery because while charging it would be very hot and would not go above 19 percent charge. I took it into Sprint Repair and they checked the battery and said it was "fine". She told me that the Hero was Known for having "low battery" issues. LOL, I told her that this was not the Low Battery issues they were speaking of. Anyways, came home and found my usb chord for charging had a knick in it, so switched it out and been pretty good since.
Long Story, eh? I guess I wanted to say, check the charger for any damage.
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most htc phones are famous for having crap battery life. they cram more & more higher specs in the phones and give us small batteries. thank god for ebay!
yea so i changed chargers with the tp2 also, hmm, yea the phone gets hot while its off and charging, reception in this area is pretty good and its not looking for gps cuz when i was using the phone the only thing i was doing was talking which does make it hot but yea nothing else like no wifi or anything, the tp2 gets hot when theres like tethering or when someone is talking on it but its pretty cool otherwise and that screen is huge!
Yesterday, I was driving home and had my EVO plugged in to charge and was listening to streaming radio. All of a sudden I noticed my EVO was blinking, alternating from green to orange. It wasn't showing the charging icon either. The phone was pretty hot too.
I unplugged it and plugged it back in and it started to blink again with no charging icon.
Anyone else experience that?
Everything I've read about that, has indicated that it's an overheating issue. Possibly because you were charging and running the radio at the same time.
Experienced that on an OC'd Hero a few times, it means overheated. Unplug it and/or stop streaming for a while to let it cool off. Also taking the battery cover off and maybe even the battery out the get air circulation in there isn't a bad idea. Overheated batteries shorten their lives, but I believe that have the get very overheated and this is a protection against that, hence why the charging cut out.
Thanks. That makes perfect sense!
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Everything I've read about that, has indicated that it's an overheating issue. Possibly because you were charging and running the radio at the same time.
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This happens to me all the time as I have my Evo mounted up on the windshield ala GPS style in sunny So. Cal... I have a secondary albeit less convenient mount in front of the ACTION duct for such occasions that it overheats... please note.... THIS IS REAL BAD FOR THE BATTERY letting it get overheated to begin with so either start cooling beforehand or expect a lesser performing battery.
Did you have a case on it when this happened? Or did you have it mounted on the windshield as the above poster? Just curious...
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This happens to me all the time as I have my Evo mounted up on the windshield ala GPS style in sunny So. Cal...
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That's exactly how I have mine mounted. I noticed today my battery life has been awful....
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Did you have a case on it when this happened? Or did you have it mounted on the windshield as the above poster? Just curious...
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Yeah, I have the Seidio Innocase on it and it was mounted on my windshield. Also, I live in AZ and it was about 100 degrees yesterday, LOL.
Heh, makes sense... The case might actually help to an extent (keeps direct sunlight away) but having it on the windshield probably doesn't... I'm considering a car mount but my windshield is super sloped ('07 2-dr Civic), not sure it'd be comfortable. It gets pretty hot here in PR too, tho not quite as hot as AZ...
So my main complaint about the nexus 1 was the crazy digitizer. I am sitting here playing pocket legends and all of a sudden my screen starts going crazy just like on the nexus 1. I ran screen test toolkit and on the trace test i got sharp vertical lines that shot out from where my finger was tracing. I did have the phone plugged in at the time and since unplugging it seems to have gone away but the is reason enough to concern. Anyone else had this issue? May just take my phone back and get a replacement just in case.
Update: as much as I feel like a bonehead for admitting this I found the culprit. Apparently the charger i was using is not playing nice with the nexus s. It is the same charger i use for my nexus 1 an apparently it has a different power output that the nexus s doesn't like very much. Hope my mistake will help others.
I tried charging over USB at a friend's house on his dinosaur iMac, the screen started acting completely screwy as well.
this is really an intresting behavior. i didnt know a scren could do such a thing in different charger.. . live and learn
yea, why does this do this? I wonder can it be fixed with software
Why would you even try to charge it with something else since a wall charger came with it.
Because you can charge an Android phone via USB cable?
That's I think an official feature of Android.
And it MUST WORK WELL!
If not, then it is a bug in the software or hardware
I read a lot about this reports, anyone post into Google official forum?
tominater12 said:
Why would you even try to charge it with something else since a wall charger came with it.
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it happens when I charge on both
Darrien13 said:
it happens when I charge on both
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i think you need to check other phones. as far as i know charging from usb less amp than the wall. so it shouldnt show any weird calibration issues or flicker. double check man
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i think you need to check other phones. as far as i know charging from usb less amp than the wall. so it shouldnt show any weird calibration issues or flicker. double check man
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Yes, max amp from USB is 0.5A. Typical output for smartphone chargers is 1A. But this shouldnt be a problem, and also less amp means longer batterylife on the long run cause it doesnt stresses battery as much.
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I think it's because the touchscreen on the NS seems to be more sensitive than most phones (I can get it to register input without even touching the screen sometimes) that it gets disrupted by other sources of electrical conductivity... such as the charger. Mine is ok, never really tried with the charger plugged in though. I ran multitouch visible test and I was satisfied with the tracking, it's the same if not better than the Vibrant's, which can handle 5 simultaneous inputs.
Yup. Left phone on charger overnight - woke up and the camera was flashing every 2 seconds. That's all it will do. Whether it's hooked up, unhooked. As long as the battery's in that's what it does. No rom changes in over 2 weeks. No damage of any sort.... no recovery or anything
Well you can probably do a warranty exchange.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
I had something similar with my nexus one. Except it wasnt the camera but the trackball... changing kernels around seem to help a bit but eventually i took it for water damage. Take the battery out and let it dry off for a day or two. You can also try to pry it open and have your hand at any corrosion if you find any. However i wouldnt recommend that unless you know what yer doing.
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I had something similar with my nexus one. Except it wasnt the camera but the trackball... changing kernels around seem to help a bit but eventually i took it for water damage. Take the battery out and let it dry off for a day or two. You can also try to pry it open and have your hand at any corrosion if you find any. However i wouldnt recommend that unless you know what yer doing.
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He said it was left on the charger, not fell in water.
I'd crap my pants if this happened to me.
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ac7brier said:
He said it was left on the charger, not fell in water.
I'd crap my pants if this happened to me.
CM7 Drugged
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I realize that but like i said i had the same experience and my phone didnt get noticably wet at any time could have been a single drop of water and corrosion takes a while to build up.
Still...
Im wondering if you used your original charger when this happend because i can personally say ive seen my atrix behaving strange when connected to some cheap random charger (touch screen not working for example). Didnt believe it could cause permenant damage though.
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I realize that but like i said i had the same experience and my phone didnt get noticably wet at any time could have been a single drop of water and corrosion takes a while to build up.
Still...
Im wondering if you used your original charger when this happend because i can personally say ive seen my atrix behaving strange when connected to some cheap random charger (touch screen not working for example). Didnt believe it could cause permenant damage though.
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It was hooked up with a Blackberry charger, actually.
Still acts the same.
Check the charger to see if its power ratings are different than your otiginal one.
Also... does the device boot up in any way or is the screen simply black and the flash flickering no matter what?
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Check the charger to see if its power ratings are different than your otiginal one.
Also... does the device boot up in any way or is the screen simply black and the flash flickering no matter what?
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Looking at it today, I noticed that the charger port (or inlet if you will) is very structurally loose. The voltage on the blackberry charger is about 3/5 that of the stock Atrix charger, if memory serves me - somebody at work switched out the chargers the day after I got the phone. It took a good 6 hours to charge...
ATT said that it would be full cost of phone, because it's personal damage.
I'm looking into the Mi-One.
EDIT: No, the screen will not even begin to come on. Camera flashing is the only indicator of any power. Used an external battery charger, and two different batteries.
The MI-One looks sweet!!!!
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Looking at it today, I noticed that the charger port (or inlet if you will) is very structurally loose. The voltage on the blackberry charger is about 3/5 that of the stock Atrix charger, if memory serves me - somebody at work switched out the chargers the day after I got the phone. It took a good 6 hours to charge...
ATT said that it would be full cost of phone, because it's personal damage.
I'm looking into the Mi-One.
EDIT: No, the screen will not even begin to come on. Camera flashing is the only indicator of any power. Used an external battery charger, and two different batteries.
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Moto will probably either fix it or send you another phone. I know people who bricked from trying to downgrade and they got another phone. I'm sure you could too. I would try that before you buy another phone.
ETA: Now that I think about it not being able to put the rom back to stock would probably be an issue if they can get it to turn on but if they can't they might replace it.
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Looking at it today, I noticed that the charger port (or inlet if you will) is very structurally loose. The voltage on the blackberry charger is about 3/5 that of the stock Atrix charger, if memory serves me - somebody at work switched out the chargers the day after I got the phone. It took a good 6 hours to charge...
ATT said that it would be full cost of phone, because it's personal damage.
I'm looking into the Mi-One.
EDIT: No, the screen will not even begin to come on. Camera flashing is the only indicator of any power. Used an external battery charger, and two different batteries.
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I also think you should bring it up with motorola. Waking up to find your phone bricked is hardly what id call personal damage. You also shouldn't bring up the charger issue. And as for the usb port i'd say it would take too much effort to discern the connection with that and the phone acting as it is, and im sure they would rather just send a replacement unit.
A usb port malfunctioning is hardly an account for personal damage. The usual case is they simply stop working, but definitely not brick your entire phone.
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Hey all at xda,
Recently I purchased, second hand, a Nexus 4. But I have been having massive issues with the battery. Firstly it seems to be completely inaccurate in reading the battery levels. It jumps all over the place, and reports back RIDICULOUS charging speeds. (10 minutes and the phone went form 7% to 95% :S).
The other problem that I have been having aside from those strange sporadic readings is the fact that the phone does not work at all when it's not plugged in. It lasts for 3 or 4 seconds after I unplug it, and then turns off, and appears to bootloop when I attempt to start it back up again, even when I plug it back in. I CAN get into the bootloader and my TWRP recovery perfectly fine and with no issues. TWRP often reports a 25% battery drop despite the fact that I JUST removed its charger.
It still bootloops when I plug the charger back in and let it charge for some time. I actually have to go into recovery and execute a factory reset to be able to get back into the ROM.
Should I try different ROMs?
Originally I put on cyanogenmod 11 kitkat. While I was running through the initial phone setup was the first time I encountered this unplugged issue. Due to this, and the bootloop I thought I had softbricked the phone, and so I reflashed from CWM to TWRP and put on a different ROM.
I upgraded to kitkat 4.4.4 this ROM to be exact. There seemed to be no issue it runs PERFECTLY when plugged in. But still doesn't last when not plugged in, and begins reporting strange battery percentages, eventually turning off completely.
When attempting to restart the phone I get the Google image, with the unlocked padlock at the bottom, and then it goes straight to the battery image with the electricity symbol in the middle. The same occurs when starting from the bootloader. Occasionally the same occurs when attempting to get into twrp but not always.
Is this simply a battery issue, and will replacing the battery solve the issue, or are there larger problems at steak here? Did I get ripped right off by the seller. (Doesn't seem like it, seller told me to contact him if there were any issues and he would do his best to help / solve the problem for me.)
Thanks guys,
Pensai
I would try out some roms and kernels and see what happens. And if nothing helps than contact your retailer and ask for him
Sounds like the battery is bad to me.
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CCody said:
I would try out some roms and kernels and see what happens. And if nothing helps than contact your retailer and ask for him
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I'll try some more rom's and see if the issue persists. Unfortunately contacting my retailer won't help as this is a second hand purchase from an individual, rather than a store/company. (got a sick deal btw 180 for it ).
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Sounds like the battery is bad to me.
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I'm hoping this is purely the issue, since it's and easy fix, I'll try the above suggestion when I get home from work. (or before hehe) If new roms and kernals don't fix the issue I suppose I'll order a new battery and hope for the best. They're pretty cheap anyway.
Another thing that may be worth mentioning, is that USB charging seems to be useless in giving the battery any juice. It somehow is actually capable of draining quicker than it chargers if left on plugged in. Even turned completely off and just plugged in to charge yields no results. It must be plugged into the wall.
Just a bit of an update, I got home from work and noticed that the screen had begun to separate from the chassis. I suspected that perhaps the battery was bloated, given the issues I have been having. I am now 99% sure it is the battery.
When I took the phone apart, the battery was indeed bloating and and even burst open on the bottom, exposing these 'layers' along with some casing ruptures on the bottom of the battery as well.
I have ordered a new battery and it has shipped. Hopefully a new battery is the nail in the coffin for this issue.
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Just a bit of an update, I got home from work and noticed that the screen had begun to separate from the chassis. I suspected that perhaps the battery was bloated, given the issues I have been having. I am now 99% sure it is the battery.
When I took the phone apart, the battery was indeed bloating and and even burst open on the bottom, exposing these 'layers' along with some casing ruptures on the bottom of the battery as well.
I have ordered a new battery and it has shipped. Hopefully a new battery is the nail in the coffin for this issue.
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Wow that sounds scary lol. Imagine if it was a Li-Ion, they are more dangerous than Li-Po
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Wow that sounds scary lol. Imagine if it was a Li-Ion, they are more dangerous than Li-Po
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I don't know much about battery tech, but the front of the battery says Li-Ion, should I concerned since I've handled it with my bare hands?
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I don't know much about battery tech, but the front of the battery says Li-Ion, should I concerned since I've handled it with my bare hands?
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Just wash your hands. It's not going to kill you handling the battery.
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I don't know much about battery tech, but the front of the battery says Li-Ion, should I concerned since I've handled it with my bare hands?
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It still is a Li-Po battery. Li-Po and Li-Ion both are types of Lithium-Ion batteries, the difference is that their structure is different
Li-Po is safer and less hazardous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkP-b1ADvbk
Here is a funny Li-Ion explosion video
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Just wash your hands. It's not going to kill you handling the battery.
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It still is a Li-Po battery. Li-Po and Li-Ion both are types of Lithium-Ion batteries, the difference is that their structure is different
Li-Po is safer and less hazardous
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Here is a funny Li-Ion explosion video
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Thank you for the info, It makes sense now with the 'polymer' after the Li-Ion. Also, that video was quite amusing to say the least. :laugh: