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Anyone Using TD2 on AT&T

I was considering going with an imported unlocked TD2 on AT&T and wondered how many are currently doing so and what your experience has been, I realize that I would not get 3G data. How is the phone on AT&T, on just Edge? Any issues?
Also did you have any problem keeping whatever current data plan you have when switching your sim card into the new TD2 or did you somehow get switched to the $30 plan "automatically"?

My friend got a EU TD2 recently, and had me help him set it up. Works fine on edge, no other general issues. He already had a data plan, but it shouldn't add one if you don't already have one. Kinda wish I woulda done the same as him, because I always turn off 3G on my pure to save battery, and its incredibly ugly.

Thanks, ya I want the 3G portion of the Pure, but feel it is to fugly to be honest, but really like the look of the TD2.
Has he done an upgrade to 6.5 rom yet?

No issues for me, other than poor reception. I have one of AT$T's Go plans, and nothing changed when I switched from my Polaris to the TD2, other than the drop in reception. To be fair, I live in a very marginal rural area - the iPhone I tried didn't work at all in my house.

That was the first thing I did. After using the Pure's stock ROM, you would too. Even though he wasn't using it, my experiences were just so horrible.

i have the D2 on AT&t and the reception is great now after i upgraded to WM6.5
i live in the USA and i havn't had any problems so far

Using the TD2 on ATT right now, reception is kind of weak in some spots compare to iphone and my old phone, but i still get full signal on the outside
edge works fine, slower than 3g but i dont really care becasue i pay for $10 data plan instead of $30
use the latest radio... that gave me the best signal and battery life so far

Those of you that are having problems with reception on the Diamond 2 and Pure I would suggest ugrading the radio if it's not the latest. I've had my Diamond2 since the day it came out (I'm on T-Mo) and had less reception than my old HTC Touch and less reception than others on T-mo. As soon as new Radios came out I upgraded and 2 months ago I upgraded to the latest at that time and I've been getting great reception.
At my familys buisness no one... no carrier can hold a signal in there. The best is Criketbut I can manage holding 2 bars now and sometimes 3 almost anywhere in the building and get full when I'm near the front. Before the radio upgrade I would get nothing. Even up front where my HTC Touch would get atleast 2 bars.

In terms of updating the radio, I am getting conflicting information...when you update a radio firmware in an HTC phone does it wipe out all the settings as do ROM updates (which sometimes include radios and do wipe all your settings out)?
HTC Touch Freak said:
Those of you that are having problems with reception on the Diamond 2 and Pure I would suggest ugrading the radio if it's not the latest. I've had my Diamond2 since the day it came out (I'm on T-Mo) and had less reception than my old HTC Touch and less reception than others on T-mo. As soon as new Radios came out I upgraded and 2 months ago I upgraded to the latest at that time and I've been getting great reception.
At my familys buisness no one... no carrier can hold a signal in there. The best is Criketbut I can manage holding 2 bars now and sometimes 3 almost anywhere in the building and get full when I'm near the front. Before the radio upgrade I would get nothing. Even up front where my HTC Touch would get atleast 2 bars.
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Free Man said:
In terms of updating the radio, I am getting conflicting information...when you update a radio firmware in an HTC phone does it wipe out all the settings as do ROM updates (which sometimes include radios and do wipe all your settings out)?
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No a radio update does not wipe anything out of your phone. Only a Rom update does. A Rom update does not effect the radio as far as I know. I've had the same radio flash forever and have flashed several different Roms.

Well on the Touch Cruise I did the last official ROM update and it also updated the radio version, so at least they are included with those updates some of the time. The important thing is that if you do a radio update on its own you do not have to worry about wiping out your phone!

Official ROMs will always include the radio, custom cooked ROMs do not unless stated.

Bad Reception on UK Vodafone

Hi all,
I'm on Vodafone in London, and i'm finding i'm getting really poor reception and dropped calls.
After trying out a few ROMS i settled on Energy 21903 build as i've found its the most reliable ROM. I've also tried Artemis and Energy 23569 builds but just found they weren't as stable and crashed at some point.
At the moment i've installed 2.07 Radio.
My problem is that it seems to take ages to detect a signal and sometimes it comes and goes. I also only get one days battery.
Has any other Vodafone users experienced similar problems and whats the best radio for Vodafone in London?
Cheers

bobtastic said:
Hi all,
I'm on Vodafone in London, and i'm finding i'm getting really poor reception and dropped calls.
After trying out a few ROMS i settled on Energy 21903 build as i've found its the most reliable ROM. I've also tried Artemis and Energy 23569 builds but just found they weren't as stable and crashed at some point.
At the moment i've installed 2.07 Radio.
My problem is that it seems to take ages to detect a signal and sometimes it comes and goes. I also only get one days battery.
Has any other Vodafone users experienced similar problems and whats the best radio for Vodafone in London?
Cheers
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Surprised you say Artemis is unstable, did you do a task 29 before flash. I found this ROM on Vodafone to be excellent. Try the radio in my signature, it seems ok for me but to be honest the best advice I can give is flash one and try it for a few days.

bobbyball said:
Surprised you say Artemis is unstable, did you do a task 29 before flash. I found this ROM on Vodafone to be excellent. Try the radio in my signature, it seems ok for me but to be honest the best advice I can give is flash one and try it for a few days.
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I found that Artemis works ok for a few days then i start getting problems like system hangs. I found the same thing with Energy at first but then switch to the older windows build and haven't had any problems since.
I'll give you the radio a go, but i just want to know if its my phone thats poor on reception or just that Voda are not as good as they used to be

i left voda at the start of the year as after 3 years with them the siginal strength was dropping everywhere and became none existant at my house on diffrent handsets

colinp said:
i left voda at the start of the year as after 3 years with them the siginal strength was dropping everywhere and became none existant at my house on diffrent handsets
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I'd love to leave them, but unfortunately took up an 18 month contract on November, thinking about my past experience with them was good. What a dope i am.

HI Guys
I have got exactly the same problem with the battery/reception on Vodafone.
I am using Energy May 13th 23569 GTX, with Radio 2.10.50.28_2, and also get 1 day of battery tops.
I have noticed the Phone stays in flight mode sometimes after losing the signal, which is quite annoying.

yo
i live in a complete 2g area and use the radio RADIO_2.10.50.19_2
but as you are london and probably get alot of 3G and H symbols on your HD2 it will probably help but as soon as i visit my girlfriends in lincoln and get H, my phone lasts 1.5 days ish but i am used to charging nightly
its something we have to live with man with these power hungry phones

Im on voda in uk - midlands
I use radio 2.10.50.28.2 and it seems the same as every radio i have tried - at home constantly dropping in and out, from 3 bars 3G - to flight mode and back again.
In work i have almost full signal and H 3-4bars.
Im not too worried about the battery its just the signal at home that pees me off!!
Ive tried (i think) every radio apart from the .51. ones - does anyone know which radio vodafone HD2 shipped with??

If you have bad signal at home, get yourself a SureSignal booster (check it out here)
I use the 2.10.50.28 up here in Glasgow, and I get occasional drops at home, but out and about it's usually always very good. Sitting right now with H at 2-bars.

We had Vodafone for our corporate phones at my last work, they changed to O2 after a month as so few users managed to get decent signals. That was UK-wide.

rp-x1 said:
We had Vodafone for our corporate phones at my last work, they changed to O2 after a month as so few users managed to get decent signals. That was UK-wide.
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Vodafone and O2 share masts, so signal is generally the same in all areas of the UK for both networks. Of course it does vary slightly from area to area, and radio and make of phone matter too.

I think Voda just aren't as good as they used to be with reception. I think the phone must have something to do with it as well, but the general picture i get when asking around is that they're just not as good as they used to be.
Oh well, gonna try 2.10 and see if its any improvement.

Vodafone reception has been fine for years in all of my Nokia handsets but was so rubbish on the HD2 I was beginning to regret my purchase. Switched to O2 and reception is now fabulous, no regrets now!

Voda signal
Have to agree with most of the people who have posted on this thread. Voda reception is patchy at best.
At times I can be on full strength HSPDA, then for no apparent reason, I'll be in exactly the same spot and the signal just disappears altogether.
Though to be fair, I'm not sure whether to blame it on voda as I came from Three which got a brill signal in all areas, but that's all I really have to compare it too. We do use Voda 3G dongles on laptops at work...and they are absolute crap...lucky if we get a signal, and when we do they're slower than Slowy McSlow on the slow train from Slowsville!!

Voda reception seems to have got really bad this last 2 years they are even offering a home router to boost reception!!??(I think they missed the MOBILE phone part!),
having said that my TP2 had much better reception than the HD2..
I have also tried alot of different roms and Radios I am in Hampshire so not too far from London.... I am using 2.09.50.29_2 along with the cab for call quality fix it is a US Tmo radio, so you need to use with a TmoUS compatible rom.
I know alot of people are using the 2.10 radios but after many trials I have found 2.09 the most stable and best all round for data, reception and battery,
Hope this helps

The whole point of the router is to boost your signal at home. A lot of people live in bad signal areas, but have no problems elsewhere, so that is designed to help me get better signal at home, the one place you can at least do something about it. And apparently, it works very well.

Radio Problems

Hey Guys, I just got a HD2 last night and I'm seeing a weird issue with the radio. While the phone is in one spot it will switch between 3 and no bars constantly this means marketplace and other apps just refuse to work. It was running the latest ROM out of the box which I've seen posts about radio issues.
Is there a fix for this?

Upgrade to 2.13 that fixes the radio issues. A lot of people have that issue and the latest ROM seems to fix that.

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Upgrade to 2.13 that fixes the radio issues. A lot of people have that issue and the latest ROM seems to fix that.
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I'm running 2.13.531.1(90963) Release date 04/28/10 is that the newest?

Thats it - I've seen quite a few posts about radio issues even with the new rom on TMobile's forum. Since TMOBILE or HTC didn't provide a item by item fix list who knows if the radio was even modified. The only way to determine if there is a problem with the phone or the network is to take two TMOBILE phones and compare the signal/network in the same location. Haven't seen anyone really do that here. Would do it if I had another phone thats a non HD2.
Compared to ATT in my city Tmobile's network is VERY spotty. 3G coverage is strong to nonexistent even on the same road mile to mile. When its full bars 3G get about 800-900kbps on network speeds.
Go into a parking garage or building it will loose 3g. ATT's 3g signal is much stronger although their download speeds and internet speeds go from 1500 way down. Their network also feels slower - due to the number of IPHONES on the network sucking up bandwidth.

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Thats it - I've seen quite a few posts about radio issues even with the new rom on TMobile's forum. Since TMOBILE or HTC didn't provide a item by item fix list who knows if the radio was even modified.
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The new ROM has a different radio version number. I highly doubt HTC would issue a new version number for the radio without actually making any changes...somebody would figure that out pretty quick and they'd have some serious egg on their faces. That's the kind of shady business practice that companies take years to live down.

HTC HD 2 - Drops signal completely when held!

Just got my HD2 on Vodafone.
Signal is fine when the phone is stationary, but when I hold it.. it drops from 4 bars to either 1 or none.
I have:
- Disabled data/3g/hspda etc.
- Tried many different radio's up until 2.12.50.02_2 (which is an improvement but it still happens)
- Updated ROM to latest Energy Series.
Am I right in thinking the phone is faulty?... or is this common?
Thanks

Hehe, this is ridiculous. I believe HD2 has one of the best signal reception among the smartphones. My signal has always been great so I believe your phone is faulty. My 2c. Let's hear the others.

kashinoda said:
Just got my HD2 on Vodafone.
Signal is fine when the phone is stationary, but when I hold it.. it drops from 4 bars to either 1 or none.
I have:
- Disabled data/3g/hspda etc.
- Tried many different radio's up until 2.12.50.02_2 (which is an improvement but it still happens)
- Updated ROM to latest Energy Series.
Am I right in thinking the phone is faulty?... or is this common?
Thanks
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That is normal, our big heads are blocking the signal, but seriously, the "bars" are misleading, thanks to all those Cingular commercials , it really takes good signal quality to get a good connection, not good signal strength ...
So if the bars are dropping, and you cannot use the phone then that is a problem, but if the bars drop , and the phone/data/whatever works fine, then it is not really an issue ...
Just as an example, when I am at the college here, I have only one bar, but I am on hsdpa, and get like 2 meg of data, wish it was hsdpa+ but that is a diff story, and the phone works fine with only 1 bar, now inversely , people on VZ where I am at have 3 bars and their data is sooooo slow, and they drop calls ...
p.s. if it is dropping to none, check your area make sure they are not upgrading the towers, it is happening a lot and often here in the US in some areas ....

kashinoda said:
Just got my HD2 on Vodafone.
Signal is fine when the phone is stationary, but when I hold it.. it drops from 4 bars to either 1 or none.
I have:
- Disabled data/3g/hspda etc.
- Tried many different radio's up until 2.12.50.02_2 (which is an improvement but it still happens)
- Updated ROM to latest Energy Series.
Am I right in thinking the phone is faulty?... or is this common?
Thanks
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Are you sure you're not just a left-handed iPhone user?

watcher64 said:
That is normal, our big heads are blocking the signal, but seriously, the "bars" are misleading, thanks to all those Cingular commercials , it really takes good signal quality to get a good connection, not good signal strength ...
So if the bars are dropping, and you cannot use the phone then that is a problem, but if the bars drop , and the phone/data/whatever works fine, then it is not really an issue ...
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Yeah it's dropping to the point it loses signal, I try to call my mobile from my landline and I get the answering service.
What's really strange is, I just put a T-Mobile sim card in... and when I hold the phone, there's no bar dropping at all.
So in summary.
Vodafone Sim:
Stationary - 4 bars
Holding - drops to the point of no reception
T-Mobile Sim
Stationary - 4 bars
Holding - 4 bars

kashinoda said:
Yeah it's dropping to the point it loses signal, I try to call my mobile from my landline and I get the answering service.
What's really strange is, I just put a T-Mobile sim card in... and when I hold the phone, there's no bar dropping at all.
So in summary.
Vodafone Sim:
Stationary - 4 bars
Holding - drops to the point of no reception
T-Mobile Sim
Stationary - 4 bars
Holding - 4 bars
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Different Freq's , so the tmo signal is just stronger where you are ....
is it a TMOUS HD2 ?
If it is , they do not support the same freq's as the EU models, for other providers ....

watcher64 said:
Different Freq's , so the tmo signal is just stronger where you are ....
is it a TMOUS HD2 ?
If it is , they do not support the same freq's as the EU models, for other providers ....
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No it's not the US one.
So.. combination of hardware fault and weak signal?

wrong forum. this should be posted at the iphone4 forums.
the HD2 had to be one if the best reception phone and i am sure many agrees.

Just phoned up Vodafone to see if any problems, and they said there are no faults in the area at all. They said it was probably the handset but I explained that I had tried with a T-Mobile and Orange sim with no such problems.
They then said they'll send me out a new Vodafone sim card as they suspect that could be the issue. And that could take up to 5 working days... taking me out of my 7-day cancellation period, so naturally I said no thanks.
Going to head into my town center and pick up a Vodafone sim from the £1 shop... if I still have that problem I'm cancelling as I can find the same deal on Orange.
Question...
Has any one experienced a sim card being at fault for bad/dropping connections??? Seems complete rubbish to me, especially seeing as the sim is new...

ive seen a few vodafone users saying that .50 radios are no good for use with vodafone.....
id try a .51 radio and let it settle in for a few days......

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ive seen a few vodafone users saying that .50 radios are no good for use with vodafone.....
id try a .51 radio and let it settle in for a few days......
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NO NO NO NO NO ...
It is a TMOUS phone , do not flash a .51 radio to it ....
Will most likely brick it ...!!!

conantroutman said:
ive seen a few vodafone users saying that .50 radios are no good for use with vodafone.....
id try a .51 radio and let it settle in for a few days......
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I changed back to stock rom from Voda, then upgraded the radio to 2.09.51.03 last night.
Still manged to have it lose signal completely whilst the phone was in my hand writing a text.

kashinoda said:
No it's not the US one.
So.. combination of hardware fault and weak signal?
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its an eu model.....
.51 radio should be ok.....

kashinoda said:
I changed back to stock rom from Voda, then upgraded the radio to 2.09.51.03 last night.
Still manged to have it lose signal completely whilst the phone was in my hand writing a text.
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that's weird.... vodafone do seem to be generally piss poor for signal...despite their claims of being one of the best.
Id still suggest letting that radio settle in for 48 hours our so.

conantroutman said:
that's weird.... vodafone do seem to be generally piss poor for signal...despite their claims of being one of the best.
Id still suggest letting that radio settle in for 48 hours our so.
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I'm going to change to 2.07.51.05 / 2.09.51.03 and leave it for a bit then... are there any higher .51 radios?
Thinking I'm going to end up canceling contract, if .51 works it's going to restrict me from using certain roms .

Sorry about my earlier post, I could have sworn, it was said earlier that it was a US model ...
Wow ,screwed the pooch on that one ...

[Q] Definitive way to improve reception?

Okay, so I'm on the T-Mobile USA network. I've had a Dash 3G for a long time, and I've recently picked up an HD2. My Dash 3G gets full bars in my house, no matter where I am. But when I put the SIM card in the HD2, I'm lucky if I get any service at all. If I so much as LOOK at it the wrong way, the signal dies completely.
Is there a definitive way of increasing the antenna reception, or is the HD2 just like this all the time? Or is it just my phone? Is there a specific radio people have tried that have improved reception (I'm in Utah, if that makes a difference)?
Sorry, I'm still way new to all this flashing and stuff.
(I also posted this in the HD2 Q&A board, since I didn't know if the version of the phone would make a difference. It IS a TMOUS version.)

Im my experience...the HD2 actually has EXCELLENT recption compared to older HTC devices...so it may just be your phone. If it's fairly new, maybe ask T-Mobile for a warranty replacement.

same issue
I have had the same issue since i brought my HD2 home. My roommate has a new G2 and gets full signal as there are 3 Tmo towers within 1000 feet of my house. Yet I barely get 2 bars and most often, none at all. She gets "lol4g" throughout the house while I barely get it when outside, pointed at the tower holding onto my tinfoil hat.
HTC HD2 TMOUS
WinMo ver: CoreCell 4.2
Android: MattC leo + Froyo /w sense 1.8
Radio: 2.10.50.26
I have reloaded every version of the readio and nothing is making it better. When I went to TMO, I had full signal sitting in their store so they pretty much didnt do anything but soft reset the phone.