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I was considering going with an imported unlocked TD2 on AT&T and wondered how many are currently doing so and what your experience has been, I realize that I would not get 3G data. How is the phone on AT&T, on just Edge? Any issues?
Also did you have any problem keeping whatever current data plan you have when switching your sim card into the new TD2 or did you somehow get switched to the $30 plan "automatically"?
My friend got a EU TD2 recently, and had me help him set it up. Works fine on edge, no other general issues. He already had a data plan, but it shouldn't add one if you don't already have one. Kinda wish I woulda done the same as him, because I always turn off 3G on my pure to save battery, and its incredibly ugly.
Thanks, ya I want the 3G portion of the Pure, but feel it is to fugly to be honest, but really like the look of the TD2.
Has he done an upgrade to 6.5 rom yet?
No issues for me, other than poor reception. I have one of AT$T's Go plans, and nothing changed when I switched from my Polaris to the TD2, other than the drop in reception. To be fair, I live in a very marginal rural area - the iPhone I tried didn't work at all in my house.
That was the first thing I did. After using the Pure's stock ROM, you would too. Even though he wasn't using it, my experiences were just so horrible.
i have the D2 on AT&t and the reception is great now after i upgraded to WM6.5
i live in the USA and i havn't had any problems so far
Using the TD2 on ATT right now, reception is kind of weak in some spots compare to iphone and my old phone, but i still get full signal on the outside
edge works fine, slower than 3g but i dont really care becasue i pay for $10 data plan instead of $30
use the latest radio... that gave me the best signal and battery life so far
Those of you that are having problems with reception on the Diamond 2 and Pure I would suggest ugrading the radio if it's not the latest. I've had my Diamond2 since the day it came out (I'm on T-Mo) and had less reception than my old HTC Touch and less reception than others on T-mo. As soon as new Radios came out I upgraded and 2 months ago I upgraded to the latest at that time and I've been getting great reception.
At my familys buisness no one... no carrier can hold a signal in there. The best is Criketbut I can manage holding 2 bars now and sometimes 3 almost anywhere in the building and get full when I'm near the front. Before the radio upgrade I would get nothing. Even up front where my HTC Touch would get atleast 2 bars.
In terms of updating the radio, I am getting conflicting information...when you update a radio firmware in an HTC phone does it wipe out all the settings as do ROM updates (which sometimes include radios and do wipe all your settings out)?
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Those of you that are having problems with reception on the Diamond 2 and Pure I would suggest ugrading the radio if it's not the latest. I've had my Diamond2 since the day it came out (I'm on T-Mo) and had less reception than my old HTC Touch and less reception than others on T-mo. As soon as new Radios came out I upgraded and 2 months ago I upgraded to the latest at that time and I've been getting great reception.
At my familys buisness no one... no carrier can hold a signal in there. The best is Criketbut I can manage holding 2 bars now and sometimes 3 almost anywhere in the building and get full when I'm near the front. Before the radio upgrade I would get nothing. Even up front where my HTC Touch would get atleast 2 bars.
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In terms of updating the radio, I am getting conflicting information...when you update a radio firmware in an HTC phone does it wipe out all the settings as do ROM updates (which sometimes include radios and do wipe all your settings out)?
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No a radio update does not wipe anything out of your phone. Only a Rom update does. A Rom update does not effect the radio as far as I know. I've had the same radio flash forever and have flashed several different Roms.
Well on the Touch Cruise I did the last official ROM update and it also updated the radio version, so at least they are included with those updates some of the time. The important thing is that if you do a radio update on its own you do not have to worry about wiping out your phone!
Official ROMs will always include the radio, custom cooked ROMs do not unless stated.
Hi all,
I'm on Vodafone in London, and i'm finding i'm getting really poor reception and dropped calls.
After trying out a few ROMS i settled on Energy 21903 build as i've found its the most reliable ROM. I've also tried Artemis and Energy 23569 builds but just found they weren't as stable and crashed at some point.
At the moment i've installed 2.07 Radio.
My problem is that it seems to take ages to detect a signal and sometimes it comes and goes. I also only get one days battery.
Has any other Vodafone users experienced similar problems and whats the best radio for Vodafone in London?
Cheers
bobtastic said:
Hi all,
I'm on Vodafone in London, and i'm finding i'm getting really poor reception and dropped calls.
After trying out a few ROMS i settled on Energy 21903 build as i've found its the most reliable ROM. I've also tried Artemis and Energy 23569 builds but just found they weren't as stable and crashed at some point.
At the moment i've installed 2.07 Radio.
My problem is that it seems to take ages to detect a signal and sometimes it comes and goes. I also only get one days battery.
Has any other Vodafone users experienced similar problems and whats the best radio for Vodafone in London?
Cheers
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Surprised you say Artemis is unstable, did you do a task 29 before flash. I found this ROM on Vodafone to be excellent. Try the radio in my signature, it seems ok for me but to be honest the best advice I can give is flash one and try it for a few days.
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Surprised you say Artemis is unstable, did you do a task 29 before flash. I found this ROM on Vodafone to be excellent. Try the radio in my signature, it seems ok for me but to be honest the best advice I can give is flash one and try it for a few days.
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I found that Artemis works ok for a few days then i start getting problems like system hangs. I found the same thing with Energy at first but then switch to the older windows build and haven't had any problems since.
I'll give you the radio a go, but i just want to know if its my phone thats poor on reception or just that Voda are not as good as they used to be
i left voda at the start of the year as after 3 years with them the siginal strength was dropping everywhere and became none existant at my house on diffrent handsets
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i left voda at the start of the year as after 3 years with them the siginal strength was dropping everywhere and became none existant at my house on diffrent handsets
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I'd love to leave them, but unfortunately took up an 18 month contract on November, thinking about my past experience with them was good. What a dope i am.
HI Guys
I have got exactly the same problem with the battery/reception on Vodafone.
I am using Energy May 13th 23569 GTX, with Radio 2.10.50.28_2, and also get 1 day of battery tops.
I have noticed the Phone stays in flight mode sometimes after losing the signal, which is quite annoying.
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i live in a complete 2g area and use the radio RADIO_2.10.50.19_2
but as you are london and probably get alot of 3G and H symbols on your HD2 it will probably help but as soon as i visit my girlfriends in lincoln and get H, my phone lasts 1.5 days ish but i am used to charging nightly
its something we have to live with man with these power hungry phones
Im on voda in uk - midlands
I use radio 2.10.50.28.2 and it seems the same as every radio i have tried - at home constantly dropping in and out, from 3 bars 3G - to flight mode and back again.
In work i have almost full signal and H 3-4bars.
Im not too worried about the battery its just the signal at home that pees me off!!
Ive tried (i think) every radio apart from the .51. ones - does anyone know which radio vodafone HD2 shipped with??
If you have bad signal at home, get yourself a SureSignal booster (check it out here)
I use the 2.10.50.28 up here in Glasgow, and I get occasional drops at home, but out and about it's usually always very good. Sitting right now with H at 2-bars.
We had Vodafone for our corporate phones at my last work, they changed to O2 after a month as so few users managed to get decent signals. That was UK-wide.
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We had Vodafone for our corporate phones at my last work, they changed to O2 after a month as so few users managed to get decent signals. That was UK-wide.
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Vodafone and O2 share masts, so signal is generally the same in all areas of the UK for both networks. Of course it does vary slightly from area to area, and radio and make of phone matter too.
I think Voda just aren't as good as they used to be with reception. I think the phone must have something to do with it as well, but the general picture i get when asking around is that they're just not as good as they used to be.
Oh well, gonna try 2.10 and see if its any improvement.
Vodafone reception has been fine for years in all of my Nokia handsets but was so rubbish on the HD2 I was beginning to regret my purchase. Switched to O2 and reception is now fabulous, no regrets now!
Voda signal
Have to agree with most of the people who have posted on this thread. Voda reception is patchy at best.
At times I can be on full strength HSPDA, then for no apparent reason, I'll be in exactly the same spot and the signal just disappears altogether.
Though to be fair, I'm not sure whether to blame it on voda as I came from Three which got a brill signal in all areas, but that's all I really have to compare it too. We do use Voda 3G dongles on laptops at work...and they are absolute crap...lucky if we get a signal, and when we do they're slower than Slowy McSlow on the slow train from Slowsville!!
Voda reception seems to have got really bad this last 2 years they are even offering a home router to boost reception!!??(I think they missed the MOBILE phone part!),
having said that my TP2 had much better reception than the HD2..
I have also tried alot of different roms and Radios I am in Hampshire so not too far from London.... I am using 2.09.50.29_2 along with the cab for call quality fix it is a US Tmo radio, so you need to use with a TmoUS compatible rom.
I know alot of people are using the 2.10 radios but after many trials I have found 2.09 the most stable and best all round for data, reception and battery,
Hope this helps
The whole point of the router is to boost your signal at home. A lot of people live in bad signal areas, but have no problems elsewhere, so that is designed to help me get better signal at home, the one place you can at least do something about it. And apparently, it works very well.
When I first got the Evo, I was getting about 900kb/sec-1.1mb/sec in my house, and ever since I've flashed these custom ROM's and new radio... The best I can get is about 300-500kb/sec... I've also noticed that my signal seems to fluctuate every couple seconds, from no signal to a full signal, which never used to happen either. I know I'm not going crazy, I just wondered if anyone else has experienced this... It's really discouraging
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i also noticee this too and ur are ABSOLUTELY right i was clockin like 1.1mb-1.5 before and im rooted using the fresh room and im at 600kb
gonna return mine, get a new one, and stick to stock... i think it broke my radio internally.
I notice slower speeds as well from my first day or so 4th and 5th. I might feel the same way you do if I didnt have my girlfriend and best friend who both got evo around the same time and are being completely stock. They both have similar speeds to me. I actually went into a Sprint store to complain and sure snuff my speeds jumped up to 700kbps downstream for the first time in almost a week right before I went in.
I am NOT happy with my 3g speeds and am borderline on canceling my contract. If it wasn't for this awesome phone and this awesome dev community I would tell Sprint to kiss my whole @$$h0le. Premium data my ass.
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I noticed better speeds after the ROM and Radio update. Speeds are highly variable and depend on a lot of factors. I doubt you damaged it by flashing, flash memory is designed to be flashed.
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gonna return mine, get a new one, and stick to stock... i think it broke my radio internally.
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Just run the RUU, it will restore the original radio and everything else you think you lost. Link is here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685835
I have a feeling this has more to do with your local network congestion, but feel free to prove otherwise.
I've flashed the original RUU and it didn't fix it... why would my speed halve with no changed variables? It just doesn't make sense.
It's not possible that I damaged my radio by flashing the upgraded radio? And now that's why it's acting erratic and my speeds are so bad?
How fast is your 3G when you run speedtest.net?
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How fast is your 3G when you run speedtest.net?
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I just got 490 down 380 up, but my results vary wildly... again depending on network conditions and where you are connected and how many users are also connected, etc. Get a few people on the same tower that are into bittorrent and your results can be drastically different.
Some past results in my history:
780/540
949/1013
388/770
357/721
662/139
561/577
680/1013
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It's not possible that I damaged my radio by flashing the upgraded radio? And now that's why it's acting erratic and my speeds are so bad?
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Even if it is possible, your new phone will come pre-broken most likely. That radio is the official Sprint radio and if the phone has the OTA update you will have it.
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I've flashed the original RUU and it didn't fix it... why would my speed halve with no changed variables? It just doesn't make sense.
It's not possible that I damaged my radio by flashing the upgraded radio? And now that's why it's acting erratic and my speeds are so bad?
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Just because you do not know what the variables are, does not mean there are no variables.
Possible variables you are not considering.
There are 20 other people around you with new EVOs testing their speeds, tethering, and downloading like its going out of style.
Time of the day. There are peak usage times. Maybe your first test was on a low usage time.
The site you use to test your speed has become more congested recently.
There is more CDMA users around you recently. With CDMA towers, the more users per tower, the lower its radius/signal will get.
Maybe you had WiFi on the first time?
I am sure I could make up 15 more variables if I wanted to.
To ease your concerns, think of ROMs as software, and your phone as the hardware. It is very unlikely that you did damage to the hardware. Especially considering most of these ROMs are exactly like Stock minus a few Sprint apps.
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I just got 490 down 380 up, but my results vary wildly... again depending on network conditions and where you are connected and how many users are also connected, etc. Get a few people on the same tower that are into bittorrent and your results can be drastically different.
Some past results in my history:
780/540
949/1013
388/770
357/721
662/139
561/577
680/1013
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Sorry to break it to you but these are typical sprint speeds. Sprint is one of the slowest cell carriers I have ever used.
I'm not an idiot alright... I didn't have Wifi on... I know somethings screwed up with my phone, it's not in my head.
There are possibly some variables as to why my speed isn't the same as it was a week ago, but there really is no explanation that for my erratic signal.
Oh well, hopefully I can figure it out.
obviously this has nothing to do with wifi, but doesnt the EVO have 4G and cdma radio's????
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Just run the RUU, it will restore the original radio and everything else you think you lost. Link is here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685835
I have a feeling this has more to do with your local network congestion, but feel free to prove otherwise.
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I am close to returning my EVO. I thought that maybe one of my flashes has done something to my 3g speeds, but I ran that RUU and no luck . I am going to be going to Sprint store on Wednesday to compare.
I am in Aurora CO, I am coming from Nexus one on T-Mobile. I LOVE Evo, but hate the way sprint is. I use my phone at the gym to listen to Pandora/Slacker, can't even do it on Evo since I get such crappy 3g speeds.. Downtown Denver phone works fine, but not here... Anyways, on T-Mobile I got about 1.6mb down, and 300up most of the time.
Today, I went down to T-Mobile store and ran SpeedTest on MT3G and Evo. At the store, MT3G got 3mbps down!!!, Evo howered around 600kbps. Anyways, point is, I really am not too happy with Sprint in my area. I am sure that in other places it is fine, but it doesn't seem to be the case here. I have tried everything, even downgraded my radio, no change in results.
clubtech said:
Sorry to break it to you but these are typical sprint speeds. Sprint is one of the slowest cell carriers I have ever used.
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While I believe that maybe your experience, it does not match with results I found.
Sprint 3rd of 4.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/26/engadget-labs-the-best-mobile-broadband-carrier-in-america/
Sprint 1st of 3
http://gizmodo.com/5111990/boston-3g-data-test-att-sprint-and-verizon
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While I believe that maybe your experience, it does not match with results I found.
Sprint 3rd of 4.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/26/engadget-labs-the-best-mobile-broadband-carrier-in-america/
Sprint 1st of 3
http://gizmodo.com/5111990/boston-3g-data-test-att-sprint-and-verizon
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Once again, really depends on where you are. I have posted of my results here in Colorado, so yea...
have you tried changing the PRL's to use Verizons towers?
from my experience the only negative thing it does is break sprint TV
i felt the same way, just noticed tonight. but now that i've run a bunch more speed tests, it all averages out. no doubt all these evo's are taxing sprints network to the extreme. :/ hopefully that $10 surcharge will quickly pay for upgrades.
So I live close to disneyland. I have annual passes and am there often. Anyone on T-Mobile and that has been to disneyland knows that service sucks there.
I am only able to get any kind of service when I turn on "2G only".
I have been having service issues lately as well and am looking for something solve some of these issues.
but basically I'd just like to actually use "4g" or even "3g" speeds while inside disneyland.
If no one is able to help, than, my secondary question would be to what radio works best with CM 7.2 RC1 that just came out. I'm about to switch over to that from ILWT.
Well, there's no radio that'll give you 3G/4G signal in an area which, apparently(?) has no 3G/4G coverage.
As for your second inquiry, didn't you even bother using the SEARCH function? I'm sorry but it's a tad annoying considering how many times this question has been asked.
The answer to this is, in short: "Trial and Error"
There is no universally best radio. There are so many factors that have to be taken into account. So just because someone close to the Disneyland area may be getting good reception with radio #1, it doesn't mean you will, too. You have to try radio #2 or #3 and see what works best for you.
So yeah, since switching a Radio involves so much testing, it is generally discouraged to switch if what you have is working well.
Also, CM7.2 doesn't seem like it adds all that many features to justify the lack of optimization when compared to ILWT. Just a personal opinion, though.
I live in anaheim and have an annual pass. Ive never experienced issues at the crappiest place on earth.
I think you'd be fine with the .19 radio.
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I live in anaheim and have an annual pass. Ive never experienced issues at the crappiest place on earth.
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Interesting that this person and the OP have the same device, same carrier, and with very different reception experiences in the same location. One would have to make the conclusion that the radio in fact may make a big difference. Care to share with the OP which radio you are using?
could be faulty equipment. same handset can vary dbms with same radio/rom version etc. seen it first hand as a cell tech back in the day. might wanna try a backup phone and pop the sim just to check.... who knows?
I've tried multiple roms, while at Disneyland and my fiancé has a g2 as well with the same issues. Tmobile service inside Disneyland sucks, unless you are on 2G. All I'm trying to find is a work around.
Calll TMobile and let them know that at&t is no longer a threat so they can start building more towers.
Use newest one.
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So i just got a sim card for my phone. Well i get amazing service at my moms house and thats cause theres a tower right next to us at the local ski resort. However at my fathers house i get horrible service. If i pick up my phone i loose service completely, ive done the hardware fix, which didnt help, and when i do have service its always JUST edge. When according to T-Mobile's coverage map i am flooded with 3g and some 4g all around me.
So im guessing it MUST be the phone. In addition to the hardware fix, im thinking about soldering a 26-30 gauge wire to the two prongs and laying the wire around the device. like the perimiter of the Mobo. Giving it an antenna like my HTC Touch Pro 2.
Also, would flashing a newer radio help any? If i am able to flash a newer radio cause i know in order for android to work that it must be a certain radio. Howerver now that android is set up will i be able to flash one? Im on CLk btw.
Secondly, when i have service its EDGE, but occasionally it will jump to H symbol (Im guessing this is HSDPA) now the reason its jumpping would have to be lack of service, my guessing that is. To me its the equivelant of jumping from 3G to 1x on Sprints network.
Also what is G? lol i am at G now not E or H just G lol. Sorry for my noobishness but im coming from a Sprint CDMA network
Does anybody else have issues like this?
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I've noticed it's horrible when I hold it, could it be my sim card?
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Hey, I've had my HD2 T-mob for over a year now imported to New Zealand. And I'm running on 2degree's(Vodafone) here which runs on GSM and UMTS, I only get reception in cities and it still cuts out when I'm in very low residential areas. I get absolutely no reception outside of any city and it's just completely unreliable, My baseband is 15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14 I don't know too much about this stuff but I'm pretty sure I'm running the most up to date radio. Any help or recommendations would be superb.
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Hey, I've had my HD2 T-mob for over a year now imported to New Zealand. And I'm running on 2degree's(Vodafone) here which runs on GSM and UMTS, I only get reception in cities and it still cuts out when I'm in very low residential areas. I get absolutely no reception outside of any city and it's just completely unreliable, My baseband is 15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14 I don't know too much about this stuff but I'm pretty sure I'm running the most up to date radio. Any help or recommendations would be superb.
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Well after much googling hoping to find a software fix, there isnt any. Its the hardware of the phone(in my case anyhow) T-Mobile's coverage says i have strong 3G and some 4G (like if i drive 5 mins) but yet i can barely pic up edge. So i took apart my phone and solderd two wires the the prongs and BOOM easily 3G was picked up two - three bars. BUT i couldnt reassemble the device because the wires were too big. All in all it comes down to HTC putting in a lowsy antenna. It works good if youre right next to a tower but second you go away it sucks. I mean heck, i bought a cheap 29 dollar T-Mobile prepaid samsung phone and that had 2 bars solid of 3G. So i know the service is there but its just that the phone cannot pick it up.