I'm just getting more and more disappointed with HTC & Sprints recent practices..
Few weeks ago I went on the htc website and looked at the tech specs, and i'm almost certain it said 800x480 resolution as we all know..
The same thing on the sprint page.
Now, ever since the Nova v. Epson debacle they took down every mention of the phones resolution
Leading one to believe that the Epson units don't even have the same resolution.
Is it possible that these have not only a different screen, but even different resolution and no ****ing press release or information?
What the hell is going on here? WHY would they take down that kind of information?
I mean FFS how can you call it tech specs while leaving out key info?
I have a bunch of problems with my nova 003 phone right now, light leakage, screen separation, stuck pixel etc.
Now I have to worry about getting an even worse unit if I replace it!
All this added onto the 30fps cap and the bull**** with disabling the stock android launcher is making me a very unhappy camper..
Proof below:
Evo Tech Specs
Where it says:
Display 4.3-inch WVGA resolution Capacitive Multi-touch Screen
Compare that to the droid incredible tech specs:
Where it says:
Display 3.7-inch AMOLED touch-sensitive screen with 480 X 800 WVGA resolution
Or the HD2:
Display 4.3-inch HD touch-sensitive screen with 480 x 800 WVGA resolution
www.sprint.com (visit shop > phones > evo 4g)
I've gone through every bit of information they have on the website and NO mention of resolution anywhere..
The only other possible reason is that they don't want us to know that it has a lower res. than the iphone. (lol)
Or I'm just a crackhead and didn't realize that they never had the resolution up.
It all sounds too convenient though, why wouldn't they put something like that up?
Before the iphone4, WVGA was considered an excellent resolution.
The strangest part is that similar phones have that info easily accessible from htc.com.
So what is it, HTC too lazy to put up tech specs? Or are they trying to conceal something..
We already know that their are 2 variants of the evo displays, so it's not that far-fetched..
Finally, I know it can be done, but how do we check res on our phones? Can someone with an epson device chime in?
EDIT: PLEASE DON'T POST UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE TO ADD.
What are the differences? Should I replace my evo and risk getting an epson unit?
Don't worry, they are all still 800x480.
Wvga is 480x800 or more. It says wvga on sprint site
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Is your screen so bad that you have to worry about what somone wrote about it? Sheesh, I ripped Avatar from Blueray to 800X480 and it looks awesome on my phone. No one I have showed it to has said..... man you shoulda got AMOLED.
The EVO is awesome.
My screen isn't bad, at all!
The worry is that i'll replace my phone, and my old problems will still persist and i'll also have a worse quality display..
I wasn't sure that WVGA meant 480x800 or greater. I thought it meant that ballpark..
i woudlnt' believe the resolution until someone has done tests. if any one follows tv technology, you'd know how many tvs lied about their own resolution. games as well.
Brutal-Force said:
Is your screen so bad that you have to worry about what somone wrote about it? Sheesh, I ripped Avatar from Blueray to 800X480 and it looks awesome on my phone. No one I have showed it to has said..... man you shoulda got AMOLED.
The EVO is awesome.
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To be completely fair, you would expect that response from someone that has never seen AMOLED or doesn't have one next to a TFT panel. If you've only had ground beef your whole life, steak is going to be so much better once you get a taste.
heygrl said:
To be completely fair, you would expect that response from someone that has never seen AMOLED or doesn't have one next to a TFT panel. If you've only had ground beef your whole life, steak is going to be so much better once you get a taste.
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To be fair - Taste is subjective. It's like saying that SteakHouse 1 is better than Steakhouse 2. Not to everyone even after they have visited both.
I have the HTC incredible as well and I do not like the dots in the text. It's looks grainy. Pictures are very nice but small text is not as defined(anti-aliased) as TFT. Once again subjective to my own eyes.
mrmomoman said:
To be fair - Taste is subjective. It's like saying that SteakHouse 1 is better than Steakhouse 2. Not to everyone even after they have visited both.
I have the HTC incredible as well and I do not like the dots in the text. It's looks grainy. Pictures are very nice but small text is not as defined(anti-aliased) as TFT. Once again subjective to my own eyes.
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Sure, but they mentioned movies.
It's a conspiracy!! Quick, put on your tinfoil hats!!! WTF is the big deal? Enjoy your phone for what it is... it hasn't changed simply because the specs may or may not have been listed previously.
topdnbass said:
I'm just getting more and more disappointed with HTC & Sprints recent practices..
Few weeks ago I went on the htc website and looked at the tech specs, and i'm almost certain it said 800x480 resolution as we all know..
The same thing on the sprint page.
Now, ever since the Nova v. Epson debacle they took down every mention of the phones resolution
Leading one to believe that the Epson units don't even have the same resolution.
Different screen, different resolution and no ****ing press release or information?
What the hell is going on here? WHY would they take down that kind of information?
I mean FFS how can you call it tech specs without giving any information on the resolution?
I have a bunch of problems with my nova 003 phone right now, light leakage, screen separation, stuck pixel etc.
Now I have to worry about getting an even worse unit if I replace it!
All this added onto the 30fps cap and the bull**** with disabling the stock android launcher is making me a very unhappy camper..
Proof below:
Evo Tech Specs
Where it says:
Display 4.3-inch WVGA resolution Capacitive Multi-touch Screen
Compare that to the droid incredible tech specs:
Where it says:
Display 3.7-inch AMOLED touch-sensitive screen with 480 X 800 WVGA resolution
Or the HD2:
Display 4.3-inch HD touch-sensitive screen with 480 x 800 WVGA resolution
www.sprint.com (visit shop > phones > evo 4g)
I've gone through every bit of information they have on the website and NO mention resolution anywhere..
The only other possible reason is that they don't want us to know that it has a lower res. than the iphone.
Or I'm just a crackhead and didn't realize that they never had the resolution up.
It all sounds too convenient though, why wouldn't they put something like that up?
Before the iphone4, WVGA was considered an excellent resolution.
The strangest part is that similar phones have that info easily accessible from htc.com.
So what is it, HTC too lazy to put up tech specs? Or are they trying to conceal something..
We already know that their are 2 variants of the display, so it's not that far-fetched..
If i'm right though.
Honestly.. you simply CAN'T leave that out of the tech specs!
We need to EMAIL them until they understand...
Lying to your customers and deceiving them this way is never gonna end well HTC..
Finally, I know it can be done, but how do we check res on our phones? Can someone with an epson device chime in?
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HTC's page definitely needs an update. Doesn't the Evo also support WiFi N protocol as of the latest updates, and earlier hacks? :]
I think with the discovery of the use of Novatek and Epson screens in the phones, people are looking at HTC as a bottom feeder when it comes to parts.
I'm an A+ tech, had to teardown and put back together many machines, and if you looked at the different part numbers that existed for the same part (i.e. HP laptop LCD may have four different part numbers, the system board may have two, etc.), then you see HTC's use of two different parts for what it is, nothing.
WVGA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_VGA
Read, enjoy, relax
god people get bent outta shape over some stupid ****
lol
QVGA: 320x240
HVGA: 480x320
VGA: 640x480
WVGA: 800x480
That's how they are, the numbers never change.
some ignorance going on this thread. You should be weary of any replacement parts. you are paying for a $500 product; maybe it's biggest selling point being it's screen, and you're saying who cares?
Laptops often replace their screens with cheaper ones. HDTVs, eg. sony have replaced their higher end models with cheaper totally different panels (think $500 generic tv quality) after stellar reviews have been out. This is well documented.
The fact that manufacturers get away with false advertisement so often should be warning to keep on your guard.
If you think this is paranoia, you are not an educated consumer. That's ok, but don't insult those of us who are.
Thanks bob, exactly..
To the rest of you, seriously?
I'm not a damn idiot.
Someone mentioned it on another forum so I looked around and found no mention of the exact res. on either site, and hardly any tech specs at that..
Pretty unusual for one of the highest specced phones on the market, no?
@mrono.. I am well aware of the differences between the various standardized terms for display resolution..
However, the W in WVGA stands for Wide.
Are you telling me that 799x480 isn't wide vga?
I wasn't proposing that the newer ones have VGA res or something outrageous like that, but it's not out of the scope of imagination that there are differences between the epson and novatec screens apart from contrast/brightness..
It is obvious that the two displays are different, and if I got one with an off hue or the worst one because I couldn't put up with the screen separation, i'd be pissed.
So this is me covering my bases..
Which is only natural since recently it seems like they've been getting parts from wherever they can..
I'm not "complaining" about anything I just want to be sure I'm not making a mistake..
Very annoyed at all the assholes saying, just enjoy the phone.
I never mentioned anything about not liking the phone, which is why i'm REPLACING it and not returning it.
I love the phone other than the stuck pixel and screen separation..
I am COMPLETELY ****ING FINE with my current display. Happy?
Bob and Top...
It's not about being ignorant of facts, nor is it about being uneducated as a consumer. It's about taking the device for what it is... a PHONE. Yeah, so you may have shelled out $500 for it, but in the end, it's a phone. It's not a "down to the micron precision instrument". I'm an asshole for saying, "just enjoy the phone"? Get over yourselves. Nevermind, why waste my time with you? You'd probably complain about your Happy Meal toy.
Tell me this jye.
If it's just a phone, then I bet you'd prefer this?
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To most of us, these are not phones with extra gimmicks, but mini-computers with the ability to make calls..
They're expensive gadgets and have no reason not to work as expected.
It's not about being unable to accept a phones flaws, I accepted the G1's many flaws until it broke.
I'm trying to make an INFORMED decision about whether or not to replace my current evo with another possibly worse one within my 30-day window..
My only purpose in creating this thread was to spur conversation about the obviously different versions of evo's out there, and thus make a decision.
If you're going to complain and whine but don't have anything to add then might I politely ask you to "GTFO"?
Hey Top,
I haven't been complaining or whining... it seems that you're the one doing that, assuming there's a conspiracy in your original post. As for adding anything, I've said my piece, and contributed to this thread in my first post that stated that it wasn't necessarily a conspiracy and that, "it hasn't changed simply because the specs may or may not have been listed previously.
So kindly back the 'tude down a couple of notches.
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I remember a while back there was an article on Ars Technica (can't link yet, but google "ars Secrets of the Nexus One's screen" and you'll find it) about the Nexus One's AMOLED screen. They talked about how the AMOLED screen technology/layout resulted in text that wasn't as sharp as on the Motorola Droid. I'm curious if this is still a concern with Super AMOLED technology, as with the Epic 4G?
I'm looking to upgrade from my Palm Pre in the next few weeks (hoping the Epic 4G is out by then), but I'm hoping to do some background research before that. I use my phone quite a bit for web browsing now, and would probably increase that usage on a phone with a bigger screen and better browser. I'm also looking forward to being able to use Kindle's software for Android. Bottom line is that I know I'll be reading a LOT of text on my phone. Super AMOLED is supposed to be incredible for pictures and video, but if it's lackluster on text, it's not as useful to me.
If any of you have any thoughts or experiences regarding this issue (if it still is one on Super AMOLED), I'd love to hear it. Thanks!
Yes, it's still an issue.
SAMOLED Pentil subpixel layout makes text look jaggad compared to LCD. The reason for this is that the true addressable resolution of SAMOLED displays is not 480x480 but 393x653. This is the one drawback of this display. See my other posts where i compared the LCD of the EVO vs the Galaxy S. Additional problems are screen burn in and poor power consumption for mobile devices. Text on white backround (web browsing, document viewing) consumes 330% more power than LCD. The color saturation, contrast, black level, and viewing angles are stunning though.
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SAMOLED Pentil subpixel layout makes text look jaggad compared to LCD. The reason for this is that the true addressable resolution of SAMOLED displays is not 480x480 but 393x653. This is the one drawback of this display. See my other posts where i compared the LCD of the EVO vs the Galaxy S. Additional problems are screen burn in and poor power consumption for mobile devices. Text on white backround (web browsing, document viewing) consumes 330% more power than LCD. The color saturation, contrast, black level, and viewing angles are stunning though.
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I checked out your "Galaxy S (Epic, Captivate etc) VS EVO Comparison and thoughts" thread and it was an excellent overview. I'm leaning towards the Evo for the larger screen and better text readability. I'm out of town right now, but when I get back home next week I might try to track down an Evo somewhere. If the Epic comes out within the 30 day trial period, I'll check it out then.
The main things tempting me with the Epic are the nicer CPU & GPU, but I'm pretty sure I'll be happy regardless after being on my sluggish Pre for a year. If only Palm had been bought by someone who could have brought some of WebOS's features to Android (I think I'll miss having cards and gestures). Either way, both look like excellent phones and I'm anxious to get started with Android.
Thanks for the feedback!
violinbf said:
SAMOLED Pentil subpixel layout makes text look jaggad compared to LCD. The reason for this is that the true addressable resolution of SAMOLED displays is not 480x480 but 393x653.
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If that's the reason that it comes out like that, will the text be fixed when Android Gingerbread comes out? I've heard that gingerbread changes the resolution, but I don't know if that's true.
EnderTheThird said:
I checked out your "Galaxy S (Epic, Captivate etc) VS EVO Comparison and thoughts" thread and it was an excellent overview. I'm leaning towards the Evo for the larger screen and better text readability. I'm out of town right now, but when I get back home next week I might try to track down an Evo somewhere. If the Epic comes out within the 30 day trial period, I'll check it out then.
The main things tempting me with the Epic are the nicer CPU & GPU, but I'm pretty sure I'll be happy regardless after being on my sluggish Pre for a year. If only Palm had been bought by someone who could have brought some of WebOS's features to Android (I think I'll miss having cards and gestures). Either way, both look like excellent phones and I'm anxious to get started with Android.
Thanks for the feedback!
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Visit a T-Mobile or AT&T store and look at the Captivate and/or the Vibrant..the Epic will have the same screen..once you see it you can judge for yourself...the text may not be as sharp but it may be acceptable by your use...so its worth checking..
I have a evo and do pretty much nothing but text reading (ebooks and the web). Text is very easy to read and I have not noticed any eye strain yet.
That sucks about super amoled not doing text well.
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gTen said:
Visit a T-Mobile or AT&T store and look at the Captivate and/or the Vibrant..the Epic will have the same screen..once you see it you can judge for yourself...the text may not be as sharp but it may be acceptable by your use...so its worth checking..
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I tried doing that at a Best Buy yesterday but someone had stolen their demo unit(s). Apparently it's one of the more ghetto Best Buys in Boston. Who knew. I'll be checking it out when I get back home for sure though.
Hmmmm.... I went to the AT&T store last week, to check out the captivate and I didn't notice any problem in reading the text personally. I haven't made the switch to a smartphone yet so maybe my eyes are too inexperienced to notice something like that, but I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with my future Epic 4G
I have the captivate and yes, text on it is not as crisp as on the droid or droid x. But is it an issue, no. On really light colored backgrounds like white or light grey, if you look hard for it, you can see some fuzziness. But on colorful backgrounds you really cant see it. I can tell you, its a beautiful screen. Overall it looks better than the droid x, which has been described as dull or drab. The colors on the S-AMOLED really pop, and the fact that its an OLED means that black backgrounds are really true black (complete absence of light).
In my opinion its the second best display available, second only to the iphone4 display.
derek4484 said:
In my opinion its the second best display available, second only to the iphone4 display.
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Why would you say the retena display is better?
gTen said:
Why would you say the retena display is better?
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The only way the retina display is better is if you're reading text from under 10" away from your face, but then again who the heck reads with a phone up in their face? I read alot of e-books and other sites and I can tell you reading a page from a normal distance there is little to no difference.
As far as video playback and pictures the Samsung blows the retina display out of the water and by leaps and bounds is the #1 screen in the phone market hands down.
i have to agree that retina display looks better in my opinion. I have pretty good eyesight so that may be why. However, it doesn't make a difference in eyestrain or readability.
I own a captivate and read ebooks on a white background regularly. Its honestly not an issue.
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i have to agree that retina display looks better in my opinion. I have pretty good eyesight so that may be why. However, it doesn't make a difference in eyestrain or readability.
I own a captivate and read ebooks on a white background regularly. Its honestly not an issue.
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I'm more worried about screen-burn in, which is a very big problem for S-Amoled//Amoled screens.
With less than a year's use of my Nexus One, there is a slight amount of screen burn in, which isn't really avoidable.
NeonMonster said:
I'm more worried about screen-burn in, which is a very big problem for S-Amoled//Amoled screens.
With less than a year's use of my Nexus One, there is a slight amount of screen burn in, which isn't really avoidable.
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Screen burn ins were only a real problem with the early model amoled screens, much like plasma HDTV the screen tech has evolved and it doesn't hurt that the Super Amoled screens are developed by Samsung which are global HDTV innovators.
Besides for screen burn in to become permanent the screen would have to be on for hours on a static image, on a HDTV I can see that happening if you fall asleep maybe but who on earth turns off their phone's screen timeout and let's the screen stay on all day chugging battery life? That just won't happen.
I'm FAR more worried about the phone's future in regard of updates than I am of screen burn in on a mobile device. Not to mention you have a warranty which 100% covers such a thing as screen burn in and if you do happen to burn in a screen it usually happens sooner rather than later.
Sebrina said:
I'm FAR more worried about the phone's future in regard of updates than I am of screen burn in on a mobile device.
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I wouldn't be worried about that if I were you. The Galaxy S series is on all four major US carriers and will undoubtedly get a pretty large hacker following, so even if Samsung does stop updating the Galaxy S phones, there will always be cyanogenmod or many other custom ROMS. And if you're posting here, rooting your phone and installing a custom ROM shouldn't be a huge deal.
Sebrina said:
Screen burn ins were only a real problem with the early model amoled screens, much like plasma HDTV the screen tech has evolved and it doesn't hurt that the Super Amoled screens are developed by Samsung which are global HDTV innovators.
Besides for screen burn in to become permanent the screen would have to be on for hours on a static image, on a HDTV I can see that happening if you fall asleep maybe but who on earth turns off their phone's screen timeout and let's the screen stay on all day chugging battery life? That just won't happen.
I'm FAR more worried about the phone's future in regard of updates than I am of screen burn in on a mobile device. Not to mention you have a warranty which 100% covers such a thing as screen burn in and if you do happen to burn in a screen it usually happens sooner rather than later.
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It is not possible to have permanent screen burn in..as for temporary one...even LCDs state not to keep the same image on for too long to avoid temp burn-ins...
As for updates...we are not sure how much of a bone Samsung will give, but at the moment, event the Sprint Moment has gotten a Foyo 2.2 by the community.
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SAMOLED Pentil subpixel layout makes text look jaggad compared to LCD. The reason for this is that the true addressable resolution of SAMOLED displays is not 480x480 but 393x653. This is the one drawback of this display. See my other posts where i compared the LCD of the EVO vs the Galaxy S. Additional problems are screen burn in and poor power consumption for mobile devices. Text on white backround (web browsing, document viewing) consumes 330% more power than LCD. The color saturation, contrast, black level, and viewing angles are stunning though.
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Is that 330% more power figure accurate for the GS screens, I was under the impression that they are different than all previous devices? I read a lot of text in my personal usage. I wonder if an app could be developed to make all white pixels black and black white? Although white text isn't ideal if it amounted to 350% power savings my eyes/brain could adapt eventually?
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I wouldn't be worried about that if I were you. The Galaxy S series is on all four major US carriers and will undoubtedly get a pretty large hacker following, so even if Samsung does stop updating the Galaxy S phones, there will always be cyanogenmod or many other custom ROMS. And if you're posting here, rooting your phone and installing a custom ROM shouldn't be a huge deal.
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I heard that samsung encrypts the hardware drivers so it's not very easy to port new android versions.. Is this not an issue?
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Is that 330% more power figure accurate for the GS screens, I was under the impression that they are different than all previous devices? I read a lot of text in my personal usage. I wonder if an app could be developed to make all white pixels black and black white? Although white text isn't ideal if it amounted to 350% power savings my eyes/brain could adapt eventually?
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Well that is for the regular AMOLED screen...the Super AMOLED screen would most likely be around like 260% for that..but you gotta realize that your screen will never be FULLY pure white like that...the next revision of Super AMOLED(for 2011 plans to go RGBW to fix that).
Either way you'd never have so much white on the screen for it to waist that much energy...
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I heard that samsung encrypts the hardware drivers so it's not very easy to port new android versions.. Is this not an issue?
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It does not make it easy but not impossible...if they release a Galaxy S 2 in the future with Gingerbread or any other phone with it and don't do Gingerbread for Galaxy S..with some effort it would be possible to port it...
I reserved an Epic 4G for pick up today from the Sprint Store but decided to play around with a demo before buying it. Good thing I did. As the title suggests, I ended up walking out of the store with my Evo still activated.
The Epic has some things going for it. The appearance of the screen is amazing, as every single review has said already. The keyboard feels pretty good but unless I'm composing a long e-mail or typing up a word document, I'd rather just use the soft keyboard for quick texts and brief e-mails. The GPU on the Epic is also much better than the Epic. I downloaded Quadrant and the 3D graphics tests were hitting 30-50 FPS range where the Evo would only get to 15-20 FPS. Also, the Epic has Gorilla Glass...enough said about that.
Now for the bad. The soft keys are a pain in the ass when they dim. You can't tell what you are pressing until you've already hit the wrong one. The camera is not that great. I took a picture of the inside of the store with both the Evo and Epic. Both cameras were set to their max resolutions with minimum image compression. On the Evo, I could zoom in on the snapped picture and make out the weave in the carpet. But on the Epic, all I could see were colorful blobs. You wouldn't think the screen size would matter much but this was also very noticeable when using the soft keyboard and tapping on links with the browser zoomed out. Much easier to do on the Evo. Quadrant also gave the Epic (2.1) 900 vs the Evo (2.2) 1400 score index. I wish I had a 2.1 Evo to compare scores but that was all I had. Subjectively, I liked the look and feel of the Evo more than the Epic. The Evo looks slick and feels dense like a piece of jewelry where as the Epic looks like, well, a plastic phone.
Everything else was a draw. If I did not already have the Evo, I'd have a much harder time deciding which one to walk out of the store with. However, since I already had the Evo, I felt it wasn't worth the hassle to switch phones for a questionably minor change.
Thanks for the run down.
I'm so eager to see what people think of the Epic.
I don't have very high expectations for it, I'm still smitten with my EVO
if you guys own an evo, I don't think there is enough benefit to outweigh the new price unless you need the latest and greatest cpu/gpu. But for someone coming in looking for a new phone, the Epic wins handsdown. I mean there is no real comparison here. I've been using my Vibrant for a month now and literally, every other screen I look at looks like crap. Including the evo. I've used my friends evo and it is laggy as well. But either way, a phone is a phone right?
This is without 2.2 lol. Once 2.2 hits you can expect 3000+ The pic below is not mine but mine hits 2250, every thing/program/etc runs instantly. This so called lag fix is nothing special. Other manufacturers uses it on their phones not sure why Sammy didn't include it from the factory. I don't think any other phone out there in the WOrld ever hit over 2000 lol.
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I am pretty sure Caulk has a screen shot of his hitting 3000+. Apparently it is not hard to mess with the scores and that the way it currently determines the scores is very flawed.
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I've been using my Vibrant for a month now and literally, every other screen I look at looks like crap. Including the evo.
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I use my screen outside!
I just came back from a Sprint store expecting to be absolutely overwhelmed by the Epic screen. I was not. In fact, I was underwhelmed.
I honestly was expecting to be blown away. But I was not. In fact, I think the Evo display looks better! Why?
1. Color seemed to be oversatured
2. The screen is REALLY pixelated. I mean not just a little. More pixelated than an iPhone 3GS, I kid you not. I was shocked. I was expecting it to be really crisp since it's same resolution as the EVO on a screen that's physically smaller. But seriously, why hasn't anyone mentioned this? It's hard to spot pixels on the evo screen, that's absolutely not the case with the Epic. The Evo screen looks like a Retina display compared to the Epic. Go to a Sprint store if you haven't and see it for yourself. Again, i am EXTREMELY surprised no one has mentioned it, even in reviews.
3. White is not white, it's blue.
Everything else was really nice. But I was seriously underwhelmed with the screen.
I went in to look at since still under 30 days. Kept my evo. Screen is really nice but damn that .3 inch is a killer. Also didn't like the bottom buttons. Nice keyboard. Had a tp2 which I loved the keyboard. But I always went back to the screen on it. It looked like the settings for contrast was all the way up. I'm sticking to my evo. Wasn't impressed with the epic. Just the screen. For what I do or what phones are capable to do right now with apps the evo is fine.
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I just came back from a Sprint store expecting to be absolutely overwhelmed by the Epic screen. I was not. In fact, I was underwhelmed.
I honestly was expecting to be blown away. But I was not. In fact, I think the Evo display looks better! Why?...
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After looking at your history of cell phones, I have no choice but to believe you.
lol, nothing but denials. that's just human nature.
I reserved an epic but bought an evo last friday.the evo is smaller edge to edge but has a larger screen.there may be problems with the epic gps and many more roms are currently available for the evo.
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lol, nothing but denials. that's just human nature.
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huh? this makes no sense. People that have the ability to trade in their current phones for the new phone are not doing so because they don't like it.
I don't even have a choice, but I wouldn't get it because of its smaller screen and physical keyboard. I do wish the Evo had a better CPU/GPU combo though.
They say the grass is always greener on the other side of the septic tank.
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lol, nothing but denials. that's just human nature.
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Dude, trust me. If the Epic was better, I would have gotten it. I can change phones like I change clothes. Also, your post has irony written all over it lmao.
I'll have to stroll into a radioshack some time soon to check it out. I've had my Evo for 5 days so I still have time to switch. I've been enjoying my Evo so far though so it'll be hard for Samsung to win me over.
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I'll have to stroll into a radioshack some time soon to check it out. I've had my Evo for 5 days so I still have time to switch. I've been enjoying my Evo so far though so it'll be hard for Samsung to win me over.
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After you do can you please also confirm that the screen is Pixelated as hell? My brother has an iPhone 4 and kept rubbing in how he couldn't see pixels on the Retina display, until I showed my EVO and he couldn't either. lol.
The Epic's screen is so pixelated it actually makes it a deal breaker to me. I am just stunned no one else has mentioned it, it's just so glaring to me.
P.s.: I don't think radioshack stores have working models on display. Just dummies.
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After you do can you please also confirm that the screen is Pixelated as hell? My brother has an iPhone 4 and kept rubbing in how he couldn't see pixels on the Retina display, until I showed my EVO and he couldn't either. lol.
The Epic's screen is so pixelated it actually makes it a deal breaker to me. I am just stunned no one else has mentioned it, it's just so glaring to me.
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You might just be right. I saw a Tmobile Vibrant on demo at RadioShack last week and it was playing a movie and it looked really pixelated. I wasn't sure if it was just the movie or what since it was stuck on some kind of demo mode. I'll report back as soon as I'm able to play around with an Epic.
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After you do can you please also confirm that the screen is Pixelated as hell? My brother has an iPhone 4 and kept rubbing in how he couldn't see pixels on the Retina display, until I showed my EVO and he couldn't either. lol.
The Epic's screen is so pixelated it actually makes it a deal breaker to me. I am just stunned no one else has mentioned it, it's just so glaring to me.
P.s.: I don't think radioshack stores have working models on display. Just dummies.
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I can confirm this. I was eligible to get it today over my evo but I didn't..
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im getting flashbacks
this is a Hero VS Samsung Moment decision all over again. From the Hero's light leakage to the moments blue hue and a-moled screen. Even then the Samsung moment had a better processor. I chose the Samsung moment because of the build quality and regretted the decision. I can assume the Epic wont be treated like a bastard step child. I think more people were happy with the Hero than the Samsung moment. Part of that , i recognize is the fact that Samsung never advertised the Moment. I am going out on a limb and predict that this phone is too large (thickness) for mass appeal. Regardless of how you paint it and how many specs you can throw out, it is not as sexy as that "idevice". I hope i made the right choice purchasing the EVO no more bulging pockets!
Any evo owner anticipating the t-mo g2 though?
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Any evo owner anticipating the t-mo g2 though?
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"Given the rumored 1GHz processor, 3.7-inch display, and 5-megapixel camera, the G2 will have hardware that puts it in the same pack as the Motorola Droid 2 and Samsung Epic 4G."
Article Link: http://www.cnet.com/8301-19736_1-20015229-251.html
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I'm assuming any current Evo owners that dislike the Vibrant/Epic would also dislike the G2, the G2 and Vibrant/Epic seem to be in the same class.
The only two things I would want from the Vibrant/Epic is its CPU/GPU combo and 16GB on-board NAND, everything else is a con to me, compared to the Evo.
1. Processor/GPU.
2. Super Amoled.
3. Touch Screens.
4. Build Quality.
5. Freshness.
6. Great speakers.
I also think Google chose Samsung because of two very big HTC ****ups / backstabs.
1. The Nexus One. A Great Phone...
Except for the touch screen.
This was Google's "baby". And what did HTC do? They shipped all of their devices with faulty touch screens. ALL of them. And people overlook this? Why? This is HUGE. People say Samsung has a bad track record but this dwarfs Samsung's software issues. No I'm not speaking out of my ass, as I do own a Nexus One. I forked 350$ out for one why? Just so I could attempt to deal with the multi-touch issues on my projects.
2. HTC G2. Anti-Root.
No more comment on this. Of course they eventually figured it out, but HTC didn't want you to.
3. ?
Terrible, scratchy speakers on the Nexus One. Even on the G2.
What are your thoughts? I understand some people prefer the metal and hate the plastic. I for one love the aluminum on the iPad and Macbook Airs. However I also like the way the plastic feels on the Vibrant minus the 'creaks'. It feels very smooth in comparison to the G2 for instance.
HTC has been great to me but I am happy Google went with Samsung.
Without the SuperAMOLED I wouldn't even be considering this phone as an upgrade to my Nexus-1
I agree with you OP. I loved the look and feel of the Vibrant, but i kept my N1 because of the "Pure Google" experience. I always thought to myself i wish the Galaxy S phone had Vanilla android, that would be amazing! We will see next week.
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HTC has been great to me but I am happy Google went with Samsung.
Without the SuperAMOLED I wouldn't even be considering this phone as an upgrade to my Nexus-1
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Pretty much everything Anderdroid said we both went from Nexus one to galaxy S phones so have plenty of experience between both hardware of the N1/NS
even without SAMOLED this phone its better than nexus one
better multitouch up to 5 finger registration, better external speaker and sound quality is excellent whether its from external,3.5 and even stereo bluetoooth. Not to mention ridiculously fast mobile GPU
But yea SAMOLED is a huge plus IMO produces better whites doesn't seem to have the bluish/purplish tint that i noticed with my N1 and also better in direct sunlight
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Pretty much everything Anderdroid said we both went from Nexus one to galaxy S phones so have plenty of experience between both hardware of the N1/NS
even without SAMOLED this phone its better than nexus one
better multitouch up to 5 finger registration, better external speaker and sound quality is excellent whether its from external,3.5 and even stereo bluetoooth. Not to mention ridiculously fast mobile GPU
But yea SAMOLED is a huge plus IMO produces better whites doesn't seem to have the bluish/purplish tint that i noticed with my N1 and also better in direct sunlight
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Oh yeah! I forgot about how trashy the G2's and Nexus One's speakers are.
HTC failed on screen (multi-touch plague) and speakers - these 2 things alone, made me hate them.
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1. Processor/GPU.
2. Super Amoled.
3. Touch Screens.
4. Build Quality.
5. Freshness.
6. Great speakers.
I also think Google chose Samsung because of two very big HTC ****ups / backstabs.
1. The Nexus One. A Great Phone...
Except for the touch screen.
This was Google's "baby". And what did HTC do? They shipped all of their devices with faulty touch screens. ALL of them. And people overlook this? Why? This is HUGE. People say Samsung has a bad track record but this dwarfs Samsung's software issues. No I'm not speaking out of my ass, as I do own a Nexus One. I forked 350$ out for one why? Just so I could attempt to deal with the multi-touch issues on my projects.
2. HTC G2. Anti-Root.
No more comment on this. Of course they eventually figured it out, but HTC didn't want you to.
3. ?
Terrible, scratchy speakers on the Nexus One. Even on the G2.
What are your thoughts? I understand some people prefer the metal and hate the plastic. I for one love the aluminum on the iPad and Macbook Airs. However I also like the way the plastic feels on the Vibrant minus the 'creaks'. It feels very smooth in comparison to the G2 for instance.
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I completely agree with you. You said everything.
I was planning to switch my HTC Desire for a Galaxy S, but the Galaxy S looks too much like an iPhone, and out of the box has bad system file, and touchwiz and stuff like that. Now Nexus S is out, with an unique, gorgeous design, I'm probably gonna buy it. Just wanna see some more reviews.
I honestly don't agree that it looks too much like an iPhone... How exactly? Even then I'm not even anti-iPhone so w/e. I think it has a better design than the iPhone.
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I understand some people prefer the metal and hate the plastic. I for one love the aluminum on the iPad and Macbook Airs. However I also like the way the plastic feels on the Vibrant minus the 'creaks'. It feels very smooth in comparison to the G2 for instance.
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You know what i dont understand is why there haven been any 3rd part aluminum battery cover replacement for galaxy S IMO this would be great
This would solve the whole cheap feel not to mention eliminate fingerprints on the back.
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I honestly don't agree that it looks too much like an iPhone... How exactly? Even then I'm not even anti-iPhone so w/e. I think it has a better design than the iPhone.
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I've got an iPhone 3Gs before my Desire, so I know what I'm talking about.
Many of my friends that saw the Galaxy S phone just said : "holy crap what an iPhone-Like!" without knowing anything about the phone.
With the metal around it, a kind of speaker above, a big home button under the screen, makes it look like an iPhone.
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I'm sorry this does like an iPhone(not only the UI).
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I've got an iPhone 3Gs before my Desire, so I know what I'm talking about.
Many of my friends that saw the Galaxy S phone just said : "holy crap what an iPhone-Like!" without knowing anything about the phone.
With the metal around it, a kind of speaker above, a big home button under the screen, makes it look like an iPhone.
I'm sorry this does like an iPhone(not only the UI).
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Well Im glad the nexus s and any us version of the sgs do not look like that. Only the EU I9000 looks like that and has the buttons like that.
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Well Im glad the nexus s and any us version of the sgs do not look like that. Only the EU I9000 looks like that and has the buttons like that.
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The tmobile vibrant looks the same minus the big home button
I agree with everything the OP said and then some:
- super evil NAND lock on devices making the whole "open" in the OS to pretty much heavily locked down. To date Samsung were very relaxed about securing their devices in evil ways.
Better reach of Samsung all over the world. For exmaple, here in India HTC support is pathetic/kind of non existence. They have just started setting up their own service centers. Whereas samsung is pretty establisehd in this part of the world since long time. So I assume samsung has a wider reach.
But would love to see HTC expand their market here. Very few HTC models here
Samsung was probably the better choice.. though, I don't think I appreciate the material they used to make the NS. The N1 may have had a faulty touchscreen (wasn't that the same touch panel used on all the devices HTC made, prior to their more recent ones?).. but at least it didn't have a plastic covered casing that adores fingerprints.
I don't know exactly what the problem is with using plastic, but everyone doesn't like it.. so.. I'm jumping on the bandwagon, lol. In all seriousness though, why exactly is this so horrible?
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Samsung was probably the better choice.. though, I don't think I appreciate the material they used to make the NS. The N1 may have had a faulty touchscreen (wasn't that the same touch panel used on all the devices HTC made, prior to their more recent ones?).. but at least it didn't have a plastic covered casing that adores fingerprints.
I don't know exactly know what the problem is with using plastic, but everyone doesn't like it.. so.. I'm jumping on the bandwagon, lol. In all seriousness though, why exactly is this so horrible?
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Because it feels/looks more cheap then say, N1/Desire/Iphone 4 etc, the look suits more of a mid range phone, then a top end smartphone.
I have to say one thing I loved about the N1 was the teflon (or whatever it was) coating on the battery panel and back/sides of the phone. It would shrug off fingerprints and was quite hard to nick/scratch. Although after almost a year of use, my N1 does show some of the coating peeling off near the headphone jack and also near the USB plug.
SAMOLED has the bluish tints with their whites as well. And the Pentile Matrix arrangement used in SAMOLED results in not so sharp text. S-LCD is better in that way. Obviously overall both screens kind of tie out.
I agree with most of these posts. Vanilla android plus galaxy s is a dream come true.
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SAMOLED has the bluish tints with their whites as well. And the Pentile Matrix arrangement used in SAMOLED results in not so sharp text. S-LCD is better in that way. Obviously overall both screens kind of tie out.
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I hate hearing that because it makes me wonder if all those tests I've done saying I have 20/20 vision are incorrect since I can't ever see what you all are talking about unless i literally press my eyeball up against the screen. And even then, the screen on my Captivate doesn't have any 'matrices' showing.
Or maybe you just go along with what the detractors say without actually checking out a SAMOLED screen
I received my Shift today only to find out it has a crappy washed out screen. I've had some experiences with bad displays on the Mytouch 4G as indicated in this thread so I decided to visit a few Sprint stores and kiosks to check out their displays. They all exhibited washed out screens when viewed from an angle. All the reps I talked to are unaware of a display issue or didn't even notice problem until I pointed it out.
I also noticed that all the EVOs I looked at had a similar problem. I decided to check out a Verizon kiosk and looked at the Droid Incredible, Droid 2, and Droid X - which I believe are all LCD panels - and they all had good to great viewing angles.
I'm wondering if it is an issue similar to the MT4G where HTC was using 2 different panel types. If this is the intended quality of the screen I'm pretty disappointed. Fortunately this phone isn't for me and my girlfriend doesn't mind it. As bad as Samsung is I enjoy the SAMOLED screen on my Vibrant. I think I will pass up on the EVO and the Shift and wait to see what Sprint debuts in the next few months.
I think you have a bit of an unreasonable expectation there. Its a phone. You're supposed to look directly a it.
funny my screen is vibrant and crystal clear. return the thing if it isnt right and quit yer *****ing
Damn what's up with all the hostility?
Can you post some pictures similar to the one in the MT4G thread for comparison? A return is definitely warranted if the screen quality is abnormal.
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Damn what's up with all the hostility?
Can you post some pictures similar to the one in the MT4G thread for comparison? A return is definitely warranted if the screen quality is abnormal.
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Well part of the hostility is that a lot of posts are started here basically just to ***** about something and what not. And people get tired of it.
Also something like this is very subjective because a lot of people wouldn't expect a device like this to be viewable from 120 degrees, because why would you want to view it like that.
If you don't like the display then thats fine, just don't buy the phone and then start to ***** about it.
Personally, I haven't noticed any viewing angle problems, but I'm usually viewing it from the intended viewing angle. (or pretty close).
I do notice some washing out at 120 degree or greater, but I can barely read whats on the screen, so it really doesn't matter.
Perhaps the Epic 4g is the phone for you if you just want to be able to view your phone while laying in bed next to it... (i kid i kid) but seriously perhaps the Epic (Galaxy S line) is the way for you to go.
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I received my Shift today only to find out it has a crappy washed out screen. I've had some experiences with bad displays on the Mytouch 4G as indicated in this thread so I decided to visit a few Sprint stores and kiosks to check out their displays. They all exhibited washed out screens when viewed from an angle. All the reps I talked to are unaware of a display issue or didn't even notice problem until I pointed it out.
I also noticed that all the EVOs I looked at had a similar problem. I decided to check out a Verizon kiosk and looked at the Droid Incredible, Droid 2, and Droid X - which I believe are all LCD panels - and they all had good to great viewing angles.
I'm wondering if it is an issue similar to the MT4G where HTC was using 2 different panel types. If this is the intended quality of the screen I'm pretty disappointed. Fortunately this phone isn't for me and my girlfriend doesn't mind it. As bad as Samsung is I enjoy the SAMOLED screen on my Vibrant. I think I will pass up on the EVO and the Shift and wait to see what Sprint debuts in the next few months.
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*looks around to see who cares* I don't understand the point of this thread. You're complaining about a imaginary problem on a phone you're not even going to use, yet your girlfriend doesn't mind this supposed issue? Most people view the display right smack dab in front of them. Its not a tv, you're not going to be ten feet away from the device trying to use it are you?
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I don't notice any unreasonable amount of washing out (or any at all really) at ANY angle. I imagine if you're standing in sunlight it will, but inside my work, I can pretty much view it at angles up to 180 degrees. Can I read the icons? Of course not, but the screen isn't "washed out" at that angle either.
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I don't notice any unreasonable amount of washing out (or any at all really) at ANY angle. I imagine if you're standing in sunlight it will, but inside my work, I can pretty much view it at angles up to 180 degrees. Can I read the icons? Of course not, but the screen isn't "washed out" at that angle either.
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Can you post a shot similar to this one?
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Well part of the hostility is that a lot of posts are started here basically just to ***** about something and what not. And people get tired of it.
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Don't like it? Don't read it. Problem solved.
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Don't like it? Don't read it. Problem solved.
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well many of us read the posts because we genuinely want to help somebody if theyre having a legit problem so "dont like it dont read it" doesnt exactly work in a forum like this....i agree the hostility should def come down a level but I also agree this is basically a non-issue, at least for 95% of people out there who dont need to look at their phone from any sort of angle....but to be fair to the 5% left it is a legit concern so def no need for any hostility at all really.....
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Don't like it? Don't read it. Problem solved.
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I just don't know what this guy is expecting? He asked why the hostitlity and I told him why.
I didn't think my post was "hostile" in any way, but whatever.
Hope you're able to track down hardware you are happy with OP.
My phone looks perfect from whatever angle I view it at. Meh.
Think the hostility comment was directed at me. The way I see it he has choices. Keep it and complain or take it back and have sprint fix or replace it or dump it on his gf which is what he did.
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Think the hostility comment was directed at me. The way I see it he has choices. Keep it and complain or take it back and have sprint fix or replace it or dump it on his gf which is what he did.
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Lmao.
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My phone looks perfect from whatever angle I view it at. Meh.
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Can you post a picture similar to this (including the HTC clock widget)? I'd like to compare to see if my phone is in fact defective.
I can't post a picture, but my unit looks just like the picture you've posted.
I agree that viewing angles aren't that big a deal on a cell phone. The device is really meant to be looked at directly and from a close range. Hell, this could even be a privacy feature! With this kind of screen, the guy next to you on the bus can't read your emails!
BS aside, I think this is a non-issue for the vast majority of people. If it's a big deal to you, return it. Get a Sammy phone. It's your money. You should get what makes you happy.
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so the "washing out" you're talking about is mainly on white areas on the screen? Mine does that at angles over about 75 degrees, but that's to be expected with most (if not all) LCD panels so it's certainly not unreasonable or even noticeable to me.
Why are you trying to view it at that kind of an angle anyway?
I will mention that I can still read what's on your screen at that angle, even if the colors aren't accurate to what they are viewing straight. Heck, I can read text messages on my phone at nearly 90 degrees. They're obviously off color, but the text shows up just fine.
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so the "washing out" you're talking about is mainly on white areas on the screen? Mine does that at angles over about 75 degrees, but that's to be expected with most (if not all) LCD panels so it's certainly not unreasonable or even noticeable to me.
Why are you trying to view it at that kind of an angle anyway?
I will mention that I can still read what's on your screen at that angle, even if the colors aren't accurate to what they are viewing straight. Heck, I can read text messages on my phone at nearly 90 degrees. They're obviously off color, but the text shows up just fine.
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It doesn't only affect the white areas on the screen, i.e. the numbers in the clock are supposed to be black. Check out the Mytouch 4G thread I linked in my original post, it shows side-by-side comparisons of 2 different panel types on the MT4G - one exhibiting this washed out effect. It's been speculated by developers whom sifted through source code that the "bad" panel is a Sharp panel and the "good" panel is Sony. I'm not savvy on LCD panels so I don't know if this is an inherit trait of LCD technology. I do know that I've seen devices such as the Droid Incredible (LCD version), MT4G with a good panel, and others that do not have this problem. The high quality IPS panels on the iPhones don't exhibit this either.
It's not that I use the phone at these angles. This is just the best way to show the washing out effects.
compared to my htc aria my shift's screen is washed out, the darks arent as dark, the colors aren't as vibrant.
I have friends with regular EVOs (launch day evo's not current) and the screen on those screens are horribly washed out. The evos at the sprint store are much better..
I don't think the shift's screen is at all bad, but there is room for improvement.
Think the mods need to change the name of this thread to
GUIDE: how NOT to view an LCD screen lol
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I created this thread specifically for all the members to talk about the new 2k screen of the LG G3. The screen is the most important feature of the LG G3 and it is what LG brags about the most. For many of us including me, the screen will be the deciding factor of whether we buy the phone or not.How does the new 2k display panel perform in real life situations compared to other high end phone display panels like the Galaxy S5 or HTC One M8? Let's have a nice dedicated thread to the most important feature on this phone.
Ideas to talk about:
•Contrast levels
•How your content looks on it
•Your thoughts of it compared to the previous display you had.
•Any weird issues? (Screen interlacing, ghost issues)
•Color production
•Do you find it nice and worthwhile?
•How are those BLACK LEVELS (Important!)
•Any heat issues with the screen?
•Good high and low brightness levels?
All of the above... Thinking of upgrading from a nexus 5...
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I have seen a couple of reviews that say the max brightness is quite dim. Can someone who owns one confirm if this is true?
The G2 has the best display I have ever had and I don't want to downgrade to a duller screen (I am not bothered about the high res as the G2 has enough res. I want bright and vibrant!
Spewy1 said:
I have seen a couple of reviews that say the max brightness is quite dim. Can someone who owns one confirm if this is true?
The G2 has the best display I have ever had and I don't want to downgrade to a duller screen (I am not bothered about the high res as the G2 has enough res. I want bright and vibrant!
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Go to s5 ^^ it's too bright and too vibrant :laugh: (^^)
And ffs please, reviewers, don't simply declare that you can't distinguish individual pixels on 1080p as well as 2k and then conclude from that that the extra resolution doesn't make a difference. The question is: how do you subjectively experience visual items in 2k vs. 1080p--images, text, UI items, etc.. Past 325 dpi, a pixel is not an item, so it's irrelevant that you can't see one. Tons of those online reviews provide what the reviewer thinks their impression of the screen must be instead of the reviewer providing their true impression.
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Go to s5 ^^ it's too bright and too vibrant :laugh: (^^)
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I don't like the s5. Various reasons but mainly the cover over the charging port and overall design.
I love my g2 but need more memory (64gb minimum). I am worried about the screen on the g3 but the reviewers all focus on the resolution but I want to hear from real users about the real world experience of the screen.
Many thanks in advance for any input from owners of the phone.
Great Arstechica review as usual
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/
That cover on the S5 (my wife has one), is for water proofing and easily ripped off.
Personally, I could use a screen with less pixels and longer screen-on time. I consider the screen resolution to be a minus. My preference is less pixels and make it a 6", like the HTC One Max I just returned after a week.
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Great Arstechica review as usual
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/
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Can't agree with you there. They did the same move as all the other reviewers where they presume that the inability to distinguish individual pixels automatically means people can't see any overall difference in image quality:
Even at point-blank range, it's hard to resolve a single pixel. 1080p screens are also beautiful, though, and when looking at the two, side-by-side, we aren't convinced the jump to 1440p is necessary. More pixels only matter if you can see them, and on a ~5-inch device, it's almost impossible to tell the difference between a 1080p screen and the 1440p screen of the G3.
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That's why I asked above that any reviewers here avoid that particular groupthink and tell us how they actually experience 2k vs. 1080p.
Jimmy34742 said:
Can't agree with you there. They did the same move as all the other reviewers where they presume that the inability to distinguish individual pixels automatically means people can't see any overall difference in image quality:
That's why I asked above that any reviewers here avoid that particular groupthink and tell us how they actually experience 2k vs. 1080p.
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I think the most important caveat is that hardly any apps will be optimized for 2k display when the phone finally arrives.
HAving said that, kind of hard to judge don't you think?
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
hamad138 said:
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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How can you?
theraker007 said:
I think the most important caveat is that hardly any apps will be optimized for 2k display when the phone finally arrives.
HAving said that, kind of hard to judge don't you think?
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That's logical. But so is the idea that the human eye can't distinguish pixels at a density greater than 326dpi. So, yeah, it comes down to subjective judgment calls. In that case, I'm interested in the subjective point of view of people who actually have one of these devices and their actual experience. We already know how do deduce logically what everyone's experience must be, and all the reviews I've read only do that. Images and text may appear sharper at a given distance from the eye in a way unrelated to whether or not you can distinguish an individual pixel.
The LG G3 has the best smartphone display I've seen: It's sharp, but it's also bright and has great color. The colors don't pop quite as much as on some of the better SuperAMOLED screens I've seen (such as on the just-announced Samsung Galaxy Tab S), but the sharpness is off the charts.
Comparing the G3's display to the one on the HTC One M8 (my current favorite Android phone), I felt the LG's was just as sharp, and a few details — such as drop shadows in Evernote — stood out slightly more. And even though colors weren't as vivid as on the HTC, the G3 had more natural skin tones
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From Mashable's review. Everyone's eyes are different I guess.
Contrast was superb. Black text on white background — one of the most essential things a smartphone, or any display, needs to get right — really stood out. The ultra-sharp characters nearly jumped off the screen, and I couldn't discern individual pixels, no matter how close I put my eye to the screen.
So the LG G3's Quad HD display is more than just hype. But only a bit. There's nothing wrong with the HTC One M8's screen — or the Samsung Galaxy S5's or the iPhone 5S's for that matter. They're still mighty sharp, and can display great images, just not quite as sharply or as impressively as the LG G3.
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hamad138 said:
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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I truly hope that the screen is great on this phone but I can't wait any longer and have just ordered an S5. I have waited for all the flagships to come out this year and was truly hoping that the G3 would be the one. Two of the most important things to me are brightness and battery life and I'm worried that with the G3 I would end up having the brightness cranked all the time and would have poor battery life as a result. Really wanted to try LG this time but lost my nerve
Tapped it!
hamad138 said:
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Seriously? Those are much more important then resolution to improve upon.
helikido said:
Seriously? Those are much more important then resolution to improve upon.
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yes but not for marketing.
I'm most concerned with the viewing angles, black levels, contrast, and color accuracy. I'm definitely getting the G3 but I really don't want to have to play the panel lottery. I'd prefer a warmer display over a cooler display - as long as it's not noticeably pink/green/blue, I'm fine. A slight yellow/orange tint is okay, but obviously a calibrated display would be the best. My black Nexus 5's viewing angles aren't great, with the screen washing out at 30+ degree angle. My buddy's white Nexus 5 seems to have better viewing angles, so I'm not sure what the deal is. I'm pretty confident in LG's ability to produce good displays -- they pretty much made this phone just to show off their new display.
Actually, I'm now concerned about the narrowness of the bezel. Yes, it's a cool feature, and everyone dreams of a bezel-less phone, but I already have problems due to the narrowness of my S4's bezel. When I'm holding my phone for an extended time, referring to notes while speaking to people, my grip often gets interpreted by the system as a touch and hold. That pops up a dialog that I have to dismiss, and it's really obtrusive in real time situations. Sure, I could be more careful, but it's just too easy to make that problem happen during normal usage. It's not like I have big fat hands or a weird grip or anything. I've already been thinking that when we finally get bezel-free phones, there will have to be utilities to create a non-reactive border of pixels in a user-specified width, or else the user will accidentally be popping things up all over the place. At present, though, I think the G3's large size and tiny bezel are actually going to make it difficult to use the way I want to use it even though it's hardly bigger than my S4. You never know until you actually use it for a few days and try to adapt, but there's no way to do that without buying it, which I'm now hesitant to do.
You're holding it wrong ☺
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