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Freezing in WinMo messaging

Anybody have this happen to them all the time?
When I exit a mesage, the message list will usually freeze for maybe 3-5 minutes
Very annoying.
Fix anywhere?

Anyone?

Can't say I've had this problem, sorrry.

Americanmetal said:
Anybody have this happen to them all the time?
When I exit a mesage, the message list will usually freeze for maybe 3-5 minutes
Very annoying.
Fix anywhere?
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yeah, that happens to me too--my best guess root-cause is that it's due to the fact that I have TONS of text messages that I've been keeping over the years.
I always notice that it's worse right after I've flashed my phone and restored my data. I think this is because it's re-threading my messages.
I don't have any fixes or work-arounds, but perhaps my theory might inspire one!

Americanmetal said:
Anybody have this happen to them all the time?
When I exit a mesage, the message list will usually freeze for maybe 3-5 minutes
Very annoying.
Fix anywhere?
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Yes, annoying. I delete the thread of messages I have with someone that I notice takes a while to close and then it's speedy again. This is a frustrating solution because you can't keep much of a history, but at least it speeds thigns up a bit.

I have the same problem, though it doesn't last for 3-5 minutes, thankfully. According to my MyPhone page, I have 1174 messages. This doesn't sound like very many to me.
I notice in Task Manager that SMS takes over 2 MB. Maybe this is part of the reason for the sluggishness?
Another (minor) annoyance is that, in the Windows SMS app (I don't use Touch Flow), when I tap "reply" to a text, the program will take time to thread the messages from that sender and then load the SIP (I use Swype currently). Next, the SIP goes away and I'm left with the cursor at the bottom of the screen in a blank area for my reply. I have to reactivate the SIP and wait for the screen to redraw again before I can begin typing. Seems like weird behavior.

I had this issue and identified it to the threader feature in 6.5 when you have large amounts of messages, just disable threader feature under settings menu and issue will go away..

wildman said:
I had this issue and identified it to the threader feature in 6.5 when you have large amounts of messages, just disable threader feature under settings menu and issue will go away..
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or you can just use MyPhone to archive some messages... again, when you add or subtract a large amount of data from your sms database, your phone will take some time to re-thread all your messages.
Eventually, when all the messages are threaded, you won't experience the slow-down.
I think this is LESS about WinMo, and MORE due to the fact that we really, really need Snapdragon processors

Newest ROM fixes this problem. At least thus far! Yay.

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Newest ROM fixes this problem. At least thus far! Yay.
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What newest ROM are you referring to???

Well, the "new" rom from VZW. It's now official from VZW. http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=136&cid=1&mid=364&carrier=Verizon Wireless

has anyone tried this "new" rom from VZW?

Replying SMS lag.. (Slow loading of text messages)

Hi all,
I've just got my HD2 this morning. I'm having a problem when trying to create an SMS by replying from the text messages tab.
This particular contact has around 500 messages and pressing 'reply' takes more than 20 seconds before even the onscreen keyboard to load for me to type the reply. I've tried other contacts with less messages, whilst it is quick, there is still a noticeable lag to load all of the previous messages.
Is anyone else having this problem?

Yes. The contacts/text messaging app seems to suffer from a lot of slowdown. I also have the feeling it's linked to the number of messages for each contact.
Saving a contact after editing can be slow as well.

I did a bit of a search...looks like this is a problem with the HTC messaging app in Manila 2.5 ..... sigh........ such a fundamental problem!

Too many people complain about SMS issues. SMS functionality should be one of the very first tests you do to a modern mobile device during Q.A.
At least its still good to know that I'll be able to speak with it.

Same here. Too slow..

Here the same problem. Can somebody make a fix for it please?

Delete all the SMS history with the contact who is taking long for the keyboard to load up.
The reason for this slowdown is that it is loading all your SMS messages with that contact, both sent and received. Hence it takes ages to load up.
1. Go to the SMS screen for your slow-loading contact, wait for it to load
2. Press 'Menu'
3. Press 'Delete Messages'
4. Press 'Menu'
5. Press 'Select All'
6. Press 'Done'

Where is the snapdragon?
man I need to get this Phone,but this seems to be the first real let down ,I use lots of SMS and to me deleting is not an option.
Must be found a work around.

HTC definately rushed this ROM.
The calendar bug, the spelling mistake in the connections settings, apparently the speed is slower than the test ROMs, and now this.

Well the only thing that lags with Touch HD on wm6.5 with Manila 2.5 is the HTC SMS.. That what made be believe I should upgrade my device to HD2. Now that I see that the device is also lagging with a dozen of SMSs... Thanks but I will not buy it unless a solution is found. I have more than 2500 work SMS all business related and I CANT FIND A REASON TO DELETE IT.
DIDNT THEY TRY THE DEVICE BEFORE SELLING IT??
EVEN A NOKIA 3310 CAN STORE 500+ SMS !!

Yes a nokia can store that many text, but they arent in a chat type session, thats why it takes so long because it loads all of them in one hit.

loomx said:
Yes a nokia can store that many text, but they arent in a chat type session, thats why it takes so long because it loads all of them in one hit.
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Even with Thread mode off and normal SMS display, it is very slow. Try restoring 200 SMS, it will takes 10 mins. Re-access your SMS menu, you will still lag as hell.
Cannot forgive them for making such a mistake.

was going to get it today
My non HTC device loaded with + 250 messages opens the SMS app.in 2 sec. Replying and bringing up the keyboard is almost from instantaneous to 1 sec,but I need to get a WM phone.
Just one question though:
Will this lag still happen if you Disable the HTC Sence UI and went with the WM 6.5 interface?

I've found a workaround for now..
Use the HTC Messaging app in traditional mode. From there, you could reply SMSes using the non-threaded mode. Once it loads, it's pretty quick to open again.
Still..the major lag is still there when you open a contact with many text messages....this is very dissapointing and could even be a dealbreaker for a few people.
Even my TD1 with Manila 2.1 doesn't have this problem.

hagba said:
Will this lag still happen if you Disable the HTC Sence UI and went with the WM 6.5 interface?
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NO! the problem it's just in senseUI

In the meantime, let your providers and htc know (mail). htc need to release a proper fix for this.

Manila 2.1 on my TP2 did`t have this problem at all.
To be honest .... 2.5 Manila messaging is crap!

I know this isn't an ideal solution, but it'll do for me (for now), and I'm sure some others will be happy enough with it as a temporary fix.
Use Microsoft MyPhone to get all your texts uploaded and then archive them using the web interface. You can then delete as many as you like off the phone and still be happy that you've got a backup online.
Not a solution, but a reasonable workround for now.
Edit: I can confirm that this works. I went to the MyPhone web interface and archived all my text messages. Then I synched from my mobile and it deleted all the local texts that I had archived (in this case, all of them). I can now edit and select contacts with only a slight lag. It's still a crap amount of lag for such a fast phone, but it's a lot better.

They should do like on the iPhone: when you chat with a contact, you get the last 10-15 messages of the thread. If you want to read older messages you press a button on top of the thread that will then show all the others.

+1!! I do think too that it's the obvious solution!!!! Why the hello do HTC's SMS apps display the full thread of SMS's on their app, it's pretty much useless, and causes lags!!! The last 10 sms's like in Outlokk or on the iPhone is enough!
I don't know what the hell HTC's devs are thinking sometimes....

lower amount of sms loaded while in contact sms view?

hey i use the sms tab at contacts to write and view sms but i have a few people where i have quite an amount of messages and everytime i want to write a sms i have to wait till all the messages are loaded in the conversation till i can start writing
is there a registry tweak to lower the amount which is loaded or something?
i searched the leo forums but i didn't find anything usefull!

endursa said:
hey i use the sms tap at contacts to write and view sms but i have a few people where i have quite an amount of messages and everytime i want to write a sms i have to wait till all the messages are loaded in the conversation till i can start writing
is there a registry tweak to lower the amount which is loaded or something?
i searched the leo forums but i didn't find anything usefull!
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I also have this problem, the easy way to solve it is to delete all ur messages at the end of the day, but you shouldnt have to!
Anyone have any ideas

I Wrote this before: don't compromise. a device this powerful can definitely handle massive amount of text messages and display them on the fly.
just write about it to HTC support to put more pressure on them for solving this issue.

is it that hard to just show the last 25 massages and archive the older ones? even apple got it right -.-
maybe someone could write a tweak for this reason ? for me it's a major issue

shu8i said:
is it that hard to just show the last 25 massages and archive the older ones? even apple got it right -.-
maybe someone could write a tweak for this reason ? for me it's a major issue
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Well thats what windows mobile's sms client does but HTC didnt want to follow suit

Large SMS History takes a log time to load

I'm sure I'm not the only one having this issue and just wanted to know you thoughts...
My SMS threads with 400+ are really starting to take a while to open, one of my threads with 600+ takes over 8 seconds before it shows up after I select it (just shows the loading message) and then another 3 - 6 seconds before I can click on the message to reply... Other than deleting the thread, does anyone else know how to resolve this? I find it hard to believe that a 1GHz processor can't handle a thread of 600 messages...
By the way, I have HTX Sense turnes off, I'm running a stock HTC non animated background, only 3 widgets that don't do much, and nothing running in the background (by using Advanced Task Killer @ Fast Reboot).
Thanks You'all for your help!
Rob

Try Handcent SMS, it is almost never slow for me, I have over 2000 messages between me and my wife.

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eddie90000 said:
Try Handcent SMS, it is almost never slow for me, I have over 2000 messages between me and my wife.
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I just want to say thanks- I've used this program before, but never noticed its superiority until now... it really is much faster and better in every way- now I just gotta figure out how to remove the stock SMS notification so I'm not clearing two notifications for each SMS...
Thanks Again,
Rob

Try Handcent SMS, it is almost never slow for me, I have over 2000 messages between me and my wife.
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I just want to say thanks- I've used this program before, but never noticed its superiority until now... it really is much faster and better in every way- now I just gotta figure out how to remove the stock SMS notification so I'm not clearing two notifications for each SMS...
Thanks Again,
Rob
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Just open the stock messaging app, hit menu, settings, disable notifications.

Don't take this wrong - but why would you need/want/desire to keep 2000 text messages. Are you in a legal battle and need to document everything?

Keeping messages can come in handy, but I prefer to clear out occasionally, so I use SMSBackup (free app) and it copies all my messages to a folder in my GMail account, so I can still search them if I need to get a hold of something in the history. Not to mention the added plus of looking through my messages from a desktop when I want to find a number or address..

SMS messages overloading HD2

Hi there.
I've had problems with my HD2 since I got it shortly after release last year. I've upgraded it to the latest ROM 1.66 and I still *had* problems with extreme sluggishness and freezing. "Services.exe" was a program that often got problems. I also had the "sleep of death" syndrome.
After I updated it and did a hard-reset I used PIMbackup to backup my contacts, SMS messages, appointments and such. No programs were restored. It still had the same problems. So I tried different things, but with no luck, until I did a hard-reset and restored everything except for my SMS messages. There were about 1600 of them, which I personally think is not that many. Now it runs fine, no freezing nor sluggishness.
So my question is, is it normal for an expensive smart phone like this to get that slow and unstable just by having a little too many SMS messages?
Thanks in advance.
/Zhibbhi

Zhibbhi said:
Hi there.
I've had problems with my HD2 since I got it shortly after release last year. I've upgraded it to the latest ROM 1.66 and I still *had* problems with extreme sluggishness and freezing. "Services.exe" was a program that often got problems. I also had the "sleep of death" syndrome.
After I updated it and did a hard-reset I used PIMbackup to backup my contacts, SMS messages, appointments and such. No programs were restored. It still had the same problems. So I tried different things, but with no luck, until I did a hard-reset and restored everything except for my SMS messages. There were about 1600 of them, which I personally think is not that many. Now it runs fine, no freezing nor sluggishness.
So my question is, is it normal for an expensive smart phone like this to get that slow and unstable just by having a little too many SMS messages?
Thanks in advance.
/Zhibbhi
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i've just gone an deleted 5000 SMS's and i was not having any problems with slowness.
I just deleted them for a bit of house keeping, thats all.

i weekly take backup of sms's using pimbackup. if i dont clear the sms then it will b very difficult to text and open the application. it takes around 10-15 seconds to open a conversation thread with mor than 2000 sms's and around 8-10 seconds for 200-700 sms.
I weekly send around 4-5000 sms's and this fone have only one BAD point.. that is Messaging client.

mon_money said:
i weekly take backup of sms's using pimbackup. if i dont clear the sms then it will b very difficult to text and open the application. it takes around 10-15 seconds to open a conversation thread with mor than 2000 sms's and around 8-10 seconds for 200-700 sms.
I weekly send around 4-5000 sms's and this fone have only one BAD point.. that is Messaging client.
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is that using the HTC Messaging client? or WM SMS?

djchubbs said:
i've just gone an deleted 5000 SMS's and i was not having any problems with slowness.
I just deleted them for a bit of house keeping, thats all.
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So if you can have triple the amount of text messages than me, that must mean that there is something wrong with my phone, right?
If I send it to repair, they'll probably just hard-reset it, take a quick test on it, and sent it back saying they didn't find any problems on it. Isn't that right?

Zhibbhi said:
So if you can have triple the amount of text messages than me, that must mean that there is something wrong with my phone, right?
If I send it to repair, they'll probably just hard-reset it, take a quick test on it, and sent it back saying they didn't find any problems on it. Isn't that right?
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What messaging client are you using? HTC or WM?

I use the HTC messaging client.

Zhibbhi said:
I use the HTC messaging client.
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thats may be why, i dont, i found with HTC messaging client that with as little as 100 sms in my inbox the client would lag, so i reverted to WM messaging client and runs like a dream, on its not the best looking client but still, does the job as they say.

Ah, ok. Where can I find the WM client?
Thanks for your help!

im not 100% sure but i think there shuold be a way of dissabling HTC client and it will default to WM SMS, maybe someone else could shed some light on this

Nevermind, found it =)
A million thanks for your help djchubbs! =D

Zhibbhi said:
Nevermind, found it =)
A million thanks for your help djchubbs! =D
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no problem, like i said, its doesnt look great but performance wise you should notice the difference.