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How do I change my keyboard?

Hello,
I've been struggling with my keyboard settings since I got my Touch HD. At first, it was a complete QWERTY keyboard. I wanted to change it to a normal keyboard, like on a regular cellphone. I didn't know how to do this. But suddenly, without knowing what the hell I was doing, I accidentally got the keyboard to change. But now my problem is... Well, you know the layout is as such:
1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9
Shift 0 Symbol
...I have two problems with this. The first is: I can't type any letters, even if I hold the keys down, so basically, I can't text message to anyone. The second problem is that I have no idea how to change it back. If you could just tell me how to change keyboards, AND how to make the regular cellphone keyboard layout WORK (I have chubby fingers), I'd be really, really grateful.
Thank you for your time.
EDIT:
Oh. I see. How irritating. How am I supposed to know that there are actually two buttons in the center button? Oh well. This still doesn't change my ABC / Numeric problem.

Hi Alfa Jez
Assuming that you have not tweaked your phone in anyway.
There are two ways to change the keyboard settings on your phone.
First, is to go to Settings and within settings your Windows menu option (press window flag top left hand corner of the screen, settings is the second from bottom menu item) and then it gives the option of "Input" showing a keyboard and from there it gives you the option to set your "Input Method" as well as other options on word completion etc.
Secondly, you should be able to change the input settings directly from the middle bottom of your screen once your virtual keyboard has been activated. There is a little up arrow which if you press should give you the option of "Touch Input Settings".
Hope this helps. This information is in the manual.
Best wishes
Kaid

Thank you for taking the time to reply, but I'm afraid this doesn't help me. What you've told me so far, I already know.
Although, I have tweaked my phone with HD Tweak. But no big changes at all.

What does your keyboard look like right now?
Are you stuck on a number-only pad or symbols-only pad or do you see letters on the keys?
Here are some pictures. Tell us which one is the one you have right now.
You should be able to switch through these pads via Sym, 123, ABC keys in the different keypads. You also see that the symbols keypad has 13 different pads to scroll through and it can be "locked" (lock key). That causes it to stay there after pressing different keys. When unlocked, it automatically goes to the normal letters/numbers pad after you have entered one symbol.

Well, my problem is that, even though I have the one with the letters, (of course, it's needed to type letters) I can only type numbers. If you see my problem. I can see the letters and the number, but it seems only to want to use the numbers. Even if I hold the keys down, no letters appear.

Hmm, if you what you have is the second picture above and yet you can only type numbers, then I don't really know what to do. On that screen I only get the numbers if I tap and hold for a second. A quick tap gets me the letters.
Maybe someone else might know what is wrong there.
Did this start recently or have you always had that problem on your HD? Or did it start after you installed a certain program or made some kind of registry change?

Alpha Jez said:
Thank you for taking the time to reply, but I'm afraid this doesn't help me. What you've told me so far, I already know.
Although, I have tweaked my phone with HD Tweak. But no big changes at all.
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I suppose you turned on T9 in HD tweak? If so, turn it off, then soft reset. This problem is being brought up on an almost daily basis.......

michi123 said:
I suppose you turned on T9 in HD tweak? If so, turn it off, then soft reset. This problem is being brought up on an almost daily basis.......
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Did turn it on, yes. But I read other people having the same problem, and they were also told to turn off T9, so I tried that as well. Haven't tried soft resetting, though. (Soft resetting = Turn off, and back on, right? ) Will do!
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After soft resetting, it worked! Thanks to both of you, I'm jumpin' up and down as we speak. ^^

Glad it worked. Just a word of caution: as you don´t seem too familiar with windows mobile (soft reset is one of the most used word/actions as it´s still windows...) just be careful when using different kinds of tweaks (HD tweak, advanced config) or modifying the registry directly. Don´t just change/turn on/off something because it sounds good. If you don´t know what you are doing it can mess up your device real bad......
Been there, done that......

I'll be cautious, and try to control my curiosity. ^^

Are you still jumping up and down? Or has the excitement worn off?
I'm glad it works now.

Annoying problem whilst typing SMS

Hello,
I currently use the phone keypad to type my messages, and sometimes after some words, when I press space it doesnt actually do a space. any ideas on what this could be, its really annoying when I look back and theres loads of words that are stuck together!
Thanks in advance.

Yes, I have a same problem, is there any solution for this?

Anybody help? Its really annoying

glad its not just me, i tryed turning off T9 etc.. but still does it

Yeah here also with a NLD rom. I need to push the spacebar somethings 2 times if I want a space in my text message.
I hope htc will fix it

Same problem here, I thought it was me not pushing it right

did you calibrate your screen?
before I calibrated my screen, I felt I have to skew my taps a bit (maybe its also an illusion with the glass touch screen's thickness when the actual image is behind 1-2 mm of glass) to touch the right keys. after calibration it seems better.

I find what is problem. When a tiny line is under letters, when i push space and then another letter, cursor go back. I don't know how to turn off this option and what is it for. Does anyone have solution? t9 is off in mu case and i use phone keypad.

kajzer223 said:
I find what is problem. When a tiny line is under letters, when i push space and then another letter, cursor go back. I don't know how to turn off this option and what is it for. Does anyone have solution? t9 is off in mu case and i use phone keypad.
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you are right, the cursor does go back but im not sure how to stop it.
It is driving me insane because it takes me a long time to type a message now

its unusual that more people are not reporting this issue, is it a problem just with our devices, or maybe others are not concerned by this or unaware

Im having the same problem. When I had another ROM installed the keyboard had a bigger spacebar, but I went back to manila 2.1 and now it has the smaller one again...
Isnt there a way to alter the size of the spacebar in manila 2.1?

This is a common issue with XT9.
I suggest trying a different SIP and disabling all other settings other than ABC mode.

Wierd message cancel thing

Hi there just wondering if anyone had/has this problem and knows how to fix it. Basically when i go to reply to a text message by clicking on it (from inside TouchFlo) the keyboard appears, then dissapears. When i click on the box to type, the keyboard comes up, then jumps back down. I have to press the 'Keyboard' button when the keyboard is down (to bring it up) then type somthing (which doesn't appear) and then press space...to even start typing anything. It's really odd, i've tried re-flashing both stock and a few other ROM's...same wierd problem...anyone?
THANKS!

I also have the same problem. If i double tap a message from within touchflo there is no problem but if i tap it once i have the keyboard problem. It has been bugging me for a while as well! Although it's not major, if anyone has a fix it would be much appreciated.

haha it's really annoying the double clicking things doesnt work for me...anyone got a fix? also what rom are you running? thanks

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talking to some of my friends, i've realised that this happens on general windows mobile, not just this phone, therefore i will re-post in order to gain more publicity. Thanks

Fortunately for me, everything is working fine, as in the manuals, even after using this set for over a year now. When I click "reply" from within TF, it automatically gives a text/message typing area and a keyboard area at the bottom half which stays there. I can drop the keyboard down (and up) by tapping (once) the keyboard icon at the bottom centre. no problem.

ha! it's lucky for some! What ROM are you using? Thanks

drakhra said:
ha! it's lucky for some! What ROM are you using? Thanks
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Stock ROM ver: 1.40.707.2 (21259) date 24/10/08

hi just wondering if anyone has managed to fix this, it is getting REALLY annoying now ahha thanks

problem with finger keyboard

hey
i installed finger keyboard
and it really is very nice
but sometimes i have a problem with
sometimes when i want to write a message or bring up the keyboard to scroll with the direction it doesn't appear and seems to be stuck
and then i have to rebbot the phone for it to work
any thoughts , solutions ?

Hello,
If you are having this problem in particular when you are writing SMS then it might well be linked to the SMS problem already talked about exhaustively on here. There is a partial solution for this in the Hints & Tips thread.
If it's not that then it might just be worth your while reinstalling finger keyboard and see if that helps. Another alternative might be to install the Swype keyboard (works well on my device) and see if that solves the problem.
Work through this step by step and see if any of the suggestions help.
Cheers
WB

well it's not just in the SMS
it also happened in the file browser when i wanted to scroll down with keyboard keys
i did reinstall it , so it seems it didn't help
as for the swipe keyboard
that's a problem since i need hebrew in my keyboard
btw an unrelated question
i saw in the tips thread that many times you need to change the registry keys
how do i do that in this device ?
thanks

I had problems typing the good letters on the keyboard. Always a bit out of line it seemd. Then i Aligned my screen again, and now its working much better. Maybe give it a try, it improved my typingspeed.
Kor

kor kuiper said:
I had problems typing the good letters on the keyboard. Always a bit out of line it seemd. Then i Aligned my screen again, and now its working much better. Maybe give it a try, it improved my typingspeed.
Kor
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How do you align your screen?
Also, I keep reading threads about different keyboards, is that just down to personal preference or do some really work better than others? I've not had a problem with the one that's already on the HD2 to be honest,

Look here
settingstab, then push menu , extra`s(more), system, screen.
There you can align your screen by pushing 5 positions on your screen
Grtz
kor

kor kuiper said:
Look here
settingstab, then push menu , extra`s(more), system, screen.
There you can align your screen by pushing 5 positions on your screen
Grtz
kor
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i don't actually have problems with the typing part
i'll try to explain
when you go to the sms section or filer browser you can see the finger keyboard logo in middle-bottom of the screen
and if you want to use it , you press that logo\button and the keyboard comes up
well sometimes no matter how much time you press ( or where )
it doesn't come up

Ok , a different problem.
A litle thing i sometimes try.
Because the screen is capacitive, when i don`t get a knob to work i wet my finger a litle bit. My skin is normaly dry. When it is "wetter" is seems to react better.
There is a thread about the keyboards sensitivity that could solve that issue.
After BSBTweaks 1.6 i don`t have problems.
With sms install the latest htc patch, it speeds up things in sms, where it looks the screen doesnt react but`it was the progres in the background stil runnning...
Just try, doesn`t cos anything
kk

kor kuiper said:
Ok , a different problem.
A litle thing i sometimes try.
Because the screen is capacitive, when i don`t get a knob to work i wet my finger a litle bit. My skin is normaly dry. When it is "wetter" is seems to react better.
There is a thread about the keyboards sensitivity that could solve that issue.
After BSBTweaks 1.6 i don`t have problems.
With sms install the latest htc patch, it speeds up things in sms, where it looks the screen doesnt react but`it was the progres in the background stil runnning...
Just try, doesn`t cos anything
kk
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sorry for the late response
right now everything seems to be ok , the keyboard works fine
i did find some other problem in it though
i have 2 languages in it : hebrew and english
now when i press the lng button it does switch between the 2 of them
however it doesnt switch to digits
if i go to the finger settings and switch the lng button from nextlayout/digits to digits/nextlayout then when i press lng button it switches from one of the languages to digits but not to the second language

Master-D said:
sorry for the late response
right now everything seems to be ok , the keyboard works fine
i did find some other problem in it though
i have 2 languages in it : hebrew and english
now when i press the lng button it does switch between the 2 of them
however it doesnt switch to digits
if i go to the finger settings and switch the lng button from nextlayout/digits to digits/nextlayout then when i press lng button it switches from one of the languages to digits but not to the second language
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anyone ? ...............

Master-D said:
anyone ? ...............
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Not that one.
I've got a different one, that's, when switching to the second language, the vertical space between rows increases, and the half bottom part of the lower character row dissapears. Using Eng and Spa.
It's just me?
Regards.

Keyboard Configuration

I'm trying to understand why during sms or email typing I do a lot of typing errors. I saw that so many times I touch the keys on the on screen keyboard in the right place but I release it in the wrong one. So I can see there is a little movement of my hand and thinger that causes keyboard misunderstanding.
I tried a lot of tweaks but what I wantto try now is the possibility to configure the oem htc on screen keyboard to accept keys on press and not on release.
Can anyone help me finding registry tweaks about?
thank you!

Bisis said:
I'm trying to understand why during sms or email typing I do a lot of typing errors. I saw that so many times I touch the keys on the on screen keyboard in the right place but I release it in the wrong one. So I can see there is a little movement of my hand and thinger that causes keyboard misunderstanding.
I tried a lot of tweaks but what I wantto try now is the possibility to configure the oem htc on screen keyboard to accept keys on press and not on release.
Can anyone help me finding registry tweaks about?
thank you!
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It needs to accept on release because a long press has a different effect to a short one.
I know what you're saying, and I sympathize. I had problems at first, but I simply changed my typing style to suit the screen and now I'm very fast, and only make as many mistakes as I would on a real keyboard. Just get used to hitting the keyboard and lifting your finger, without moving it on the screen. It works - you just have to get used to it. It doesn't take long

johncmolyneux said:
It needs to accept on release because a long press has a different effect to a short one.
I know what you're saying, and I sympathize. I had problems at first, but I simply changed my typing style to suit the screen and now I'm very fast, and only make as many mistakes as I would on a real keyboard. Just get used to hitting the keyboard and lifting your finger, without moving it on the screen. It works - you just have to get used to it. It doesn't take long
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Yes I know this. But testing can be a good starting point.
I can also imagine that a "new keyboard" can accept keyboard on press and change pressed keys if I don't move my finger for a long time. If I don't remember bad I already saw a keyboard that works in this way... if I press a key it writes the key, then if I don't remove the finger from that key it changes the pressed key with the additional one.
So, there is not any way to change working way?

I think the thing is that if you can't get used to the HTC keyboard, just use another SIP if a good one is available, or wait until someone makes a new one...
The one in opera mini beta 5 seems good, would be great ig they could make a similar one system-wide...

kilrah said:
I think the thing is that if you can't get used to the HTC keyboard, just use another SIP if a good one is available, or wait until someone makes a new one...
The one in opera mini beta 5 seems good, would be great ig they could make a similar one system-wide...
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Yeah, there's plenty of alternative ones out there. Fingerkeyboard, for example, seems very popular.

johncmolyneux said:
Yeah, there's plenty of alternative ones out there. Fingerkeyboard, for example, seems very popular.
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I used FingerKeyboard a lot with Blackstone but with Leo I don't like it so much... I prefer to have bigger keys and HTC sense integration with the original keyboard.
The problem to change keyboard is also this one.. you can loose some integrations.
So all of you can confirm me that original keyboard is not modificable? So there are not registry configurations?

is there any help for my request?

Hit instead of release !
I do agree with you. I have tried the keyboard on the iPhone a lot, and I don't think anyone would disagree that it is much better. And the only difference is like you say that the iPhone registers where you hit the screen, instead of where you release the screen. Fast typing means you have to move your finger sideways all the time. Can it be so hard to make a keyboard that registers hit instead of release ?
Have tried several keyboards to the LEO, including Fingerkeyoard, but they all seem to have the same problem when used on the LEO.
It's a shame since the rest of the phone is genious. Let us hope someone who is capable of modifying or rewrite a complete keyboard take the challenge.

I'm asking this just from when I was using Blackstone but it seems that developers don't like to make keyboard sensible to press and not release.
Please help us!