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Which SGS has all the components?

After reading through this forum on many many topics, it came to my attention that localized version of SGS for America (USA/Canada) seems to have missing "features" like camera/flash, smaller storage, but they have the addition of the Gyroscope, where the international version I9000 has everything but the Gyroscope, but is compensated by the other sensors which the I9000 actually has 4 sensor instead of 6...
So, in the end I'm still not sure which model is better, but it'll be good to know.
Does anyone have a side by side comparison list of the different sub models for the SGS ?
I've already ordered the European/Asian I9000 version, I'm quite sure it's the best one out there, however i might be wrong, specially the CDMA sprint version has the Keyboard/4G that non of the other versions have.
4G is not a biggie as the North American infrastructure doesn't even support it yet, but having a Keyboard is a huge bonus, but i'm sure it'll weight more.
Why can't we just have it all in one single version?

The Epic 4G is the ONLY model that has all the features +LED Flash +Sliding Keyboard +4G modem
The other 3 models are basically the same in that they don't have front facing cameras but the Verizon fascinate model has a flash on the back.

AllGamer said:
After reading through this forum on many many topics, it came to my attention that localized version of SGS for America (USA/Canada) seems to have missing "features" like camera/flash, smaller storage, but they have the addition of the Gyroscope, where the international version I9000 has everything but the Gyroscope, but is compensated by the other sensors which the I9000 actually has 4 sensor instead of 6...
So, in the end I'm still not sure which model is better, but it'll be good to know.
Does anyone have a side by side comparison list of the different sub models for the SGS ?
I've already ordered the European/Asian I9000 version, I'm quite sure it's the best one out there, however i might be wrong, specially the CDMA sprint version has the Keyboard/4G that non of the other versions have.
4G is not a biggie as the North American infrastructure doesn't even support it yet, but having a Keyboard is a huge bonus, but i'm sure it'll weight more.
Why can't we just have it all in one single version?
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Gyroscope ? Which model has this ?

It's not *actually* a gryo. It's using an accelerometer and geo-magnetic sensor together that can determine 6-axis of control.
And all 4 versions of the phone have this six-axis sensor.
Edit: That isn't to say that this method of six-axis control isn't as good as the iPhone. I honestly don't know how it fares against it. The only thing you should take away from this is that it's actually more efficient. The iPhone uses four sensors to: Accelerometer/Magnetometer/Gyro/Proximity. Whereas the Galaxy S uses 3 sensors: Accelerometer/Magnetometer(+gryo-ish axis)/proximity.
As far as I can see, it's just a gyro smashed together with a magnetometer. Something like this: http://www.global.yamaha.com/news/2006/20060726.html
So, I want to say that it would deliver the same fidelity as the iPhone 4's Gyro, however, I couldn't tell you. Also, I don't think that Android has an API's that currently make use of full six-axis control. So developers would have to do it all themselves.

kolyan said:
Gyroscope ? Which model has this ?
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looks like ATT has gyro, Sprint has flashlight, Euro has front-facing cam......what the hell does Tmo get ? Non of those features ?
This is stupid, why not release phone with all those features on all carriers......

Again, just to be clear. All four models will be getting this Acclerometer+GeoMagnetic sensor

thephawx said:
Again, just to be clear. All four models will be getting this Acclerometer+GeoMagnetic sensor
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oh..... ok

thephawx said:
Edit: That isn't to say that this method of six-axis control isn't as good as the iPhone. I honestly don't know how it fares against it. The only thing you should take away from this is that it's actually more efficient. The iPhone uses four sensors to: Accelerometer/Magnetometer/Gyro/Proximity. Whereas the Galaxy S uses 3 sensors: Accelerometer/Magnetometer(+gryo-ish axis)/proximity.
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I think the accelerometer in iphone is just biaxial while SGS has a triaxial accelerometer.

AllGamer said:
After reading through this forum on many many topics, it came to my attention that localized version of SGS for America (USA/Canada) seems to have missing "features" like camera/flash, smaller storage, but they have the addition of the Gyroscope, where the international version I9000 has everything but the Gyroscope, but is compensated by the other sensors which the I9000 actually has 4 sensor instead of 6...
So, in the end I'm still not sure which model is better, but it'll be good to know.
Does anyone have a side by side comparison list of the different sub models for the SGS ?
I've already ordered the European/Asian I9000 version, I'm quite sure it's the best one out there, however i might be wrong, specially the CDMA sprint version has the Keyboard/4G that non of the other versions have.
4G is not a biggie as the North American infrastructure doesn't even support it yet, but having a Keyboard is a huge bonus, but i'm sure it'll weight more.
Why can't we just have it all in one single version?
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Actually if you give swype a try you'll find a physical keyboard to be just bulk... Sprint's does seem to have everything: Flash, keyboard, and front camera... I read something about it not having a lot of internal memory though.

@kolyan
Hope you didn't take offense.
@aeo087
You are correct. The Epic 4G is said to have 1GB of usable mem and the Verizon Fascinate is only supposed to have 2GB. Obviously they can all be expandable with MicroSD storage.
Also the keyboard is a negative to my wife. She just like candy-bar style.

thephawx said:
The Epic 4G is the ONLY model that has all the features +LED Flash +Sliding Keyboard +4G modem
The other 3 models are basically the same in that they don't have front facing cameras...
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My european Galaxy S has a front facing camera.

european galaxy s has front facing camera, i can confirm that.

kolyan said:
looks like ATT has gyro, Sprint has flashlight, Euro has front-facing cam......what the hell does Tmo get ? Non of those features ?
This is stupid, why not release phone with all those features on all carriers......
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T-Mobile has the biggest internal memory storage of them all. I believe it is 16GB.

AllGamer said:
After reading through this forum on many many topics, it came to my attention that localized version of SGS for America (USA/Canada) seems to have missing "features" like camera/flash, smaller storage, but they have the addition of the Gyroscope, where the international version I9000 has everything but the Gyroscope, but is compensated by the other sensors which the I9000 actually has 4 sensor instead of 6...
So, in the end I'm still not sure which model is better, but it'll be good to know.
Does anyone have a side by side comparison list of the different sub models for the SGS ?
I've already ordered the European/Asian I9000 version, I'm quite sure it's the best one out there, however i might be wrong, specially the CDMA sprint version has the Keyboard/4G that non of the other versions have.
4G is not a biggie as the North American infrastructure doesn't even support it yet, but having a Keyboard is a huge bonus, but i'm sure it'll weight more.
Why can't we just have it all in one single version?
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The answer is none.
Please be specific with your question.
but what exactly is "all components"?
AT&T 16gb, No FFC, No flash, gyroscope
Tmobile 16gb, No FFC, No flash, gyroscope
Verizon 2gb, No FFC NOT SURE, flash, gyroscope, Wi-fi Hotspot supported
Sprint 1gb, Yes FFC NOT SURE, Flash, gyroscope, Keyboard, wi-fi hotspot supported
International 8/16gb, FFC, no Flash, gyroscope (not sure)
As you can see there is something missing in each one.

accinfo said:
The answer is none.
Please be specific with your question.
but what exactly is "all components"?
AT&T 16gb, No FFC, No flash, gyroscope
Tmobile 16gb, No FFC, No flash, gyroscope
Verizon 2gb, FFC NOT SURE, flash, gyroscope, Wi-fi Hotspot supported
Sprint 1gb, FFC NOT SURE, Flash, gyroscope, Keyboard
International 8/16gb, FFC, no Flash, gyroscope (not sure)
As you can see there is something missing in each one.
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only US model with a FFC is the Sprint one. and afaik the Sprint one also has the wifi hotspot feature enabled as well albeit extra per month
and reason why they took the FFC out of the ATT Verizon and T-Mobile ones is because those networks dont support video calls. end of story

chaoscentral said:
only US model with a FFC is the Sprint one. and afaik the Sprint one also has the wifi hotspot feature enabled as well albeit extra per month
and reason why they took the FFC out of the ATT Verizon and T-Mobile ones is because those networks dont support video calls. end of story
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networks don't support video calls?
Do you know what technology of the network support that?

accinfo said:
networks don't support video calls?
Do you know what technology of the network support that?
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well its more an issue of bandwidth, 3G can technically support it, but isnt enabled on T-Mobile AT&T or Verizon atm. T-Mobile will most likely be next in line considering they are HSPA+ 21mbps which is faster than WiMax. Plus they just recently launched the Nokia E73 Mode which has a FFC, just video calls not supported currently.
EDIT: My theory as to why ATT Verizon and Tmobile left out the FFC is because unlike the iPhone they cant dictate whether or not its a wifi only feature because of the nature of Android. So since they dont currently have the bandwidth they left it out instead of leaving it in.

chaoscentral said:
only US model with a FFC is the Sprint one. and afaik the Sprint one also has the wifi hotspot feature enabled as well albeit extra per month
and reason why they took the FFC out of the ATT Verizon and T-Mobile ones is because those networks dont support video calls. end of story
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T-Mobile network does support it, I've been doing video calls on there network, They just don't want to bog down there network with people doing video calls.

siberslug said:
T-Mobile network does support it, I've been doing video calls on there network, They just don't want to bog down there network with people doing video calls.
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well like I said bandwidth issue at the moment. By the end of the year with HSPA+ available to most of its network I think it'll be more commonplace.

How important do you think the camera flash is? I want to take decent photos but don't know how much the flash plays into that.
Also the Epic 4G is the only one with a dedicated camera button.
How do you think the sliding keyboard be? I'd be concerned that it'd be too flimsy and break easily. I'd like a keyboard but not one that is weak.
All in all the Sprint Epic looks like the one for me. Except for the keyboard question.

Samsung Epic 4G GSM Version in Europe?

Hi,
does anybody have information about availability of this wonderful querty device in europe?

Considering what Samsung did with the Galaxy in Europe (what a crap!), I would be very upset to not see a GSM version.
Anyway i haven't heard nothing about a GSM version.
What i know is that Samsung did several version of the Galaxy S with different name.
And if I'm not mistaken, in Europe, is suspect that we will only see the Galaxy S, wich i hate.

velenox said:
Considering what Samsung did with the Galaxy in Europe (what a crap!)
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Ummm, what exactly?

Not sure where I saw it but in one of the reviews of the Epic 4G the author pointed out an empty fully functional SIM card slot next to the memory slot and pondered why it had the SIM slot.
Is it true that the shipping model will actually have that sim slot?

Knowing Sprint, it'll be the same situation we had with the PPC-6700... our phones will have a plastic sticker over an empty cavity where the CSIM slot is supposed to be, then after we've moved on someone will buy up Sprint's remaining stock for a pittance, pay workers to hand-solder CSIM sockets into them, and sell them in some other country for 10x as much money.
If my Epic4G arrives with a real CSIM card in it, I'll be celebrating for a year ;-)
For anyone who doesn't know, CSIM is the latest revision of R-UIM, which is itself a superset of GSM SIM. CSIM is also (an optional?) part of the USIM standard.

Um? Maybe? Its called a Galaxy S Pro. But no, you won't get the Epic 4G in Europe... Europe doesn't use Wimax... or CDMA... so this will be as useful as a phone as an ipod touch. You may get a varient which will look different (probably more like the original Galaxy S as I've seen mockups of that with a keyboard).

Umm if the Epic 4G doesn't get a variant (plz plz same specs) with a GSM module instead of CDMA it would be very stupid of Samsung.
It would make sense to do so since there are several variants and international versions of the Galaxy S, and this is like the head of the Galaxy S family.
But something tells me Samsung will not outs the Epic 4G with a GSM, and I wish to god that I'm wrong OR that Samsung will release it with the exact specs but without the 4G antennae .... which will also be very aweful considering that 4G will be available in the near-future in Australia (and there is proof for it like 3G prices are crashing).
I want my GSM Samsung Epic 4G here in Aust!!!!!

Yea I'm not really sure why people ask if they will get certain phones in Europe. Not that it doesn't happen but certain phones are made exclusive. That's why it's called the epic 4G!
That's why it's different from all the other galaxy s phones. if europe did get this it would be 4gless and just a galaxy s with a keyboard. but i highly doubt because they would of announced this already. would it be cool? sure but i highly doubt. not every phone can be duplicated. it's a reason for every device.

I'd say just give it some time. It should be out.
The Samsung Wave (Bada phone) had a slide out qwerty keyboard about 4-5 months after the candy bar style phone came out.

Main difference between the Euro & US SGS

Since I live in Sweden, what is the main difference with the Vibrant, Capacitive and Euro versions of the SGS?

The actual Galaxy S, the i9000, is the version used everywhere except for the U.S. and Canada. Carriers there decided they wanted variations of the device and a removal of some features. Namely the front-facing camera.
The Vibrant for T-Mobile US has no front facing camera, and uses 4 touch sensitive keys at the bottom instead of the home button with two touch keys.
The Captivate for AT&T US has no front facing camera, also uses 4 touch sensitive keys in lieu of the i9000 configuration, but has a different body design.
The Epic 4G for Sprint US is basically the Vibrant with a slide out keyboard and the front-facing camera put back in, plus a 4G radio.
The "Galaxy S Captivate" for Rogers Canada is identical to the AT&T US version.
Bell Wireless Canada released the normal Galaxy S (i9000) but called it the Galaxy S Vibrant for some bizarre reason (even though it is not the T-Mobile US version).
All of the phones run their own firmware for that specific variation (except perhaps the Bell Wireless one as it is the international variation. Not sure though).

Thank you for that detail description. I wonder why some countires do not want the front facing camera. Rediculous, really. Oh well. That means Sweden as a front facing camera. At least I think so. I gotta check it out. I didn't think about it when I ordered it.

because the USA phone networks wants to make another product shine
in this case iphone4
advertized as the revolutionary phone with the only front facing conversation

Revolutionery it is not. Nokia as had this on their phones long before the Iphone.

Nexus S announced ;)

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-with-gingerbread.html
http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/index
Nexus S is the first smartphone to feature a 4” Contour Display designed to fit comfortably in the palm of your hand and along the side of your face. It also features a 1GHz Hummingbird processor, front and rear facing cameras, 16GB of internal memory, and NFC (near field communication) hardware that lets you read information from NFC tags. NFC is a fast, versatile short-range wireless technology that can be embedded in all kinds of everyday objects like movie posters, stickers and t-shirts.

Hell yeah! Pretty much the SGS hardware!
Front+Back cam
1Ghz HummingBird
16Go
Let's hope we'll get a Gingerbread on the 16th!

WHY is that always all the good phones are on 900 bands?
# Quad-band GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
# Tri-band HSPA: 900, 2100, 1700
# HSPA type: HSDPA (7.2Mbps) HSUPA (5.76Mbps)
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There are so many phones I like, but none on 850 version (only I9000M), they always make them for Europe first... Why?!?!?!

Very nice, the specs look almost identical to the i9000. I guess we'll see a port soon!

I'd say I can't wait to have Gingerbread on my Galaxy S, damn I hate TouchWiz.

Review:
http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/06/google-nexus-s-review/

Yes even Gingerbread 2.3 has now gone official i just hope some one in the XDA community ports it soon for our i9000's to unleash its true power and potential with out off cource instaling a lagfix.
It is said that 16th is when tmoble is getting the nexus s
(via Engadget)
My request some one please port 2.3 for our i9000 too coz samsung is gona take ages to bring it as a official update via keis they dint even completly realease there 2.2 update to every one....
I mean XDA members are way better with software anyways so
"Hurray for 2.3"
My final verdict any ways
Galaxy S i9000 (with out a micro sd slot) (beefed up design of the device) + Better Gps chip + 2.3 + NFC (Which v wont b using any time soon) + Faster Update via Google paractcally = "The New Nexus S"
Yes yes u heard me the Nexus S dosent have a micro sd slot for memory expansion only built in 16GB kind of odd any ways.
So i am nt gona buy a Nexus S perhaps i will wate for the nex gen Nexus coz any ways if v port the nexus s software to out i9000 its gona give us the same xperence as with the Nexus S so why to buy it!!
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Which provider in Canada will work on the new Nexus S ?
Since Bell Mobility is using 850MHz and/or 1900MHz, does that me I can just put in my SIM card and be good to go ?

I hope GB will arrive soon on our phone...only hw difference seems to be this NFC feature,but i guess devs could just disable it (or not)...assuming it's a hw component and not just software app (i could be wrong)

Could the reason for Samsung's 'lazy' implementation and rollout of Froyo be because more development resources are being spent on getting Gingerbread on the Galaxy S?

so... the Nexus S is a Galaxy S with Gingerbread.
Bad news for those who hoped something new.
Good news for Galaxy S owners. I hope we can flash the Nexus S rom as soon as possible!

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Could the reason for Samsung's 'lazy' implementation and rollout of Froyo be because more development resources are being spent on getting Gingerbread on the Galaxy S?
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I wouldn't count on it

hot damn that looks amazingly sexy! the minor changes just looks so much better!! wowww.. but no dual core??

Nah, I would think that the delay with froyo had to do with Sammy's work on the SGT, rather than the Nexus S.

This will definitely be ported, it might even not require a port if it uses odin. I can't wait, we might have it in less than 10 days if samfirmware get their hands on it.
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bossman74 said:
Which provider in Canada will work on the new Nexus S ?
Since Bell Mobility is using 850MHz and/or 1900MHz, does that me I can just put in my SIM card and be good to go ?
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No. It will fail on Bell or Telus HSPA, it won't even work for voice. It will work voice and EDGE only with Rogers/Fido. Wind/Mobilcity will support it, inside their microscopic zones.
I'm pretty sure they'll do what they did with the Nexus One, which is to give T-Mobile a month or so of "exclusivity" in North America, then roll out a 850/1900 HSPA version.

i like it and all, but still, the shape is so weird...... just like the galaxy i9000, might just stick with this as no major difference in specs or looks, do you think gingerbread will come to our i9000's?

My NEW phone

shouldnt samsung themselves be porting this **** over stat? theyve had all of the code for months now working on this new phone. it should be simple for them to port it with the hardware being so similar.
somehow i dont see it happening tho. how soon do you think 2.3 will be for the poor galaxy s?

This phone looks great, but I'm worried that it'll have RFS. If it's just a retooled galaxy s, is it going to suffer from bad gps and lag?
I loved my galaxy s when I got it, but it just degrades more everyday, and its totally stock. Sometimes the lag is so bad, that I can't answer the phone because it's ringing but the UI has locked up and I can't swipe to answer. A bit of lag is something I can deal with, not being able to answer the phone is indefensible.

Sprint Epic Galaxy vs others?

Can anybody figure out what is the main difference between the epic vs the other galaxy s variants other than slider.. Most of them all have the same processor and all.. difference is celluar service is all i can tell. Reason i am asking, i was looking at some other Galaxy phones and all of them look the same in looks and style...

The epic is essentially the international version with a keyboard and wimax. Oh and no internal storage
That's it.
The other american ones have certain things removed or changed like the ffc
Go for whichevr variant gives you the best service (but don't get the verizon one....trust me.)
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The Epic comes with an older version of Touchwiz while the others use the latest. Also, the Epic is the only variant that includes both LED flash and front camera.

Also the Epic 4g has a notification LED on the front