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Hi,
I have a big problem with my Tytn (sorry if this is already been posted). Quite often the phone freezes, making it impossible to turn on again. The only thing that works is a soft-reset. What is worse, is that when the phone is in this state, although the green light is regularly flashing, it is unable to get phone calls even if the caller gets the normal ringing signal. No trace is left of the call, neither in calls list! This is a really serious issue: please, let me know if you have an idea of how to solve the problem.
Thanks!
I am having the same issue. I haven't been able to isolate it. I was havign to0 restart 1-2 times a day. Same systems press the power button nothing. Lights blinking everything looks ok. but nothing on the screen. and i miss calls. really pain in the ass. I loaded mobile secretary and it hasn;t locked in a day or two which is odd.
I also sometimes have to rpess the power button two times for it to wake
me too
It's happening to me too. I will lose service and the phone doesn't go out and poll automatically when service should be good. It may show 1, 2, 3 bars then when I try to make a call it hangs, and then get an x and a Y!, then searches for service. I have the GSM only hack installed and the activesync workaround and it still does this. It is not useable as a phone.
do a search in this forum.
one relevant thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285974
With all due respect, there is no solution where the link leads to.
I am having the GSM problem also. Just from time to time I am noticing an exclamation mark near the 'antennae' icon in the top bar. When I tap it, I read 'Service unavailable' in the balloon. From that point I may either soft-reset, or switch GSM flight mode on and off, which brings the PIN code keyboard and the phone works again.
I really don't think it is related to power saving, as it happened a few times in the car with TyTN on external power.
mnez said:
With all due respect, there is no solution where the link leads to.
I am having the GSM problem also. Just from time to time I am noticing an exclamation mark near the 'antennae' icon in the top bar. When I tap it, I read 'Service unavailable' in the balloon. From that point I may either soft-reset, or switch GSM flight mode on and off, which brings the PIN code keyboard and the phone works again.
I really don't think it is related to power saving, as it happened a few times in the car with TyTN on external power.
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I think warmkiwi's link may be relevant to jimwormold's original post, which may not be related to your and angled1's problem of failing to poll correctly after dropping it's signal.
Mike
yes, it was. sorry, i should have quoted the original author (jimwormold)
well, sorry for being so picky on you :|
Now when we have defragmented the conversation I wonder if the GSM problem is reported more widely? and what is supposed to do in order to isolate the problem and fix it...?
jimwormold said:
Quite often the phone freezes, making it impossible to turn on again. The only thing that works is a soft-reset. What is worse, is that when the phone is in this state, although the green light is regularly flashing, it is unable to get phone calls
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Sorry to do a "me too" posting, but I experience the exact same symptoms. There is no obvious pattern to when this happens, but it is a major problem, as there is no way (other than trying to switch it on) to distinguish whether the phone is working or not at any given moment.
I am running the latest (South African) ROM on my Vario II.
Philip said:
Sorry to do a "me too" posting, but I experience the exact same symptoms. There is no obvious pattern to when this happens, but it is a major problem, as there is no way (other than trying to switch it on) to distinguish whether the phone is working or not at any given moment.
I am running the latest (South African) ROM on my Vario II.
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Given this thread now appears to have two distinct issues running together I better be clear that I am referring to the lock-up/freezing issue not the dropped GSM signal issue!!
To be honest there are quite a few possible causes for the freezing issue(s). I would suggest searches and the wiki on such things as (and you may or may not have tried some already):
1. Use of a Task Manager to properly shut running programmes otherwise they contiue to run in the background
2. Proper shutting down of Active Sync in addition to any task manager you may have, as it can re-start itself automatically (particularly overnight. Look for the "Fake Server Trick")
3. Always shut down Wifi when not in use (vital particularly overnight but also good practice to avoid lock ups)
4 For overnight and possibly other quiet times you can consider having your device automatically perform a soft reset to clear any running programmes that may block alarms/receipt of mail etc. Look for such things as xbar or SK schema
Mike
mikechannon said:
Given this thread now appears to have two distinct issues running together I better be clear that I am referring to the lock-up/freezing issue not the dropped GSM signal issue!!
1. Use of a Task Manager to properly shut running programmes otherwise they contiue to run in the background
2. Proper shutting down of Active Sync in addition to any task manager you may have, as it can re-start itself automatically (particularly overnight. Look for the "Fake Server Trick")
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Yes indeed, although I think that both: a Phone App problem, and a GSM signal problem, are indeed the same, maybe only differently percepted and described by users affected.
I need ActiveSync to be running in order for DirectPush to work. If it conflicts with the phone, it makes the device unusable concerning push email functionality.
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Yes indeed, although I think that both: a Phone App problem, and a GSM signal problem, are indeed the same, maybe only differently percepted and described by users affected.
I need ActiveSync to be running in order to DirectPush work. If it conflicts with the phone, it makes the device unusable concerning push email functionality.
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I agree they may be cause and effect for some folks. Although I don't believe we can say that all the freezing and lock-ups are due to dropped GSM signal and freezing when failing to re-establish it. The items I list either taken together or individually have been found by others to work in some cases.
I appreciate that if you require Active Sync running then this is not a solution for you. I think the issue of crashing on loss of signal requires more analysis and I'm not aware of much discussion of it - though I could be wrong!!
Mike
I was fiddling with the phone yesterday and today, and I have a hypothesis that my problem is related to PIN entry screen that won't pop up but is silently awaiting a PIN underneath.
I was trying to ucheck the "Require PIN when phone is used" box in Settings but with no luck, my PIN is then refused with "Unknown SIM Error" message. Maybe it wants a PUK but I don't have it on hand to try.
My plan now is to:
- uninstall all Phone-related applications (PhonePlus, Dark_Blue Buttons, EZDial),
- request PUK from my office and try to uncheck the box,
- try prepaid SIM card which has no PIN
To observe symptoms I need two-three days, so I will rather not be posting until solid data is collected.
ps Mike, it is a pleasure to be on a board with people like you.
mnez said:
I was fiddling with the phone yesterday and today, and I have a hypothesis that my problem is related to PIN entry screen that won't pop up but is silently awaiting a PIN underneath.
I was trying to ucheck the "Require PIN when phone is used" box in Settings but with no luck, my PIN is then refused with "Unknown SIM Error" message. Maybe it wants a PUK but I don't have it on hand to try.
My plan now is to:
- uninstall all Phone-related applications (PhonePlus, Dark_Blue Buttons, EZDial),
- request PUK from my office and try to uncheck the box,
- try prepaid SIM card which has no PIN
To observe symptoms I need two-three days, so I will rather not be posting until solid data is collected.
ps Mike, it is a pleasure to be on a board with people like you.
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Very kind of you to say so
Look forward to seeing your findings.
Mike
new phone
I'm on day 2 of my replacement phone from Cingular and the problem with losing gsm signal is non existent. The problem was hardware and fixed by calling and getting a warranty replacement phone. I'll let you know if the problem returns. Oh, and I have not been using the gsm only hack. I'm trying to see if the phone will work as designed first.
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I'm on day 2 of my replacement phone from Cingular and the problem with losing gsm signal is non existent. The problem was hardware and fixed by calling and getting a warranty replacement phone. I'll let you know if the problem returns. Oh, and I have not been using the gsm only hack. I'm trying to see if the phone will work as designed first.
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Good news - hope it continues to work well.
Mike
I am reporting from the test field that my problem persists, despite uninstalling all phone-related extenders.
I have noticed that freezing is paired with disabling Bluetooth. So after switching the phone off (flight mode on) and back on (flight mode off), I also have to turn on Bluetooth.
EDIT: I was grounded for last few days at home and freezing problem was not occuring. I am now thinking that it may be related to switching band between GPRS and UMTS. My next step will be disabling UMTS for good. It saves a whole lotta battery, by the way. I am for the third day mostly on standby, with a few calls made, and I am still on 70%! (no 3G in the area)
I have contacted my vendor and asked about replacement policy, they are "checking this with the importer". It's a beauty of living in not-so-western country. Poland is the name.
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EDIT: I was grounded for last few days at home and freezing problem was not occuring. I am now thinking that it may be related to switching band between GPRS and UMTS. My next step will be disabling UMTS for good. It saves a whole lotta battery, by the way. I am for the third day mostly on standby, with a few calls made, and I am still on 70%! (no 3G in the area)
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I'm having exactly the same problem, very annoying because the staus LEDs keep blinking as normal. I too think the problem is UMST-GPRS switching related, as I also have problems when phoning while I drive with my car from a UMTS enabled into a GPRS only zone. The voice call is interupted and I get a loud noise, sounding like a scrambled voice, on both sides of the connection. At home my UMTS signal is very weak, so I think it happens when I move around the house to a place where the TyTN switches to GPRS.
I've put my TyTN to "GSM network" only now to see if this helps, but I use UMTS frequently so this is no long term solution for me.
pbw
same problem here, only gsm wil not help, new sim cards wont help either even other provider wont help
check: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287669
treid several different roms nothing will help
good luck
Hi,
mine was siffering of freezing issue, I sent a mail to HTC support, they don't know about it but the guy said me that I must to hard reset my device. Then no more freezes, I will keep testing it.
Regards,
Taguapire.
BTW: I changed my old and almost destroyed SIM card by a new one.
sometimes while speaking to someone the sound of the 8525 goes blank and i am unable to end the call and the timer keeps running till eventually it ends by itself usually a min or minute a half after. this occasionally happens also when the person on the other line ends their call.
help me!!
oh yeah, when it ends call, i lose service and i have to wait for the phone to pick up reception before i can call the person again
I am sure that one of the more experienced members may have a better idea, but I had this problem in low signal areas when I was on radio 1.34. It stopped happening when I upgraded to 1.38 and so far hasn't happened on 1.40.
Something to try anyway.
This happens to me quite frequently in my house!!
Next time this happens notice if the network indicator has dropped from U to G during your call. When it happens on my 8525, the call wont terminate. So many times while im in my house ill band tab switch to GSM just so it does not do this..
I had one go for 63 minutes in my pocket once... so i checked my usage, and it was only shown as the 2 minute call I actually had. So it did hang up from the network, but my phone was blissfully unaware. I'm not so sure however if someone else called it would have rung.
Hope this helps, let us know if it's changing from U to G !
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This happens to me quite frequently in my house!!
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Seems like you have the same issue I had at work, two low level signals and it hangs trying to switch between continually. Has upgrading the radio helped you at all, or was it just coincidence for me?
im currently on radio 1.38, maybe if i switch over to 1.40 ill see, but i will def keep tabs if the network goes from U to G.
thanks for the help guys i switched my network from "any" to "gsm" only, and so far so good, i guess the problem was when the network would switch over from gsm to wcdma im not totally sure. anyway i chose GSM as the network it should always be on, and the network indicator always has an E on the top. is it fine if i keep it at GSM or will i run into problems/ or not recieve full benefits of something? some1 please educate me thanks
I have been having this problem for awhile and thought it would change based on different ROM and radios, but it doesn't.
Strangely I don't remember this happening right when I got the phone, but then again, I might not have noticed, or it might have started after I first reflashed (to the official 8525 update 2.15)
If I leave the phone in the default Auto band select mode, with any ROM and radio (although I never tried going back to the initial shipped one) I get almost every call dropped if I have a 3G signal. It also happens with data. I will be in a call and suddenly the sound both ways will cut out, I look at the phone and the 3G has changed to G. The call won't "end" until I press the end key, but there is no sound either way. The same thing will happen with data like if say I am streaming music. The icon will turn from 3G to G and then eventually reconnect.
If I set it on GSM only, this never (well almost, no dropped calls, but the icon will randomly flash to G now and then... maybe happened like twice) happens and no calls or data connections are dropped.
When I was in Africa I used an Areeba SIM and while the signal was only G (E in Accra, the capital of Ghana) most of the time, I never once had a dropped call.
My phone is in great condition, with a plastic case and what not, and has only been like, really lightly dropped (like fallen out of my pocket when changing or something, maybe a few inches) a couple times, but nothing remotely like bad.
I've noticed that if I set it to WCDMA only, I get only a few dropped calls and data and only if I lose service. Which led me to believe the problem was with switching from 3G to E/G.
I looked around on here and saw that a few other people had dropped calls as well, but can't help but wonder if this is a physical hardware problem or a network problem or a problem with the radio version.
What's weird is that I noticed it happens even in strong 3G areas (I'm in New Jersey) like Long Branch and New York City.
Any ideas?
This is a well documented problem. As you have discovered the solution is to use an application like Danielhererro's Bandswitch application (see commmgrpro) to force it to one band or another. The Hermes is set to constantly swap to strongest band - it does not do this well at all. Even within one room for example the signal can vary from one band being strongest to another. This is not a fault peculiar to your phone!!.
Mike
Few issues...
1. This one has never been addressed... Even with my G2, and with vibration set to always, my phone never vibrates for incoming texts, MMS's or emails. How do I make this work? I have yet to use an Android ROM, even stock out of the box with the phone, where this works.
2. From time to time, T-Mobile is replaced with (No Service) on the lock screen, even though I have service. This also happened with my G2.
Both issues seem to be a bug with Android, probably at the kernel level. Anyone know of a fix?
agentfazexx said:
Few issues...
1. This one has never been addressed... Even with my G2, and with vibration set to always, my phone never vibrates for incoming texts, MMS's or emails. How do I make this work? I have yet to use an Android ROM, even stock out of the box with the phone, where this works.
2. From time to time, T-Mobile is replaced with (No Service) on the lock screen, even though I have service. This also happened with my G2.
Both issues seem to be a bug with Android, probably at the kernel level. Anyone know of a fix?
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1. easy fix, check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981120
2. i had the same problem, check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975282
lowrider262 said:
1. easy fix, check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981120
2. i had the same problem, check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975282
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Thanks. Point 1's link seems to be for actual signal drops, which I don't really have, and plus I'd rather use 4G not 2G...
Your No Service issue is probably because you have your phone set to WCDMA Only instead of GSM/WCDMA auto. When the 3G signal is not present there is no GSM/Edge signal for your phone to fall back on.
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Your No Service issue is probably because you have your phone set to WCDMA Only instead of GSM/WCDMA auto. When the 3G signal is not present there is no GSM/Edge signal for your phone to fall back on.
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Hm...makes sense. How do I change that? Went into Wireless Settings, didn't see it.
Im in Norway with Telenor subscription. When my Edge+ is LTE/3G/2G (auto connect) Im experiencing several issues:
1. During phonecalls:
- Several times during a call, I can hear the other party, but they can not hear me for several seconds
- The sound become "static", and the phonecall ends.
2. During browsing:
- Page never loads
I cant find any system in these problems, they can happen in places with good reception, or it can be during driving (handsfree).
But all these issues disappear if I set the phone in 2G only, then everything is working perfectly.
What I've tried:
- Reset APN
- Enter APN manually
Any suggestions?
I'm in Norway too but with NetCom. I've used my wife's Telenor SIM card in my Edge+ a few times, not really noticed any difference except for slightly worse sound during calls. Har du ringt Telenor?
I have the same problem. Are you rooted by any chance and have recently installed viper4android?
B3311 said:
I'm in Norway too but with NetCom. I've used my wife's Telenor SIM-CARD in my Edge+ a few times, not really noticed any difference except for slightly worse sound during calls. Har du ringt Telenor?
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Yes, the Telenor employee just said that he had the same phone without any problems...
rm83855 said:
I have the same problem. Are you rooted by any chance and have recently installed viper4android?
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No, Im not rooted, and running stock firmware. Ive not installed viper4android. The problem has been there from day one
Hmm... I'm rooted and have Viper. Are you locked to Telenor? If not, try and loan a Netcom/Djuice/Chess/whatever SIM card and test - at least then you should definitely know if it's a device problem or a Telenor problem.
What's your signal strength (Settings>About phone>SIM card status)?
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Hmm... I'm rooted and have Viper. Are you locked to Telenor? If not, try and loan a Netcom/Djuice/Chess/whatever SIM card and test - at least then you should definitely know if it's a device problem or a Telenor problem.
What's your signal strength (Settings>About phone>SIM card status)?
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I'm not locked, so I will try a simcard from a different operator. When I have auto connect (LTE, 3g 2g) its constantly shifting between H and H+.
Where I'm now, the signal strengt is stable on -51 dBm 31 asu (Mobile network type EDGE).
Switching to (LTE, 3G, 2G) its -65 dBm 24 asu (Mobile network type LTE)
I can confirm having the same issue #2 as OP in Sweden with Halebop as my carrier, but I only got it once and since then there has been several security updates so I though this issue was one of the things fixed (thanks Samsung for not supplying a proper changelog)
I've just tried with two Telenor SIM cards from my wife and son - both work fine. I'd contact Telenor again and ask for real help... Their customer service is dreadful, that's why I switched to NetCom. Lykke til?
I have this problem a few days:
1. During phonecalls:
- Several times during a call, I can hear the other party, but they can not hear me for several seconds
- The sound become "static", and the phonecall ends.
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And that days i try everything (restart, everything reset, change network modes, remove/return sim card ets). Only calls perfect works in forced 2G mode these days.
Problem solved a few days later by itself.
My phone is rooted, and i have custom kernel.
Country: Serbia, Network: MTS
Hey guys!
I'm having the same problem here on Brazil with carrier VIVO
went to SIM CARD STATUS and it shows signal strenght of -113 dBm, 0 asu
it says mobile network state disconnected
I can't make or receive call and access internet
dannp21db said:
Hey guys!
I'm having the same problem here on Brazil with carrier VIVO
went to SIM CARD STATUS and it shows signal strenght of -113 dBm, 0 asu
it says mobile network state disconnected
I can't make or receive call and access internet
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I sometimes have the same problem. Called my service provider (Telenor) today. They are going to send me a new SIM-car, going to se if thats help, and Im going to test with anoter service providers SIM-card
Got the new SIM-card last week.. Same problem, people people can't hear me for 3-10 seconds several times during a phonecall. And data seems to "hang" from time to time. Tried a full factory reset this weekend, so are going to test more next week. And then try a Netcom SIM-card
Mojito71 said:
Got the new SIM-card last week.. Same problem, people people can't hear me for 3-10 seconds several times during a phonecall. And data seems to "hang" from time to time. Tried a full factory reset this weekend, so are going to test more next week. And then try a Netcom SIM-card
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Just to recap
I returned the phone, and I just got an email from the repairs workshop saying it was a warranty. I dont know if I get a new phone, or if they have repaired the old one.
update: got an email from repairs workshop. They did a network calibration and "reinstalled software". After that they tested the phone OK. I think I will get the phone this week.
I have same problem now, only work on 2g. When on 3g phonecalls hanging all the time.
goran9888 said:
I have same problem now, only work on 2g. When on 3g phonecalls hanging all the time.
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Same problem here.
In general, the problem is not with the sim card neither phone hardware. The problem usually is with any app that we have installed. To ensure this, switch on the phone in SAFE MODE ( safe mode temporally turns off all user-installed apps). To do that:
1. Switch off the phone
2. Wait at least 1 minute
3.Press and hold volume down button AND the power button
4.Once screen lights up, you can release power button but you should NOT release the volume down button
5. Hold the volume down button until you get the lock screen
You will notice there is a Safe mode icon in bottom left of the lock screen.
Now try to do some phone calls and accurate if the phone call sound is ok. If so, you must uninstall all your apps and discover which one is making this problem
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Same problem here.
In general, the problem is not with the sim card neither phone hardware. The problem usually is with any app that we have installed. To ensure this, switch on the phone in SAFE MODE ( safe mode temporally turns off all user-installed apps). To do that:
1. Switch off the phone
2. Wait at least 1 minute
3.Press and hold volume down button AND the power button
4.Once screen lights up, you can release power button but you should NOT release the volume down button
5. Hold the volume down button until you get the lock screen
You will notice there is a Safe mode icon in bottom left of the lock screen.
Now try to do some phone calls and accurate if the phone call sound is ok. If so, you must uninstall all your apps and discover which one is making this problem
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You are right. In safe mode work normal. Now must check what app make problem.
goran9888 said:
You are right. In safe mode work normal. Now must check what app make problem.
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Jeez, how are we going to identify this app.. It even might be several....
If you find what app make a problem text here, if i find, i will.
"Jeez, how are we going to identify this app.. It even might be several.... "
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If you find what app make a problem text here, if i find, i will.
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Are you talking seriously?? First of all, I think that finding out that the problem isn't neither from sim card or hardware, is a great new, and now you are asking which app YOU have installed is the problematic?! Lol ok, I suppose to believe you're naïve and I can help a bit...
It is not necessarily only one or the same app for both. Sometimes can be one in conflict with another also installed, one in conflict with the specific firmware of each one or one of several app's with low maturity (you can check it in Google play). I can give you an idea: for instance, periscope app is very problematic in android. But there are a lot of a lot problematic app's. So, as they are so much, there is only a solution if you don't have an idea: uninstall all of them ( phone hard reset preferably) and after this, install one by one manually (not restore any backup cause the errors come again). After each app installation, make some calls to check any call sound problem. When you notice the problem in call sound, the cause is in the last app that you've installed immediately before this. For next time, check with attention after installing any app if any problem appear and never install several app's in the same time to have time to notice problems in a narrow way...
Anyway, you can write here your conclusions
voilà