Now that the root is soon to be released, once root is done on a phone would it be reversible?
I have a friend who has a rooted N1 and he tells me that root is NOT reversible on a N1, and that it will void the warranty.
Would this be the case with X10?
Thanks in advance
soultrain04 said:
Now that the root is soon to be released, once root is done on a phone would it be reversible?
I have a friend who has a rooted N1 and he tells me that root is NOT reversible on a N1, and that it will void the warranty.
Would this be the case with X10?
Thanks in advance
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My opinion is that it will be reversible. Gathering the information posted by the devs so far (Great job by the way Guys!), the root is a local exploit which gives super user privileges when the OS is booted up and running.
Since there aren't any hints at modifying the bootloader etc... all that it would take for you to get it back to a stock firmware is to restore to one of the shipped firmwares.
Again, I maybe wrong... we will have to wait and see.
This is a OS hack, which means yes it is reversable. if you updated your phone you'll lose it
All other devices are hacked on the bootloader to load different os versions (1.6/2.0/2.1/2.2) kinda of like windows 95/xp/2000/vista/7
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Hi, I've been looking around several threads but it was hard to find an answer.
My new Xperia Play phone should be arriving any day now, so I'm just getting everything ready tutorial-wise for rooting my phone. However I'm unclear on a few things!
Firstly, once I have unlocked the bootloader, a certain tutorial tells me to use 'play_modded.img' as the necessary root package to root my phone. Are there different root packages for the Xperia Play or just one?
Second, once I have rooted my phone, should I update to 2.3.3 firmware? Should I update to 2.3.3 before I begin rooting? Or is it not possible to root the 2.3.3 software at the moment and so just stay with 2.3.2?
What are the differences with the firmware updates and are they necessary?
Thirdly, being from the UK I am pretty sure that my phone is R800i, is there anything I need to take into consideration when rooting for having an Xperia from a specific region?
I hope you guys can help and sorry for the noobish questions, this is my first smartphone (and a good choice, I hope!).
Don't update if you unlocked your bootloader.... Your play will probably come as 2.3.3 already. So you need to flash it to 2.3.2 uk generic WITHOUT unlocking the bootloader. Root the 2.3.2 and then update to 2.3.3 through phone (ota, without hooking it up to computer at all)
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Never do any ota updates through phone if you decided to unlock the bootloader. As of now there is no reason to unlock bootloader because cm7 is not ready yet.
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What is 'Ota'? I'm more confused now!
Also, what is 'cm7'?
Why are you saying there is no reason to unlock the bootloader, is this not the first step in order to root your phone?
If you only want root, then no. You need to root with gingerbreak, but it will only work with 2.3.2
Maybe it would be best if you checked in again when you receive your play then it will be easier to guide you?
If the play is on 2.3.2 it will be very easy and if it's on 2.3.3 it will take some more work.
OTA is over the air, it just means that you can update over 3g or on wifi, no need of a cmputer
As i see it you'll get the best out of just rooting for now and through that get some knowledge and learn a bit of basics with android modding
Regards Dousan...
Thanks Dousan, it's making a lot more sense now!
I heard that 2.3.3 fixes quite a lot of bugs, so will rooting on 2.3.2 and remaining on a rooted 2.3.2 not be a disadvantage?
I checked out what CM7 project was all about, a custom rom? It sounds really good, I'm genuinely excited about all the added features!
Could someone please link me to a good tutorial on how to use Gingerbreak with the Xperia Play?
Are there any disadvantages of rooting the Xperia Play at the minute (other than the chance of a brick)?
Once rooted, does the custom .img flashed to the phone contain any bloatware? Is there a guide on how to remove the bloatware and other tricks to speed up the phone, customizing it to make it better?
I presume that flashing the new .img to the phone will cause the pre-installed free games such as Crash Bandicoot to be erased, is there any way to keep them?
First see here. <-- is a guide to root the xplay with a locked bootloader and still be able to update to 2.3.3.
You do not have to stay on 2.3.2 once you have rooted. But rooting will only work on 2.3.2 since in 2.3.3 the exploit gingerbreak uses was patched. But if you follow the guide in the link above. You can use gingerbreak on 2.3.2 then use OTA (not seus or pc companion) to update and it will keep your root access and upgrade you to 2.3.3.
To install CM7 you will need an unlocked bootloader. I plan to install it when a stable version is released. My bootloader is still locked atm. So its a case of just unlocking the bootloader when CM7 is stable and installing it. I would keep your bootloader locked untill you have a bit more experience (since you could brick your phone if you use SEUS or OTA or PC Comapnion to update once the bootloader is unlocked)
No need for a tutorial for gingerbreak. Simply put the Gingerbreak.apk on your sd card then use a file manager such as astro to navigate to it. Open it and just click the root button (for some people it took 20+ mins, in my case was like 1 minute).
No real disadvantages to rooting. Rooting will not damage your phone at all. Since all you are doing is gaining admin rights, it what you do after root that could semi-brick it. As long as your bootloader is locked you can use SEUS to fully repair the phone from brick anyways (which is highly unlikely to happen) Just see here for stuff that is safe to remove after root and you will be ok.
You are not flashing the .img since thats for people with an unlocked bootloader. Just follow the guide at the top of my post and all will be good. If you remove/freeze the bloat your phone will run better anyways. Since rooting and freezing bloat anything i have thrown at my phone has caused it no problems apart from some games on FPSE.
i used the above guide and im now on rooted 2.3.3
and yea i stupidy semi-bricked mine i forgot to put usb debugging on before flashing ha but yea seus update sorted that out
flashed again, rooted, then OTA update
hI,
first of all I don't want to pollute this tread with stupid questions since there are stickies about this phone. I've read them but I still have some questions.
I personally own an HD2 and I'm totally new to a native android device with new rules and new methods of flashing different roms and rooting. So thank you for your patience. My friend wants to unlock her phone and put a custom rom on it.
The phone right now is a brand new T-mobile mytouch 4g with android version 2.3.5.
the most important thing will be the sim unlock.
Now, I'm not asking what the best rom is because it's a silly question, personally I don't link much sense roms for the HD2, so I was thinking something based on CM7, but will see about that.
So I found many guides about rooting and perm S off but my question is, what does it mean? I'm new to this terms, and I really don't know what they mean, eventhough the guide seems pretty simple I want to be sure of not messing the phone up because it's not mine.
My goal is: having root and superuser permission and sim unlock, also to be able to flash to another rom
Thank you very much.
They mytouch comes with a locked bootloader. Basically the bootloader in encrypted with a security measure that doesn't allow changes to the software of the phone. Aka s-on
If you want to flash a new rom you have get passed the encryption which gives you s-off. Follow the downgrade guide to get the phone back to android 2.2.1
Once you do that follow the g-free rooting method to achive full root and similar unlock.
Before you do all of this you are going to want to make sure you have what we call a good eMMc chip (this is where the rom is stored on the phone). Some phones come with a bad chip and will die shortly after rooting cause the phone to be essential soft bricked with no fix available.
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They mytouch comes with a locked bootloader. Basically the bootloader in encrypted with a security measure that doesn't allow changes to the software of the phone. Aka s-on
If you want to flash a new rom you have get passed the encryption which gives you s-off. Follow the downgrade guide to get the phone back to android 2.2.1
Once you do that follow the g-free rooting method to achive full root and similar unlock.
Before you do all of this you are going to want to make sure you have what we call a good eMMc chip (this is where the rom is stored on the phone). Some phones come with a bad chip and will die shortly after rooting cause the phone to be essential soft bricked with no fix available.
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Thank you for your information how can I check about the emmc chip?
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Thank you for your information how can I check about the emmc chip?
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check eMMC chip here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081243
also, how did you get android 2.3.5? i thought the MT4G only went up to 2.3.4? O__O
sorry my bad is 2.3.4. I checked the cjip and unfortunately is M4G2DE
which is the bad one from what I understand, so there is no hope?
Thank you again for your help
materoprodutions said:
sorry my bad is 2.3.4. I checked the cjip and unfortunately is M4G2DE
which is the bad one from what I understand, so there is no hope?
Thank you again for your help
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I, personally, wouldn't risk it.
Sent from my Google Nexus 12... yep I'm from the future where Apple is no more!
I will see if I can get a replacement.... thank you
I, personally, have the "bad" chip rooted months ago on my wife's Desire S.
The "bad publicity" done for "bad chip" is VERY exaggerated.
There are failure cases. The vast majority are just fine. The ones that fail - have a good chance to fail without rooting, just by normal use.
So I'd root like no tomorrow, and in the worst case - would prepare to get a replacement if it fails. Depends on how many months of warranty you have left. If more that 2-3 months - that's more than enough time for the case of truly bad chip to go bad.
Now you can search the reports for the last 1/2 year or so, and decide yourself.
if you are willing, then by all means root. it's better than being with stock anyway. just keep in mind that the phone DOES have a possibility of bricking, and be prepared for a possible warranty replacement.
I got my S4 on release day and I have been really reluctant to root because I am happy with the way the phone is. But now I am tempted to root for 2 reasons. I want to be able to use every app in the multi window view and to be able to move stuff to the SD card.
So my question is....If i just root my phone but dont put and rom or recovery on it what would I need to do if Android or Samsung released an update? The update would not work if I was rooted correct? Can someone link me on the process I would need to do to be able to install such an update?
I believe there are root method which allows OTAs but you ll loose the root and you might need to re root again. If the root doesnt support OTAs then you will have to flahs stock firmware then update then root again.
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chris_marsh said:
I believe there are root method which allows OTAs but you ll loose the root and you might need to re root again. If the root doesnt support OTAs then you will have to flahs stock firmware then update then root again.
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Ok so for example if I followed QB Kings video in the Android Development Forum on rooting my S4 do you know if that root would allow for OTA's? I going back in forth in my head on if I should root or not. On one hand I would want these extra features I mentioned but on the other hand is it worth the hassle of dealing with the OTA update process.
Based on my limited knowledge, it is possible that if you take OTA, you may not be able to root again (if the OTA patches that root exploit). Hopefully the awesome Devs on here will be able to find another exploit, but it is possible that you may not be able to re-root.
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Ok so for example if I followed QB Kings video in the Android Development Forum on rooting my S4 do you know if that root would allow for OTA's? I going back in forth in my head on if I should root or not. On one hand I would want these extra features I mentioned but on the other hand is it worth the hassle of dealing with the OTA update process.
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Sorry no idea about that method. You should ask in that thread you might will get proper info. And BTW OTA for now are provided fast but as everybody knows it takes a while for Samsung to roll out important OTAs so you might as well root than sit hoping for OTA while missing all the modding action.
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Sorry no idea about that method. You should ask in that thread you might will get proper info. And BTW OTA for now are provided fast but as everybody knows it takes a while for Samsung to roll out important OTAs so you might as well root than sit hoping for OTA while missing all the modding action.
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Very good point in not waiting around for an OTA...they do take long as hell to push out....and I will ask in the QB King thread to see how OTAs work with that root process...Thanks so much
My wife just purchased a Sprint Moto x. I have been researching root methods for it and am VERY confused. There seems to be no straight this is what firmware you need to be on, this is the procedure you need, etc it just seems to be all over the place. It would do well to have a sticky on root for these devices. But anyway, she is on 4.2.2 and I told her not to take any updates in case they patch root exploits available. Can anyone tell me for sure if root is possible for this version, and if not is there anyway to get back to a version that is capable ? And the tool needed if applicable. I would be very appreciative of any help or guidance!
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wessiide said:
My wife just purchased a Sprint Moto x. I have been researching root methods for it and am VERY confused. There seems to be no straight this is what firmware you need to be on, this is the procedure you need, etc it just seems to be all over the place. It would do well to have a sticky on root for these devices. But anyway, she is on 4.2.2 and I told her not to take any updates in case they patch root exploits available. Can anyone tell me for sure if root is possible for this version, and if not is there anyway to get back to a version that is capable ? And the tool needed if applicable. I would be very appreciative of any help or guidance!
Sent from my SCH-I545
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Go there to unlock the bootloader and follow the instructions. If an OTA update is available it's safe to take it.
Then after follow this (Only if your bootloader is unlocked already) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534850
You'll also need Motorola Fastboot as it is recommended by them.
If you root on 4.2 you need to use SlapMyMoto I think to retain root through 4.4.
Basically you pick your poison. By the way, unlocking bootloaders on non Developer edition device voids your warranty completed. So keep that in mind when choosing.
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Go there to unlock the bootloader and follow the instructions. If an OTA update is available it's safe to take it.
Then after follow this (Only if your bootloader is unlocked already) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534850
You'll also need Motorola Fastboot as it is recommended by them.
If you root on 4.2 you need to use SlapMyMoto I think to retain root through 4.4.
Basically you pick your poison. By the way, unlocking bootloaders on non Developer edition device voids your warranty completed. So keep that in mind when choosing.
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Thanks for the info. This will be my 5th rooted phone and 3rd bootloader unlock so the warranty thing means nothing to me, but I appreciate the help. Info is sporadic and inbetween on this forum.
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I have also been trying to read up on rooting the Sprint version and have had a hard time. It's in this forum in several places but not as nicely laid out as in other device forums. Basically, from what I have read, the easiest way to do this is to unlock Bootloader.
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I have also been trying to read up on rooting the Sprint version and have had a hard time. It's in this forum in several places but not as nicely laid out as in other device forums. Basically, from what I have read, the easiest way to do this is to unlock Bootloader.
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Yes you are correct, unlock your boot loader flash twrp recovery and finally flash supersu, which version of android are you currently running as there's 2 versions of tarp, 1 for jb the other for kitkat
Here's a sticky thread with all the required links http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558785
For kitkat use mfastboot (Motorola binary)instead of fastboot to flash recovery
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Or just use SlapMyMoto and use this http://sbf.droid-developers.org/download.php?device=0&file=18 for the 4.2.2 files you need.
Sorry for the confusing title, I'm coming from a Nexus 6 that was one of the easier phones to root and customize. So far I'm on month 3 with my V20 and haven't rooted it yet. If I do and receive a OTA I will obviously lose my root, but once I have an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery installed, can I just reflash SuperSU to reroot?
Thanks.
OTAs on this device overwrite the bootloader and recovery. you WILL lose root. and all methods to get it back.
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OTAs on this device overwrite the bootloader and recovery. you WILL lose root. and all methods to get it back.
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So then rooting is pointless right now?
Should have got the Pixel.
Thanks!
tjlmbklr said:
So then rooting is pointless right now?
Should have got the Pixel.
Thanks!
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Rooting isn't pointless. You still have access to all the exclusive root features you wouldn't normally have of course. Why would you want to take an OTA anyways unless you have some issue with your phone (just curious)? You could just wait for someone to post TWRP flashable updates for your variant of the V20 so that you can keep root access while still updating.
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Rooting isn't pointless. You still have access to all the exclusive root features you wouldn't normally have of course. Why would you want to take an OTA anyways unless you have some issue with your phone (just curious)? You could just wait for someone to post TWRP flashable updates for your variant of the V20 so that you can keep root access while still updating.
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I'm waiting on 7.1 and fear I will finally root and it will come along in a OTA and I will not be able to root again until someone comes up with a new form of root.
I could be way off though, like I said, noob question, I came from a Nexus 6 where root and flashing custom ROMs was a cake walk for a guy like me.
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all you need is someone who can provide updated stock roms like i do on the ls997 On the sprint model we have the latest OTA applied
Yeah but as you know development on the H990ds isn't exactly buzzing.
Neither are the other devices anymore
I guess. Surprises me as the V20 is a fantastic device.
But LG didn't make anything easy for you devs.