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So I just got back from the Verizon store about 10 minutes ago and I thought that I would write my impressions. Keep in mind this is just my opinion and I figured it might help some out that have not had the chance to try the Incredible or may be on the fence with it or the Nexus One (yes, I know that the N1 is no longer coming to Verizon =( but for some a provider means nothing)
Some up front information. I am a long time iPhone user (owned all three) and switched to the ATT band Nexus One about a month ago. I personally, love Android and I am very happy with the switch. I have the newest build of Cyanogen Mod (2.6.33.2). I didn't really do any up front tests (i.e, speedtest,browser, or acid etc) , and this review is more to do with my impressions I did however run the two phones side by side and spent over an hour with it.
Ok, so let's get to it. The first thing is aesthetics and to be honest I thought the Incredible looked nice, and also felt pretty good in hand. It seems to be built good and it seems to have the exact same "rubbery" feeling that the battery cover of the N1 has, but it is on the entire back of the phone. The back cover didn't bother me to much at all and I felt that it added to the whole "droid" feel that Verizon and it's partners are trying to pull off. There are a couple things that would worry me if I was an Incredible owner and that is the material they used when making the phone. I couldn't get over the fact that the phone felt a little cheap, but I still get the feeling that it would last if dropped. I don't really get that feeling with my Nexus One. I feel the build of the Nexus One is a little better (i.e, aluminum), but I have always felt that the phone would not with stand the slightest bit of fall from even 3-5 feet (I have never dropped mine so I really have no experience, again this is only my opinion based on how the phones feel).
The Incredible is fast, really fast. I had the same feeling when I used my Nexus One for the first time and as far as I can see there really is not a huge difference in speed between the two phones. But, there is a giant difference in "touch" the Incredible eats my Nexus One's lunch when it comes to overall touch and snappiness. The new sensor really adds to the whole Android experience and of all the Android phones I have tried none so far even come close to the touch screen on the Incredible. My Nexus One was great and the iPhone's I had was even better, but finally we have an Android phone (in my opinion) that not only competes with the iPhone on touchscreen and multitouch technology, but the Incredible one ups it. It really made the whole experience a lot more enjoyable on the phone. Everything, seems to work like Android was designed to work.
The next big thing I noticed and tested was the N1 trackball vs the Incredible's optical sensor. The sensor was nice and I have mixed feelings between the two. I mean everyone knows that an optical sensor looks better and should last a hell of a lot longer than a trackball and I have always felt that the trackball on the N1 looked way out of place. I have gotten really used to the trackball and I use it quite a bit and it is a lot easier to use than the optical sensor. You won't see a big difference at all if you are just flipping between screens or jumping to a text needed in the browser, but you will when choosing apps (but, really who does that anyways when you have touch) Like I said I have mixed feelings I love the look of the optical sensor, but I really feel the trackball is a little more responsive. It took me a while to get used to the trackball so I am sure if I owned the phone I would get a little more used to it and my opinion would change. I must say that I don't use the trackball often so if I had the choice I am sure I would choose the optical sensor.
Some of the other things I noticed that didn't make a huge impression was Sense vs Vanilla Android. I have used sense off and on with both my N1 (Modaco ROM), and my fiance's Droid Eris. I don't have much of an opinion, but I would give just a slight edge to Vanilla Android just because of the update situation however, if Google really adjusts Android like they are rumored to do and the update situation is non existent my opinion would change and I would like Sense. I guess we will see, but as far as some saying that having Sense will bog down Android I must say that I didn't experience that at all. They both ran just as smooth and will the Incredible's wonderful touch sensor I would give a slight favor to the Incredible with sense over the N1.
I spent about ten minutes with the camera/video camera on both phones and although I couldn't tell a huge difference in the pictures and videos (I know the Incredible sports a 8 mp and the N1 5mp), but I was also not able to upload any pictures to a computer to blow them up. I did send them to my email and I will post later if I notice a big jump or not. I still would give the Incredible the advantage just because why wouldn't I? 8mp is always going to beat 5mp and dual flash is nice.
Next one of my biggest gripes about the N1 and that is the touch sensor buttons on the bottom of the phone. The N1 like many probably know work and work well, but you have to touch the top two thirds of the label to get them to respond at all and I did find for the first little bit of owning the phone I often touched the home screen button when typing a text or email. With the Incredible these work perfectly. Not only do you not have to aim your finger, but they also worked every time I attempted to use them. They are in a different order than the N1 so that took me a minute to get used to, but no biggie. This is the way HTC and Google should of made the N1 work and personally I think they got it right with the Incredible.
I don't have a problem with my N1 when it comes to the 3G dropping issue and that could be that I got the ATT one or maybe I just got lucky. I did try to cover the bottom of the Incredible and it didn't seem to dip at all. Also, there was a Moto Droid right next to the Incredible and they seemed to get the same service so that should be a relief for many.
I wish that I would of had a couple days with this phone so that I could test many other aspects with it like the battery, further tests on 3G and wifi, the overall build, and even the speed. Really the Incredible is a nice phone and in a lot of ways I feel that it lives up to the hype. In my opinion I found my self wishing that I had the screen touch sensor in my N1 it really makes a giant difference even tho the N1 isn't all that bad. I could really do without the extra mega pixels in the camera and to my knowledge they both record at the same levels (I may be wrong with this and if I am then I am sorry). I do wish that the touch sensors on the bottom of the N1 worked as well as the Incredible, but I can live without it. Like I said sense vs Vanilla until I hear differently I would rather get the quicker updates, but if Google addresses this issue I would love to Sense on my N1 (Yes, I know I can with Modaco Sense ROM). The trackball is something that doesn't make a huge difference, but I do worry about how well it will hold up after months of usage.
My final feelings are that although the Incredible is the better phone it is not worth switching over to Verizon for it (although yes I do believe that Verizon is the better provider, but I have a family plan and a contract and that is what I am speaking of). The Incredible looks and feels nice, but I must say I like the overall look and feel of the N1 a little more. Like I said, I couldn't get over the fact that the Incredible felt a little fragile because of the plastic material the phone is made of, but then again the N1's build doesn't feel all that more solid of a phone. The N1 screen looked to me to be a little wider (I could be wrong) and although it sounds wierd it did make a difference, at least to me it did. It will be interesting to see when the Incredible will get the desk dock and car dock because these are big selling points to me with my N1. The deal breaker is the touch screen and how it works. This is the biggest selling point of this phone and that makes me want it, but there is one big thing with my N1 that I really enjoy and that is the wonderful developers behind the N1. I love how easy Google made to root this phone and I really think that a lot of developers make our phones all the more fun to use. Until, I can see the Incredible get these abilities (I am sure they will with great people like Paul the other day rooting the Desire) I would have to go with my N1.
I hope this was helpful to some and that people don't think I was to harsh to either side. I tried my hardest to not come off like a "fanboi" and tried to be as unbiased as possible. I really went in today looking to see if this phone lived up to its hype and I believe it did. I can't see many flaws with owning this phone and I welcome all of our new Android brothers and sisters to the party. Let me know how you all think and thanks for reading I know it's long as hell. Again, A huge thank you to all you developers that pour your hard work into making all of our lives easier. You really make our phones and the Android world all the much better than the competition. Keep up the good work, we love you guys!
Very nice review! For some reason though, even if I could get an Incredible.. I don't think I would o_0 I really don't know why, but.. even though it has better specs (well, not that many matter) I just don't even think I actually "want" it. Is that weird?
They're both great phones, and really are just going to make Android better. Wait, you said the Nexus's screen was wider? Pictures really don't show that.. I thought the Incredible had a wider screen. Weirdness..
Fair enough. I'd say it's just a case of the Incredible coming out later, hence with better hardware. Newer stuff almost always have better components. That's just the way gadgets are. The thing that irks me are people saying that the "old" stuff SUCKS now because there's "new" stuff now. These are the idiots that should be shot.
I too considered the Incredible, but for some reason I felt pangs of loss when I considered not having my Nexy anymore.
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Wow, great comparison. I read every word. I can't wait to test out the Incredible myself this weekend!
It seems like it's a much better phone in almost every way (touchscreen, soft buttons, camera).
The only downside is what will happen with 2.2. This has yet to be proven, so it can't be counted as a negative -- yet. Time will tell. Until then, I'm definitely envious since in my eyes it is definitely the better phone. Although I think the N1 is definitely sexier
My mom just got this phone today, and I got to say, Sense UI on that phone is a lot faster than Sense UI on the Nexus.
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My mom just got this phone today, and I got to say, Sense UI on that phone is a lot faster than Sense UI on the Nexus.
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That's cause its not made to be on the Nexus, and Paul doesn't have the Desire kernel source to make it a complete build. I don't even know how much of a speed increase that would cause regardless.. I don't like when people say this (what you said) because the Nexus was never made to run Sense UI, and therefore doesn't have the correct optimization, the stock 2.1 Google experience is the Nexus's child.. not Sense. Im assuming you knew this.. though. Oh and edit, everything I said could possibly be wrong. I am not a ROM baker, or developer.
I wish the things that made the Incredible better interested me, I dont take many pictures.. my touchscreen doesn't irritate me.. and the soft buttons do their job well. Another good score for Android though, with next being the Evo - and those new phones Dell are working on.
Eclair~ said:
Very nice review! For some reason though, even if I could get an Incredible.. I don't think I would o_0 I really don't know why, but.. even though it has better specs (well, not that many matter) I just don't even think I actually "want" it. Is that weird?
They're both great phones, and really are just going to make Android better. Wait, you said the Nexus's screen was wider? Pictures really don't show that.. I thought the Incredible had a wider screen. Weirdness..
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No that isn't weird at all and I feel the same. It isn't a big jump from the Nexus One and even if it was I don't feel comfortable doing it until developers have had their way and have root. It will be interesting to see. If I was going to make a jump (which as of now I wont) I would make the jump to the EVO. The Incredible just doesn't have enough over the N1 specs wise.
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Fair enough. I'd say it's just a case of the Incredible coming out later, hence with better hardware. Newer stuff almost always have better components. That's just the way gadgets are. The thing that irks me are people saying that the "old" stuff SUCKS now because there's "new" stuff now. These are the idiots that should be shot.
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I agree to the fullest! I saw some kids on Engadget saying that the Incredivble is faster in every aspect than the N1 and that is not even close to the fact. It is a great phone and yes Verizon and HTC have fixed some of the N1's flaws but all in all this phone is a plastic Desire (that is not a bad thing at all and to each his own) I just wanted to let people know the impressions I got from the phone. To be honest I hope this phone is even more popular than the Moto Droid and then a bunch of people will get it and get more developers interested in Android. I hope it is a huge mainstream success. I love the idea that I have never seen a N1 rather than mine. They can have all that. I love how easy it is to root the N1 and all the talented developers behind it.
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Wow, great comparison. I read every word. I can't wait to test out the Incredible myself this weekend!
It seems like it's a much better phone in almost every way (touchscreen, soft buttons, camera).
The only downside is what will happen with 2.2. This has yet to be proven, so it can't be counted as a negative -- yet. Time will tell. Until then, I'm definitely envious since in my eyes it is definitely the better phone. Although I think the N1 is definitely sexier
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I agree the Nexus is a lot sexier. I held them up by each other and both look like great designs. The Incredible has nice specs but most are just small upgrades the Incredible's touch screen is the big difference, but so is the N1 being Google's baby and we will get the upgrades a lot faster. That to me is a bigger selling point. If that changes then I might change my mind. The internal memory, better camera, and better buttons just don't warrant a provider jump in my eyes.
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My mom just got this phone today, and I got to say, Sense UI on that phone is a lot faster than Sense UI on the Nexus.
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Oh yeah I definately agree a hundred percent. It is a whole different ball game. To be fair Paul's Modoco is still in alpha and it is amazing that he even got it to work. We are lucky that we even get the chance to try it out to be honest.
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That's cause its not made to be on the Nexus, and Paul doesn't have the Desire kernel source to make it a complete build. I don't even know how much of a speed increase that would cause regardless.. I don't like when people say this (what you said) because the Nexus was never made to run Sense UI, and therefore doesn't have the correct optimization, the stock 2.1 Google experience is the Nexus's child.. not Sense. Im assuming you knew this.. though. Oh and edit, everything I said could possibly be wrong. I am not a ROM baker, or developer.
I wish the things that made the Incredible better interested me, I dont take many pictures.. my touchscreen doesn't irritate me.. and the soft buttons do their job well. Another good score for Android though, with next being the Evo - and those new phones Dell are working on.
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You seem to have the same impression as me. I think that stock Android runs just as good on the Nexus One as Sense does on the Incredible. It comes down to overall what people prefer and for me I prefer Vanilla. None of us will be on top of the Android game for long. Every couple of months a better phone is coming out. It happened to the Moto Droid, now the Nexus One, and soon the Incredible with the EVO 4G. Overall, as Android grows we will all reap the benefits. I really think that the specs in the N1 will be relevant for quite awhile and we wont see many phones that completely stomp it. At least not for another year or so. I am happy with my purchase (especially getting rid of that damn iPhone 3Gs)
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No that isn't weird at all and I feel the same. It isn't a big jump from the Nexus One and even if it was I don't feel comfortable doing it until developers have had their way and have root. It will be interesting to see. If I was going to make a jump (which as of now I wont) I would make the jump to the EVO. The Incredible just doesn't have enough over the N1 specs wise.
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Good review man. I also agree that I'd be more interested in the Evo than the Incredible. Partly because of the bigger screen, partly due to the 4G (though my current provider's, T-mobile, HSPA+ might be faster), and partly because I can't stomach paying $40 more a month over Sprint or T-mo.
Do we know yet if the Evo 4G will have the Maxtouch touchscreen?
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I agree the Nexus is a lot sexier
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I've heard this over and over again and I have to agree - The Droid incredible has a look that pales in comparison to the N1.
Having a great phone that also looks amazing is a huge draw to the reason we get new technology (just ask apple and the people who actually bought a $1700 MacBook air). If looks weren't important for our hardware then we would all be driving economy cars with better MPG specs and having Droid incredibles, instead though we have nice looking cars and a near perfect Nexus 1 that looks amazing.
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Good review man. I also agree that I'd be more interested in the Evo than the Incredible. Partly because of the bigger screen, partly due to the 4G (though my current provider's, T-mobile, HSPA+ might be faster), and partly because I can't stomach paying $40 more a month over Sprint or T-mo.
Do we know yet if the Evo 4G will have the Maxtouch touchscreen?
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I don't know if we know for sure if it will or not, but if I was a betting man (and i def am) I would say that HTC and Sprint would be stupid not to. I also believe that I read somewhere that all HTC phones will now have that sensor in it. I can't prove that as I am going to work now, but I will look for the source while I am at work and try to post it (don't you love smart phones). I know people laugh at the term "superphone" but when you compare these phones to the iPhone or Blackberriers these phones are def more of a "superphone" than a smartphone. Apple is going to have their hands full this year and it will be very interesting to see how it plays out. I for one don't care what Apple does in June I would be stupid to jump off the Android band wagon we just have way to much going on.
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Do we know yet if the Evo 4G will have the Maxtouch touchscreen?
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Yep, Maxtouch!
http://androidandme.com/2010/04/news/htc-incredible-and-evo-4g-to-feature-new-maxtouch-sensors/
IMO even the EVO is only worth upgrading to if you need 720p recording or would value HDMI out. Personally, I would love to have HDMI (don't care for the HD recording all that much) but it still wouldn't justify ditching my N1. I'm not going to upgrade until the N1 ceases to run newer Android software effectively or significant processing upgrades are made (ie. Dual Core). Who knows I may change my mind but that's how I feel right now.
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IMO even the EVO is only worth upgrading to if you need 720p recording or would value HDMI out. Personally, I would love to have HDMI (don't care for the HD recording all that much) but it still wouldn't justify ditching my N1. I'm not going to upgrade until the N1 ceases to run newer Android software effectively or significant processing upgrades are made (ie. Dual Core). Who knows I may change my mind but that's how I feel right now.
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I'm with you. Most picky gadget dweebs tend to upgrade for the sake of having the latest and greatest even though it's only marginally better than the last "toy" they had. I upgrade my phone like I upgrade my PCs: it's only worth upgrading if the new stuff is at least 10 times more powerful than the last one. Which in most cases can take a few years of waiting. AND it's gotta cover what I "need". Most stuff that I "want" should be an included bonus, which the N1 covers quite well (A2DP, wifi tethering).
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Or you value a bigger screen.
Or 4G.
Or Sprint.
Or like the style/looks better.
And so on
The touch buttons on the Incredible seem to be actually on the button, unlike the Nexus. And the camera is amazing!
So far i tested Raging Thunder 2 and Dungeon Hunter.
Both are running a little choppy on the EVO while they are smooth as butter on the N1. Not horribly laggy but the you can clearly see the difference.
I tried to disable Sense and any live wallpaper, but still the results are the same.
I hope this is a software issue which is going to be fixed prior to release.
ewwwww, I really hope your right.
You hope i am right or wrong? lol.
Less complex games are running just fine on both devices. It is the more graphically complex games that are slightly choppy on the EVO.
does the Nexus have 2.2?
this is to be semi expected since the EVO has senseUI.
Check out this video. At the start you can see the apps list scrolling is a bit choppy on the EVO, then in Linpack the score is only about 5.8. My HTC Incredible gets a score of 6.8 normally.
Finally in the 3d benchmark it is the slowest. Even lower than a Motorola Droid! What is going on here, is something making the EVO slower than equal spec'd phones?(N1, Incredible)
the Nexus has 2.2, so it's bound to be faster. the Droid has stock 2.1, so it's not working as hard to run senseUI.
looks about right to me.
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the Nexus has 2.2, so it's bound to be faster. the Droid has stock 2.1, so it's not working as hard to run senseUI.
looks about right to me.
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wondering why the incredible is scoring higher though (Post above yours)
unless its just a problem with the prelaunch software on it?
Honestly, if the evo is going to not perform better then the droid that could very well kill it for me, if i'm going to upgrade i'm going to upgrade to the best, not the second best.
I'm really hoping these devices tested are running a version of Eclair that hasn't been optimized yet. I mean, there's absolutely no way HTC could downgrade their flagship device compared to the Nexus One and Droid. I'll be ridiculously disappointed if these speed tests are accurate representations of the final Evo release.
You're splitting hairs regarding 3D performance. JIT this the main benchmark you should care about now. Next on Google's plate is optimizing 3D performance.
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Check out this video. At the start you can see the apps list scrolling is a bit choppy on the EVO, then in Linpack the score is only about 5.8. My HTC Incredible gets a score of 6.8 normally.
Finally in the 3d benchmark it is the slowest. Even lower than a Motorola Droid! What is going on here, is something making the EVO slower than equal spec'd phones?(N1, Incredible)
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well so much for getting this day 0
*holds money in hand anxiously*
mrono said:
Honestly, if the evo is going to not perform better then the droid that could very well kill it for me, if i'm going to upgrade i'm going to upgrade to the best, not the second best.
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Jesus christ, all of you guys are whiny babies, go cry about how there is a 1 FPS DIFFERENCE somewhere else. I'm fairly certain this is a god damn software issue that can be fixed, especially with 2.2. I find it so silly to see people say things like this are going to kill getting the evo for them, like i said, go cry about how everything in this phone is TOP OF THE LINE except 1 feature, you can't have a god damn perfect phone whiny babies.
And by the way, i kept myself from using another b word instead of babies to keep myself from getting banned .
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Jesus christ, all of you guys are whiny babies, go cry about how there is a 1 FPS DIFFERENCE somewhere else. I'm fairly certain this is a god damn software issue that can be fixed, especially with 2.2. I find it so silly to see people say things like this are going to kill getting the evo for them, like i said, go cry about how everything in this phone is TOP OF THE LINE except 1 feature, you can't have a god damn perfect phone whiny babies.
And by the way, i kept myself from using another b word instead of babies to keep myself from getting banned .
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I agree. I guess I'm not as big of a "phone geek" as others appear to be. I'm gonna be using my Evo for (of course) making/receiving calls, internet, some music, and social networking. I have an iPod touch and Nintendo DSi for gaming. I don't need to be wasting what little battery power I have on senseless games. I can't believe something that minute would stop someone from getting a phone. If you want a gaming system invest in a PSP or Nintendo DS.
WOW ok did you forget to take your medication today? I didn't read that anyone was crying they were merely stating what they have seen. Don't be such a fan boy.
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Jesus christ, all of you guys are whiny babies, go cry about how there is a 1 FPS DIFFERENCE somewhere else. I'm fairly certain this is a god damn software issue that can be fixed, especially with 2.2. I find it so silly to see people say things like this are going to kill getting the evo for them, like i said, go cry about how everything in this phone is TOP OF THE LINE except 1 feature, you can't have a god damn perfect phone whiny babies.
And by the way, i kept myself from using another b word instead of babies to keep myself from getting banned .
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WOW ok did you forget to take your medication today? I didn't read that anyone was crying they were merely stating what they have seen. Don't be such a fan boy.
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Actually, yes, i did, but my hangover medication is beside the point. If you weren't so obtuse, you would know that crying is a way to say complaining, especially over something so silly like this. Lastly, fanboy? Really? I respect all phones, although i love android phones, i'm very fair to others. I love the iphone and always will(a bit bored of the OS, still love it though), really love webos and the pre(though i suck at using it), and i personally love the nexus one. I am far from a fanboy, I just realize that the EVO is easily the best phone on the market right now, and to say it isn't would be ignorant, and to not buy it because it scored slightly, SLIGHTLY lower on a test, which is very likely a software problem, is something a crybaby complains about.
agreed with above. Crying in a thread is not going to help anything. Instead try and figure out WHY it is 1fps lower.
I find it so funny the flip-floppers based on a few small reports. Let's see the Incredible needs to have its optical mouse calibrated, it's Battery Meter updated so that it won't require the charge, turn off, turn on, charge again to gain its 100% actual charge, the intermittent hit the power on button to wake and it doesn't wake right away issue. It's not a perfect phone! OH MY!
With the EVO you are getting every bit the phone the incredible is and then some. 4G(not applicable to all), 30% increased screen size, Brilliant TFT screen, HTC Exchange enhancements(some of these features were stripped in the Incredible), ROOTED already, You Tube HD, Front facing camera. There are a few more I am sure.
If you don't like the way the phone feels in your hands then its not inferior its just not for you. If you think that the 3D features are not up to your standards than the phone is not for you if you can't wait for updates and improvements which are surely to arrive sooner than later. I don't care for 3D so the phone will be exactly what I want. I have the Incredible as well and will keep both.
If there was just one phone that would cater to everyone then that company will never need to make another phone again.
Holding back for a phone based on a few reports and not having tried it out is kinda silly don't cha think?
Wait until it arrives, lay out your cash and take a test drive.
Big deal..
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Actually, yes, i did, but my hangover medication is beside the point. If you weren't so obtuse, you would know that crying is a way to say complaining, especially over something so silly like this. Lastly, fanboy? Really? I respect all phones, although i love android phones, i'm very fair to others. I love the iphone and always will(a bit bored of the OS, still love it though), really love webos and the pre(though i suck at using it), and i personally love the nexus one. I am far from a fanboy, I just realize that the EVO is easily the best phone on the market right now, and to say it isn't would be ignorant, and to not buy it because it scored slightly, SLIGHTLY lower on a test, which is very likely a software problem, is something a crybaby complains about.
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Another thing I like to keep in mind is potential...our rooted optimized Heros are running Neocore at some 33 fps (blows the sox off all three devices in the above video). Imagine what'll happen when the devs getta hold of a device w/ twice the computing power!!
There's speculation that the demonstrated 2.1 is a preliminary build so that may speak a lot as to why there seems to be a performance issue. I personally don't care what my phone runs like when I first get it, cuz I know a stock ROM will rarely perform as well as a custom cooked ROM.
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the Nexus has 2.2, so it's bound to be faster. the Droid has stock 2.1, so it's not working as hard to run senseUI.
looks about right to me.
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My N1 was running those games fine on 2.1.
It is not a matter of crying about 1fps....
the games literally stutter when you play them, it is not as if they are just slower.
like there is some bottleneck somewhere in the software (maybe drivers) that is preventing the phone from reaching better performance.
I tried to disable Sense UI and the live wallpaper but so no improvement.
I also don't think this is related to JIT, as it seems like a GPU issue.
Anyone knows if there is a command i can run on the phone that will show me what the CPU clocks at?
DO NOT GET THE EVO (if you already have a Nexus One)
I just got the EVO and it just does not compare to the Nexus one.
I rarely every open up new threads, but I just don't want to see anyone jump ship based off the "specs".
I have several smart phones. I've tried to dethrone my nexus one with: HD2, EVO 4G, iPhone 3GS (I'm about to run out of money lol). And none of which give you the experience the Nexus One does.
Biggest Issues:
The LCD screen makes the colors look washed out (blacks seem like grays, and reds seem pinker) compared to the N1 with it's AMOLED
Sense slows the device down noticeably (and you can't turn sense off don't believe the hype)
The N1 makes the EVO seem clunky: The EVO gets slightly thicker/fatter as it get near the camera
Pixel Density! The EVO and the N1 has the same amount of pixels but because the N1 screen is smaller things end up being more crisp! especially noticeable with live Wall papers!
You can't use default Android messaging, nor can you use default Android Contacts. HTC contact (IMHO) is really ugly, opinions aside its freaking slow!
Track Ball! Man! I did not know how useful that thing was until now! lol. It (to me) is the most efficient solution for selecting text, without fumbling around with directional pads on the virtual keyboard, especially annoying if you have something like Swype (swype is awesome btw, there's now way I'm doing away with that).
I'm sorry guys I don't mean to rant and I DON'T regret my purchase. I'm going to try and load froyo on there and see if that fixes most the issues, but HTC SHOULD have given us a way to shut off Sense!
I'll admit I have to do some more testing, but the N1 has the lead right now. I'll try really hard to get some videos and pictures up.
I have not doubt this great community that I've been a part of for years will address most of these issues but's it's going to be a bumpy ride
If anyone has these two devices, let me know how you feel.
Thanks for reading this.
Turn sense off by going to settings. Applications. Find htc sense and force close it... I saw it on a video or something. Yes sense can be shut off.
It don't have anything I want I love my n1. The Evo don't beat it imo.
your'e wrong
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Turn sense off by going to settings. Applications. Find htc sebaceous and force close it... I saw it on a video or something. Yes sense can be shut off.
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Actually sir, you CAN'T.
With froyo (no sense) it will be closer to the N1, only things I like about the evo is the screen size (not so much anymore) and the camera.
A flagship is the lead ship in a fleet of vessels, a designation given on account of being either the largest, fastest, newest, most heavily armed or, for publicity purposes, the best known.
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...except "largest", "newest", and "best known"
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Actually yes you can. Atleast here's proof.
http://www.gadgetsdna.com/turn-off-sense-ui-in-htc-evo-4g-run-stock-android-2-1/3142/
Its a good choice for someone who likes Sprint and I am glad that they finally got a highend superphone. It was long overdue for the poor people that Love Sprint service (its great in my area) but have had to suffer for crappy phones all these years.
That being said I can see ditching my Nexi and my Even More Plus plan to sign a contract for basically the same phone. Nexi takes the cake with its super fast updates.
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Turn sense off by going to settings. Applications. Find htc sense and force close it... I saw it on a video or something. Yes sense can be shut off.
It don't have anything I want I love my n1. The Evo don't beat it imo.
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I was under the same impression, but you can only turn off the "Sense Home" watch that video closely, look at the bar up-top (htc themed), not to mention I followed the instructions to the T and I tried to develop my own strategy. No luck
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I was under the same impression, but you can only turn off the "Sense Home" watch that video closely, look at the bar up-top (htc themed), not to mention I followed the instructions to the T and I tried to develop my own strategy. No luck
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Well ill take ya word on it since I don't have one. But that's what I saw. No biggie long live the nexus one.
Actually no you can't
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Actually yes you can. Atleast here's proof.
http://www.gadgetsdna.com/turn-off-sense-ui-in-htc-evo-4g-run-stock-android-2-1/3142/
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Read the text in the video you linked. I'll quote it: "Let's be clear, this is for the home screen only. Other parts of the phone still run sense"
4 seconds into the video that disclaimer was recently added (lower right had corner in blue box).
Long live the nexus one!
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Well ill take ya word on it since I don't have one. But that's what I saw. No biggie long live the nexus one.
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Long live the Nexus One!
I beg to differ
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With froyo (no sense) it will be closer to the N1, only things I like about the evo is the screen size (not so much anymore) and the camera.
...except "largest", "newest", and "best known"
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I actually give the edge to the nexus one reason is: Number 1 and Number 4 in my post:
The LCD screen makes the colors look washed out (blacks seem like grays, and reds seem pinker) compared to the N1 with it's AMOLED
Pixel Density! The EVO and the N1 has the same amount of pixels but because the N1 screen is smaller things end up being more crisp! especially noticeable with live Wall papers!
I just hope someday that there will be a "mini usb to HDMI out" cord. I believe I said that right. I'd love to have the N1 appear on the tv screen. Anyway, I order my N1 this monday, I can't wait.
I had the desire before swapping + cash for a nexus one. Same thing there. each time u stopped the htc sense and cleared the defaults, the minute u press home, htc sense reloaded itself. The reason for not being able to stop sense is that htc actually removed the android launcher. all u have to do is install a launcher , go and stop the htc sense in settings-app-..... and then press home and select the launcher u installed.
or u can just install a launcher, and then install home switcher from market.
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Read the text in the video you linked. I'll quote it: "Let's be clear, this is for the home screen only. Other parts of the phone still run sense"
4 seconds into the video that disclaimer was recently added (lower right had corner in blue box).
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I didn't even see that ****. Yea long live the nexus. Lol
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HUH? LOL sorry im not up on slang or internet lingo
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HUH? LOL sorry im not up on slang or internet lingo
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http://www.acronymfinder.com/In-My-Honest-Opinion-(IMHO).html
Just got me Evo, and I have Nexus one still. Well, I agree with OP when it comes to washed out colors, etc. BUT, that complaint can only be made if you have Nexus, this phone still blows everything else out of the water, aside from Nexus. I really liked HD2, minus the WinMo, so EVO really caught my eye lol.
I am still on T-Mobile, got Evo because I can still return and get out of contract with Sprint within 30 days... T-Mobile + Nexus = **** in my area... I get great 3G speeds (1.5mb down/400up) which is higher than what Sprint gets me, but it's so inconsistent. Constant 3g timeouts, takes ages to load pages because of it. Constant need to reboot due to texts not going out (tried all radios). Calls not coming through, list goes on. Having a great phone with all these issues is a killer to me, specially when I'd like to have data with me since I listen to Pandora in my car.
Anyways, this rant is mostly about Tmobile and Nexus combo, so for me the switch was justifiable, but phone to phone, I would still give the crown to Nexus.
I looked at the Evo in Best Buy today, the colors on screen are definitely lacking, as well as the pixel issue. Everything seemed stretched to it's limit.
I'm sticking with my N1, I love it to much.
I just went to the sprint store and played with the evo and was much more impressed then I thought I would be with its build quality. It felt very solid and I love the smooth back of the device. But I now 100% hate sense UI without a doubt. The phone was slower and laggy and this phone is brand new so its not bogged down yet.
damn, maybe i can convince my family to stick to current provider (ATT); we are planning on switching to Sprint because we can get 2x minutes, everyone (4 lines) gets data for about the same amount we are paying at ATT (iphone data only)
coverage isn't a issue since i'm in the dc/metro area
EDIT: never was a fan of Sense UI; had installed Paul's sense rom on my N1 and had to chance to normal android launcher; to me, sense has too much going on and i don't need all of that stuff
I am starting to be torn about my Evo and the upcoming Iphone. I have rode with Android from the beginning. Even jumping carriers so that I could get the Evo. I am reading the Live Blog from the Apple conference and I am slightly jealous...
I despise Stevie, but I must admit that he always comes up with some extra slickness that you need in your life.
The only thing that seems like a significant improvement is the display other than that the iPhone isn't conjuring up alot of envy for me right now.
I agree...I'll stick with Android!
He can't touch the Evo IMO
I don't care how cool the new iPhone is, AT&T still blows.
I was kinda interested in the new imovie. Records in full HD w/ flash on. You can create edit with transitions right from the phone. Even add any music that you have on the device as a soundtrack.
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I am starting to be torn about my Evo and the upcoming Iphone.
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I'm not. All the cool stuff about the EVO that I loved last night haven't suddenly disappeared this morning. So far, nothing really revolutionary about "iOS4." Plus, considering the downside (closed ecosystem, AT&T only, etc.), I still like the EVO better.
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I am starting to be torn about my Evo and the upcoming Iphone. I have rode with Android from the beginning. Even jumping carriers so that I could get the Evo. I am reading the Live Blog from the Apple conference and I am slightly jealous...
I despise Stevie, but I must admit that he always comes up with some extra slickness that you need in your life.
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You still have time.. 30 days return policy if you want to get the new iPhone 4
The only major improvement I'm seeing so far is the screen, and that's a lot less impressive than expected when it's still on a 3.5 inch screen.
The gyroscope is also sort of neat, I guess, but it's no reason to change phones.
The camera also looks rather impressive, but I can't help but wonder whether it's compressed at all. After all, Jobs mentioned that nothing has been done to the recorded video after the user is done filming. From what I've seen, HTC compreses the hell out of their video files, something that might be changeable by software.
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I'm not. All the cool stuff about the EVO that I loved last night haven't suddenly disappeared this morning. So far, nothing really revolutionary about "iOS4." Plus, considering the downside (closed ecosystem, AT&T only, etc.), I still like the EVO better.
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That's a biggie for me too. I have the Ipad and Ipod Touch, both hacked precisely because I need my freedom.
I think they made some nice changes, but not enough for me to switch back from the Evo/Android to iPhone. I'm gone from the Fanboi ranks.
While I must admit, the fluidity of the iOS is nice, refined, etc etc...Millions of apps (1/512th of which you'd actually use daily) and accessories out the whazoo...android/Evo is still nice.
Let's be realistic, iMovie?...on a 3.5 inch screen? Or the resolution...on a 3.5 inch screen?...it's pointless. It's a tiny screen, I mean even a 4.3 inch screen with those specs would be mildly thrilling.
Gyro?....Meh...not a gamer so I don't care...
It's a nice phone, but I like my Evo more. The only thing I hate about the Evo is that I got spoiled with a huge screen, I hated it at first and felt that I made a mistake in buying it because it's bigger...but now I look at my Hero and think..."How the hell will I ever go back to a small screen like that!?"
If he surprised me with a 3.8 or 4.0 or even 4.3 screen with that resolution I would have to consider it heavily and in fact would have upgraded my 3GS for it. But at 3.5 inch screen I don't care that he packs in that kind of resolution. My EVO is not my movie studio or camera. They were put in place for moments you are in a pinch.
You can have flash on full time as well while recording video. It's call Torch on and Video On
The iOS4 is nothing much. Battery life will remain to be seen. The can claim better battery life because he upgraded the processor (efficient) and kept the screen size smaller. A good move for battery life but not a good move for people who would like a larger screen.
WP7 will require at least a 3.8" screen to start. So it will be interesting to see what happens next with them.
evo vs. iphone, I'll take evo.
Sorry iPhone, for all your sexiness you're missing too much.
1) AT&T is trash, heard nothing but complaints
2) replaceable batteries + Micro SD cards? yes please.
3) completely closed architecture vs. complete openness? I'll take android.
4) I have an iPod Touch so I already can do everything except make phone calls, thats what my Evo is for
iphone4 video chat only on wifi! Not on 3G or 4G like EVO. AT&T sucks!
And only from iphone4 to iphone4. Can you say "locked in"?
Not regretting my EVO purchase one bit!
I can Qik or Fring/Skype video call on 3G or 4G or WiFi
the new iphone isnt bad
if we all think about this....our phones and the new iphone are kind of tapped out. There isnt much more to be done with phones anymore.
Sorry guys and girls, I had a moment of weakness, lol. I love Android too. In fact this is my 4th Android phone. You gotta admit random "Forcecloses" is starting to get a lil old though.
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I am starting to be torn about my Evo and the upcoming Iphone. I have rode with Android from the beginning. Even jumping carriers so that I could get the Evo. I am reading the Live Blog from the Apple conference and I am slightly jealous...
I despise Stevie, but I must admit that he always comes up with some extra slickness that you need in your life.
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please give up the EVO if your even remotely thinking about the ICRAP
I've had all three iphones since their respective launch days over the years. I've recently switched to the Evo and loving it. Even with their new hardware, I still think the evo is superior. The android OS is a little quirky, and I especially think scrolling is way worse on the evo and the android market is a joke so far, but I really like the OS overall compared to Apple's locked down OS.
I'm not switching back!
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Sorry guys and girls, I had a moment of weakness, lol. I love Android too. In fact this is my 4th Android phone. You gotta admit random "Forcecloses" is starting to get a lil old though.
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seriously? I have had every iphone and also android since g1. I really do like the iphone but I hate att. I was just watching the same feed of the release about ios4 and there is nothing new. Yes, I do like the way you can video chat with ease but only on wifi and only with other iphone 4's?
I think there is a place for the iphone but this announcement was more of a "keep up with the jones" than anything earth shattering.
Im keeping my evo.
Im paying less with sprint by almost 50% than with att...
I hate Apple
Yep, I'm a hater. I only own 1 apple device...an IPod Nano, and the only reason I have that is I needed the close stereo integration on my boat (long story).
Having said that, if this IPhone was available on Verizon or Sprint or even TMobile...I would probably consider it.
Although the screen is smaller than the Evo the IPS technology looks slick not to mention a 960x640 resolution.
I also like the gyro. That has a lot of potential...granted it's also a little gimmicky, but I'm a geek and I like new toys.
I think the Evo could have better picture quality with an 8mp camera vs 5mp for Apple, but Apple does a great job with the actual image quality.
It also sounds like Apple finally implemented multi-tasking without killing the battery life. I don't completely believe it until I see it in person...but it looked promising.
I also like the free video calls from Iphone4 to Iphone4.
Having said all that, I still hate Apple. I will stick with my 3rd generation Nano and my Hero & Evo. It's just too bad someone can't put Apple in their place. The IPad could have been placed on the backburner with a HP Slate, and Android has a lot of cool phones, but none I would consider a complete IPhone killer.
Its so frustrating because I believe Android has the ability to put Apple in it's place, but when it comes to an actual full released product...it's just not quite there yet.
Just wondering. I love my iPhone 4 and all, just looking for a better UI, and the beefed up specs on this phone makes me drool, also flash player! I am looking for something a bit faster, and just something new and fresh and maybe something with a bit more features than the iPhone. Wondering if anyone came from the iPhone to the Atrix and is regretting or loving it? My main concern is battery life and compatibility with apps, i was reading somewhere that apps crash a lot cause of its dual core processor?
Android>iOs I'd rather have an og droid then an iphone
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I decided to make the jump from iPhone 4. Never thought I'd be this happy! Does everything my jailbroken iPhone can without having to be rooted. Love the features: HD recording and HDMI out (1080p soon!), fingerprinter unlock, dual core proc (haven't noticed any unstable apps yet), man the list goes on and I'm finding something new to love about this phone every day.
I've owned every generation of iPhone and figured it's time to jump ship. Had a WP7 for a few months but it is still in its infancy (Come on MS, you can do it!) and did not have the features I needed to say good bye to Apple (turn-by-turn nav, flashlight, copy/paste to name a few). The Atrix 4G just blew my expectations out of the water. I kinda assumed Android OS would anyhow...
I just REALLY hope Motorola and AT&T stays committed to the updates on this one, namely 4G support. Otherwise, yea, this phone would make Batman jealous.
I made that exact switch you're contemplating.... and let me just say that i haven't looked back. Yea, the screen might not be quite as nice (still nice for a phone by any terms), but there are so many things i like more about the Atrix than the iPhone 4... flash being one of them.... that i don't even miss it. That, and you can quite easily sell an iPhone 4 on eBay for $400+.... even more if unlocked. Actually sold mine just jailbroken for $451 to some dude in Russia. Sadly it got lost in the wonders of USPS and never made it to him.... so now i'm waiting for the paperwork to get the insured amount back.
I've had apps crash on occasion.... and i've also had the phone completely lock up..... but nothing close to "a lot". Every once in a while, maybe. Responsiveness isn't quite on-par to the iPhone 4 homescreen switching wise, but that doesn't really bother me. My other favorite thing about not being a fruit phone owner anymore is NO ITUNES REQUIREMENT! That alone is a freeing feeling. Just slap files onto your phone as if it were a hard drive, and you're on your way.
Battery life can be tricky.... but the main thing to remember is the more widgets you have, and the more active they are, the faster it'll drain. The first day i had it, i basically left the majority of the widgets up.... and i was at 50% battery life within hours. multiple recharges helped.... and not really using many widgets helped a LOT..... can usually go for at least a day now.... but lets face it, how many of us don't plug our phone in every night anyway?
Just remembered another + for Android....... SWYPE!
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I made that exact switch you're contemplating.... and let me just say that i haven't looked back. Yea, the screen might not be quite as nice (still nice for a phone by any terms), but there are so many things i like more about the Atrix than the iPhone 4... flash being one of them.... that i don't even miss it. That, and you can quite easily sell an iPhone 4 on eBay for $400+.... even more if unlocked. Actually sold mine just jailbroken for $451 to some dude in Russia. Sadly it got lost in the wonders of USPS and never made it to him.... so now i'm waiting for the paperwork to get the insured amount back.
I've had apps crash on occasion.... and i've also had the phone completely lock up..... but nothing close to "a lot". Every once in a while, maybe. Responsiveness isn't quite on-par to the iPhone 4 homescreen switching wise, but that doesn't really bother me. My other favorite thing about not being a fruit phone owner anymore is NO ITUNES REQUIREMENT! That alone is a freeing feeling. Just slap files onto your phone as if it were a hard drive, and you're on your way.
Battery life can be tricky.... but the main thing to remember is the more widgets you have, and the more active they are, the faster it'll drain. The first day i had it, i basically left the majority of the widgets up.... and i was at 50% battery life within hours. multiple recharges helped.... and not really using many widgets helped a LOT..... can usually go for at least a day now.... but lets face it, how many of us don't plug our phone in every night anyway?
Just remembered another + for Android....... SWYPE!
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Thanks for the input guys this is helping I am worried about the MotoBlur.. I really liked the Sense UI when I tested both phones at the store (inspire vs atrix). I don't want the inspire those because it's specs aren't that much better for one, but two it has no front facing camera. Also realized it had no accelerometer? Found that a bit odd, not a requirement. As long as I have my netflix app, my yahoo messenger/skype/tango *For video chat*, meebo, facebook, my games I should be good I think Android has these, as my friends said it has most of the big commercial apps the iPhone does.
I switched from the iPhone 4 to the Atrix. The main reason why I made the switch is because i felt "trapped" with iOS, although its a great UI. I just wanted something more customizable. The only thing I miss is having the iPod music player, the 'Retina' display, and the battery life. But other than that, the Atrix allows me to customize my phone more than the iPhone (not a fan of Motoblur). The music player for the phone is pretty decent, but I use doubletwist instead. I feel like the iPhone 4 keyboard was slightly more responsive, but maybe thats just me. And after the most recent update to the phone, the battery life of my phone is much better than it use to be. But overall, I'm satisfied with the switch and I probably won't even consider going back to iOS unless they actually revolutionize the phone. But in the end, its all up to you and which phone you're more comfortable with.
I wouldn't expect anything "revolutionary" anytime soon. They've essentially been running the same OS for the past few years now, and i don't see any changes happening. They're basically making anything that runs iOS idiot-proof. Like how it doesn't have any app drawer, and instead has everything right out in the open. If they make it too complex, or change something too much, they might lose some of their sheep. Look how long it took them to implement a way to categorize applications by what they're used for. This newfangled contraption called a "Folder".
tripleh3lix: i wouldn't worry about Motoblur. It's not entirely THAT bad once you've used it for a short while... and if you're still not happy.... use a different launcher. That's the beauty of having an Android device as opposed to an iOS device. Now if only we had an unlocked bootloader, could do away with Motoblur entirely, instead of just having it lingering in the background.
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I wouldn't expect anything "revolutionary" anytime soon. They've essentially been running the same OS for the past few years now, and i don't see any changes happening. They're basically making anything that runs iOS idiot-proof. Like how it doesn't have any app drawer, and instead has everything right out in the open. If they make it too complex, or change something too much, they might lose some of their sheep. Look how long it took them to implement a way to categorize applications by what they're used for. This newfangled contraption called a "Folder".
tripleh3lix: i wouldn't worry about Motoblur. It's not entirely THAT bad once you've used it for a short while... and if you're still not happy.... use a different launcher. That's the beauty of having an Android device as opposed to an iOS device. Now if only we had an unlocked bootloader, could do away with Motoblur entirely, instead of just having it lingering in the background.
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Hmm.. you guys are really tempting me haha. I already put up an ad on craigslist to trade an Atrix for an iPhone 4. We'll see what I can get and what decent offers I come across.
I just rooted it and froze the majority of the bloat and its bloody fast. Good battery too
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I just rooted it and froze the majority of the bloat and its bloody fast. Good battery too
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What does rooting it mean? also what does "freezing" mean? haha
also this guy wants to trade but wanted a 32gb model so he wants extra cash for the phone or an extra or two.. not sure what else to give him but a couple of extra cases.. *sigh*
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Thanks for the input guys this is helping I am worried about the MotoBlur.. I really liked the Sense UI when I tested both phones at the store (inspire vs atrix). I don't want the inspire those because it's specs aren't that much better for one, but two it has no front facing camera. Also realized it had no accelerometer? Found that a bit odd, not a requirement. As long as I have my netflix app, my yahoo messenger/skype/tango *For video chat*, meebo, facebook, my games I should be good I think Android has these, as my friends said it has most of the big commercial apps the iPhone does.
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my opinion motoblur>sense
Don't craigslist it for a trade. Better off eBay-ing it. You're basically asking for a straight up trade on a phone when that iPhone could easily go for at least $350-400+. Unless you're not eligible for an upgrade, I wouldn't think of trading. I forgot to mention that the iPhone 4 I sold for $450 was also only a 16GB model.
Edit: and forgot to mention... "rooting" is akin to the iPhone's "jailbreaking"... And by freezing, he basically means he stopped motoblur from running, since even if you use a different launcher, it's still running in the background, using some resources.
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Don't craigslist it for a trade. Better off eBay-ing it. You're basically asking for a straight up trade on a phone when that iPhone could easily go for at least $350-400+. Unless you're not eligible for an upgrade, I wouldn't think of trading. I forgot to mention that the iPhone 4 I sold for $450 was also only a 16GB model.
Edit: and forgot to mention... "rooting" is akin to the iPhone's "jailbreaking"... And by freezing, he basically means he stopped motoblur from running, since even if you use a different launcher, it's still running in the background, using some resources.
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I figured it was something close, but wasn't entirely sure And I'm thinking of ebaying it before I trade. My contract is not up yet and all, that's why I'm not trading it, also gonna save up money now for a new phone and if there isn't one in June, I will get one by the end of this year from AT&T. I may look into the eBay if I can't find a decent enough of a trade.
U are going to be disappointed lots of stuff doesn't work on atrix , no Netflix, skype, slow charge when u in use, screen is blurry on top brightness man every android phone I got all of the are still missing lots of thing comparing to iPhone. I love android it's just all of the phone's are not made high quality and all this manufacturers are putting their **** ui on the and making the phones worse don't buy it , or buy it and I'll see lots of staff is missing comparing to the iPhone 4.
Personally I wouldn't leave iPhone 4 for Atrix (but then I have both phones so I have the luxury of playing with both phones). While Atrix looks great on paper, I think it has failed to live up to expectations. The screen is a disappointment, UI is annoying, camera sucks, and the browser is laggy.
I don't feel like Android is running smoothly on Tegra right now, the chip maybe too new for everything to be optimized. Perhaps continuous development by the community will change things for the better, but right now, I wouldn't do it.
I got the Atrix instead of using my upgrade to go from iPhone 3GS to iPhone 4, and I am very happy I made the change. I have had more fun in the last 3 weeks playing around with the Atrix than I ever did with an iPhone.
Are there problems with the Atrix............yes...............but every phone has problems (think iPhone 4 antenna for one).
If you are like me, and want something you can play around with, you need an Android phone!
I left an iphone 4 for my atrix. No looking back here, also did a trade on craigslist. Traded bare iphone 4 (only with generic usb cable) for atrix with box and all accessories +4gb sd card + $70. I was happy. My iphone had a few nicks on the plastic bezel too. Plus my atrix came with invisible shield.
I have the iPhone 4 which I'm using to type this and though it may not quite be as fun to play with as a nice android phone I don't think I'm ready to switch. I had the original moto droid and the Samsung captivate in the past and liked them but nothing beat the retina display and stability of the iPhone 4. I do miss having a swype keyboard though like the cappy has. I'd wait until the Samsung infuse 4g gets released or the AT&T version of the galaxy s ii comes out or wait to see how nice the new iPhone is before switching. Plus I'm not eligible to upgrade until June of 2012 but there are ways around that.
Went from iPhone 4 to Atrix and back to iPhone 4. Its all personal pref really, I personally felt the qHD screen was a gimmick, and the battery life was sup par for what I expected it to be. (and the lack of 4g/locked bootloader, you can wait but the way I turn around phones, meh) However, I decided to go with an AT&T Nexus S in lieu of both. had that on T-Mobile and loved it.
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Thanks for the input guys this is helping I am worried about the MotoBlur.. I really liked the Sense UI when I tested both phones at the store (inspire vs atrix). I don't want the inspire those because it's specs aren't that much better for one, but two it has no front facing camera. Also realized it had no accelerometer? Found that a bit odd, not a requirement. As long as I have my netflix app, my yahoo messenger/skype/tango *For video chat*, meebo, facebook, my games I should be good I think Android has these, as my friends said it has most of the big commercial apps the iPhone does.
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If I was you I would go get the Nexus S that just came out for AT&T. No Bloatware and pure google. I flashed a new radio and I am getting Consistant upload Speeds of 1MBs or higher.
Plus you don't have any Bloatware and all updates come from Google.