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I want the OK button to EXIT apps!

Does anyone know how to ALWAYS make the "ok" hardware button exit any running applications? I basically never want to have to use my thumb to touch the X onscreen to close an app ever again.
By default all Windows Mobile devices leave applications running when you press X. I turned on HTC's Task Manager so that when I clikc the X it exits the app. But even with the HTC task manager setting on, if you use the hardware "ok" button the app is still running in the background.
Is there a way to edit the registry or something to make the hardware "ok" button always EXIT whatever app I'm running??
Doug M.
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doug3673 said:
Does anyone know how to ALWAYS make the "ok" hardware button exit any running applications? I basically never want to have to use my thumb to touch the X onscreen to close an app ever again.
By default all Windows Mobile devices leave applications running when you press X. I turned on HTC's Task Manager so that when I clikc the X it exits the app. But even with the HTC task manager setting on, if you use the hardware "ok" button the app is still running in the background.
Is there a way to edit the registry or something to make the hardware "ok" button always EXIT whatever app I'm running??
Doug M.
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You can assing Software to the hardwarebuttons by "start - settings - buttons" then choose OK-button and assinge HTC X-Button to it.

Try AEButton Plus (http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php) to connect the button to an "real exit"-Application, like VJok-Button (http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJOkButt)
Regards

papamopps said:
You can assing Software to the hardwarebuttons by "start - settings - buttons" then choose OK-button and assinge HTC X-Button to it.
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Have you even TRIED what you're suggesting? This does not work. The HTC exit button program is not in the list, because it's not a normal program, it's like an addition to the windows mobile OS. HTC task manager isn't' a program that stays running. it's a setting, so it ain't in the list.
Doug M.
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Applestar said:
Try AEButton Plus (http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php) to connect the button to an "real exit"-Application, like VJok-Button (http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJOkButt)
Regards
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finallly!!! Thank you so much!!! This works perfectly. I only needed VJok-button, not the other app. Now this makes operating the phone with one hand sooooo much easier.
Thanks again!!
Doug M.
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doug3673 said:
Have you even TRIED what you're suggesting? This does not work. The HTC exit button program is not in the list, because it's not a normal program, it's like an addition to the windows mobile OS. HTC task manager isn't' a program that stays running. it's a setting, so it ain't in the list.
Doug M.
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Indeed - i never uses HTC taskman. I´m using I launcher. But there are 100 programs for closing apps that you can assing to the hardwarebutton. VJ is one of them.
And no. I didn´t try it before posting - because my Terra is dead.
But I wanted to give you the hint that there is a possibility to assing different programs to the OK. button.
lol
And thanks for the explanation of HTC taskmanager...

Dinarsoft HandySwitcher
http://www.dinarsoft.com/handyswitcher/
The mother of Task Manager software & Button3.
Task Manager
Pretty.
Clean.
Don't show big options item menu.
Can add some addition item menu or none.
Click [x] button to really exit application.
Show real icon from running application.
Hardware button (Button3) can really exit application.
[ok] is ok.
[x] is really exit application.
I can sleep tight now after reaserch 8 hrs. and reading many articles here.
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Closing open applications with "OK" button

Can anybody suggest a program that will allow me to minimize applications by tapping "OK", and also allow me to close them by holding the button? I used to use SmartKeys with my old Wizard, but I'm using a Herald now.

yep, search the forum for hbutton should be version 2.2 i think, allows you to assign up to 5 functions per button, the nice thing is that if you just want 1 button reassigned it won't screw with your other butons. when you install it i adds the ability to minimize or quit. so it will do exactly what you want. also can be set to vibrate or beep when the button is held down to signify that the second function is being run.

Just for knowledge quick menu 2.7 also allows telling the ok button to close apps.

the simplest PBAR

Looks nice. But by "OK" button, I'm talking about the hardware button itself.

the foss said:
Looks nice. But by "OK" button, I'm talking about the hardware button itself.
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for me Hbutton is working, just assign "OK/Close" to the OK button, that's it... (it's my 2nd Hbutton recommendation within 2 minutes today )
When you're using HTC Taskmanager with "End programs by tapping X" it's working great with Hbutton. Never tried without HTC's TaskManager

petervbeck said:
for me Hbutton is working, just assign "OK/Close" to the OK button, that's it... (it's my 2nd Hbutton recommendation within 2 minutes today )
When you're using HTC Taskmanager with "End programs by tapping X" it's working great with Hbutton. Never tried without HTC's TaskManager
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Thanks for the advice! However, will it allow me to tap OK button to minimize then tap and hold to CLOSE? I played with it before but it seemed like when I assigned "OK/Close" to the Ok button, a single tap CLOSED the application. Basically I want the two opptions on one button, and to never have to touch the X button ever again.

there is an app
called : zapit!

papamopps said:
there is an app
called : zapit!
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Zapit! = http://www.luthier.ca/other/forum/ZapIt!.zip

PDAnuby said:
Zapit! = http://www.luthier.ca/other/forum/ZapIt!.zip
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doesn't seem to work on my wm6 trinity.........

the foss said:
Can anybody suggest a program that will allow me to minimize applications by tapping "OK", and also allow me to close them by holding the button? I used to use SmartKeys with my old Wizard, but I'm using a Herald now.
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ok extract this file to windows and make a shortcut to Windows\startmenu\programfiles then go to hardware button settings and set an ardware button for this application... ciao

Hi,
Just a simple solution that will do the trick.
AEBUTTON.
Google it.
Great Software.
Nadavi

Dinarsoft HandySwitcher
http://www.dinarsoft.com/handyswitcher/
The mother of Task Manager software & Button3.
Task Manager
Pretty.
Clean.
Don't show big options item menu.
Can add some addition item menu or none.
Click [x] button to really exit application.
Show real icon from running application.
Hardware button (Button3) can really exit application.
[ok] is ok.
[x] is really exit application.
I can sleep tight now after reaserch 8 hrs. and reading many articles here.
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the foss said:
Can anybody suggest a program that will allow me to minimize applications by tapping "OK", and also allow me to close them by holding the button? I used to use SmartKeys with my old Wizard, but I'm using a Herald now.
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You have probably seen a lot of suggestions thus far but this is probably the easiest. HTCTaskManager does exactly what your looking for by default. A press minimizes and a press/hold closes.
Small foot print. Easy to use.
Curious G

Chat with SE about X1

On friday we can chat with SE about X1 on the swedish website, Mobil.
Follow the link:
http://www.mobil.se/ArticlePages/200810/07/20081007105841_MOB130/20081007105841_MOB130.dbp.asp
You can ask questions now.
(Sorry, but the chat is in swedish.)

For all of you non-swedish speaking people, you can ask your questions here in english and then I can translate it and ask them in swedish. If getting an answer I can then re-translate it back to english here.

is there really no thumbable on screen keyboard installed?

Everything I have seen so far indicates its just the basic WM keyboard! Which is an oversight as I only intend to use the slide out keyboard for long emails/sms.
Guess I will install touchpal pro when I get mine.
Russ

*clapping hands* good job SE! It's so simple and they didn't give it to us
more questions :
1. which version of SPB shell that can be downloaded for free? will it get any updates in the future?
2. is it true that we can only save 6 radio stations?
3. is there any unique software installed - like HTC's MP3 trimmer or Omnia's video editor? anything whatsoever?

nap007 said:
is there really no thumbable on screen keyboard installed?
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X1 has a proper keyboard. Deal with it.

Can it playback videos in divx or xvid codec with a core player for example in full dvd-quality without converting it? Thats my biggest question. At rates about 1500-2000kbps? Fluid? I don't want to convert my movies. And I wanna see them all.. So, can you please question this? Thank you very, very much for this!!! Greez, cad^^

Why not asking if the final version will have the lateral screen orientation button as we can see in this image ?
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The recent prototype doesn't have it, not even the symbol bellow the button as the old prototype has. SE disapoints day by day. If this comes true in final release of X1 and without accelerometer is a major disappointment for such a beautiful screen and device!

He did say you can set a shortcut key to switch orientation.

but which that extra button, i can assign other things to soft key.

I wouldn't mind setting that key the makes the panels turn to the flip through to the orientation change (if possible). I don't think i'd ever want to use anything but the full 9 on the screen.

My Kaiser has 5 buttons, plus soft keys to assign. Going to be hard to go to having none! Unless you can assign volume up/down which would give us 2 buttons. Maybe even camera button long press? Can someone who has their Xperia already (lucky dog!!) try this? I use my VoiceCommand button and Ok buttons constantly.

Kloc said:
He did say you can set a shortcut key to switch orientation.
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OK, we would have to loose other button which has other function, because none is free...
What's SE thinking by replacing a button for a hole in the device ? Does it look better this way ? Was it necessary ? That button should be very very expensive comparing to the others so they removed, it can be only that

REgarding the earlier question on SPB - its not the program - its a panel incarnation of SPB Mobile Shell (available for download now at SE's site). Your guess is as good as mine as to whether it'll be supported with updates. I'm picking that skins for SPB won't work in this panel version.

Please ask why accelerometer has not been included, and also why the dedicated button for screen rotation has also been removed.
What level of support, updates and upgrades can we expect for the X1?
What are SE's plans for Xperia line?
Will WM7 be supported in the future? Will X1 be upgradable to WM7 when available?

Will qwertz keyboard layout be coupled with english WM? Are there more qwertz keyboards (special characters) available to choose from?

mkent_barbados said:
My Kaiser has 5 buttons, plus soft keys to assign. Going to be hard to go to having none! Unless you can assign volume up/down which would give us 2 buttons. Maybe even camera button long press? Can someone who has their Xperia already (lucky dog!!) try this? I use my VoiceCommand button and Ok buttons constantly.
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i'm with you, man. i use every button on my kaiser. well... except that ok button under the scroll wheel lol. i was playing with a friend's diamond, and i was SO close to getting a pro when it came out. but i can't get into that d-pad, and the lack of buttons is terrible. no windows or ok buttons? what the ...?
eric b

[app] 13 08 09 - powerbutton actionscreen 12 icons

-now for rhodium...
Action screen assigned to hold powerbutton for 3 seconds. (MUST BE INSTALLED ON PHONE MEMORY)
Smaberg TP2 Powerbutton 12 icons actionscreen v 1.1 - Action screen assigned to hold powerbutton for 3 seconds. This is the full program with softreset and power off option, will install on newer windows mobile 6.1(maybe 6.5).
This is a very useful application, i use it almost all the time.
Thanx vijay555, and thanx AMMAR for the graphics. and dont remember the name for the basic application that i made my work from...
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Yeah, thank you very much.
I really missed a working actionscreen on the TP2.
Due to the new Bluetooth driver the one for the Xperia wasn't working anymore.
You made me as happy as with your ROMs back then

sorry, but can you tell me what is it and what does it do?
(sorry for my english)

Have a look at the screenshot. It's an action screen that allows you to select certain actions like new SMS, appointment, task etc.
Works nice! Good to see my BT is working with this version.
Gonna make some changes myself:
- Left softkey to ActionScreen
- No conformation for soft reset
Attached the left softkey for who's interested.

Works fine!
Especially the one-click Wifi switch is very clever.
The only thing is the problem of hitting the powerbutton while typing in landscape mode.
It will launch this app while you're chatting, very annoying.

sandoro said:
Works fine!
Especially the one-click Wifi switch is very clever.
The only thing is the problem of hitting the powerbutton while typing in landscape mode.
It will launch this app while you're chatting, very annoying.
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No it won't, unless you hold the power button in for 3 seconds.

great app! thanks!!

mccune said:
Have a look at the screenshot. It's an action screen that allows you to select certain actions like new SMS, appointment, task etc.
Works nice! Good to see my BT is working with this version.
Gonna make some changes myself:
- Left softkey to ActionScreen
- No conformation for soft reset
Attached the left softkey for who's interested.
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Hello,
This tips is good if you do not use the TF3D ... otherwise it is replaced by the one from the TF3D ...
Do you know where to modify it in the TF3D ?
Thanks.

Personally I am trying to avoid pushing any buttons, I'd rather have an option on the screen like a shortcut in the Start Menu or something.
Would that be possible?

Hello,
In the start menu, it is a shortcut. Not so difficult. After installing the cab above, you will go to "\Windows" folder and you search for "HTCActionScreen.exe" then you make a copy and after you go to the "Start Menu" folder and "Progams" folder and you make a "Paste shortcut".
And this is done.

DavidMc0 said:
No it won't, unless you hold the power button in for 3 seconds.
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I think that's the point, if he's anything like me, everytime I type in landscape mode, I accidentally end up holding the power button for 3 seconds with the side of my finger, I'm forever turning of the phone .
Nice app though, just going to put it on.

For those that don't want to confirm the Soft Reset action:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\ActionScreen\APP_10]
"Param"="/s"
Attatched the REG file for those that want to import the file to the registry.
Don't forget to make a soft reset afterwards

This is awesome! I would love to have this app. Is there any way to make the icons a bit more colorful? Thanks so much!

hi! congratulations GREAT app.
is there anyway to change the icon (add + contacts) to one (close screen) without suspend the device. it is very useful to who wants to ear music from the speaker phone. cause when you turn of the device the music stops.
tnx in advance

Excellent! Thanks for thinking about us poor TP2 users!

Very interesting appl.
Does someone test it with touch pro stock rom ?(I have the italian one).
Thanks

Smaberg rocks
Welcome to TP2...I have been an avid follower of yours on Xperia forum...great to see you got a TP2.
Look forward to your inputs in making our TP2 way better than the great device it already is!!!

Hmm after installing i tried the application but it doet not work properly.
When i push the I/O button of my TP2 the screen becomes totally black... but when i touch a button (that i dont see) the rolloverbutton appears in green.
What can i do to make it work normally?

Tony S. said:
Hmm after installing i tried the application but it doet not work properly.
When i push the I/O button of my TP2 the screen becomes totally black... but when i touch a button (that i dont see) the rolloverbutton appears in green.
What can i do to make it work normally?
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uninstall and install agian in phone memory, then restart the phone...

Hi smaberg,
i have alittle problem. Possible you can help me.
I have the last version of bmp2brn. I save my picture
in 16 bit bmp in mirror. So far so good.
But what i have is this. What goes wrong
EDIT:
i have found the solution here on xda after seraching deeeeeeep.
BrConvert is the right tool!

[IDEA][6.5] Start menu Grid

Hello,
The Hexagon grid in WM 6.5 I think is very disorganized. So my idea is to change the grid of the start menu.
Iv'e made a image in paint to show my idea. (sorry for the crappy ms paint work.)
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Can some one realize this? I would love to see this on my diamond.
Thanks in advance!

I think you need to modify the StartMenu_GridScene_480x640.cpr. Open it with notepad and modify it.

Söderström said:
I think you need to modify the StartMenu_GridScene_480x640.cpr. Open it with notepad and modify it.
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Yeah, I thought so. But that's my problem. I don't know how, and I hoped someone with experience with the files could modify it.

casklaverstijn said:
my idea is
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this is desire of many people...
BUT it is not solved in present time...
If you modify it in your *.cpr-file (HexagonGrid="TRUE" to HexagonGrid="FALSE"), your start menu will cease to work

I have tried some times ago, but with no luck!
ope someone could make it work!

I read somewhere that it's (nearly) impossible to do it, the script that's responsible for the hexagon layout is hidden in a DLL.

As far as I know, a reasonable compromise is if you use the folderview.exe from HTC (it's usually there if touchflo is installed).

littld said:
As far as I know, a reasonable compromise is if you use the folderview.exe from HTC (it's usually there if touchflo is installed).
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yer, but is not divided in folder...

casklaverstijn said:
Hello,
The Hexagon grid in WM 6.5 I think is very disorganized. So my idea is to change the grid of the start menu.
Iv'e made a image in paint to show my idea. (sorry for the crappy ms paint work.)
Can some one realize this? I would love to see this on my diamond.
Thanks in advance!
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I like the idea. It will be better if the start menu can organize by page so that same catagory of apps can group together...

i think it would be easier if it is possible, pushing the start button to open up a new program with shortcuts, similar to that. Correct me if i m wrong.

hi, i like that Start menu Grid. I'm using HTC imagio and that Start menu is in my ship rom but when i flashed a customed rom, there isnt that start menu grid anymore. Hope someone can improve that

+1
I like that idea, in fact I was asking about it in HD2 section - but no luck
I also tried to modify the .crp but no luck either.
Would be really nice to have it!

still no one ?...

I really hope a developer sees this. We see allot of start menu modifications like lists. But i havent seen this normal grid menu!

Until it's developped (if so) you all can use "iPhone Today" instead. Also it's faster/smoother than WM Startmenu.

Also, some way to scroll horizontally
I was thinking of the same idea... and with the ability to scroll horizontally...this would exactly look like the iPhone...
If this can be worked out by some expert chef.... we won't need any application to give it a iPhone like feel.....
Also, i think the earlier ROM's had horizontally aligned programs.... so its not new... just that it needs to be implemented in newer ROMs.
I am very much interested in this .....

It will be good if it can catagorize the pages (with header). With that we choose to remove the sense to save ~30m of memory.

Bump, anyone?

Definately interested in this. What I think would be better is a sense version of the start menu to totally hide the win mo look. It should look just like the program screen when you tap on a quick link to choose an ap from the program screen. Cookie should feature a cookie start menu into cookies home tab 1.81

tboy2000 said:
Definately interested in this. What I think would be better is a sense version of the start menu to totally hide the win mo look. It should look just like the program screen when you tap on a quick link to choose an ap from the program screen. Cookie should feature a cookie start menu into cookies home tab 1.81
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Tboy,
I was about to say or thinking the same exact thing...