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HTC Evo or Samsung Epic?

Im going to be eligible for an upgrade in October and I know others are waiting on theirs. Id like to know if you are going to upgrade, what are you planning to move to and why. Here is descriptions of both phones.
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HTC 4G Evo Review

I can't stand the samsung phones, especially after seeing how they treated the Moment (worse than the Hero was treated by HTC and Sprint). Not to mention I think the Epic looks like crap, and the Evo just looks freakin sexy

Touchwiz is pretty damn ugly and it's quite pervasive in the Galaxy S operating system. Then again, there will likely be custom roms and lots of support for the Epic since it will be on all major carriers. The screen kicks the EVO's ass and it's allegedly quite responsive, unlike the Moment. I think we need to wait for full reviews of the Epic.

I'm keeping my eye on the Epic too. There were some good points to the Moment but the bad outweighed the good.

They're both too damn big. Who has pockets that large?

cmccracken said:
They're both too damn big. Who has pockets that large?
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Both are intended for purses obviously.

lets hope software updates last longer than 6 months.

ya they are big..a damn holster would like so freakn silly for these phones.. hell the one for my hero with the seidio 3500 extended battery is huge already.lol
I think 3.5 to 3.8 inch would be my range as far as screens go.. any bigger and to me its like a mini tablet.lol
but like all will skip samsung because of one reason. they never have any good extended batteries.. unlike htc... where they are plenty... so might get a evo ( maybe ) around dec.. who knows.. still love my hero...to even think bout it.. I mean look at the dream..lol they got froyo.. the hero will still get support for a awhile..so why switch..when that money can go to something else.. like food,lol

cmccracken said:
They're both too damn big. Who has pockets that large?
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the Evo will fit nicely in my back pocket. Hell, it'll fit nicely in my front pocket of any pair of my jeans. And it'll rarely be in my pocket anyway, since it sits on my seat in my car when I'm driving, and it'd sit on my desk while I'm at work, just the way my Hero does now

But the hero fits in my watch pocket also the epic is supposed to have a faster gpu. And I love my hero, but I like the idea of a keyboard for gaming.
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im like the epic better but like what has been said ill wait for reveiws and see what people say on here and see if samsung will fix any problems that might happen like with the evo

I plan on waiting for the dual cores next year anyways, not eligible for upgrade may.
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Both phones are nice and I think it comes down to three main factors imo:
1. Will Samsung Epic be rootable, and if so, will Dev support be equal to the Evo;
2. Do you prefer a physical keyboard; and
3. Do you prefer Sense UI over the Epic's UI
The thing that sucks (well, actually good) is that technology is always advancing and new devices are being released every few months and each release tries to out-do the last.
Personally, I'm going to say Samsung Epic since I am on a Hero and have problems using the keyboard. I'd like to give a physical keyboard a try for a few months.

srkmagnus said:
Both phones are nice and I think it comes down to three main factors imo:
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1. Will Samsung Epic be rootable, and if so, will Dev support be equal to the Evo;
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If its essentially the same as the other Galaxy S line up the yes easily rootable. The Dev Support should stretch across the lineup too.
2. Do you prefer a physical keyboard; and
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I have no specific preference but they are nice
3. Do you prefer Sense UI over the Epic's UI
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Neither! I want AOSP Froyo on it.
The thing that sucks (well, actually good) is that technology is always advancing and new devices are being released every few months and each release tries to out-do the last.
Personally, I'm going to say Samsung Epic since I am on a Hero and have problems using the keyboard. I'd like to give a physical keyboard a try for a few months.
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They just need to announce a damn release date.

spiritcrusher33 said:
ya they are big..a damn holster would like so freakn silly for these phones.. hell the one for my hero with the seidio 3500 extended battery is huge already.lol
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I have the seidio 3500 extended battery also. What holster are you using?!?!? I can't find anyone that fits it.

Im due for an update in october as well, I'm goin for the epic!
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Hard to say. This is how I see it.
Epic: Best hardware, good physical size.
Evo: Full support of xda.
Top-notch hardware vs. top-notch modding community, it's a very hard decision (for me, at least).

I'm leaning towards the Epic. What keeps me on HTC phones is the support of this community. If that is going to carry over to the Epic, there is no real reason to stay with the Evo. HTC has poor support for their phones which has been proven by their lack of porting Froyo to the Hero. Clearly it is doable. Additionally, if the Epic crosses carriers, we will see a lot of great minds working on the same phone.

Ive read that the actual processing power on the galaxy s is quite better than the snapdragon processors, so if that's your thing...
Plus the pervasiveness of this phone might lead to a lot of work getting done in the xda community.

Am i the only one..

Who actually thinks the new phone is cool, and wants it?
/hides behind stone wall.

Probably

backdown said:
Who actually thinks the new phone is cool, and wants it?
/hides behind stone wall.
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well I don't blame. I'm assuming you live in the stone ages since your hiding behind a stone wall and think this phone is cool...
haha.

probably... i mean to make such a big hype for a phone that's a brick? no 4g...? no front facing camera? this literally looks like a Nintendo DS as a phone. It doesn't really appeal to me and probably a lot of other people.

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Probably not. It is an industry first, but it's also pretty much just a gimmick, like 3D. I would have been much more interested in a dual core phone, or even an Evo with an updated processor.
I can see how it would be good for mulittasking...if it had the power of a dual core processor...but the specs are very underwhelming, and the battery life is going to be horrible.

Its not that bad a phone but sprint did themselves a great disservice by hyping it up so much. People where expecting something huge and instead got a phone.
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it's sort of like taking a ds. And then taking out the gaming capabilities of it, and then.... selling it.

backdown said:
Who actually thinks the new phone is cool, and wants it?
/hides behind stone wall.
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Yes. Yes you are.

The issue is that it "may" be a good phone once some people get their hands on it and play with it.
But you cannot deny the overwhelming negative response (see their facebook page) as a pretty big sign that it may not be a good phone.
If you look at it from a sales/marketing POV they would much rather have a phone that everyone thinks looks really cool at a press release, but then falls a little short of expectation in the real world. At least they sell some phones, and the high initial praise helps sustain the life of the phone.
Now look at this situation, especially in this economy, 99% of the initial response is bordering "verbal lynch mob", even if it a good phone, how many people will actually give it a chance?
First impressions can kill...........

It's an interesting concept, I'll give them that, but it's made by Kyocera, looks like a brick and not a lot of developers will go out of their way to make use of both screens.

xHausx said:
Its not that bad a phone but sprint did themselves a great disservice by hyping it up so much. People where expecting something huge and instead got a phone.
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I've seen almost nothing on the phone, but I agree. The hype was the worst of it.
I recall saying something similar would be great. I dropped the thought when tablets came.
EDIT-saw the video. WTF? Now I know why people said brick. I no longer have any interest even in passing.

The biggest issue is that from what i understand, its a basic Android. Phone with a 2nd gen snap dragon running 2 screens. Won't that hurt performance?
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Say "neat-o" and move on down the line.
You have been EVOfied.

4G - I don't have it...and i don't need it.
Front facing camera - Mine sucks..i hardly use it.
Maybe it's just the cool factor of it, but I think it looks more professional than the Evo.

backdown said:
but I think it looks more professional than the Evo.
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And a frumpy ***** in a business suit (echo) looks more professional than a supermodel (evo). Guess which one I want in my pants?

uniquenameevo said:
And a frumpy ***** in a business suit looks more professional than a supermodel. Guess which one I want in my pants?
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lol. processor isn't to bad tho... same as as shift (which beats the evo) but clocked even higher.

aimbdd said:
lol. processor isn't to bad tho... same as as shift (which beats the evo) but clocked even higher.
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Nope. It's loaded with a first gen snapdragon... I repeat. Epic fail.

backdown said:
Maybe it's just the cool factor of it, but I think it looks more professional than the Evo.
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now thats just silly!
But, remember,
you will never get an update past the OS that they ship it with
you get like a whole 5 apps that can utilize both screens, and no developer is going to waste time expanding their code base to accommodate this
and now i have lost interest! lol

cheapskate88 said:
Nope. It's loaded with a first gen snapdragon... I repeat. Epic fail.
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Actually its the second gen check out engadget fire more proof...i don't feel like providing it.
. Under the hood there's a 1GHz second-gen Snapdragon running Android 2.2 -- we'll forgive the older software because Kyocera had to do extensive customization to add dual-screen support to seven core apps like the browser, email, and messaging.
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BGR- Bash Google's Reputation

its amazing to see how this website advertise lies about android smartphones and tablets time after time,than "corrects it", after the damage is done just because they are apple fans.
I HOPE THAT GOOGLE WILL DROP A MAJOR LAWSUIT ON THEIR HEAD, SO THE LESSON WILL BE LEARNED.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/22/motorola-will-stop-building-xoom-tablets-after-june-report-claims/

for eg?

hardrock121 said:
for eg?
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LOL! My thoughts exactly.

What lies does this website advertise?? I'm so lost right now.

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I assume he's talking about bgr.com aka boy genius report.

CapsLockKey said:
I assume he's talking about bgr.com aka boy genius report.
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yes i do, thats exactly it

ericizzy1 said:
its amazing to see how this website advertise lies about android smartphones and tablets time after time,than "corrects it", after the damage is done just because they are apple fans.
I HOPE THAT GOOGLE WILL DROP A MAJOR LAWSUIT ON THEIR HEAD, SO THE LESSON WILL BE LEARNED.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/22/motorola-will-stop-building-xoom-tablets-after-june-report-claims/
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Just so I am clear, WTF does this have to do with Google exactly??? The article you supplied references Motorola, and has little to nothing to do with Google.

I'm guessing because Xoom is a Google experience device? Maybe? Didn't read the article but I just ordered my wifi only Xoom...
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Kcarpenter said:
I'm guessing because Xoom is a Google experience device? Maybe? Didn't read the article but I just ordered my wifi only Xoom...
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There is no way motorola keeps producing the xoom much longer. It is not a very good tablet, and with tablets like the galaxy tab coming out for half the price, no one will buy it. Also apple just plain embarrassed motorola by including better hardware in a cheaper package in the ipad2. Also, the tegra 2 is a year old chip and is embarrassingly slow compared to the competition. And its not capable of playing high profile h.264, which the original ipad can do.
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muyoso said:
There is no way motorola keeps producing the xoom much longer. It is not a very good tablet, and with tablets like the galaxy tab coming out for half the price, no one will buy it. Also apple just plain embarrassed motorola by including better hardware in a cheaper package in the ipad2. Also, the tegra 2 is a year old chip and is embarrassingly slow compared to the competition. And its not capable of playing high profile h.264, which the original ipad can do.
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All of $10 dollars retail cheaper?

Kcarpenter said:
All of $10 dollars retail cheaper?
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There is an iPad selling for $499. Most people buy that version. There is only one choice with the Xoom, and its HUNDREDS of dollars more, with a poorer quality display, terrible speaker/power button placement and an SoC that is multiple times less capable.

muyoso said:
There is an iPad selling for $499. Most people buy that version. There is only one choice with the Xoom, and its HUNDREDS of dollars more, with a poorer quality display, terrible speaker/power button placement and an SoC that is multiple times less capable.
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Someone sounds upset. I think you need to reevaluate how you come across on the internet. I have had no terrible experiences testing out a Xoom. You may in fact find it is better than you expect.

DTgreat said:
Someone sounds upset. I think you need to reevaluate how you come across on the internet. I have had no terrible experiences testing out a Xoom. You may in fact find it is better than you expect.
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I am upset. I have been waiting about 9 months now for an Android tablet to be worthy of buying, and Motorola completely messed up what was supposed to be the first worthy Android tablet.

I doubt such an obscure site could do any serious damage to Google's reputation.

I think the only thing that was poorly executed was the delay in a wifi model.
32 gigs is just about right on the money for storage this day in age. I wouldn't have been satisfied with a 16 gig, as soon as I hit that mark, I would be pissed - but I am reasonable enough to say that if I fill up 32 gigs I probably need to clean house.
I think it feels great in the hand, where the iPad feels slick/greasy and easier to drop. We are still waiting on a ton of Tegra optimization to pick stuff up, some say the recent update was a huge performance boost (25% higher quadrants).
Honestly, where Android is right now in the tablet market - I don't think the things you bear issue with will matter in the next year or so.
I do kind of have an issue with the charger...it feels a little on the weak side, and doesn't seem to have the best build quality...but I can deal since everything else seems to be right up my ally.

nemt said:
I doubt such an obscure site could do any serious damage to Google's reputation.
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BGR isn't really that obscure...I mean, they aren't engadget or gizmodo (though the same level of fanboyism can be seen there at times) but they aren't a guy in a basement with a blogspot account either.

Kcarpenter said:
I think the only thing that was poorly executed was the delay in a wifi model.
32 gigs is just about right on the money for storage this day in age. I wouldn't have been satisfied with a 16 gig, as soon as I hit that mark, I would be pissed - but I am reasonable enough to say that if I fill up 32 gigs I probably need to clean house.
I think it feels great in the hand, where the iPad feels slick/greasy and easier to drop. We are still waiting on a ton of Tegra optimization to pick stuff up, some say the recent update was a huge performance boost (25% higher quadrants).
Honestly, where Android is right now in the tablet market - I don't think the things you bear issue with will matter in the next year or so.
I do kind of have an issue with the charger...it feels a little on the weak side, and doesn't seem to have the best build quality...but I can deal since everything else seems to be right up my ally.
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Here are my issues:
*Priced WAY too high.
*Tegra 2 INCAPABLE at a hardware level of playing videos that our Epic's can crank out.
*Pretty mediocre screen compared to the iPad, iPad2, Nook Color, Galaxy Tab 7"
*Terrible placement of speakers (sound projected away from you)
*Terrible placement of power button
*Waste of money to include an 8mp camera
*Tegra 2 GPU not even in same league as PowerVr SGX543mp2

First of all BGR got the news from Digitimes...second of all as stated its more motorola then google..and third of all...you can't just sue the press like that...caue there is a thing called "Freedom of press"..

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BGR isn't really that obscure...I mean, they aren't engadget or gizmodo (though the same level of fanboyism can be seen there at times) but they aren't a guy in a basement with a blogspot account either.
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I must be out of the loop then, I had never heard of it before this topic.

MIUI phone

Anyone see the new miui phone? Sounds like a beast. 1.5 ghz snapdragon, 4 gigs of rom and best part in my opinion is they said you can flash any rom you want. One down side for me is from the front it looks like a crappy iPhone.

it's not an Iphone and that is what matters to me.

popper668 said:
it's not an Iphone and that is what matters to me.
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Very true.
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Don't know why ppl always bashing the iPhone...for what it is it does it well..solid construction, great battery life, very good camera, tons more apps and games than android, sharp screen, and the best support (connectivity and accessories). Only downside to me is the small screen. If the iPhone 5 comes to sprint and with at least a 4 inch screen, I would trade my evo in a heartbeat. For a multimedia phone, it practically does everything well.

phistyle said:
Don't know why ppl always bashing the iPhone...for what it is it does it well..solid construction, great battery life, very good camera, tons more apps and games than android, sharp screen, and the best support (connectivity and accessories). Only downside to me is the small screen. If the iPhone 5 comes to sprint and with at least a 4 inch screen, I would trade my evo in a heartbeat. For a multimedia phone, it practically does everything well.
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Sorry man but a phone that needs a rubber band around it or a special grip to get a signal doesn't fall under good construction to me. And I also hate how Jobs uses old technology and claims its revolutionary with each build. I think I hate Jobs and all his douch fallowers more than the iPhone itself. Just my 2 cents though. To each his own
Edit: and you can't really say multimedia without flash player.....

IPhone is great but you can't do much with it unless jailbroken n even then apple continues to close all exploits soon after the devs jailbreak them,
Android Is way more superiour especially with all the wonderful devs we have here!!
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I did see the MIUI phone and I gotta say, it looks real intriguing.

nan239 said:
IPhone is great but you can't do much with it unless jailbroken n even then apple continues to close all exploits soon after the devs jailbreak them,
Android Is way more superiour especially with all the wonderful devs we have here!!
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now this is what we call a fanboy....what are things you can't do when it's not jailbroken? it's no difference than saying you can't do much on android unless it's rooted. I have owned many different phones and brands through-out the 11 years I've owned a cell phone and am not biased towards any OS or manufacturer. I give props where props are due and even though I hate the people that use Apple products and worship the ground steve jobs walk on, I'd admit their iphone in many aspects are better than my evo. I already stated the positives earlier in this thread so I'm not going to repeat it again.

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now this is what we call a fanboy....what are things you can't do when it's not jailbroken? it's no difference than saying you can't do much on android unless it's rooted. I have owned many different phones and brands through-out the 11 years I've owned a cell phone and am not biased towards any OS or manufacturer. I give props where props are due and even though I hate the people that use Apple products and worship the ground steve jobs walk on, I'd admit their iphone in many aspects are better than my evo. I already stated the positives earlier in this thread so I'm not going to repeat it again.
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The problem with iPhone is iOS. Even after a JB the possibilites are far less than a stock unrooted Android. The reason most people root Android is not to enable certain things they were locked out of, but to run (and experiment with) custom roms.
Out of the box you can do tons with Android, like changing keyboards, launchers, photo galleries, handlers for sending files, widgets and tons more, that would never be possible on iOS.
iPhone + iOS is a synergistic combo that's very well designed, great usability, battery life and exceptional support from app developers and 3rd party accesories. But it is not a platform for people who like to customize their devices or need more control, and those limitations are not going away anytime soon.

Does every topic on these forums have to turn into flame fests about the iPhone or Sprints network or just general trolling?
Damn dude.

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The problem with iPhone is iOS. Even after a JB the possibilites are far less than a stock unrooted Android. The reason most people root Android is not to enable certain things they were locked out of, but to run (and experiment with) custom roms.
Out of the box you can do tons with Android, like changing keyboards, launchers, photo galleries, handlers for sending files, widgets and tons more, that would never be possible on iOS.
iPhone + iOS is a synergistic combo that's very well designed, great usability, battery life and exceptional support from app developers and 3rd party accesories. But it is not a platform for people who like to customize their devices or need more control, and those limitations are not going away anytime soon.
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And another thing too is the companies that have Iphone, I was a former T Mobile customer, started with them with my first Android phone and as soon as they posted that AT&T was taking control I switched to Sprint.

mattykinsx said:
Does every topic on these forums have to turn into flame fests about the iPhone or Sprints network or just general trolling?
Damn dude.
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Innndeeeeed
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Crazy how I stopped to read this thread about the miui phone as stated in the title and only 3 posts are about it and the rest being about the iPhone lol
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Miui phone. Ftw!!!
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So where is the info? Is this going to be on Chinese carriers only? Links? Release date?

Xiaomi M1
here's the link from official page:
www . xiaomi . com / features . html
if you're using Chrome, you're able to translate to English (or your default language).
the phone will be on pre-sales end of August, with delivery in October.
the only thing I wonder, if its going to have a front camera?! if yes, M1 is definitely my next phone!

costisanu said:
here's the link from official page:
www . xiaomi . com / features . html
if you're using Chrome, you're able to translate to English (or your default language).
the phone will be on pre-sales end of August, with delivery in October.
the only thing I wonder, if its going to have a front camera?! if yes, M1 is definitely my next phone!
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ANd for people that just want to click on the link: http://www.xiaomi.com/features.html

were to buy
anybody know were/how to buy this phone?
anybody own one?

[Q] How come samsung never comes with something stylish as this...!!!!

http://www.mediafire.com/?yr4h4z8bpt8ba8w
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here we go again with this nonsense leaks of iphone 5 and concepts which never happens,

So your saying that the GS2 and GS3 aren't well designed and good looking? I think the GS3 is a very good looking and well designed, the ergonomics are great it really feels comfortable to hold and use, which is agreat achievement consodering the screen size.
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If stylish is looking the same pretty much every new release. I thought the new iPhone 5 might be something special. Yawn... If that's it, then silly me.
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for me Sony has the best design.iphone looks ugly IMHO
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josephnero said:
for me Sony has the best design.iphone looks ugly IMHO
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I agree they've come out with some beautiful phones recently. I'm also impressed with their dev support.
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here are the pictures
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EDIT: Also, look at picture 3 and this, and tell me if it's not the same phone.
VERDICT: OP is an idiot. It's a modded 4S

IIIIkoolaidIIII said:
So your saying that the GS2 and GS3 aren't well designed and good looking? I think the GS3 is a very good looking and well designed, the ergonomics are great it really feels comfortable to hold and use, which is agreat achievement consodering the screen size.
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Event tough I hate everyting with that company, I have to say "Wow"...That a beauty there...Don't get me wrong I loved my SGS2 and now SGS3...I can never picture myself using an iOS device...but That leak is simply incredibly well design and a pure beauty....
Now I want Samsung to dare and come up with something different with Galaxy s 4..They do have an entire year for that....Because I'm not gonna buy any other plasticky isht...

bortak said:
You're stupid. That's a 4/4S modded black.
Also, here are the pictures
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How are you so sure?...You are being arrogant and insulting me, but you're just asserting...
here are the obvious difference:
-larger speakers
-a headphone socket at the bottom,
-and that now-famous smaller dock connector.

Omg. That is but ugly. I would not have bought an S3 if it looked like that. To me the S3 is pure beauty. Compared it to the One X in the shop today and IMHO it **** all over it. I also own a 4S and it looks so 2 years ago.
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armanderli said:
How are you so sure?...You are being arrogant and insulting me, but you're just asserting...
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Look at the button layout. It's exactly the same as the 4S. Hold button followed by 2 circles.
Look at the screen size, exactly the same as 4S, even I don't think they'd go miniature again when most phones at +/- 4.2"
Earpiece - exactly the same
Camera & LED flash - exactly the same position
Fruit logo and phone info on back - exactly the same position (if you've ever used an iphone)
The rear glass (and front glass if you're feeling brave) can be changed relatively easily, many friends have done it with different colours etc - this is just another different back for the phone.
Should I go on....
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armanderli said:
-larger speakers
-a headphone socket at the bottom,
-and that now-famous smaller dock connector.
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Anyone with some basic electronics knowledge can replace parts, which if not made by a very dedicated person, could probably be readily available from shady 3rd party retailers.

sxi200 said:
Omg. That is but ugly. I would not have bought an S3 if it looked like that. To me the S3 is pure beauty. Compared it to the One X in the shop today and IMHO it **** all over it. I also own a 4S and it looks so 2 years ago.
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I an't saying it should look like that...just that Samsung has to dare with their design....
Do you see the Black matte finish...a treat!!!

[/QUOTE]Anyone with some basic electronics knowledge can replace parts, which if not made by a very dedicated person, could probably be readily available from shady 3rd party retailers.[/QUOTE]
Let's just agree that you don't get the point...
Me, not like you, I'am so affirmative...But if it happens to be the real design, it will be extraordinary well made..That's it.
They were able to design something refreshning with 75% of the old design...
That what is called ' le touché'

armanderli said:
Let's just agree that you don't get the point...
Me, not like you, I'am so affirmative...But if it happens to be the real design, it will be extraordinary well made..That's it.
They were able to design something refreshning with 75% of the old design...
That what is called ' le touché'
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If you look at the history of fruit phones, they change the designed every 2 phones (ignore 2G)..
Trust me... This time, I'm right. If it's not a modded 4S (Which it most likely is), then it's some Chinese knock-off.

If that's you called new iphone5, I say is ****. Same old designed just like its UI. No thank you.
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If u search iphone5 on flick and look at recent update u'll find the truth...

bortak said:
If you look at the history of fruit phones, they change the designed every 2 phones (ignore 2G)..
Trust me... This time, I'm right. If it's not a modded 4S (Which it most likely is), then it's some Chinese knock-off.
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That's not a 4s you dip****. You just came off as the most arrogant douch on this site, and to top it off you're wrong.

Dear everyone,
Why u so dumb?
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/06/13/leaked_photos_of_possible_assembled_next_gen_iphone_emerge___rumor.html
A set of rendered photos depict a what fully-assembled version of Apple's 2012 iPhone may look like, based on previously leaked components [updated].
The renders, which were published by Chinese site iPhone中文网 (Google Translation, via MacOtakara), are based on rumors that have suggested the next iPhone will have a smaller dock, larger speakers and a metal back. While the original report was duped by the pictures, they originally stem from a Flickr user, who explained they were modeled in Rhinoceros 3D and are an authentic looking forgery.
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Love,
Anthropolyte

Closed, this is both off topic to the SGS3, it's also flamebait bait and the rumor mill working overtime.
Nothing to see here, carry on.

veyka said:
Closed, this is both off topic to the SGS3, it's also flamebait bait and the rumor mill working overtime.
Nothing to see here, carry on.
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Dang you beat me!