Picking the right ROM - EVO 4G General

Which EVO ROM should I choose?
I'm finally ready to flash a ROM but, my motivations are simple so the subsequent ROM should be too.
I'm looking for a ROM that is as close to a vanilla android load as possible, but with all antennae functionality. I don't use tethering so that's not a problem.
I'm frustrated with the limited functionality and slowness of the Sense UI (namely, the bluetooth driver for wiimotes and my nesoid!)
I've heard great things about Damage Control, and Fresh, but they seem like they have a ton of stuff I don't really need. Is that a problem?
Thanks in advance!

h40 said:
Which EVO ROM should I choose?
I'm finally ready to flash a ROM but, my motivations are simple so the subsequent ROM should be too.
I'm looking for a ROM that is as close to a vanilla android load as possible, but with all antennae functionality. I don't use tethering so that's not a problem.
I'm frustrated with the limited functionality and slowness of the Sense UI (namely, the bluetooth driver for wiimotes and my nesoid!)
I've heard great things about Damage Control, and Fresh, but they seem like they have a ton of stuff I don't really need. Is that a problem?
Thanks in advance!
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Damage Control and Fresh are good. If you don't like sense there is a NonSense ROM floating around:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699814
You really don't need to do anything with all the extra stuff if you don't want to. Damage Control and Fresh are pretty stable from what I have seen. I hear good stuff about both. I recommend you try each one for a day and decide between the two.

For all the issues that the Evo arguably has, a shortage of dedicated developers is not one of them. Everyone had different tastes for things. I say try them all and find what you like. That's what I'm doing.

halorin said:
For all the issues that the Evo arguably has, a shortage of dedicated developers is not one of them. Everyone had different tastes for things. I say try them all and find what you like. That's what I'm doing.
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Agreed, try them all.
Now, I do think that it's hard to beat Froyo...unless you need to take a picture that is

firemedic1343 said:
Agreed, try them all.
Now, I do think that it's hard to beat Froyo...unless you need to take a picture that is
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Yeah once the camera works on the Froyo ROM I will jump ship to it

I just want a rom that is "social" free. I dont want facebook, flickr or anything else thats weird and social.

I just want a rom that is "social" free. I dont want facebook, flickr or anything else thats weird and social.
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You don't have to sync/add those accounts if you don't want to.

Vandam500 said:
You don't have to sync/add those accounts if you don't want to.
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I know, but it seems like they are running all the time, and I dont even want to see anything about them. All of that "LOOK AT ME" crap is just annoying.

firemedic1343 said:
Agreed, try them all.
Now, I do think that it's hard to beat Froyo...unless you need to take a picture that is
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I can't wait for Froyo either!
I suppose the beauty of it all is that there are so many choices. I'm about to flash damage control, good luck me.

Damage Control is great, tried Fresh as well.
Sense-less, social-less rom would be my choice. Sadly there are no ROMS for the EVO yet that have sense removed entirely, and my WiiMote app won't be put to good use at least until that is done.

Wireless tethering did not work for me on the Fresh ROM. I am using the Calkulin EVO 2.1 v1.1 rom now. No problems so far.

I'm happy to just use the rooted stock rom and apply my own changes as I see fit. Once there is a kernel with full camera support + the 30fps fix etc etc I might try one of the Froyo ROMS.

Related

Which ROM "Series" is the best

Well? Which one do you prefer?
BAleR said:
Well? Which one do you prefer?
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i liked fresh a lot and just loaded up culkins and am messing around with his and am liking it so far as well.... this dev community for this phone is crazy. It hasn't been a month yet!
lol first vote anyway im using damage right now and it works beautifully
It is subjective and best left to each person to determine which one they like best.
There are many good chefs here and that makes this community unique.
Read up on what chef has to offer and enjoy.
Avalaunchmods EVOlutionV8-Froyo. I love this ROM, I can live without a camera, for now anyway. Besides that, I'd have to say BuglessPete's latest.
imaxreed said:
i liked fresh a lot and just loaded up culkins and am messing around with his and am liking it so far as well.... this dev community for this phone is crazy. It hasn't been a month yet!
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Yeah, So far I really like Bugless. But just unlocked so am gonna try out FRESH!!! Can't WAIT to see where all this goes.
Right now I would give the nod to Damage Control but all the ROMs available are pretty excellent right now, and it's only going to get better, especially whenever HTC releases the source.
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It is subjective and best left to each person to determine which one they like best.
There are many good chefs here and that makes this community unique.
Read up on what chef has to offer and enjoy.
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Absolutely true, I just wanna know how everything is workin out for everyone, wanna hear some positive feedback
Personally running Bugless Beast latest. Actually growing to love it more each time I play with my phone.
Why isn't the Froyo Rom listed?
plmiller0905 said:
Why isn't the Froyo Rom listed?
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I dunno is there away to add it?
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I dunno is there away to add it?
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idk...how to add it. But despite the camera's not working, I'll like to vote on it. I haven't had one fc, pulling over 35 MFLOPS ....it's running smooth as a Lexus...lol
plmiller0905 said:
idk...how to add it. But despite the camera's not working, I'll like to vote on it. I haven't had one fc, pulling over 35 MFLOPS ....it's running smooth as a Lexus...lol
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Sounds impressive. Wish I woulda put it in there. But this is what I'm talkin about
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I dunno is there away to add it?
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Click on one of your posts to edit.
Click 'Advanced settings' or something similar.
Edit.
Also, I was running BuglessBeast and then just flashed Fresh to see what it had to offer..
I'm going back to Bugless.
-No Ads
-Better battery life
-just looks a little smoother too.
That's interesting. I wounder if I get the same results, I do love Bugless though. Thanks for the feedback. I did try to edit it, but even in Advanced mode there is nothing that refers to the poll, at least that I see.
Damage control is my Rom of choice right now I love how it works battery life is better than it was before. And once the themes start rolling out it will be a rap. I wanna see a theme like froyo but with sense that would be great
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BAleR said:
That's interesting. I wounder if I get the same results, I do love Bugless though. Thanks for the feedback. I did try to edit it, but even in Advanced mode there is nothing that refers to the poll, at least that I see.
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Yeah, I feel ya. I like Bugless Too. But there was too many problems with his current release. The idea is good and I loved it, but too many fc issues, USB/Storage Drive issues etc. So in the meantime I hit up Froyo.
I flashed the Froyo Rom only because I don't use my camera that much. I probably use it once or twice a year at that. But anyway I flashed this Froyo and it's fast and just smooth. One of issues is that when you unplug it from a computer the LED light stays on, but most people that's using the rom just went to the market and bought this app that turns the LED off. So that's no big deal. Idk if 4g works or not either. Plus I'm not in a 4G area so it didn't matter to me. But if camera's is something you don't need everyday, chance check it out.
not sure that i have had a single one on long enough to give a truly valid opinion. So far (after i got my recovery issues fixed) they all seem pretty awesome...
I cannot believe the community that the evo is getting... its ridiculous!!
My hat is off to all the devs.... I wish i could do what you do!! Lets keep up the amazing work and keep the community fun!!
Right now I'm using froyo v8. Love it.
Damage control is also awesome
Bugless is also awesome
Fresh's is also awesome
See a trend here? Everyone should check each and every one of them out. They all excel in their own way and have tons to offer.
No vote for Baked Snack? v.7 has worked great for me ever since I flashed it. Also, the battery life on it is INSANE.

Sense-Froyo Rom for Nexus One

Hi,
Does any one know if there is a Sense-Froyo Rom for Nexus One?
If so is it any good / stable, if not any ideas when?
Cool thanks guys.
Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there
nexus9988 said:
Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there
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Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future
cymru said:
Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future
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I'd rather post a quick question to people who are dealing with this frequently, than trawl the web, sift through junk and install something which has lots of bugs.
Cheer up, its not all bad.
Thanks for the link.
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.
Without a criteria of what he is looking for other than good and stable it's hard to give a good answer. It's not about e-toughness, it's about searching, putting together an informative post, and reading the forum rules.
'cymru' is 100% correct. All it took was a search and reading comments about what does and does not work, then nandroid backup and try the rom and see if it passes the "good and stable" test.
DMaverick50 said:
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.
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WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)
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WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)
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I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!
LevitateJay said:
I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!
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Well there are some roms that have ported sense camera, and apps.
I do believe my "The Official" rom has them. It didn't come stock with the sense camera, but I had it installed (easy to do from spare parts, plus I have 720p recording).
The best you can do is look for a rom with those things ported over.
Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing
crx4xharder said:
Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing
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I might check that out...I tried KingKlick's latest rom and my phone rebooted all night long with it. Lamesauce.
I agree with cymru, its not that hard to click one section over to development and see what's there instead of someone making a new thread everytime, and xda agrees. Not a big a deal yes, just saying I agree
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DMaverick50 said:
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
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Luckily i've been a member for a number of years so don't fall into this category...
If it wasn't for XDA recently attracting many young people that weren't taught at home or school in how to do something for themselves once in a while they wouldn't have to come and anonymously display their e-laziness. Just shut up.
EDIT: THANKS JRBOURQUE ^
Hi guys, if the battle for whos the cleverist is now over, heres some feed back for the advice given.
I've installed, Evils q&d sensefroyo. Been running it for a few days, its cool. A little buggy, a few force closes, high battery use, no bluetooth, but very usable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Again thanks for the input, hope this helps anyone else who was looking for similar info.
Cheers.
I tried kingxclikz and Paul's r23 roms, I must say the first one is very buggy and there are no ways to use it even for 24h(though I think it needs an eclair radio),Paul's rom is way more stable but the lack of Metamorph themes,trackball mods and BT are too important.
He promised to release a new version soon so all we can do is wait and see!
Ughh. No BT on any sense ROM then?
Is anybody even working on bluetooth for Desire roms? I don't think anybody actually is. There are a few people I think might be capable like Paul but he's busy with other things now by the looks of it

Thoughts on MIUI Rom

I'm sure I will get flamed but here goes anyway. Everyone is jumping on to the MIUI bandwagon, and yes in my opinion it does have a few cool features, but not enough to win me over. Am I the only one on XDA that kind of dislikes this rom? I've tried to like it but I just can't. I like roms that tend to be more stock anyway, I think modded froyo such as enom's rom and cyanogenmod etc. have all of the features and beauty that I need. I see a lot of people saying think iOS and Android together! If I wanted iOS I would own an iPhone and not a N1.
I understand it is all preference and whatnot, but I can't be the only one who hates the MIUI interface. FM Radio cool! Interface not cool! I know I can install other launchers but to me that kind of defeats the whole purpose of running this rom.
I'm not going to mess with it anymore, I just wanted to give it a chance.
Am I the only one who doesn't care for this rom?
Sorry for the rant
It's okay. I dont hate or like it
Haven't tried it. It looks nice and well done but the iOS styling doesn't draw me in
Think I'm gonna try it, but I'm with you flapjaxx
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you're probably the only one who would make a thread about it.
First thread I've seen about MUI. Flashing now
typ_ex said:
you're probably the only one who would make a thread about it.
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Probably.. I just don't see what the big deal is about this rom. I posted in the general forum so I am allowed to express an opinion/vent a little about a rom thats getting a lot of attention and I personally don't see what all the hype is about.
By the way you did read and reply to my thread.
Yea you're correct in stating that installing other launchers defeats the purpose. I liked it for about a week but went back cyan...now i'm on micromods hybrid...for me the sense roms got me hyped up. If the Mui wasnt iphone'd up then it would actually be really sweet but that whole iphone thing just ruins the experience and awww of having an android device
I agree with you OP. I dont like it at all. Now the fact they made a new UI is cool, but like OP said, if I wanted iOS, I would have bought an iPhone
haha fair enough.
I am not too big on the iphone icons either. However, I do like the lock screen, speed, and the battery life.
Also it isnt as obvious as in cyan, but it does have .flac support and will stop playing music when you disconnect. However it will not play upon reconnecting.
typ_ex said:
haha fair enough.
I am not too big on the iphone icons either. However, I do like the lock screen, speed, and the battery life.
Also it isnt as obvious as in cyan, but it does have .flac support and will stop playing music when you disconnect. However it will not play upon reconnecting.
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The lock screen is slick. It does seem speedy, I can't confirm battery life only because I wasn't able to use it long enough to really wear on a battery. I do appreciate that there are so many choices with custom roms and the dev team that created this rom has obviously worked hard and it shows. That is the beauty of android, so many choices. It is a very pretty rom no doubt, but I just prefer a more stock type interface.
The MIUI ROM looks nice, but I also prefer a stock, simple look. Im happy to see them pushing the envelope though.
the big hype is because MIUI is a complete overhaul, different than what we are used to. Sometimes a change once in awhile is good, and MIUI is a great change I jump from cyan to MIUI. FM radio, lockscreen, and the UI is amazing, I do prefer different style icons but that's about it
It's a very, very optimized ROM. Battery life, speed, the super-neat toggles in the notification tray. You can just install another launcher and still benefit from all of the above plus the great lock screen, FM radio, and excellent phone/SMS/contact apps.
I Agree, with launcher it's really a nice rom !!
I like the resent part who include a task killer.
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I like the UI, but i miss a few features from CM.
CM with the MIUI launcher would be great.
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I'm sure I will get flamed but here goes anyway. Everyone is jumping on to the MIUI bandwagon, and yes in my opinion it does have a few cool features, but not enough to win me over. Am I the only one on XDA that kind of hates this rom? I've tried to like it but I just can't. I like roms that tend to be more stock anyway, I think modded froyo such as enom's rom and cyanogenmod etc. have all of the features and beauty that I need. I see a lot of people saying think iOS and Android together! If I wanted iOS I would own an iPhone and not a N1.
I understand it is all preference and whatnot, but I can't be the only one who hates the MIUI interface. FM Radio cool! Interface not cool! I know I can install other launchers but to me that kind of defeats the whole purpose of running this rom.
I'm not going to mess with it anymore, I just wanted to give it a chance.
Am I the only one who hates this rom?
Sorry for the rant
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And who told you that you have to use it and are not allowed to use anything else???
If you don't like it use something different. Whats the problem?
I don't like pink colored t-shirts so i don't wear them. I don't blame anybody else that wears pink t-shirts. I don't tell anyone that I hate them. I just don't wear them.
Same thing for you, if you don't like MIUI Rom don't use it. Try it, if you don't like it restore nandroid backup and forget about it...
And shut up, keep it for yourself that you don't like it.
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And who told you that you have to use it and are not allowed to use anything else???
If you don't like it use something different. Whats the problem?
I don't like pink colored t-shirts so i don't wear them. I don't blame anybody else that wears pink t-shirts. I don't tell anyone that I hate them. I just don't wear them.
Same thing for you, if you don't like MIUI Rom don't use it. Try it, if you don't like it restore nandroid backup and forget about it...
And shut up, keep it for yourself that you don't like it.
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Heh. Angry much? I can say whatever I like. That's the beauty of this forum. We can have that freedom. Have a good day buddy!
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typ_ex said:
you're probably the only one who would make a thread about it.
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ROFL! My thoughts exactly.
flappjaxxx said:
I'm sure I will get flamed but here goes anyway. Everyone is jumping on to the MIUI bandwagon, and yes in my opinion it does have a few cool features, but not enough to win me over. Am I the only one on XDA that kind of hates this rom? I've tried to like it but I just can't. I like roms that tend to be more stock anyway, I think modded froyo such as enom's rom and cyanogenmod etc. have all of the features and beauty that I need. I see a lot of people saying think iOS and Android together! If I wanted iOS I would own an iPhone and not a N1.
I understand it is all preference and whatnot, but I can't be the only one who hates the MIUI interface. FM Radio cool! Interface not cool! I know I can install other launchers but to me that kind of defeats the whole purpose of running this rom.
I'm not going to mess with it anymore, I just wanted to give it a chance.
Am I the only one who hates this rom?
Sorry for the rant
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Umm...dont use it then?
Just want to say I tried the port for my Inc, but went back to cm6.
Though I don't feel as if its my flavor of ROM, I do want to say it is very innovative, and probably the first (at least on ROMs for the Inc) of its kind to really truly redesign the interface.
So while I don't use it, I would definitely like to see more transformations of this kind.
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flappjaxxx said:
I'm sure I will get flamed but here goes anyway. Everyone is jumping on to the MIUI bandwagon, and yes in my opinion it does have a few cool features, but not enough to win me over. Am I the only one on XDA that kind of hates this rom? I've tried to like it but I just can't. I like roms that tend to be more stock anyway, I think modded froyo such as enom's rom and cyanogenmod etc. have all of the features and beauty that I need. I see a lot of people saying think iOS and Android together! If I wanted iOS I would own an iPhone and not a N1.
I understand it is all preference and whatnot, but I can't be the only one who hates the MIUI interface. FM Radio cool! Interface not cool! I know I can install other launchers but to me that kind of defeats the whole purpose of running this rom.
I'm not going to mess with it anymore, I just wanted to give it a chance.
Am I the only one who hates this rom?
Sorry for the rant
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Well i guess you have a wrong concept of the MIUI rom. It is not because of the launcher ppl like the rom. But because of the tweaks. till now there are no roms to my knowledge where you could change the lockscreen within the android os. ( i am not talking of 3rd party apps like widget locker....., here it's different. it's the native one being modified. ) we havent been able to change native phone and contact.apk, we were just applying themes. but the MIUI is different. Even when you go to settings in the menu, you'll observe how things get snappier and all bouncy. Not to mention the little menu's in the lockscreen ( now being seen in the sense HD), answer&reject mods when receiving calls... and the FM radio which were unknown and still being documented in the xda community. Basically everything has been modifies here, even the mms.apk.
so i guess it is wrong to make such an assumption based only on the launcher which ressembles the iphone. I have been using the MIUI with launcher pro and I had amazing battery life.
If you do not like a rom , just don't use it. Why dont u make another thread saying that rodriguezstyle is too greenish or micromod's roms are too glassy ( sorry chefs , lol . it was just to make my point). or maybe somebody else should start another thread saying i hate stock looking roms! Of course you can come up with all these talks that xda is a community forum, everybody has the right to bla bla bla , democracy.... and you do have the right but it is all about MANNERS and RESPECT here! You do not critise someone's work ( which you are getting for free btw) just because of ur taste!!

[Q] What do you want in a ROM?

1. Clean: Optimized, nothing at all installed over the basic OS.
2. Clean + Sense: Optimized, Sense, nothing else. Basically Sense apps/widgets that you can't download via Manager would have to be included.
3. Like most ROMS are now. Lots of pre-installed apps.
My opinion:
A ROM should be a CLEAN install of the OS that is optimized, nothing more, nothing less. Everything else should be up to the owner of the phone to decide. Cleaner = better. Apps can easily be downloaded/backed up. No I don't want Twitter/Facebook/SoundHound/Teeter/YouTube/Amazon etc etc etc pre-installed. If I want an App it can EASILY be installed and BACKED UP via Titanium Backup.
Apps are sometimes going to bug and use up CPU so the phone lags (like on the stock ROM). It's stupid that an App I have and NEVER will use is causing my phone to LAG.
Custom/Stock ROMS reminds me of a Windows XP install from HP with all the extra stuff pre-installed that you don't need or want. Less is more IMHO.
I would love to try option 1 and 2.
What would YOU like to see in a ROM? Hopefully this will be a great thread for the ROM makers to make something that most of us want.
I don't mind sense asi prefer paucity pro
But I really want the ideal rom to keep htc navigation app for me is a killer app
Anythng else can go IMO
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I don't mind sense asi prefer paucity pro
But I really want the ideal rom to keep htc navigation app for me is a killer app
Anythng else can go IMO
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Well... this is not as easy as most people think. There are some reasons why most ROM's looks like that:
1. It's not easy job to make a clean ROM. Removing apps is not enough. There are plenty of connections and dependencies between different apps or ROM structures. Only a really advanced developer can make a clean ROM working 100%.
2. Some people like this, some people like that. To meet all requirements, developer should make at least 5 different versions of the ROM to make everyone happy.
3. Most apps you can easily delete by yourself. F.G. in my ROM some stock apps are in userdata (data/app) partition so you even don't need any special program to uninstall it.
4. You people have a lot of wishes but remember, that we all do it for free. If you want developers to work harder (by releasing x numbers of different ROM's) then why not to reward it? There are some people doing everything for free of course. Personally I don't care because I wont be able to create 100% working clean ROM anyway. But just saying. "What do you want in a ROM?" is kind of... I don't know... sounds like "users will write their expectations and some obedient developer will do it". I don't like it.
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Well... *cut***cut*....just saying.
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I agree with you, we should (and DO) appreciate all the work Dev's are doing on providing custom roms (for free).
Having said that: the topic question is what do you want in a ROM...so it can be anything really....
I am more looking what is available and choose from that, rather than thinking / asking, Hey Dev, can you add this or that....
But if I could....I would like my ROM to have the coffee ready when it lets the phone wake me with its alarm out of my ever so short sleep
mike1986. said:
Well... this is not as easy as most people think. There are some reasons why most ROM's looks like that:
1. It's not easy job to make a clean ROM. Removing apps is not enough. There are plenty of connections and dependencies between different apps or ROM structures. Only a really advanced developer can make a clean ROM working 100%.
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That's what will separate a great/popular/"the ROM to have" ROM from this-is-what-I-(the creator)-like-in-a-ROM ROM.
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2. Some people like this, some people like that. To meet all requirements, developer should make at least 5 different versions of the ROM to make everyone happy.
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Not really. One clean, one clean with Sense only and one with all kinds of weird apps installed (like current ROMs) will suit pretty much every body.
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3. Most apps you can easily delete by yourself. F.G. in my ROM some stock apps are in userdata (data/app) partition so you even don't need any special program to uninstall it.
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It's easier to backup your Apps and load them in versus removing every-single-app-that-is-pre-installed after EACH update.
mike1986. said:
4. You people have a lot of wishes but remember, that we all do it for free. If you want developers to work harder (by releasing x numbers of different ROM's) then why not to reward it? There are some people doing everything for free of course. Personally I don't care because I wont be able to create 100% working clean ROM anyway. But just saying.
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I guess they have to trust that their work will be rewarded and strive to make the most popular ROM out there. Lots of "credz" by having the #1 HD ROM.
Beamen1 said:
That's what will separate a great/popular/"the ROM to have" ROM from this-is-what-I-(the creator)-like-in-a-ROM ROM.
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Sorry, I see no connection with my post
Beamen1 said:
Not really. One clean, one clean with Sense only and one with all kinds of weird apps installed (like current ROMs) will suit pretty much every body.
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It's your opinion. There will be another opinion saying, that it will be nice to have clean ROM with some extra launcher, full ROM with some extra launcher, semi-clean ROM, ROM with blue icons, ROM with yellow icons etc..
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It's easier to backup your Apps and load them in versus removing every-single-app-that-is-pre-installed after EACH update.
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Sure. It's better when developer is working 24h per day to make ROM for you because you don't want to spend 15 minutes removing what you don't need. It's better to have everything like you want from the very beginning. Well - it's not working like this, sorry.
Beamen1 said:
I guess they have to trust that their work will be rewarded and strive to make the most popular ROM out there. Lots of "credz" by having the #1 HD ROM.
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Trust? I trust to God, that's all. So tomorrow you go to work and you say to your boss - "We don't need contract anymore. Now I will put my trust on you"
Just to make things clear - I don't care about money. And we are not thinking like you wrote "I will make good ROM and I trust people will donate me for this". We think (well... I think) like "I will make as good ROM as I can and if someone will reward it - cool! But I'm not going to loose my job and private life just for hoping and trusting that someone will reward me".
That's my point of view.
I'd love a clean ROM with htcsense.com working but nothing else from Sense.
I also am of the clean school of thought, I do regularly uninstall apps I don't use from the ROM's I use, and my personal feeling is if it's on the marketplace leave it out (and I am including the Gapps in this).
I realise this isn't everyones preference but then you can never please all of the people, on the other hand we are using the DEV's FREE work so I suppose we have to be happy with whatever they choose
mike1986. said:
Sorry, I see no connection with my post
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Ok? Nevermind then.
mike1986. said:
It's your opinion. There will be another opinion saying, that it will be nice to have clean ROM with some extra launcher, full ROM with some extra launcher, semi-clean ROM, ROM with blue icons, ROM with yellow icons etc..
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You can always install extra launchers, kernels etc. A ROM doesn't need to contain everything. A ROM (IMHO) should be the OS, the back bone of the phone, not the whole system. If I want to OC my PC I don't get a "Windows 7 with Radeon 5880 + iCore prossesor already clocked, and here is 5 other programs that I like".
I get a Windows OS, I install my ATI drivers, install the OC things I need for MY setup and install the apps/games I WANT.
mike1986. said:
Sure. It's better when developer is working 24h per day to make ROM for you because you don't want to spend 15 minutes removing what you don't need. It's better to have everything like you want from the very beginning. Well - it's not working like this, sorry.
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This 15min times every new update that is released if you want the newest "OS".
That depends. Every one has different motives. Why would the developers of a ROM do ANY changes based on user feedback (I'm not talking about bugs) if they didn't care for the fact that others are using THEIR ROM?
Would it be worth 200-500-1000?? hours of work if your ROM was loaded on 9/10 DHD phones? To some, yes, to others, no. To some, that would be a very satisfying feeling and worth all the work. They might get some $$ for it as well.
mike1986. said:
Trust? I trust to God, that's all. So tomorrow you go to work and you say to your boss - "We don't need contract anymore. Now I will put my trust on you"
Just to make things clear - I don't care about money. And we are not thinking like you wrote "I will make good ROM and I trust people will donate me for this". We think (well... I think) like "I will make as good ROM as I can and if someone will reward it - cool! But I'm not going to loose my job and private life just for hoping and trusting that someone will reward me".
That's my point of view.
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Look over.
Don't get me wrong. I'm VERY thankful for this forum and everyone that puts time into making ROMs and Kernels, but it would be fun to get feedback from the forums. Maybe (and hopefully) someone will make the "clean" ROM if the feedback here is pointing in that direction.
Beamen1 said:
Would it be worth 200-500-1000?? hours of work if your ROM was loaded on 9/10 DHD phones? To some, yes, to others, no. To some, that would be a very satisfying feeling and worth all the work. They might get some $$ for it as well.
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This is becoming not really straight to the topic but I can't understand your specific point of view. As long as you don't have wife, job, friends and kids, you can spend all your life doing everything for free. No problem. But getting SOME (so could be lot of, could be nothing as well) $$ for working over "200-500-1000 hours" is ridiculous. I prefer working for free for some charity organization then for thousands rather reach people wanting to have as much as possible for free. Let's see how important for you is to have this clean ROM. How much can you pay? 1$? 5$? 10$? How much you can pay for my "200-500-1000 hours" of work? I'm 99% sure, that you don't want to pay anything. And I'm also 99% sure that you didn't do much in your life for free. So why the hell are you speaking about satisfaction and stuff like this?
You can ask some dev to make a clean ROM. It's all fine. As I said before - we're doing it for hobby etc. Actually my ROM is the ROM that I'm using so it's like I WANT, not like others WANT and anyway it's quite popular now. But definitely you can't expect from others to do some extra work just in the name of satisfaction and fake-popularity (will you recognize "LeeDroid" on the street? will you shake his hand? I don't think so).
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This is becoming not really straight to the topic but I can't understand your specific point of view. As long as you don't have wife, job, friends and kids, you can spend all your life doing everything for free. No problem. But getting SOME (so could be lot of, could be nothing as well) $$ for working over "200-500-1000 hours" is ridiculous. I prefer working for free for some charity organization then for thousands rather reach people wanting to have as much as possible for free. Let's see how important for you is to have this clean ROM. How much can you pay? 1$? 5$? 10$? How much you can pay for my "200-500-1000 hours" of work? I'm 99% sure, that you don't want to pay anything. And I'm also 99% sure that you didn't do much in your life for free. So why the hell are you speaking about satisfaction and stuff like this?
You can ask some dev to make a clean ROM. It's all fine. As I said before - we're doing it for hobby etc. Actually my ROM is the ROM that I'm using so it's like I WANT, not like others WANT and anyway it's quite popular now. But definitely you can't expect from others to do some extra work just in the name of satisfaction and fake-popularity (will you recognize "LeeDroid" on the street? will you shake his hand? I don't think so).
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This is YOUR POINT OF VIEW. Maybe a ROM developer actually WANTS to make a CLEAN install with Sense? Maybe his passion is developing ROMS?
Look at FORUM ADMINS/MODS. They don't get payed ANYTHING for ALL the work they do because they think it's fun. This includes admins/mods on "exotic car boards" that do modding work for free instead of making THOUSANDS of dollars instead. They do it because they enjoy it.
Some people LOVE working on cars, some people HATE working on cars. The people that really LOVE working on cars will do work (very good work I might add) for free/close to nothing because that's what they like to do.
Just because you don't want to spend hours of your life making a CLEAN Rom doesn't mean other Devs don't want to.
You are certain I won't pay? How would you know? You know NOTHING about me.
I'll pay $30 for a CLEAN Rom with Sense - no problem. Now it's in writing.
You really don't see any difference between making a ROM from passion and making a ROM because someone told you to do a specific ROM? So the discussion is pointless.
I mentioned it almost in my every post that yes, it is my point of view.
Beamen1 said:
I'll pay $30 for a CLEAN Rom with Sense - no problem. Now it's in writing.
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If some dev will make a clean ROM because of passion (we have a lot of great devs here - Paul, Lee, Apache14, kamma, adwinp, robocik etc..) then he will be satisfied with any donations.
But if you want someone to make Clean ROM FOR YOU then you can take this 30$ and... you know what
This is the difference I'm talking all the time.
mike1986. said:
You really don't see any difference between making a ROM from passion and making a ROM because someone told you to do a specific ROM? So the discussion is pointless.
I mentioned it almost in my every post that yes, it is my point of view.
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How is it pointless? Because YOU don't like the idea?
Someone told you to make a ROM? Why would anyone make a ROM if they didn't want to (unless that was their job, with an hourly pay)?
Maybe some Devs never though about making a CLEAN ROM with Sense until they saw this thread? Who knows.
Maybe some Dev wants to make the most popular ROM for Desire HD. By the looks of it he/she will have over 90% of all DHD users that are running custom ROMS Satisfying enough for someone to try it? Maybe
Let's wait and find out
mike1986. said:
If some dev will make a clean ROM because of passion (we have a lot of great devs here - Paul, Lee, Apache14, kamma, adwinp, robocik etc..) then he will be satisfied with any donations.
But if you want someone to make Clean ROM FOR YOU then you can take this 30$ and... you know what
This is the difference I'm talking all the time.
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I NEVER said for the Devs to MAKE me one. If that was the case I would probably have to spend THOUSANDS of dollars for their time to make a clean ROM.
It's a poll. I would like to know what owners and Devs think. Maybe this is the next "step" to take in ROMS.
Ignoring the very pointless argument going on above...
I voted for Clean. I personally hate the Sense stuff, I'm sat right now seeing what I can remove from the ROM to make it as light as possible.
There is already non-sense clean ROM here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844707
Not clean enough?
mike1986. said:
There is already non-sense clean ROM here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844707
Not clean enough?
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The constant sync issue seems similar to one that occurred during the early days of Sense-less Desire ROMs, that used to cause huge battery drain. Unsure if it does the same here but constant sync is never a good thing, right?
munkimatt said:
Ignoring the very pointless argument going on above...
I voted for Clean. I personally hate the Sense stuff, I'm sat right now seeing what I can remove from the ROM to make it as light as possible.
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+1 on this statement, i voted clean + sense because for me WHEN htc sort out the issues with sense.com it will be nice to know i can basically destroy the insides of my phone and make it unuseable to any fugger that might happen to find/steal it, without having a load of different apps made by third party that only do one part of sense.com per app. also the main thing for me wanting a dhd was the dolby mobile and srs functions, not sure if this is a valid point but from what i gather these settings can only be changed when using the stock sense music player that comes with the stock rom... The day Cyanogen was ported i rejoiced thinking yay finally i can completely control my phone only to discover that "computer says no" and i lose all my htc sense syncability as well as losing the function to choose the dolby settings or srs in the music player... That is why leedroid became rom of choice to me for now as it came with very little apps installed i did not want myself and i get all these functions still running the way they should
as for the two people arguing, you both sound like whiney annoying brats the way you are going on.. EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION, but i will remind you that EVERYONE ALSO HAS AN ARSEHOLE this does not mean i want to see every bloody arsehole of every bloody person just cos they think it looks pretty.......
A rom with nothing on except sense framework and some basic apps that obviously let the phone function fully is totally DESIREable
meh to anyone that wants to try and bash people for having an idea that someone doesnt agree with
meh to you
munkimatt said:
The constant sync issue seems similar to one that occurred during the early days of Sense-less Desire ROMs, that used to cause huge battery drain. Unsure if it does the same here but constant sync is never a good thing, right?
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I've searched PaY87's thread and haven't seen you or Beamen1 asking for new release with fixed issues. There is no ROM that will be perfect from it's first release like you want. Instead of making wishlists why don't you support PaY87 by asking all those questions in his thread and maybe even donating to his work?
Why don't you people make such a discussion on Microsoft forum, huh? "Windows 8 - what would you like to have included in the OS". What is the voting for? You think that CLEAN SENSE ROM will have 80% and in one moment all devs will listen to the majority and make such ROM's? You think that there is no developer thinking about clean sense ROM already? I know at least 2 are working on it.
You want clean sense rom? THEN WAIT UNTIL THERE WILL BE ONE AVAILABLE. We know that there is a need for such ROM's like in every device section. Desire HD is not different in this point.
mike1986. said:
I've searched PaY87's thread and haven't seen you or Beamen1 asking for new release with fixed issues. There is no ROM that will be perfect from it's first release like you want. Instead of making wishlists why don't you support PaY87 by asking all those questions in his thread and maybe even donating to his work?
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Like I SAID 3? times before. I'm going out and asking what members WANT from a ROM. The larger majority of the users have said they want a ROM to be an "OS" - as in CLEAN, NO APPS, with HTC Sense. No ROM at the moment is CLOSE to this. Hopefully the Devs like my idea, and do something about it after feedback from several users
I'm putting this idea out here, and wanting people to vote and discuss. You are obviously not doing it as you hate the idea. We know that, now move on.
If you want to discuss this further, please PM me. We have filled this forum with enough OT talk.
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No ROM at the moment is CLOSE to this. Hopefully the Devs like my idea, and do something about it after feedback from several users
I'm putting this idea out here, and wanting people to vote and discuss. You are obviously not doing it as you hate the idea. We know that, now move on.
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WTF are u talking about? Your idea? Clean ROM's are your idea? Are you kidding me?
No, I don't hate the idea. Idea is good and it's known since long time to make clean ROMs. I just hate (no hate - I don't like is a better word) the way you express it.

[rom request] Vanilla makes Sense...

Ok... there are a nice hand full of "sense-less" sense roms out right now, Athena being my favorite of these. But once upon a time, before Incdoes blew up into a monster dev (then crashed and burned) he did the complete opposite. He had his "Best of both worlds" AOSP rom with sense stuff in it (rom thread here) This was my favorite rom at that time.... I like AOSP but also like a lot of the sense... i know i'm not the only one who feels the same, so can this be done now with GB? Hope someone with the skills tries this cuz i think people would like this also......
I still have his v2.0 and v2.1 if someone wants to take a look at them and try for them selves.....
download links....
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15212713/best of 2 worlds/IncDoes_AOSP_v2.0_signed.zip
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15212713/best of 2 worlds/IncDoes_AOSPv2.1_signed.zip
hey stoney.....i would love to try it out...still looking for something different...and I never tried it when he was around...was digging his DesireZ, and am still running it to this day, even though i can't access internal memory...where can I get it?
I agree. I LOVED that rom. Sense widget support with a stock launcher (and feel) for me would be ideal. Great idea trying to bring something of this caliber back!
JoeProcopio said:
hey stoney.....i would love to try it out...still looking for something different...and I never tried it when he was around...was digging his DesireZ, and am still running it to this day, even though i can't access internal memory...where can I get it?
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I'll post v2.0 and 2.1 as soon as I get home, about 30min......
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Yup.... The ones yoe momma told ya about.... Bad Seed Customs!!
WOuld this rom be able to use the sense facebook and such?
Updated OP with download links.....
Edit: Disregard
The only thing I miss from Sense is the camera app. Widgets etc. I never really cared for. The Sense camera is amazing though.
crondable said:
The only thing I miss from Sense is the camera app. Widgets etc. I never really cared for. The Sense camera is amazing though.
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That's one of the major things that takes me back to sense....
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Yup.... The ones yoe momma told ya about.... Bad Seed Customs!!
I'd love to pull is HTC Flashlight and Camera apps for AOSP Gingerbread
bump cuz i want this!!!!!!!
It seems like the think in that rom that worked were just apks werent they?
Most HTC apks should be installable still. Im not sure if that rom used actually sense widgets or not.
I think there are framework issues. Especially since HTC has not released their gingerbread update yet. Even then, I'm sure its proprietary.
Khanam also posted 2.3 in the original thread. This may help whoever wants to take this over.
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found 2.3 in my office pc. its 77.25mb. here is the link. should work. flashing it was finicky when i flashed it way back so dont be surprised if you get FCs. also how i got it to work was by flashing it over cm6. maybe it was just me
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2IMUZX8G
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