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open , choose an better speaker, replace with it
replace with what though? The mini speaker itself is very small. A better alternative would be to get a charging cradle with audio out and connect up a pair of speakers to the cradle or get a cradle speaker from Expansys.
Get a different phone is how you do it.
Or buy a hi-fi speaker connect to your ppc....
my speaker died.. i opened it up.. removed speaker.. now looking for another to replace it. Maybe a headphone/earphone speaker might fit...
I can´t find the thread. But a long time ago, somebody posted that he had replaced it with a nokia 6100 speaker.
shine on
Is this the speaker on the back of the phone, next to the camera that people are talking about ? or the ear piece one ?
im not sure if it is meant for that particular speaker, but the nokia ngage speaker apparently has the same piece as the imate jam and is therefore interchangeable..
The mini speaker can be made louder by upgrading the rom
i also have front speaker defekt, i bought new one for nokia 6610, the same has ngage and some other
it is the same speaker as in our mda compact, it works without problem!
arek
I lost the loudspeaker-sound in my Himalya. It works using headphones. I think it may have to do with another set of headphone I connected to it, which was not original. Perhaps it put the device on permanent headphone mode. But then again it might not have anything to do with that.
Is there a Himalaya expert in Berlin - Germany who might be able to help me with it? I dread having to send it to the official reapir center, as I expect it to cost a neck and a hand.
Happened to me when I received a call whilst listening to music. I pulled the headphones out before answering the call, and then answered it. I could here them but they cvouldn't hear me. If you plug the headphones in again and remove them it solves the problem. Well it did for me anyway
I tried that. I doesn't do it. It doesn't matter what kind of sound, if Media Player file is played of phone ringing, only the headphones work. I think I need a dotor.
I have read a lot about the problem in others threads. It seems the headphone-jack can get stuck, not making a contact, which normally is being made and which turns the XDA back to speaker mode, when the headphone-jack is pulled out. Hereto:
1- What does that mean exactely? Which part is that, in what part in the on-board jack? If it had been bent out of place, is it possible to bend the part pack (at best without having to disassemble)? (I tried the ramming in and out, no go).
2- I looked at the non-original jack I had used and it is about 2 mm longer than the original. Might perhaps that explain it? Is there a part in the back that could have been bent out of place?
3- If indeed this was the problem (if the jack had been bent out of place, one way or another), would the microphone work? I can record using the dictaphone and the micophone also works during a call.
When we had himalaya's it happened to both of our devices (my wife and I had one each).
It appears the spring in the speaker can come loose. I used to bang mine (pardon the pun) on my palm and sometimes it would start to work. Then we broke the speaker protection shield, and this made it easier sometimes and hard to fix in others.
When I sold it, my friend took it apart as it was out of warranty, and as he is electrically minded, he find the dodgy bit, and soldered it to the device, and now works perfectly.
Yes! Thanks Jasjar. It worked after a bit of beating.
I found a detailed instruction of how to fix it permanently in another thread. Sounds complicated and dangerous but eventually I must do it.
ran2far said:
I have read a lot about the problem in others threads. It seems the headphone-jack can get stuck, not making a contact, which normally is being made and which turns the XDA back to speaker mode, when the headphone-jack is pulled out.
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Sorry for kicking the topic, but this was the solution for me. I just poked in the headphone-jack with a little stick and tataaaa... my sound is back!
Sound lost problem
Hi all,
same happen to me, the sound stoped working (on my side it had nothing to do with the phone jack).
After the modifaication which is described in this forum i had still the same problem so i solder the loud speaker directly - still same problem...
After some time i flashed the device again, now it works, so on my side it was a software problem...
The device was 3 month out of power, but i think remove the battery and if the sound appears on startup (on first boot) but later not, then flash the os and it will work ...
kr
chw
XDA 2 sound problem...
Hi!
Plese help me!
I have strange problem with my XDA 2.
I bough it 2 days ago. It was in O2 network.
Now when I unlocked it for my network (polish ERA-GSM) I saw that when I'm calling I cant hear anything. Person from the other sight can't hear me too..
XDA have sound becose I used media-player ando other sound stuff, thats why I think that speaker is ok. Microphone is ok too becose I can record animations with sound.
So what should I do now? ;/
Plese help...
Just for reference:
A friend of mine had this 2020, and both Speakerphone and mic were not working.
When somebody called, the ringtone DID sound.
Anyway, bluetooth handsfree worked fine.
All we did was play with the jack, using the stylus! Not even headphones...
And now it works fine!
He says he'll never put phones on it again... lol
cu around!
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Hi, please help me find which points in the MDAII Motherboard can I solder to disable the headphones and get the audio and mic back to the MDA.
After a while my headphone-jack is broken from the motherboard and now I only have the pin outs in it.
The device is working perfect, and I can use bluetooth headphones. I just don't have audio in the speaker and no mic without bluetooth.
I hope someone can tell me which of the red points en the picture can I solder to disable the headphones.
I just want to do this temporally until I get a replacement spare part for it.
Thanks
EDIT: 12-12-2007
I got it. Just joining 1 and 3 and you will get audio back to the PDA disabling the headphones jack.
Thanks anyways for reading this..
Did you find out what all the mboard pins are for the jack?
I have a dodgy jack and would like to take flying leads of the mboard jack to an external (easily changed) inline jack. Does any know what the 1 to 6 pins correlate to. I would like to still switch the audio via the external jack. Not bothered about the mic.
TIA.
OK so as my previous post goes, my dopod 818pro's rear speaker went dead again. the 2nd time, and I've only been using it for 5-6 months now.
I just got back from the service center. and I was bumed when they say, that replacements speakers are out of stock and I had to wait for more or less a month before I can get it fixed. the person I met there didn't deny that there's been lots of problems with the speakers, he does said that the next batch of speakers will be a different one, and supposedly a better build speaker. and the first batch coming in to indo.
Can anyone outside of indo confirm that dopod is putting a new and better speaker.
don't take me wrong, I love my dopod. stable, and has good battery live. except short wi-fi range that I could live with.
And another thing, I use letter recognizer a lot. and it seems that the part of the LCD where I use to type a lot become less and less sensitive overtime. Anyone else having the same problem? or am I the only one?
my speaker went dead too..a few days ago...not that I use it much...only inconvenience for me right now is that I need to keep it in vibrate mode all the time..
.....uhm..
I Had problems with the earphone connector ( 2,5 mm stereo jack) ; in practise after a long use of the external earset , the internal loudspeaker was completely out of work....
I opened my prophet and I discovered thast the loudspeaker was ok but the problem was in a the very little contact inside the connector ; it was not able to close a serial contact . it is a critical point , in my opinion , and only after having opened the 2,5 female connector (!!) I was able to restart correctly the sound ; now everytime a connect the 2,5 male jack I'ma afraid....
My speaker went dead as well. I was suspecting the headphone jack because I had just used it.
However, I opened the phone, and also the black headphone jack socket casing. You are right, it is very vulnerable. But in my case it was working perfectly.
In fact when I closed the phone I realised that the phone was not remaining in headset mode after all...the front speaker (the one to hear conversations) works according to if the headset is plugged in or not.
Conclusion: there must be something wrong with the rear speaker itself. Any ideas where to source a new one?
hi, i got an imate jamin and i need to replace the audio jack were the handsfree pug in, do anyone know where i can find to buy this part please or if anyone had the same problem how did you solve it.
thanks guys!!
Dodgy Audio jack
My audio jack plug works fine BUT when I unplug the headset, the phone stays in headset mode i.e. no sound from the speakers. If I plug/unplug the headset a load of times it eventually goes back to normal.
Any ideas. My solution is never to use the audio jack!
Audio Jack
I've had two M600's which have done exactly the same thing, both replaced by Orange, I've now upgraded to an M700 and unlocked the old M600 with a PAYG sim and guess what that one has now lost speaker sound so that three with the same fault and this M600 has never had a headset plugged in.
Has anyone else had similar problems?
i had the same problem othillo before it broke so be carefull cause your is about to brake too, i mailed imate and they said the only way to fix it is to send it to them in dubai.. not relally keen to send it there .. but till today i havent find ther part any where it seems that imate dont send out parts ... as soon as i find an alternative i will post it here..
Is this problem caused by the connector itself or is it something else? If it is the connector I can buy a new one at the local hardware store and modify it a little bit to make it fit in my S200, probably going to replace it with an 3,5mm jack if that is possible...
it is caused by the connector in fact htc the original makers of the prophet on there new models they changed it to a usb connector for the handsfree i changed my connector many times with regulas 2.5mm connector but the sound doesnt work properly. what it does it comes out with out bass then when you push the talk button on the handsfree sound comes out good. another thing i noticed is if when you insert the jack plug in the connector and you pull it out a little bit the sound comes better and the talk button works, i know for fact cause i tried it that its not from the handsfee cause i tried it on another device and work properly. the actuall connector for them is different from what you find to buy even if you plug in normal 2.5mm headphone sound doesnt come out right . if you manage to make it work and modify the connector please post it here so who got the same prob like me can have an idea how to fix it... thanks
Audio Jack
Here is what the problem is:
Audio jacks have what is called a normally closed contact. Each contact point actually has 2 parts. In the closed (no headset) the 2 part of the contact point make contact (shorts). This enables the signal to pass through the jack to the phone speaker. When you insert a headset, the 2 points open (break contact) and signal only goes to the headset.
I'm talking from experience as a sound engineer for over 30 years and this is usually the problem 99% of the time when it comes to these type of jacks. One of the contacts (usually the ground when no sound or mic at all) breaks or can no longer "spring" back. I haven't opened mine yet but fully expect this to be the problem.
audio jack
hi jsapper, i got what you saying and your absolutly right .. the thing i replaced mine 2 times now been done by a technician who fixes phones/pdas the thing with the connectors i replaced the device doesnt work properly sound comes out with out the bass and the talk button doesnt work .. i guess that the original part got some extra connectors or most probably the pins are switched around..
do you know if there is any special connectors for them...
I have a similar pb with my S200:
After running tomtom during 2000km installed on my motorbike w/ a 2.5mm headset, sound seems to no work anymore (neither back or ear speaker), I suppose that vibrations against jack connector are responsible.
With a bluetooth or wired headset sound works.
I have soft/hard reset, upgrade to last WM5 rom, upgrade to WM6 rom, I have tried to get in/out a 2.5mm jack connector without any result.
The ring facility is working (w/ or w/o 2.5mm jack connected), so I can say that the back speaker is working.
I am looking for a solution too...
nb: I have my back speaker + screen replaced one time after 2months.
Dean.
Have you try resolder the Connector?
it was to damaged to be resolded
Hi everybody,
I aswell have this kind of problem from time to time.My solution is quite simple.You have to use the original 2,5" jack with the 3 black "dividings".(sorry for my english) This solution reduced the problem dramatically.If the problem starts now, just plug it in and out a few times and it should work again.
Cheers
Phone Jack is a mechanical mess ...
Same prob, used the headset, rear speaker dead. I opened the prophet, unsoldered the jack and found it misconstructed.
The body of the jack is plastic and not capable to withstand the forces of a plugged in headset.
There are two integrated switches - which - when headset is unplugged are closed and deliver the signal to the speaker. one of the switches does not close anymore when the headset is unplugged. My first solution was to unsolder the jack and bridge the contacts 2 and 4 as welll as 3 and 5.
The rear speaker functions now and I can use the phone.
Next step will be to find a jack solution on the market to finally solve the problem. I will keep you informed!
thanks buzzi will be looking in here... for your post!
i had the same problem with my audio jack and i searched many forums for a solution. the only thing i can say: if you really want to use it and you want go back in normal mode after unplugging, take a little needle. if you look at the audio jack (USB is left to it) you have to stick the needle in the right side of the jack somewhere an search for a little contact (the first time hard to find, the second time easy) and try to push it a bit to the left. so the prophet goes back in normal mode. it sucks but i didnt find another solution...except for buying a bluetooth headset and use software to hear music over that (for mono headsets u can use a programm calles BTAudioToggel, but make sure u use the Toggle software, because there is another one called BTAudio, it sucks because it costs money and doesn't work for me so well)
Greetz
Friends,
My prophet has exactly the same symptoms. However, I opened up the phone and carefully examined the jack. It is crap, sure, but at least on my phone it is not at fault. I tested with a continuity meter and the contact mechanism was working perfectly. Those who tried this measure without success read the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281331
In my case it is definitely a problem with the speaker, and it seems to be eqaully common. It seems that there is more than one problem dogging the speaker of ths model.
mine's got the small contact switch problem.
it started last night! SO Annoying. Plugging a friend's original 2.5mm adapter in and out solved it temporarily. Then it went again! I have only got a 3rd party 2.5mm plug, and it took me ages to trip the small switch back with that. I have now got a BT headset on order.
Can't wait for the newer design HTC headphone adapter as I have had this problem with 5 different devices! (Tanager, Typhoon, Hurricane, Tornado and now Prophet.)
would agree with hybrid the needle trick fixed it ran media player so i could tell when it was working again. it was mentioned before that using the 2.5mm adaptor with ibky 2 rings as opposed to 3 causes this problem. I can identify with this as i have been using my dopod h/free with no problems for months i use the adaptor to plug in my headphones one time and get a eap of issues!
i will adapt a h/free to plug in some nicer headphones!
Can i use the USB connection as a handsfree port on my prophet?
Cheers
Hi, Prophet's USB is not a USB hub and thus not usable for connecting external devices - only way is bluetooth ...
thanks buzzi
I never use the earphones and the other week I did to listen to the radio during a blackout with the storm we had(I live in newcastle NSW). Since then the phone thinks the earphones are connected all the time but they are not. I've removed the battery and sim and can look through the hole to see about 4 contacts three just on the sides and 1 protruding about 1mm. Should there be 2 protruding ? Is one stuck and therefore throwing a contact to tell the phone to switch off its in built speaker ?? When I go to the radio now the green icon that shows you if your in speaker or earphone use is always set to earphones. When I change it the tick from tapping comes back but the phone ear speaker still does not work. I have looked for a similar problem on the forum but cannot see anything. BTW I have doublesided sticky tape on my battery now after reading a thread.
thanks in advance
are you using o2 headset or some other headset. I encountered this when i used a third party headset jack. After I USED back o2 stereo headset, it work probably
it's the O2 headset you know the one that doesn't fit in your ear. Can you tell me what you see in your 2.5mm earphone jack. Am I barking up the wrong tree thinking it's a mechanical fault with the jack ?
I had the exact same problem with my RW6828, it was repaired for the problem three times before it was replaced. I managed to get it to work for a couple of hours once by putting an alen key into the socket. Other than that, repair or replace.
if it is the o2 atom headset, that mean yr jack might have problem. Is it possible, you shake the o2 headset.
I believe this is one of the common o2 problem.
thread and solution found
ok I didn't look hard enough - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302476&highlight=jack