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Finger Friendly Outlook

I was wondering if anyone is working on a way to give the "PocketCM" treatment to outlook. If ever there was a need to add some finger friendliness to an app, Outlook is the one. Is there a technical reason that this has not been done, or is it simply not possible? Can there be an app that interacts with Outlook that would give this sort of functionality?
I know that there are a LOT of talented dev here, and I use your apps, and man would it be sweet (Like I would even pay for test versions of an app/client) to have something like this to go along with the S2 app and POcketCM/ThumbCal.

Sigh.......uh.........FTouchSL.
Is Google still working?

TheChampJT said:
Sigh.......uh.........FTouchSL.
Is Google still working?
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*Gasp* Wow! You mean FTouchSL now resizes hyperlinks and attachments and contact boxes and menu options and all that so that I don't have to hit them with a fingernail?! Man, I have TOTALLY not been keeping up with THAT piece of software! I'm so glad you informed us about those new developments in the FTouchSL world, Champ. I mean, I'm sure you're not equating "finger-friendly" entirely with just the ability to scroll, because that would just be incredibly short-sighted, asinine and totally miss out on a lot of what the original poster was probably asking for. So thanks, I'm going to go check out their new version right now.

Blowfish64 said:
*Gasp* Wow! You mean FTouchSL now resizes hyperlinks and attachments and contact boxes and menu options and all that so that I don't have to hit them with a fingernail?! Man, I have TOTALLY not been keeping up with THAT piece of software! I'm so glad you informed us about those new developments in the FTouchSL world, Champ. I mean, I'm sure you're not equating "finger-friendly" entirely with just the ability to scroll, because that would just be incredibly short-sighted, asinine and totally miss out on a lot of what the original poster was probably asking for. So thanks, I'm going to go check out their new version right now.
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Another sigh.....
PocketCM's contact input is quite similar to poutlook, I would suggest a different app, but the OP wanted a finger friendly poutlook, so yes I did suggest FTouchSL. One of the biggest downsides, in my opinion and I'm sure others, is that there is no "flick n' scroll" feature avail. So, that's right, I suggested it, and it is a perfect way to make poutlook finger-friendly, have a better idea?
P.S.: I'll quote the OP here, "Can there be an app that interacts with Outlook that would give this sort of functionality?"

TheChampJT said:
Another sigh.....
PocketCM's contact input is quite similar to poutlook, I would suggest a different app, but the OP wanted a finger friendly poutlook, so yes I did suggest FTouchSL. One of the biggest downsides, in my opinion and I'm sure others, is that there is no "flick n' scroll" feature avail. So, that's right, I suggested it, and it is a perfect way to make poutlook finger-friendly, have a better idea?
P.S.: I'll quote the OP here, "Can there be an app that interacts with Outlook that would give this sort of functionality?"
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I also want to quote OP (and this is his first sentence): "I was wondering if anyone is working on a way to give the "PocketCM" treatment to outlook."
you are just trying to manipulate what OP said for you own cause...
so.. what your answer should have been.. "if you want scrolling then go for FtouchSL or Ftouchflo (free version), for other functionalities, currently there is no software (atleast i dont know about)"

oyegaurav83 said:
I also want to quote OP (and this is his first sentence): "I was wondering if anyone is working on a way to give the "PocketCM" treatment to outlook."
you are just trying to manipulate what OP said for you own cause...
so.. what your answer should have been.. "if you want scrolling then go for FtouchSL or Ftouchflo (free version), for other functionalities, currently there is no software (atleast i dont know about)"
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No manipulation here, personally I'm not too worried with what this guy uses or will use, but I gave a suggestion. Currently, your right, there is no other addition, other than FTouchSL, to WM software that will make it "finger friendly", but I'm sure glad you also found it necessary to go against my opinion. While this doesn't modify poutlook's design or layout, the scroll option does make it easier to browse through and select your data for viewing. I'll kick back here and wait for your suggestion !

TheChampJT said:
I'll kick back here and wait for your suggestion !
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Yes, here is a suggestion. Drop your attitude when you respond to a legitimate question.

TheChampJT said:
No manipulation here, personally I'm not too worried with what this guy uses or will use, but I gave a suggestion. Currently, your right, there is no other addition, other than FTouchSL, to WM software that will make it "finger friendly", but I'm sure glad you also found it necessary to go against my opinion. While this doesn't modify poutlook's design or layout, the scroll option does make it easier to browse through and select your data for viewing. I'll kick back here and wait for your suggestion !
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actually "atleast i dont know about" was as much for me as for you..
and blowfish you can take it easy.. i think champ just misunderstood the OP..

I appreciate the "spirited" response my post has elicited! My intent was to truly get away from the stock Outlook interface as it is damn near impossible to navigate with one hand, even with FTouchSL. I have been using a trial version, and I have found, though the app is a pretty sweet piece of work, that it interferes with the "finger friendliness" of other app designed to handle kinetic scrolling and the like on their own.
With apps like PocketCM and ThumbCal, I am able to avoid much of the insanity of the GUI for Calendars, Contacts, and SMS. I would LOVE to have it this way with email as that is something that is integral to my core business and primary use of the device.

GScroll

Does anyone know about this ..looks like a cool app...ordering it right now
http://www.handango.com/catalog/Pro...&deviceId=2062&platformId=30&productId=239378

wow looks awsome, ill try the trial

looks neat - the question is how to enable/disable it without it interfering with the normal features of the phone...

basically a basic version of ftouchsl, ftouchsl has gestures though

xboxhaxorz said:
basically a basic version of ftouchsl, ftouchsl has gestures though
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It's using the touch panel though- the capacitive part of the screen...not the main screen itself.

Ok, I bought the app, but the installer doesn't work on Vista, can anyone please provide me with a .cab for this? Thanks!

its in program files or the directory you saved it in. so im installing right now, well tell you what I think of it very soon!

might hsve been just the way my settings were but when I used this it did not seem one bit functional, I advise you to try the trial first. I uninstalled it slmost immediately. Just ststing mu experiences yours may be different

Wow, how secret is this. Need to register at Handango to download a trial that expires after 2 minutes, YES in words: TWO MINUTES.
And it comes as .msi file that requires .NET 3.5
Hell that's a challenge to try this thing out.
Hopefully it will not be considered as warez if I attach the cab here.

axelpix said:
Wow, how secret is this. Need to register at Handango to download a trial that expires after 2 minutes, YES in words: TWO MINUTES.
And it comes as .msi file that requires .NET 3.5
Hell that's a challenge to try this thing out.
Hopefully it will not be considered as warez if I attach the cab here.
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Yes. It will be considered as Warez to attach here since Handango needs registration to download this file which is mandatory as per their policy. Removing the attachment from here and please refrain from re-attachment else its bansville
Its like XDA needing registration to post something in here

Hey
I just tested the app.
I think the scrolling is not that best, or I m even doing wrong.
But I like the feature to assign Applications to the Buttons.
So You have the 4 buttons ( home, back, call, end ), and
you can assign 4 Apps to its touchpanel.
So we can map a Taskmanager to a Button.
Maybe someone can test the scrolling, and tell his results
greets doena

I attached the trial .cab file for everyone (without windows, .NET, etc) to try...
For me the program works good. The scrolling feature will help a lot of us, who can't easily find the directional buttons...

I HAVE POSTED A WARNING JUST 2 POSTS ABOVE YOURS. IF ANYONE CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS PM ME AND I'LL EXPLAIN. DO NOT POST THE CAB FILES HERE, HANDANGO DOESNT NEED XDA TO ACT LIKE MIRRORS. NEXT ATTACHMENT HERE WILL SEND THIS THREAD TO CLOSURE AND NON OBEYING MEMBER TO BANSVILLE

doena said:
Hey
I think the scrolling is not that best, or I m even doing wrong.
Maybe someone can test the scrolling, and tell his results
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Yes, the scrolling through G-Sensor is not the best experience in my opinion too. I tested this in TotalCommander and contacts list. It's too slow for me.
But the swipe scroll works quite fine. It's like a whole page down every swipe.
Yes. It will be considered as Warez to attach here since Handango needs registration to download this file which is mandatory as per their policy
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Understood. Thanks and sorry!

It works fine for me, but it doesn't work for games (I tested it with Gstunt).... Maybe future releases will solve the problem...

I tried it for the 2 minutes it was worth. The scrolling is really just one movement up or down at a time...not really kinetic scrolling. It was a little tricky to get it on and off also (waiting to feel the vibration of it comin to life). I may buy it though...for the price I'll play with it...it does keep your figners off of the screen.

I played with the demo this morning instead of doing work.
Not bad with the scrolling, although it does not recognize 100% of the finger swipes. I couldn't get tap and tilt to work at all. And the slide over the center key was glitchy.
What I really would prefer is an app that will scroll up and down just by me tapping, but not clicking, the screen. It seems Gscroll could add that feature pretty easily.

The demo cab is available at the programmer's website, so it is neither "warez" nor is there any need to post it here. The website is www.mobilesrc.com.

Similar issues for me...
For the money, it's a reasonable piece of software, but useablility... it's not that good in my opinion. As mentioned above, it's far too slow. One 'swipe' moves one item in the list. It needs to be kinetic like a finger swipe on the screen. And it's not that responsive to touch. Sometimes it'll respond OK, other times it ignores my touch on the pad.
Great idea... needs a little more work

^is this guy for real, or what?
didn't he see the 2 posts from the mod in this thread?
well, look like the thread will be closing soon.

Use X1's Optical Pad as On Screen Mouse!!

Hi,
i found this in another thread, i was just wondering whether any devlopers would be able to use this file and adapt it to work with the x1? I would do it myself but im useless at all this stuff... (and plus i dont know how.)
The file can be found through this link-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440141&highlight=screen+sensitivity&page=2

What good would it do you to have a mouse pointer on the X1 screen? If the OS isn't optimized for it, there'll be no real benefit.
I used the demo of True Connect for a while which lets you move your PC mouse off of the screen onto the X1 screen. Very slick, but ultimately just a novelty because it didn't add any useful functionality to the X1. If they added drag and drop they would be on to something.

Correct me if I'm wrong but, I think the only reason why this hasn't been done already is because on the driver side the optical pad output is digital, eg: just 4 directions, and not coordinate output, like say a mouse.

samsung omnia has this option, (change from 4 way scrolling to a mouse).
Would be great to have this on the Xperia

wow my first post xD
@korval
i have to correct you....
a standard PC mouse with an oldschool trackball has also only 2 axis to get 4 directions but you can move the pointet over the screen like you want....
jo do not need more than this two axis but the only thing is to detect both of them simultaniously......
and i Love the pointer on Omnia but i dint like the Omnia itselve...... its only my second "emergency" device
ah and sry für bad english im a german one xD

On Screen Mouse
I'd be keen for this as well - it would be a nice cool UI feature.
What is really annoying (and spose off topic), the use of the optical pad doesn't register as a button/screen press, so the password lock screen comes up while you are using the optical pad to scroll!
(i was forced to set a longer timeout.. ah well, can't have everything secure..)

the_black_dragon said:
wow my first post xD
@korval
i have to correct you....
a standard PC mouse with an oldschool trackball has also only 2 axis to get 4 directions but you can move the pointet over the screen like you want....
jo do not need more than this two axis but the only thing is to detect both of them simultaniously......
and i Love the pointer on Omnia but i dint like the Omnia itselve...... its only my second "emergency" device
ah and sry für bad english im a german one xD
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Yip, thats what I meant! I think you explained it a bit better than I did.

And now i will quote here what ive also written in another thread for this:
I will donate 50€ for the one who do this that its working like on my Omnia.....
this is a promise!!!!!!
would anyone use a laptop touchpad only like arrow keys instead of a mouse pointer??? NO!!!!
Greetz

i dont get it.
why not use the touch screen?
what reasons would u need this for?

the reason is that i want to use my device some times (if im on the walk) with only one handy.... also to use the browser......
the TF3D and spb etc is good to handle in one hand but not the browser like obera and opera mini..... also the small checkboxex in some programs are too small.....
on omnia i never have to use the stylus and i want to have this feature on my X1 because it MUST be possible!!!!!!

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the reason is that i want to use my device some times (if im on the walk) with only one handy.... also to use the browser......
the TF3D and spb etc is good to handle in one hand but not the browser like obera and opera mini..... also the small checkboxex in some programs are too small.....
on omnia i never have to use the stylus and i want to have this feature on my X1 because it MUST be possible!!!!!!
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I agree 100%

Opera Mobile 10 has this built-in.

r3bel said:
Opera Mobile 10 has this built-in.
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yeah but it is too slowwwww

I dont understand some people here. Why are certain users against an additional input method? Isnt it a fact that everything that broadens the spectrum of available possibilities is generally a good thing? Have we fallen under Apple philosophy that condemns options that were not intended by the developer of the phone?
For me its clear that I would highly appreciate any additional way to control my device, especially a mouse pointer since this could replace the stylus when on the move. Even the small checkboxes would not force me to pull out the stylus anymore. How can anybody not support this? I dont get it. Isnt WM about freedom of choice?

I dont think anyone is against it, its just any developers who have read this dont think its important enough at the moment to spend time on, especially if they have other ongoing projects. But feel free to develop it yourself, no one will criticise you for making it, and if you do make it I am sure plenty of people will use it. No one here is Steve Jobs. lol.

korval said:
I agree 100%
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I need a mouse smooth cursor llike the PC mouse for X1.tks!!!

Text input in opera not working right

when I'm entering text using opera, such as when posting on this forum double tapping space doesn't add a full stop, and it doesn't capitalize the first letter of the sentence like it does typing sms. Does anyone else have this, and can it be fixed?

snerkler said:
when I'm entering text using opera, such as when posting on this forum double tapping space doesn't add a full stop, and it doesn't capitalize the first letter of the sentence like it does typing sms. Does anyone else have this, and can it be fixed?
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It works exactly the same as a computer in this respect. The capitalisation only works in applications that it's coded in, so you won't get that in web sites, and double-tapping space will just give you 2 spaces. Does that give you a full-stop anywhere? I've never heard of that functionality, and don't see the point since the full-stop is right next to the space bar!
So it can't be fixed, as it's functioning correctly. Can it be changed? No. This would require a code change within Opera. You could ask them for it

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It works exactly the same as a computer in this respect. The capitalisation only works in applications that it's coded in, so you won't get that in web sites, and double-tapping space will just give you 2 spaces. Does that give you a full-stop anywhere? I've never heard of that functionality, and don't see the point since the full-stop is right next to the space bar!
So it can't be fixed, as it's functioning correctly. Can it be changed? No. This would require a code change within Opera. You could ask them for it
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Oh, ok. It works in sms so assumed it would work in everything like on the iPhone. No worries then, at least I know it's normal.

snerkler said:
Oh, ok. It works in sms so assumed it would work in everything like on the iPhone. No worries then, at least I know it's normal.
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Afraid not, no. It only works where it's coded to work, which is exactly like the iPhone. It's Safari that does capitalisation in web pages, not the phone

johncmolyneux said:
Afraid not, no. It only works where it's coded to work, which is exactly like the iPhone. It's Safari that does capitalisation in web pages, not the phone
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Oh right, thanks for the info. Maybe I should get onto opera then

N1 using as Webcam

Hi,
on my Wm Phone I could use the phonecam as a webcam over BT or USB Cable does this work with my n1?

audino said:
Hi,
on my Wm Phone I could use the phonecam as a webcam over BT or USB Cable does this work with my n1?
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ORB Live will do that and than some for $9.99

oklahomatulsa said:
ORB Live will do that and than some for $9.99
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there is no word about be able to do webcamera on a windows pc with the phone... sorry orb live wont do it
i would like to use the nexus one as a webcamera for my laptop and viewing webcams on the n1...

I've done it with orb... no problem.
Make sure you set up their latest edition and use it through the web browser. Their app sucks... through the browser its free

I can see how you can use a PC Webcam and bring it to the N1 using this software, but I really don't see how to do the opposite.
How do I use the N1 as the webcam that's viewable on a PC?

qik anybody?

aad4321 said:
google it. i know there is a dev out there who has a working on on 1.6. He hasent done 2.1 yet because he does not have a N1 to test with. currently i do not believe their is an app or way to do this yet
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I have "googled it". What search terms would you suggest to get some relavent results? When I do searches I typically end up with two hits that at first seem like they might be useful. The first goes to google's forum and is worthless... the next one links to this very thread.
Two different people here have said they've done it with orb... it's pretty reasonable to ask them how they did it since doing searches on orb's site don't give anything fruitful.

audino said:
there is no word about be able to do webcamera on a windows pc with the phone... sorry orb live wont do it
i would like to use the nexus one as a webcamera for my laptop and viewing webcams on the n1...
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http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/02/orb-live-app-review/

oklahomatulsa said:
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/02/orb-live-app-review/
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Why do you keep posting off topic?
Let's start over and read the question being asked and see if there's a solution.
We all know that Orb will let you stream a webcam that's connected TO YOUR PC to your phone.
That is NOT what we're trying to accomplish.
We'd like to be able to (as the thread states) "N1 using as a webcam" Use the N1's built in camera to stream live video to another place.
I would like to be able to set the phone down, aim it's camera at something and then have someone else... PC across the planet... whatever... be able to see what the phone is aimed at.
Does anyone know how to do that?

mikebeatrice said:
Why do you keep posting off topic?
Let's start over and read the question being asked and see if there's a solution.
We all know that Orb will let you stream a webcam that's connected TO YOUR PC to your phone.
That is NOT what we're trying to accomplish.
We'd like to be able to (as the thread states) "N1 using as a webcam" Use the N1's built in camera to stream live video to another place.
I would like to be able to set the phone down, aim it's camera at something and then have someone else... PC across the planet... whatever... be able to see what the phone is aimed at.
Does anyone know how to do that?
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Look at what I found on the market yesterday:
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.usbwebcam-application-wCCC.aspx
Haven't tested. Enjoy

tokyomonster said:
Look at what I found on the market yesterday:
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.usbwebcam-application-wCCC.aspx
Haven't tested. Enjoy
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Now that's what I'm talkin about. Good find. Will try out and report back.
*edit* This must have been removed from the market. I even went to the publisher's page on the phone and clicked the market link they have there and it takes you to a "no matches" page... boo...
do you still have the 0.4 apk?

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Now that's what I'm talkin about. Good find. Will try out and report back.
*edit* This must have been removed from the market. I even went to the publisher's page on the phone and clicked the market link they have there and it takes you to a "no matches" page... boo...
do you still have the 0.4 apk?
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I do. I'll rip it when I get home if I remember, but you'll also need a software client on the PC side which I do not have.
Looks like it's still here though: http://www.placaware.com/?page_id=6

tokyomonster said:
I do. I'll rip it when I get home if I remember, but you'll also need a software client on the PC side which I do not have.
Looks like it's still here though: http://www.placaware.com/?page_id=6
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Yea, that's the point I'm at... I wonder why they took it down.
The only issue I'm seeing is that they say it only gets 3fps... that ... kinda sucks.
*edit* and thanks for grabbin the apk off your phone later.. I appreciate it.

Another issue I'm having, and maybe it's just because I don't have it attached to a computer yet, but everything is rotated 90 degrees counter-clockwise on my n1 and a portion of the bottom mirrors the image.