Text input in opera not working right - HD2 General

when I'm entering text using opera, such as when posting on this forum double tapping space doesn't add a full stop, and it doesn't capitalize the first letter of the sentence like it does typing sms. Does anyone else have this, and can it be fixed?

snerkler said:
when I'm entering text using opera, such as when posting on this forum double tapping space doesn't add a full stop, and it doesn't capitalize the first letter of the sentence like it does typing sms. Does anyone else have this, and can it be fixed?
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It works exactly the same as a computer in this respect. The capitalisation only works in applications that it's coded in, so you won't get that in web sites, and double-tapping space will just give you 2 spaces. Does that give you a full-stop anywhere? I've never heard of that functionality, and don't see the point since the full-stop is right next to the space bar!
So it can't be fixed, as it's functioning correctly. Can it be changed? No. This would require a code change within Opera. You could ask them for it

johncmolyneux said:
It works exactly the same as a computer in this respect. The capitalisation only works in applications that it's coded in, so you won't get that in web sites, and double-tapping space will just give you 2 spaces. Does that give you a full-stop anywhere? I've never heard of that functionality, and don't see the point since the full-stop is right next to the space bar!
So it can't be fixed, as it's functioning correctly. Can it be changed? No. This would require a code change within Opera. You could ask them for it
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Oh, ok. It works in sms so assumed it would work in everything like on the iPhone. No worries then, at least I know it's normal.

snerkler said:
Oh, ok. It works in sms so assumed it would work in everything like on the iPhone. No worries then, at least I know it's normal.
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Afraid not, no. It only works where it's coded to work, which is exactly like the iPhone. It's Safari that does capitalisation in web pages, not the phone

johncmolyneux said:
Afraid not, no. It only works where it's coded to work, which is exactly like the iPhone. It's Safari that does capitalisation in web pages, not the phone
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Oh right, thanks for the info. Maybe I should get onto opera then

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Finger Friendly Outlook

I was wondering if anyone is working on a way to give the "PocketCM" treatment to outlook. If ever there was a need to add some finger friendliness to an app, Outlook is the one. Is there a technical reason that this has not been done, or is it simply not possible? Can there be an app that interacts with Outlook that would give this sort of functionality?
I know that there are a LOT of talented dev here, and I use your apps, and man would it be sweet (Like I would even pay for test versions of an app/client) to have something like this to go along with the S2 app and POcketCM/ThumbCal.
Sigh.......uh.........FTouchSL.
Is Google still working?
TheChampJT said:
Sigh.......uh.........FTouchSL.
Is Google still working?
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*Gasp* Wow! You mean FTouchSL now resizes hyperlinks and attachments and contact boxes and menu options and all that so that I don't have to hit them with a fingernail?! Man, I have TOTALLY not been keeping up with THAT piece of software! I'm so glad you informed us about those new developments in the FTouchSL world, Champ. I mean, I'm sure you're not equating "finger-friendly" entirely with just the ability to scroll, because that would just be incredibly short-sighted, asinine and totally miss out on a lot of what the original poster was probably asking for. So thanks, I'm going to go check out their new version right now.
Blowfish64 said:
*Gasp* Wow! You mean FTouchSL now resizes hyperlinks and attachments and contact boxes and menu options and all that so that I don't have to hit them with a fingernail?! Man, I have TOTALLY not been keeping up with THAT piece of software! I'm so glad you informed us about those new developments in the FTouchSL world, Champ. I mean, I'm sure you're not equating "finger-friendly" entirely with just the ability to scroll, because that would just be incredibly short-sighted, asinine and totally miss out on a lot of what the original poster was probably asking for. So thanks, I'm going to go check out their new version right now.
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Another sigh.....
PocketCM's contact input is quite similar to poutlook, I would suggest a different app, but the OP wanted a finger friendly poutlook, so yes I did suggest FTouchSL. One of the biggest downsides, in my opinion and I'm sure others, is that there is no "flick n' scroll" feature avail. So, that's right, I suggested it, and it is a perfect way to make poutlook finger-friendly, have a better idea?
P.S.: I'll quote the OP here, "Can there be an app that interacts with Outlook that would give this sort of functionality?"
TheChampJT said:
Another sigh.....
PocketCM's contact input is quite similar to poutlook, I would suggest a different app, but the OP wanted a finger friendly poutlook, so yes I did suggest FTouchSL. One of the biggest downsides, in my opinion and I'm sure others, is that there is no "flick n' scroll" feature avail. So, that's right, I suggested it, and it is a perfect way to make poutlook finger-friendly, have a better idea?
P.S.: I'll quote the OP here, "Can there be an app that interacts with Outlook that would give this sort of functionality?"
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I also want to quote OP (and this is his first sentence): "I was wondering if anyone is working on a way to give the "PocketCM" treatment to outlook."
you are just trying to manipulate what OP said for you own cause...
so.. what your answer should have been.. "if you want scrolling then go for FtouchSL or Ftouchflo (free version), for other functionalities, currently there is no software (atleast i dont know about)"
oyegaurav83 said:
I also want to quote OP (and this is his first sentence): "I was wondering if anyone is working on a way to give the "PocketCM" treatment to outlook."
you are just trying to manipulate what OP said for you own cause...
so.. what your answer should have been.. "if you want scrolling then go for FtouchSL or Ftouchflo (free version), for other functionalities, currently there is no software (atleast i dont know about)"
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No manipulation here, personally I'm not too worried with what this guy uses or will use, but I gave a suggestion. Currently, your right, there is no other addition, other than FTouchSL, to WM software that will make it "finger friendly", but I'm sure glad you also found it necessary to go against my opinion. While this doesn't modify poutlook's design or layout, the scroll option does make it easier to browse through and select your data for viewing. I'll kick back here and wait for your suggestion !
TheChampJT said:
I'll kick back here and wait for your suggestion !
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Yes, here is a suggestion. Drop your attitude when you respond to a legitimate question.
TheChampJT said:
No manipulation here, personally I'm not too worried with what this guy uses or will use, but I gave a suggestion. Currently, your right, there is no other addition, other than FTouchSL, to WM software that will make it "finger friendly", but I'm sure glad you also found it necessary to go against my opinion. While this doesn't modify poutlook's design or layout, the scroll option does make it easier to browse through and select your data for viewing. I'll kick back here and wait for your suggestion !
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actually "atleast i dont know about" was as much for me as for you..
and blowfish you can take it easy.. i think champ just misunderstood the OP..
I appreciate the "spirited" response my post has elicited! My intent was to truly get away from the stock Outlook interface as it is damn near impossible to navigate with one hand, even with FTouchSL. I have been using a trial version, and I have found, though the app is a pretty sweet piece of work, that it interferes with the "finger friendliness" of other app designed to handle kinetic scrolling and the like on their own.
With apps like PocketCM and ThumbCal, I am able to avoid much of the insanity of the GUI for Calendars, Contacts, and SMS. I would LOVE to have it this way with email as that is something that is integral to my core business and primary use of the device.

GScroll

Does anyone know about this ..looks like a cool app...ordering it right now
http://www.handango.com/catalog/Pro...&deviceId=2062&platformId=30&productId=239378
wow looks awsome, ill try the trial
looks neat - the question is how to enable/disable it without it interfering with the normal features of the phone...
basically a basic version of ftouchsl, ftouchsl has gestures though
xboxhaxorz said:
basically a basic version of ftouchsl, ftouchsl has gestures though
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It's using the touch panel though- the capacitive part of the screen...not the main screen itself.
Ok, I bought the app, but the installer doesn't work on Vista, can anyone please provide me with a .cab for this? Thanks!
its in program files or the directory you saved it in. so im installing right now, well tell you what I think of it very soon!
might hsve been just the way my settings were but when I used this it did not seem one bit functional, I advise you to try the trial first. I uninstalled it slmost immediately. Just ststing mu experiences yours may be different
Wow, how secret is this. Need to register at Handango to download a trial that expires after 2 minutes, YES in words: TWO MINUTES.
And it comes as .msi file that requires .NET 3.5
Hell that's a challenge to try this thing out.
Hopefully it will not be considered as warez if I attach the cab here.
axelpix said:
Wow, how secret is this. Need to register at Handango to download a trial that expires after 2 minutes, YES in words: TWO MINUTES.
And it comes as .msi file that requires .NET 3.5
Hell that's a challenge to try this thing out.
Hopefully it will not be considered as warez if I attach the cab here.
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Yes. It will be considered as Warez to attach here since Handango needs registration to download this file which is mandatory as per their policy. Removing the attachment from here and please refrain from re-attachment else its bansville
Its like XDA needing registration to post something in here
Hey
I just tested the app.
I think the scrolling is not that best, or I m even doing wrong.
But I like the feature to assign Applications to the Buttons.
So You have the 4 buttons ( home, back, call, end ), and
you can assign 4 Apps to its touchpanel.
So we can map a Taskmanager to a Button.
Maybe someone can test the scrolling, and tell his results
greets doena
I attached the trial .cab file for everyone (without windows, .NET, etc) to try...
For me the program works good. The scrolling feature will help a lot of us, who can't easily find the directional buttons...
I HAVE POSTED A WARNING JUST 2 POSTS ABOVE YOURS. IF ANYONE CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS PM ME AND I'LL EXPLAIN. DO NOT POST THE CAB FILES HERE, HANDANGO DOESNT NEED XDA TO ACT LIKE MIRRORS. NEXT ATTACHMENT HERE WILL SEND THIS THREAD TO CLOSURE AND NON OBEYING MEMBER TO BANSVILLE
doena said:
Hey
I think the scrolling is not that best, or I m even doing wrong.
Maybe someone can test the scrolling, and tell his results
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Yes, the scrolling through G-Sensor is not the best experience in my opinion too. I tested this in TotalCommander and contacts list. It's too slow for me.
But the swipe scroll works quite fine. It's like a whole page down every swipe.
Yes. It will be considered as Warez to attach here since Handango needs registration to download this file which is mandatory as per their policy
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Understood. Thanks and sorry!
It works fine for me, but it doesn't work for games (I tested it with Gstunt).... Maybe future releases will solve the problem...
I tried it for the 2 minutes it was worth. The scrolling is really just one movement up or down at a time...not really kinetic scrolling. It was a little tricky to get it on and off also (waiting to feel the vibration of it comin to life). I may buy it though...for the price I'll play with it...it does keep your figners off of the screen.
I played with the demo this morning instead of doing work.
Not bad with the scrolling, although it does not recognize 100% of the finger swipes. I couldn't get tap and tilt to work at all. And the slide over the center key was glitchy.
What I really would prefer is an app that will scroll up and down just by me tapping, but not clicking, the screen. It seems Gscroll could add that feature pretty easily.
The demo cab is available at the programmer's website, so it is neither "warez" nor is there any need to post it here. The website is www.mobilesrc.com.
Similar issues for me...
For the money, it's a reasonable piece of software, but useablility... it's not that good in my opinion. As mentioned above, it's far too slow. One 'swipe' moves one item in the list. It needs to be kinetic like a finger swipe on the screen. And it's not that responsive to touch. Sometimes it'll respond OK, other times it ignores my touch on the pad.
Great idea... needs a little more work
^is this guy for real, or what?
didn't he see the 2 posts from the mod in this thread?
well, look like the thread will be closing soon.

first letter always auto-cap?!

i know it's EXTREMELY minor, but is it all at possible to turn off the auto-cap of the first letter? i don't ALWAYS need it and it can be quite annoying. TIA!
Try this: Settings/All settings/Personal/Input/Options and there you go !
florio1960 said:
Try this: Settings/All settings/Personal/Input/Options and there you go !
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Dont fix the problem. I have the same issue on my HD2... no matter what the first letter gets capped!
florio1960 said:
Try this: Settings/All settings/Personal/Input/Options and there you go !
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i don't even see an 'all settings' option, though i'm assuming it'd be because i'm on the US tmobile hd2/different rom perhaps? either way, this is super annoying. does ANYONE have a fix?
lol, sorry but I think it's kinda funny how people are hating on the HD2. I'm posting this from my HD2 and i love it! the all settings button shows up under the menu in the settings. hope that helps
hating? i don't see anyone hating on the hd2 in this thread. a year ago, in fact, i owned the htc touch hd1 as well. i'm definitely a fan of the 'hd' series, i just like to customize my phones to my liking. and yes, unchecking the "capitalize first letter" in the input area didn't fix it for me either.
quite a sad nuisance you're having.
riiiiiiiiiight. thanks for the bump.
@ce_rob
I just got my HD2 a couple of days ago and found this site yesterday, and I've just read alot of threads that were complaining about the HD2. Sorry if I thought you were hating. Actually, I see your problem and I second the motion. I guess I really never noticed it, but yeah, outside of the sms and email (probably office too), the first letter won't be capitalized, even if the box is checked. Hmmmmmm....
joe_coolish said:
@ce_rob
I just got my HD2 a couple of days ago and found this site yesterday, and I've just read alot of threads that were complaining about the HD2. Sorry if I thought you were hating. Actually, I see your problem and I second the motion. I guess I really never noticed it, but yeah, outside of the sms and email (probably office too), the first letter won't be capitalized, even if the box is checked. Hmmmmmm....
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oh i agree, i've seen quite a few people complain. they're always welcome to return the device and purchase something else...sadly, they'd rather whine about it first.
and yes! it can be annoying when unnecessary! i hope someone comes up with a fix for this, as small and insignificant as it may be..
You are not searching deep enough!
On Sense move all the way to the right -> Settings Tab
Click Menu -> More
Click Personal
Click Input
DONT click the Options field but the Options Tab on the bottom of the settings page.
Uncheck Capital letters
This MUST fix the problem - at least it fixes the problem in the default keyboard!
dameon12 said:
You are not searching deep enough!
On Sense move all the way to the right -> Settings Tab
Click Menu -> More
Click Personal
Click Input
DONT click the Options field but the Options Tab on the bottom of the settings page.
Uncheck Capital letters
This MUST fix the problem - at least it fixes the problem in the default keyboard!
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Nope, it doesnt.
VeEuzUKY said:
Nope, it doesnt.
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doesn't fix the problem here either.
Just wondering ...
Why on earth would anyone want to disable the auto-cap for the first word in a sentence?
The first word of a sentance has been capitalized since the dawn of the Latin alphabet (includes English).
Why would you want to turn it off?
(shaking head)
PeterHTC said:
Why on earth would anyone want to disable the auto-cap for the first word in a sentence?
The first word of a sentance has been capitalized since the dawn of the Latin alphabet (includes English).
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though it's impossible to understand why people like you feel the need to give your input when completely unnecessary, i'm sure it's happened since the "dawn of the Latin alphabet," as you so cleverly put it. thanks for the bump, i guess it wasn't a complete waste of time.
PeterHTC said:
Why on earth would anyone want to disable the auto-cap for the first word in a sentence?
The first word of a sentance has been capitalized since the dawn of the Latin alphabet (includes English).
Why would you want to turn it off?
(shaking head)
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Becuase eg. in Danish we put dates as "d. 27. marts" meaning the 27th of March. In this case I would like it not to start "marts" with a capital letter since it is not a new sentence.
Jawb said:
Becuase eg. in Danish we put dates as "d. 27. marts" meaning the 27th of March. In this case I would like it not to start "marts" with a capital letter since it is not a new sentence.
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So in Danish you don't use capital letters for proper nouns? Well I never knew that.
Anyway, the suggested settings change DOES WORK. If it doesn't then you have a faulty device and should return it to the supplier. Ask them for the "non-capitalized" version.
I think there's plenty reasons why people don't want the first letter capitalized. I have found the need myself many times. Agree with you johncmolyneux, it should work when you have the settings done. Try a soft reset after making the changes Jawb. On my TyTN II I have the same setting and it works.
johncmolyneux said:
So in Danish you don't use capital letters for proper nouns? Well I never knew that.
Anyway, the suggested settings change DOES WORK. If it doesn't then you have a faulty device and should return it to the supplier. Ask them for the "non-capitalized" version.
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No we dont. Person and location names we do but not names of e.g. months, days and languages.
[email protected] said:
I think there's plenty reasons why people don't want the first letter capitalized. I have found the need myself many times. Agree with you johncmolyneux, it should work when you have the settings done. Try a soft reset after making the changes Jawb. On my TyTN II I have the same setting and it works.
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I actually didn't comment on if it worked or not. But I have tried it and even a soft start won't make it work. At least not in Sense.
Jawb said:
Becuase eg. in Danish we put dates as "d. 27. marts" meaning the 27th of March. In this case I would like it not to start "marts" with a capital letter since it is not a new sentence.
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Well, I had never thought of that.
I WAS WRONG, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR MY EARLIER COMMENT.
I'm curious, even though there is no space between the period (.) and the word marts, does the HD2 still capitalize marts? I thought, in order for the HD2 to "think" that a new sentence has begun, there would have to be a space after the period. Is this not the case?
I'm going to try with my phone.
Be back shortly ...
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I'm back. I did the test and my HD2 DOES NOT capitalize the word "marts" in the example 27.marts, and I have it set to capitalize the first letter of new sentences. In fact, here's what I wrote:
This is a test. However, if we type 27.marts, will it capitalize marts?
No, it didn't!
But, when I wrote the following:
This is a test. However, if we type 27. marts, will it capitalize marts?
Yes, it did!
So, what I wrote originally still applies. I can't see a reason why you'd want to turn off this feature. If someone can give me an example, I will bow down and apologize again.
Peter

How to get the real ENGADGET on Opera 10 (solution)

Hi guys I was very frustrated every time I want to read Engadget on the new opera mobile 10 without using Turbo mode. I spend lot of time looking for a solution trying to spoof agent and others but no way to get the real version...instead everytime I get a text only version for wap devices.
Finally I found the solution:
In opera10 goto to the web page "OPERA:CONFIG"
goto NETWORK and scroll down for "HTTP Accept"
there put this text:
text/html, application/xml;q=0.9, application/xhtml+xml, image/png, image/jpeg, image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, */*;q=0.1, application/youtube-client, application/x-obml2d, multipart/mixed
PS:This solution can be a workarround to others sites with the same problem too.
I hope this will be usefull to someone
it's a pain in the ass typing it all, but it's worth it thanx for the tip. now if there would be a fix for the text flow/break
My biggest issue is the crap zoom (needs at least a zoombar if pinch to zoom isn't an option) and camera not working with Opera running in the background.
Also, for engadget (I'm on there all the time), you can just scroll down and hit view desktop/full version. Also, you can add something like ?m=false (it's not that exactly, and I can't check it at the moment) and it will change the default mobile version to the full version.
However if your tweak works for all sites, then hats of to you! And I need to get on that later tonight.
You dont need to type it!
connect your HD2 to activesync, and go to the folder where you installed opera 10, got to the folder profile and then edit the file "Opera.ini" (in my case it is \Storage Card\program files\Opera Mobile 10\profile\opera.ini)
There, under [Network] add the text like this:
[Network]
HTTP Accept=text/html, application/xml;q=0.9, application/xhtml+xml, image/png, image/jpeg, image/gif, image/x-bitmap, */*;q=0.1, application/youtube-client, multipart/mixed
Save the file to the HD2 and that is
(I first do this the hard way...typing all in the HD2 grrr)
Svegetto said:
My biggest issue is the crap zoom (needs at least a zoombar if pinch to zoom isn't an option) and camera not working with Opera running in the background.
Also, for engadget (I'm on there all the time), you can just scroll down and hit view desktop/full version. Also, you can add something like ?m=false (it's not that exactly, and I can't check it at the moment) and it will change the default mobile version to the full version.
However if your tweak works for all sites, then hats of to you! And I need to get on that later tonight.
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That's true but only for the first page cause a bug on engadget dont remember the option and when you go to the "older post" its all text again.
shu8i said:
it's a pain in the ass typing it all, but it's worth it thanx for the tip. now if there would be a fix for the text flow/break
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Can you gimme a page with the text flow/break problem? I will try to find a solution to that too. (still none of the pages I usually go show this bug)
Thanks Shagratt.
BTW, to everyone worried about entering all that text, most of it is already there as the default, all you have to do is add the last part listed below to the end and save.
, application/x-obml2d, multipart/mixed
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xeebot said:
Thanks Shagratt.
BTW, to everyone worried about entering all that text, most of it is already there as the default, all you have to do is add the last part listed below to the end and save.
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Not exactly, I think the most important one is removing the wap part (engadget must use this to detect mobile devices), but in my opera mobile 10 there was only a empty space, so I have to write all.
shagratt said:
Can you gimme a page with the text flow/break problem? I will try to find a solution to that too. (still none of the pages I usually go show this bug)
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it's present on almost every page.

Remote Desktop...(mouse?)

This isn't asking for a "how-to" on setting up RDM... I was able to figure that out on my own.. but as i play around with this function.. i can't help but feel that it would be SO MUCH better if instead of "highlighting" things within the screen.. instead it allowed me to navigate as if it was on opera..
is there a tweak? or perhaps a mouse application that would enable something like that?? because when i am going through na webpage on RDM habit makes me slide down on the screen if i want to navigate down.. but instead it simply highlights the paragraph that i'm looking at.. anyone else dealing with this?? or perhaps anyone can enlighten me on how to further make the remote desktop mobile function a little more pleasing then it already is??
You can't do what you're asking.
Remember that it is duplicating your actions on your PC, so if you click a webpage with your mouse and slide up or down then it will highlight text, as you described. If, however, you had a browser on your PC that did slide up and down when you drag the mouse then it would do the same in RDP.
So it's not the fault of remote desktop here - it's doing exactly what it should. You need a browser that works how you want on your PC instead.
johncmolyneux said:
You can't do what you're asking.
Remember that it is duplicating your actions on your PC, so if you click a webpage with your mouse and slide up or down then it will highlight text, as you described. If, however, you had a browser on your PC that did slide up and down when you drag the mouse then it would do the same in RDP.
So it's not the fault of remote desktop here - it's doing exactly what it should. You need a browser that works how you want on your PC instead.
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whoa..... calm yourself...
Eh? I think you've read something that wasn't there!
I was just answering and explaining. Just read it again, but in a happy voice
ProjektFuze said:
is there a tweak? or perhaps a mouse application that would enable something like that?? because when i am going through na webpage on RDM habit makes me slide down on the screen if i want to navigate down.. but instead it simply highlights the paragraph that i'm looking at.. anyone else dealing with this?? or perhaps anyone can enlighten me on how to further make the remote desktop mobile function a little more pleasing then it already is??
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do you mean something like that ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=783973
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Eh? I think you've read something that wasn't there!
I was just answering and explaining. Just read it again, but in a happy voice
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lol @ "in a happy voice"
that gave me a chuckle! yeah i think there was some perception of unintended offense, which really isn't there!

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