With Linpack I see people getting to 848mhz and even 1ghz.
I lose stability at 787mhz and I'm ok at 768. I know that different chips vary... but 1ghz difference?
Is there a way to overvolt on the Eris I don't know of?
The eris OC at 1ghz....thats a lie and some one is pulling your leg lol. The eris is not built handle that and if it did reach 1ghz the motherboard would burn up.
Yeah but 848mhz isn't so farfetched. I can do 787 for a while without any freezes. The freezes do happen though.
If you overvolt it shouldn't be impossible to get up to 848mhz.
As for the 1ghz + entries on linpack's site I think it must be another phone running Eris ROM's/ basebands.
Hungry Man said:
With Linpack I see people getting to 848mhz and even 1ghz.
I lose stability at 787mhz and I'm ok at 768. I know that different chips vary... but 1ghz difference?
Is there a way to overvolt on the Eris I don't know of?
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I can do 806 all day with Aloysius but my buddy with the same exact setup (i setup it up, so I nkow its exactly the same) can only get stable at 768.
I have not seen anyone with proof or that is respectable, show that they can keep their phone over 806.
"Begin envy now "
I do lol
So there are NO overvolt kernels/ methods?
I can run 806 stable with evil Eris 3, most of the other roms crash when I clock them at 806.
Lucky lol my processor seems to be stuck at 768. 787 doesn't last too long and it's not worth the random FC'ing. I'm sure it would be stable with more voltage and heat hasn't been an issue for me at all at 768 even with Pandora/ Zenonia running for quite a while I haven't gotten even lose 50C.
The question is why would one want to OC that high. I see absolutely no difference in performance at 710 vs anything higher. Probably even lower than that. I just don't see why you would want to run any higher and eat up your battery as well as tax the processor and board more when there isnt a noticeable difference other than linpack scores. Just my opinion but I think all new to OC'ing should be aware that faster isnt always better.
I know that lol I mean... a lot of people who overclock computers don't do it for a performance boost, they do it because they want to see if they can. They won't get better gaming performance they just get a slightly better benchmark.
I want to do it just to do it.
Ok rock on speed demon On that note, I wonder if it could be clocked to the max in a freezer room. If the low temp would help or if it is just hardware limited.
The MAIN problem with overclocking with voltage modification would be heat/ ****ty PSU. I'm sure the Eris battery can get up pretty high, it's a matter of staying cool. I would like to see how high I can get with cooling but I don't even know if overvolting exists for the Eris lol
Dont know about over but I know you can undervolt on it.
If there's undervolting there should be overvolting... someone has to know lol I've tried searching XDA and google but I can't find anything specific.
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The question is why would one want to OC that high. I see absolutely no difference in performance at 710 vs anything higher. Probably even lower than that. I just don't see why you would want to run any higher and eat up your battery as well as tax the processor and board more when there isnt a noticeable difference other than linpack scores. Just my opinion but I think all new to OC'ing should be aware that faster isnt always better.
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I tested 710, 768 and 806. I didnt just test with linpack either. I just used apps I normally would run, running for a few days and what not and noticed a difference from 710 to 768 but not really a noticeable diff from 768 to 806. I still keep it at 806 for reasons that my battery life is better. Dont ask me how or why but it just is. I have mine set at 806/480 and for sleep, 480/240. Now most of the day my phone is just in my desk drawer so that could be the reason but i still go a full day with heavy use at the end of the day (bt, wifi, internet radio, run keeper) and still have about 30%+ left when I go to sleep at 10
I have never had a problem with battery lol since overclocking my phone I've only increased battery life. Significantly so.
There has got to be some sweet spot there for OC'ing that gives best perform with least batt consumption. Just wish I knew what it was.
People are getting high because all processors aren't the same. So some can handle, some can't. As for the 1ghz it's a big lie. According to several people including jcase linpack scores can be easily edited and faked. I wouldn't believe anything on linpack that's outrageous.
I sorta figured they wre faking somehow. And I know some processors can handle higher speeds, that's the basis of overclocking. I want to know if I can overvolt my processor.
Can't help you there. Maybe go ask in the IRC? I'm curious if you can as well.
I can hit 787 and run stable... linkpack scores around 5.3-5.4. Oddly enough, my fone refuses to run at 768. I actually have to use a txt file for setcpu to remove 768 from the equation with profiles and the setcpu "trick" my battery life is GREAT. Much better than "stock" even.
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Hey,
So I'm on the fence about perma rooting and over clocking my G2, but i have a few questions:
1) Will my battery life suffer greatly due to over clocking say to 1Ghz or 1.4Ghz?
2) Are there any real world noticeable real world performance gains besides benchmark scores?
3) Will perma-Rooting it decrease performance? (Back when i had the mytouch 3g, the phone never felt as snappy after i rooted and installed custom roms, as compared to stock).
Thanks
1) battery life is the same if not better when overclocked with setcpu in ondemand mode at 245/1100mhz
2) there is a definite performance increase
3) custom roms can decrease performance depending on the rom and ui (sense is a bit heavy). Just simply rooting will not decrease performance. Also, CM6.1 is super snappy, especially using Launcher42
DO IT!
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thedarkpassenger said:
1) battery life is the same if not better when overclocked with setcpu in ondemand mode at 245/1100mhz
2) there is a definite performance increase
3) custom roms can decrease performance depending on the rom and ui (sense is a bit heavy). Just simply rooting will not decrease performance. Also, CM6.1 is super snappy, especially using Launcher42
DO IT!
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Launcher42? that's a heck lot of upgrade from Launcher2 I'd like to check it out
but he's right overclocking is not going to eat up your battery much. Heavy graphic ROMs do however suck up battery and performance. I personally like to stick to rooted stock roms and tune up here and there to fit my personal needs.
You should however read carefully and make sure to understand every steps you're doing if you want to root your phone.
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Launcher42? that's a heck lot of upgrade from Launcher2 I'd like to check it out
but he's right overclocking is not going to eat up your battery much. Heavy graphic ROMs do however suck up battery and performance. I personally like to stick to rooted stock roms and tune up here and there to fit my personal needs.
You should however read carefully and make sure to understand every steps you're doing if you want to root your phone.
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thedarkpassenger said:
1) battery life is the same if not better when overclocked with setcpu in ondemand mode at 245/1100mhz
2) there is a definite performance increase
3) custom roms can decrease performance depending on the rom and ui (sense is a bit heavy). Just simply rooting will not decrease performance. Also, CM6.1 is super snappy, especially using Launcher42
DO IT!
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Alright I'm going to give it a shot later tonight probably, i forgot about the SETCPU profiles where you can have the phone under clocked while the screen is off. That should definitely give me better battery life. Ill be back to post results
kcm117 said:
Alright I'm going to give it a shot later tonight probably, i forgot about the SETCPU profiles where you can have the phone under clocked while the screen is off. That should definitely give me better battery life. Ill be back to post results
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Good luck and I'm sure you will enjoy your G2.
Oh, and don't forget to show it off to your friends. Let them see how this thing "Fly"
I oc to 1.4+ with setcpu and a few profiles set up i get much better bat life then stock. Im also running a sense rom which feels sluggish until you oc. At 1.4 it runs smooth as can be with live wallpapers plus all the pretty sense animations. The only problem i have is i hate the sense dialer and msg system also i want to change the "personalise" tab....do people really change theyre settings everyday that they need a dedicated button for it? Anyway i digress
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Excuse me, since when does increasing the clockspeed of your CPU INCREASE battery life?!
convolution said:
Excuse me, since when does increasing the clockspeed of your CPU INCREASE battery life?!
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No, that's not entirely true BUT with SetCPU you can profile it with different mode which can benefit the battery life.
kcm117 said:
Hey,
So I'm on the fence about perma rooting and over clocking my G2, but i have a few questions:
1) Will my battery life suffer greatly due to over clocking say to 1Ghz or 1.4Ghz?
2) Are there any real world noticeable real world performance gains besides benchmark scores?
3) Will perma-Rooting it decrease performance? (Back when i had the mytouch 3g, the phone never felt as snappy after i rooted and installed custom roms, as compared to stock).
Thanks
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I don't notice any difference in battery and I have the 1.9ghz kernel. I normally keep it at 1ghz though. I enjoy it overclocked. My games run incredibly smooth, when navigating my phone it literally almost feels like it knows what i'm pressing a split second before i do and benchmarks rape the face off anyone else I know with an android phone. It's just sooo smooth. It really boils down to being the kind of person who likes to hold a powerhouse of a phone in the palm of their hand. (Literally) with even just the 1.4ghz OC you'll never have to ask yourself "can my phone run this without being sluggish?" because the answer is yes, it can probably even run two or three instances of whatever made you question yourself in the first place without being sluggish. Any if you're worried about custom roms from the past, just remember how outdated your old android is compared to this one. No offense because I can relate, I used to have a G1 that is now a hand-me-down to my brother and whenever he asks me to mod something on it, I'm just amazed at how slow it is and really don't know how I tolerated it for the last 2 years. I mean I'd score a 150 quadrant on the G1 (on a good day) but with my full OC on, the G2 scores 3000~3100. That's roughly 20 times faster...
Bottom line is that you won't need to worry about "will this make my device sluggish?" for quite some time.
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Alright guys i got the phone perma rooted now, but i havent installed an OC kernel yet, two questions.
-Which kernal should i install if i want 1.4Ghz? there seems to be two threads with 1.4ghz kernels
-Do i need to install Bacon Bits for the kernel?
kcm117 said:
Alright guys i got the phone perma rooted now, but i havent installed an OC kernel yet, two questions.
-Which kernal should i install if i want 1.4Ghz? there seems to be two threads with 1.4ghz kernels
-Do i need to install Bacon Bits for the kernel?
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just install cm6.1 and setCPU and you will be fine, then you can tweak it up to 1.42 if you like or whatever you want it at
Any heat related issues? Let's say I get into a zone and play some graphics intensive game 6 hours straight on USB power at 1.4Ghz? Wouldn't that put out more heat then the G2 was design to handle possibly shortening its life span?
convolution said:
Excuse me, since when does increasing the clockspeed of your CPU INCREASE battery life?!
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It doesn't. However, overclocking is misnomer. What we really mean is over and UNDER clocking. For example with SetCPU is can create a profile that greatly slows down my CPU when the screen is off. This saves the battery a lot, since my screen is nearly always off.
Also, I can create profiles that slow down the CPU as the battery lowers in order to offset the fact that I overclock the CPU when the battery is fuller.
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Wouldn't that put out more heat then the G2 was design to handle possibly shortening its life span?
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Probably could shorten the life span. I keep phones for a year or two, though, and shortened life span for me isn't an issue. The phone becomes outdated before the CPU gives up.
cparekh said:
It doesn't. However, overclocking is misnomer. What we really mean is over and UNDER clocking. For example with SetCPU is can create a profile that greatly slows down my CPU when the screen is off. This saves the battery a lot, since my screen is nearly always off.
Also, I can create profiles that slow down the CPU as the battery lowers in order to offset the fact that I overclock the CPU when the battery is fuller.
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^This.
I've gone a full 10 hours with my battery still reporting 100%.
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my default sense rom does not feel sluggish at all.
this oc is not really required from my point of view. and it also does not increase battery. the thing what increased is the underclocking when screen is off.
and this you can do even without overclocking. and THEN it brings even more gain.
an example of "real world" for me is how well my g2 plays PSX games on the emulator. I have it overclocked at 1.5 on setcpu and it runs chrono cross pretty much flawlessly with no noticeable slow down.
i use setcpu for underclocking since i don't do enough just yet to overclock, i haven't noticed any battery increase just yet and i've been using it for a few days now. i almost questioned my self if i was losing battery life due to my system mhz always fluctuating? is this a possibility? i just added a profile for screen off 245/245 but i still had to choose on demand? what should i put there. thanks for ur help everyone
I installed the bacon bits 1.4ghz kernel and setup some setcpu profiles.....battery life is much better now.
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screen off profile doesn't work with G2
noone has any proof it does change anything.
with or without widget running
How far have people got with over clocking their Visions?
Mines over clocked at 1GHz, i don't think id be increasing it any time soon think it would ruin my battery life
How far have all you all got to? Stable of course
That I know, we're at 1.8ghz so far. I keep mine at 806mhz all day since I barely use it throughout the day. Once I get home, I clock it up to 1.5ghz when I'm using it.
I've ran it once at 1.8ghz running a couple of benchmarks (linpack, neocore, quadrant)
It did very well, but, ran very hot (could be due to the fact I had it connected to the charger at the same time)
Either case, how much you get out of your battery depends on how you use it, how you set up your cpu profiles (dependant on which you use. I.e. cpu tuner, setcpu), and what frequency you're constantly letting your phone run on.
I run mine at 1.5ghz, see no need to push it further. Im getting all the performance I need at 1.5ghz. I use setcpu profiles, one to severely underclock when it reaches a certain temp and a charging profile that runs at stock clock to reduce heat when charging.
1.3ghz. Not like i feel it however. But 1.4ghz one they have posted wasnt 100% stable for me.
Can over clocking the phone can burn or cause damage to the hardware except excess battery usage and does overclock an 1ghz processor to 1.5 will really give a boost or its just a gimmick
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Excessive overclocking really did damage your hardware, depends on the quality.. Overclocking from 1.0ghz to 1.5ghz really give a performance boost, in benchmarking.. In real life, only noticeable in process hungry apps, such as 3d games.. Gimmick? Well, if its a gimmick, it won't give any sudden resets or lock ups.. The processor have a safety switch if the temperature increase because of oc'ing.. If it's to hardcore, for example, 1.0Ghz to 1.8Ghz or even 2.0Ghz, for sure you processor will overheat and lock ups.
Well, mine running at 1.5Ghz, no lock ups or whatever..
SAPPH1RE said:
Excessive overclocking really did damage your hardware, depends on the quality.. Overclocking from 1.0ghz to 1.5ghz really give a performance boost, in benchmarking.. In real life, only noticeable in process hungry apps, such as 3d games.. Gimmick? Well, if its a gimmick, it won't give any sudden resets or lock ups.. The processor have a safety switch if the temperature increase because of oc'ing.. If it's to hardcore, for example, 1.0Ghz to 1.8Ghz or even 2.0Ghz, for sure you processor will overheat and lock ups.
Well, mine running at 1.5Ghz, no lock ups or whatever..
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My phone is running quite happily on 1.84Ghz.No lock ups or overheating.
ttav said:
My phone is running quite happily on 1.84Ghz.No lock ups or overheating.
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Good for you though.. Mine can only be stable at 1.7Ghz.. At 1.8Ghz, only about couple of mins gaming, and then hang till forever..
niks_5in said:
Can over clocking the phone can burn or cause damage to the hardware except excess battery usage and does overclock an 1ghz processor to 1.5 will really give a boost or its just a gimmick
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You will barely notice the difference in most circumstances. Even if your phone runs fine at 1.5 or 1.8 ghz it will probably reduce the life of the chip over a prolonged period.
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I think it will give minor boost at the cost of burning your hardware
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it will help in cpu intensive tasks, that which require lots of calculations, math stuff, 3d drawing done via cpu, faster cpu, better...
in other tasks, don't even bother, there are lots of other things far slower then cpu.
downside, heating, battery drain, increased rate of damage..!
Im using SetCPU for saving battery life. Set the cpu for 384 while screen is off. Noticed quite a difference.
OP, your asking if a overclocked cpu will give a better performance or if it's a gimmick? Really??
Of course it will give you better performance, that goes without saying but the question is, are you willing to sacrifice battery life? The chip will most probably last for years and years if overclocked but 1 thing that kills chips is heat and volts.
I only overclock when I need to and when I'm done I go back to how it was, usually.
My phone is fast enough at 1GHz, dont need overclocking, all games and apps goes fine fine
Most OC kernals are also undervolted anyway so I wouldn't worry about it
to be honest, i use mine with "underclocked" at 800mhz, trying to get at least a half-hour of battery life... i don't see the point in overclock a 1ghz processor, imo, even with a speed gain, the bad side effects easily override the good ones...
i truly believe that overclock my old milestone was the main cause of the problem that happens after...
thiagodark said:
to be honest, i use mine with "underclocked" at 800mhz, trying to get at least a half-hour of battery life... i don't see the point in overclock a 1ghz processor, imo, even with a speed gain, the bad side effects easily override the good ones...
i truly believe that overclock my old milestone was the main cause of the problem that happens after...
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I'd look at other reasons for your battery life, if it's really that bad.
I'm running at just a touch above 1GHz with no side affects what so ever and get 24+hrs with heavy use, 30+hrs with moderate use and 40+hrs with light use, and that's never turning wifi / 3G off unless I'm in bed when I switch to 2G.
At 1GHz the OCUV kernal I have installed uses less voltage than stock kernal at stock speeds so in theory it's actually safer.
It's not that bad, but it's not so great as yours too. I got about 16hrs with 'hard' use, what is enought most time, but sometimes i get in home with the blinking orange led. Quite annoying...
I try my best to improve the battery life, but i was becoming a battery freak, or something like that, always checking currentwidget...
I get 3 or 4ma at stand by, what is considered normal, i guess... and always use full brightness, hate to use anything bellow...
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thiagodark said:
It's not that bad, but it's not so great as yours too. I got about 16hrs with 'hard' use, what is enought most time, but sometimes i get in home with the blinking orange led. Quite annoying...
I try my best to improve the battery life, but i was becoming a battery freak, or something like that, always checking currentwidget...
I get 3 or 4ma at stand by, what is considered normal, i guess... and always use full brightness, hate to use anything bellow...
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Full brightness is your problem. I bet it uses like 70% of the current while you use your phone.
going up to 1.8GHz still running stable, thats crazy man!
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Full brightness is your problem. I bet it uses like 70% of the current while you use your phone.
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Yep, you are correct, it's using about 75% of the battery...
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Any performance boost on 1.8 ghz
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i want to know if its safe to overclock my samsung vibrant to 1200 mhz. will doing that shorten the life of my phone in any way.
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i want to know if its safe to overclock my samsung vibrant to 1200 mhz. will doing that shorten the life of my phone in any way.
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It will definitely shorten the life of the battery. As for the phone itself I can't really say. I used to use my vibrant @ 1200mhz daily while running bionix 1.3.1. I never really noticed any wear and tear from the overclocking. If your phone runs warm while overclocking you should really consider running the stock voltages. Your phone may overheat and fry your cpu gpu with the high temperatures. So be careful when overclocking.
Meh i dont completely agree...
It will only shorter the life of your battery because the processor will draw about 20% more power which is very small compared to the like 20x more power the lcd takes up.. i dont think youll feel the difference.
The heating up i disagree with too since ive seen processors reach boiling point of water and continue to work.. thats not to say they all will but ive oced my phone to 1.6ghz to benchmark for several minutes and it never got above 41*... the battery heats up alot more when its charging than the processor does most of the time so i wouldnt worry tooo much about that.
Now as to whether the phones llife will lower... yes probably.. youre putting more stress on the processor than if you dont oc.. honestly tho, processors dont die very often so i oc all day as my daily runner, usually to 1.4ghz if my kernel will do it..
Up to you and honestly all of this is my opinion based on my available info etc.. hope this helps
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I have mine Oc to 1.5 and no issues. 1.5 is the Max I would go.
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Everything I have read says 1200 is completely safe. I run mine at 1460 with no issues. It obviously draws more battery but using Voltage control app you can adjust the level of battery.
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You would be fine with 1.2Ghz, but look into a kernel that supports some slick CPU scalers (smartass is a good, easy choice). You can set that (1.2Ghz) as a max clock and you can let the scaler determine how it gets there (if need be). Running only 2 clocks (OC and deep sleep) seems a bit overkill to me, but to each their own.
Like everyone else said, you ought to be perfectly fine with that value.
The highest I would go is 1500 though
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You would be fine with 1.2Ghz, but look into a kernel that supports some slick CPU scalers (smartass is a good, easy choice). You can set that (1.2Ghz) as a max clock and you can let the scaler determine how it gets there (if need be). Running only 2 clocks (OC and deep sleep) seems a bit overkill to me, but to each their own.
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Lol, running an overclock on a phone seems a bit overkill to me...
Think about this.. How much copper is strapped up to your phones cpu?
Would you overclock your desktop on a stock cooler?
I feel sorry for the saps who buy phones second hand(especially after reading this thread). (hey wait a minute, that's me too.. Lol)
I never overclock anything.
Ever.
(learned my lesson with an amd Duron 733 back in the day)
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As we can see in many forums, people like to overclock their phone to increase It's performance although overclock can increase battery live and may broke their phone. I think the increased performance can only be felt through benchmark software. The effect on the apps is almost negligible specially on high end phone (like our Note). Why do you overclock your phone and use overclock on daily usage (I understand if the reason of overclocking phone is for satisfaction) ?
Never saw the slightest reason to overclock my phone.
Emulators and because I cannot resist getting extra performance. My captivate was a beast OCed.
Some people don't get it others do...like everything in life. Some don't get how we can live with a phone this big but we do...
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On GB (LC2) I overclocked to 1.6gHz and it made everything run smoother (screen transitions, opening and closing apps etc.
On ICS I haven't felt the need to OC. It runs super smooth and fast as it is.
But maybe I'll get bored some time in the future and do it just for something to do...
I'm on stock GB LC1 CF rooted and I OC to 1.55.
Differences when I open apps. They open faster. And not that huge battery life drain because cpu stays at 1.55 a little time and for me the faster app opening matters
*only 2% at 1.55 (not even 1h from 40) - with CpuSpy
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Its not bout whether its "important" or not... Its more like, If you can...then why not!? I did overclock my sgnote till 1.6ghz at 1.7 it would reboot.
Its like gettin more for less
Just as Overclock with your desktop, some take a step further by changing heatsink, better ventilation, water cooling, etc.
Exactly, its just free power and if you are not dumb, you are not going to kill anything. This is not the dark ages of overclocking and those fears people seem to still carry from those times.
Take for example on GB running 1.6Ghz Nenamark2 scores me about 34fps or so..Damn close to my record with the Captivate which is 33.5! Then I ran 400Mhz on the GPU and boom..53fps...that is some kick ass gains there. While I will probably run 300Mhz mostly, if I find a game that needs the extra performance, I know I have it there so why not use it.
This is not the dark ages of overclocking and those fears people seem to still carry from those times.
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Very true.
On my desktop I have an Intel i5 2500k (original 3300 MHz) OC to 4500 for daily use and when needed 5 GHz.
From 1 year and a half the CPU runs like this and never had any stability issue. And my PC kinda stays on A LOT.
So yes, we don't live in the dark ages of overclocking. Why people STILL HAVE FEAR OF OC!?
These days OC is very easy. Most of the times you can't broke a device / component from OC, because the "drivers" of some microcontrollers from your motherboard won't let you (a lot of protection these days )
Indeed. Plus if you are too afraid then dont push higher voltage, just OC with stock voltage as much as your CPU can do.