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does your universal hang

does your universal hang, grind to a halt or become unresponsive when you leave the device for long periods of inactivity?
If anyone has any suggestions other than just about every hack currently known please post swiftly !

i'm sorry to say you're not alone, but i'm happy 'im not the only one...i tought i was goiing crazy
see my thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32688

The only issue I have found is that the backlight does not come on at the level it was at prior to being left ..
Its often on the absolute lowest setting and stays there.
I suspect this is a design feature/flaw to prevent the battery running down in your pocket ...
But it is very annoying.
Other than that, in corporate mode, with all the chuff pruned out its stable, quite smooth and fairly snappy all said ..
*touch wood

In my case the Jasjar is quite stable. But one thing that is driving me crazy is that it occassionally hangs when I receive a new SMS. This is not all the time. About 90% of my text messages are received correctly but for the remaining 10% it hangs. The worst part is that when it hangs on a new SMS even that SMS is lost so I have no clue if I even did receive a SMS. Even worse since I would not know that the device has frozen and so if during this period somebody tries to contact me on the phone I will remain unaccessible. This makes the whole thing so unrelible and is spoiling all the fun.
Regards

SMRZ i feel ya on this
My device is very stable and works swiftly with the numerous tweaks ive done but all it takes is one silly crash over an sms or a hung pda when trying to bring it out of standby and all the goodness and riches that this device brings just get washed away.
I dont think we are asking for much, why dont things like this happen with any other phones like nokia or sony's or even a £25.99 phone.
Why dont the accepatnce testing people in these companies do their jobs propoerly and test the phone to the hills beofre they let it leave the labs.
I've always been at the forefront of cutting technology and there's a heavy price to pay for this. Companies shoould not release anything until it is 100% tested.
I would rather wait another 3 months for something to have all the bugs ironed out then released into the marketplace than to have a device thats so new that it doesnt even work properly
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@cpascal
I'm in total agreement with you. I look at the stability of my wife's SE K750 and cry sometimes. My Nokia 9500 (Commi) is also very stable but obviously does not have 3G.
I found the XDA Exec has been more stable than my now sold-off JJ. But I am using a Data only SIM so perhaps this is why.

Ditching the X1, getting a new phone

Well after 3 weeks of use I have had it with my X1. It is the slowest phone I have ever come across.
Here are the problems im getting and I have just had enough of them
Phone can freeze when switching between landscape & portrait. Can take up to 2 minutes to figure out what its doing, sometimes its a hard reset
Fidilly interface, I use the SPB panel because of this which is great but everything else is just useless. Tried setting an alarm by rotating the hands? Its so fidily
I get a new message while im on my inbox and sometimes the message takes up to 2 minutes to load. Last night I was waiting 1minutes 43seconds for the message to open (yes I timed it) It just had that piechart icon rotating
Sometimes I cant open the messaging section. I click messaging and nothing happens. I can try to open it as many times as I want but nothing happens. I have to remove the battery..
By screen went green once, everything was green so I had to remove the battery to sort the problem
Doesnt always sync with my PC, no idea why
Cant remove hotmail contacts or sort the contact list because it just adds all my email contacts when I go online
Opera & IE are clunky and full of bugs. IE is slow as hell and cant open some websites. Opera keeps opening the virtual keyboard and changing between fullscreen and menu mode
Panels take a lifetime to load and freeze when switching between view modes
The crappy external speaker, who wants to hear a song full of white noise when you phone rings?
Battery icon - sometimes I have one, sometimes I dont
My signal on my phone seems poor compared to my old LG Viewty. Where I had a decent 3g signal I now get a poor standard signal, if a signal at all
Phone seems to have gotten slower and slower since I first started it up
There are a lot of things I do really like about the X1 but most of these are hardware such as the keyboard, the screen resolution, build quality, wifi, gps etc
I am seriously considering either swapping my phone via o2 or selling it and buying a new phone. I dont understand why interfaces and phones cant be as fluent as the iphone/ipod.
It does a lot of stuff yet the interface is as fast as hell. I am not a fan of the iphone itself due to its rubbish hardware specs but you can't knock the interface. Also I just got an ipod touch so there isn't much point in me having an iphone.
Personally i think the problem lies with WinMo as its very bloated and slow compared to proprietry operating systems or Android/iPhone.
Can anyone recommend me a good phone to get, I was looking at the Samsung Omnia but it doesnt have Wifi or GPS so its a no go really

Dude you must have a faulty phone, I've had mine for a couple of weeks now and haven't had most of the problems you have raised. However it was laggy and slow when I first got it and I still don't think the panels work fast enough to be really usable but once I changed the ROM it was MUCH better, more responsive, Opera actually makes browsing online a good experience!

ukguy said:
Dude you must have a faulty phone, I've had mine for a couple of weeks now and haven't had most of the problems you have raised. However it was laggy and slow when I first got it and I still don't think the panels work fast enough to be really usable but once I changed the ROM it was MUCH better, more responsive, Opera actually makes browsing online a good experience!
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The only faulty thing about it is the firmware, and when I went down that road with my Viewty being buggy as hell I got into the biggest of arguements with my network provider.
They didn't get what I was saying, they keep offering me the same phone as a replacement etc etc and I was nearly thrown of the network as they just winded me up so much.
This phone had high expectations from me and I have to say, it failed miserably. I decided to go back to SE after my LG as they were some of the best phones I had. But this phone just doesnt compare and I personally think its WinMo thats letting it down

i never experience any of the problems you mentioned above. May be it is a faulty unit.

Either a faulty unit, or filled with network bloatware! In short... not a problem of Xperia. When switching landscape to portrait it takes a second for me usually... at most 2-3 seconds. Same goes for other stuff.
I wasn't impressed with my Xperia at the beginning either... but after applying a few tweaks here and there and installing applications and stuff, it is by far the best phone ever! (and i am using the original rom - no cooked rom)
Maybe you should try installing a cooked ROM?
Either way... good luck with whatever phone you do decide to go with. I can, however, say with 99.999% certainty that most problems that you are facing are either due to a faulty device/firmware or is due to bloatware or something...

I did have the exact problems here, also did 3 of my friends who baught the phone.
It is crashing alot and is slow. However I think I will wait till the first firmware update.
But even if they didn't fix these problems, I don't really have an alternative phone, no phone has the specs I want except experia. I mean ofcourse other than win mo, because if it is a win mo phone you are seeking then know that all the win mo phones have the exact same problems, maybe less because they have been around in the market for a longer time, but they still do crash.

celinelust said:
I did have the exact problems here, also did 3 of my friends who baught the phone.
It is crashing alot and is slow. However I think I will wait till the first firmware update.
But even if they didn't fix these problems, I don't really have an alternative phone, no phone has the specs I want except experia. I mean ofcourse other than win mo, because if it is a win mo phone you are seeking then know that all the win mo phones have the exact same problems, maybe less because they have been around in the market for a longer time, but they still do crash.
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That's kinda shocking to hear. Have you tried tweaks and stuff? Maybe hard-reset the phone to remove all bloatware....

Feel free to give the phone to me

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Feel free to give the phone to me
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Oh crap! I forgot to ask that...

this is strange, my xperia is the best winmo phone I've had. stable like a rock, fast, no lockups, nice batt life... everything works great (and would do better once they update the rom with a better one)

cursor said:
this is strange, my xperia is the best winmo phone I've had. stable like a rock, fast, no lockups, nice batt life... everything works great (and would do better once they update the rom with a better one)
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Same here...

Wth...
Im going to flash my phone and see if its any better.
Anybody got MSN and want to guide me through it?

Evostance said:
Wth...
Im going to flash my phone and see if its any better.
Anybody got MSN and want to guide me through it?
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Good luck with that. I hope you get it working perfectly! This is definitely a wonderful device and the fastest WinMo device.
I've never had the need to flash my set, so afraid don't know anything about it... otherwise would have offered to guide you through.

I have original rom and I think the phone is great! fast and solid!

101% something's wrong with YOUR phone only... althought i have my grumbles, but not so bad at all

Get O2 to reflash it, they will do it for free if you complain about lockups

Evostance said:
Wth...
Im going to flash my phone and see if its any better.
Anybody got MSN and want to guide me through it?
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It's easy, just install hard-spl and then choose from the xperia rom forum one that you like (my preference for now is Itje's HD v2.1).
Follow closely the instructions on the Hard-SPL and rom thread you choose and it will be a breeze.

I just flashed it to IT-Xperience 2.1 and the phone is a hell of a lot faster.

good for you . I am planning to buy Xperia so it will be nice to hear what problems still occur after the update

Evostance said:
I just flashed it to IT-Xperience 2.1 and the phone is a hell of a lot faster.
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What is "IT-Xperience 2.1"? Google has 0 hits.

WTF is up with this phone????

3g connection goes on vaca periodically
you have to tweak the ish out of it, ( and im still not happy)
had it since March 24th... US tmobile
still trying to get to where it should be
email sucks , especiallly if you have gmail
i find myself checking this forum more than my email.
its really starting to pis me off.
i had high hopes for this phone , its really not user freindly
i had an iphone for 3 years , and was looking for a good change ,
F it , this is the official complaint thread....post here
and oh yeah , everybody i know up here in Boston ,MA. with this phone is complaining!!!!!!!!
WTF htc tmobile

omil25 said:
3g connection goes on vaca periodically
you have to tweak the ish out of it, ( and im still not happy)
had it since March 24th... US tmobile
still trying to get to where it should be
email sucks , especiallly if you have gmail
i find myself checking this forum more than my email.
its really starting to pis me off.
i had high hopes for this phone , its really not user freindly
i had an iphone for 3 years , and was looking for a good change ,
F it , this is the official complaint thread....post here
and oh yeah , everybody i know up here in Boston ,MA. with this phone is complaining!!!!!!!!
WTF htc tmobile
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Sorry dude, but you're ranting more than explaining any of the issues.
What exactly are the problems?

ok dr.fixit
why does my web connection get lost every now and then , to the point i have to turn my data connection on and off.. and please dont tell me to disable HSPDA or whatever cuz i tried it and it still happens..
why does zooming in on websites using opera 9 make everything blurry( pics and text) ,please dont tell me to switch to opera 10 cuz that little zoom window that appears is terrible. and the auto resizing sucks.
why doesnt this phone download full emails ( with pics) ,i already set it to download full email , but then i have to manually download pics
i have bsb tweaks, regedit, cookies home tab, cleanram.. and this **** still freezes.

I can understand your annoyance, but talking sarcastically to people showing a wish to assist isn't going to encourage help from these forums.
Does the drop in connection happen when you are stationary (i.e. when you're sat at a desk in an office) or while you're travelling, or both?
Opera 9, are you zooming with pinch-to-zoom or double tapping? or both?
Do you have "Mobile View" ticked in the settings?
Have you got gmail set up as IMAP or POP3?

omil25 said:
i had an iphone for 3 years
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That's the problem.
Stevie has been bottle-feeding you for three years and now you are overwhelmed with the freedom a real phone gives you

like Skycamefalling stated you have had an iphone for 3 years, so the tweaking bit you have to get to grips with, email on the phone works great i have 4 accounts working on mine and 1 of them is push,

tbh some of the issues you list could be down to your provider as opposed to the phone itself.
i have had my HD2 since dec 24th and love it to bits. i do not have any of the probs you list but then i am in the uk with a different version of the phone and a different provider as well.
Mike

omil25 said:
3g connection goes on vaca periodically
you have to tweak the ish out of it, ( and im still not happy)
had it since March 24th... US tmobile
still trying to get to where it should be
email sucks , especiallly if you have gmail
i find myself checking this forum more than my email.
its really starting to pis me off.
i had high hopes for this phone , its really not user freindly
i had an iphone for 3 years , and was looking for a good change ,
F it , this is the official complaint thread....post here
and oh yeah , everybody i know up here in Boston ,MA. with this phone is complaining!!!!!!!!
WTF htc tmobile
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I can tell you that your 3g problems are probably because of T-Mobiles crappy 3g coverage. I can't get 3g inside any building at all in my area. T-Mobiles 1700 band doesn't penetrate through walls or objects as well as AT&Ts 850 3g band. I really miss AT&Ts 3g coverage... it worked everywhere for me.
For your freezing problems... do you remember to make sure you fully close any apps you aren't using with a task manager. If you have too many things running in the backround it can cause problems. Most people who are used to an iphone don't remember to do that.

skycamefalling ,,,,,that was funny.i have no problem tweaking internally. my iphone was tweaked beyond comprehension. you jester you!!
to all my British bretheren , i have the US version remember.
rp-x1,,,connection lost while both traveling and stable, on opera 9 , mobile view is off, and i use double tap as well as pinch to zoom, email,incoming is imap,outgoing is smtp

I have a TMOUS HD2 and I love it. I guess you have to be kind of technical at least to love this phone. Iphone is a no brainer, locked down OS. Pick up and download apps and use. LOL... All people I know, with an iphone, aren't really technical. I've never really cared for an iPhone. This is my first smartphone, but this is just buying me time for a real Mobile Computer.

daily driver,,,,dude im from Boston ,gimme a break will ya.
i have N-O problem digging into the registry.
RP-X1 ,,, you seem savvy, what do you propose ?

3G i cant help because you have a US version, tweaking wise whats the problem? email wise is it just the pictures downloading you have problem with

demon,,, yes its the pics i have a problem with on the email.
zara-whatever,,,, you have a point, verizon 3g is better then att, but att is better than tmobile,, oh and dude , my task manager is a quick link.

i might just have to go to verizon and get the incredible.......

dailydriver said:
I have a TMOUS HD2 and I love it. I guess you have to be kind of technical at least to love this phone. Iphone is a no brainer, locked down OS. Pick up and download apps and use. LOL... All people I know, with an iphone, aren't really technical. I've never really cared for an iPhone. This is my first smartphone, but this is just buying me time for a real Mobile Computer.
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No, you don't. I have seen and experienced more problems with this phone and I'm an avid android user. I'm experiencing the same issues the poster is having as well, and I've experienced this with two different hd2's within the past couple weeks (buyers remorse is a godsend).
The phone may have the potential to rock face, but it's like my beloved Rx-7's... potential to kick a lot of ass but the reality is they're more problematic than they're worth. The phone has a lot of issues, you shouldn't HAVE to close down a single app in order for your phone to respond. Having the ability to do that is nice, but it shouldn't be a requirement especially if you're only running a couple apps like messages, music, opera and the phone itself.
I say if the person upset can take it back or sell it, do so. I am taking mine back if I don't see any improvements by this weekend.
Tweaking is fun when it functions; tweaking to get things to operate half right and it STILL doesn't even do that is beyond annoying.
Outta curiosity, could we take this phone to at&t and use it? (US side)

To put it another way, I feel as if i'm paying Tmobile/HTC/Windows Mobile to beta test their lack luster phone with zero software support and no forseeable end to the beta or a worthwhile product at the end of the cycle.

omil25 said:
skycamefalling ,,,,,that was funny.i have no problem tweaking internally. my iphone was tweaked beyond comprehension. you jester you!!
to all my British bretheren , i have the US version remember.
rp-x1,,,connection lost while both traveling and stable, on opera 9 , mobile view is off, and i use double tap as well as pinch to zoom, email,incoming is imap,outgoing is smtp
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Does it drop the connection while surfing? If so, did the connection slow down/drop bars first?
Opera, Is it every page that goes fuzzy, does it do it on the mobile versions of the same sites? Do you get a checkerboard effect appear while zooming also?
Can't really help with the gmail issue as I only have hotmail on imap. I have seen a few posts mention that it doesn't download images unless requested. I must admit it does it randomly (although very rarely) on my POP accounts on mine.
I've not been able to track it down as to whether its due to closing the connection to the server prematurely, or whether its just having a funny 5.

neither of my accounts will download pictures auto apperently its a saftey feature something like that let me fine the link for you has more info.

Demon_man said:
neither of my accounts will download pictures auto apperently its a saftey feature something like that let me fine the link for you has more info.
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I know Pocket Outlook stops it automatically, but mine download the entire message through pop after adjusting the settings.

veritas17 said:
No, you don't. I have seen and experienced more problems with this phone and I'm an avid android user. I'm experiencing the same issues the poster is having as well, and I've experienced this with two different hd2's within the past couple weeks (buyers remorse is a godsend).
The phone may have the potential to rock face, but it's like my beloved Rx-7's... potential to kick a lot of ass but the reality is they're more problematic than they're worth. The phone has a lot of issues, you shouldn't HAVE to close down a single app in order for your phone to respond. Having the ability to do that is nice, but it shouldn't be a requirement especially if you're only running a couple apps like messages, music, opera and the phone itself.
I say if the person upset can take it back or sell it, do so. I am taking mine back if I don't see any improvements by this weekend.
Tweaking is fun when it functions; tweaking to get things to operate half right and it STILL doesn't even do that is beyond annoying.
Outta curiosity, could we take this phone to at&t and use it? (US side)
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I really don't understand why some people have all these problems with these phones, even after getting a replacement. I have had no issues whatsoever... I can run usually over 10 apps at a time with no lagging or freezing. It ran fine out of the box for me with no tweeks. I've installed and uninstalled many apps, including ones that were questionable to experiment and test out. I was actually surprised it didn't freeze up with what I threw at it. I've owned 8 other winmo devices and the HD2 has been the fastest, most stable one. So when I see people having problems with freezing, I have to figure you either have a faulty device or it's something the user has done (either installed something or using it in some way that causes it.). So saying that you have to tweak it to get it to work right doesn't apply to everyone or every HD2 and these issues seem to be for certain users or HD2s. It does seem that most of the people with these issues are people who have liitle or no experience with winmo, but I can't figure out how exactly someone would use it to cause these issues. Maybe there's a large number of defective units. idk.
Also, to use your Tmous HD2 on AT&T, you'll need to unlock it first. And you will only get edge speeds with AT&T... no 3g.

I'm done with my N1. Back to WinMo for me.

This is not a troll posting. I swear...
I've had the AT&T flavored Nexus One since the day it was announced and I just can't suffer with it anymore. I'm running stock FRF91 with an unlocked bootloader. The only reason I unlocked the bootloader was so I could root and uninstall the apps that drained my battery or sucked resources that I never used - Twitter, Amazon-MP3, Genie-Widget, etc.
Pre-Froyo, it seemed pretty stable but the OS was very immature. Some things were just not well thought out. Activesync for example.
Post-Froyo: Turn on GPS, reboot. Talk on the phone for a long period of time, reboot. Charge the phone, reboot. Use Bluetooth, reboot. GPS is 100% useless now as after just a few minutes of use, the phone gets hot and reboots the phone. Hell, leave the phone in the sun in your car and it gets hot and reboots. Froyo offers some new features but some areas of the OS are still neglected and way behind where they should be. Can't move emails to a folder? Seriously? Can't undelete an email you accidentally deleted? That's just stupid. And there are a few other things that Windows Mobile had right for the last 10 years.
Yesterday alone, my phone rebooted several dozen times because I was trying to find a location with GPS and I was completely turned around with no idea where I was. I finally had to power off the phone, leave it off, and go ask someone at a gas station for directions. The phone reboots as soon as it gets hot and it appears everything makes the phone get hot.
Rip on Windows Mobile all you want, but I never once had a Windows Mobile device reboot on me and not do what it normally does. I'll throw CM6 on my N1 when it becomes final to see if things get better and I'll thrown on Gingerbread when that finally drops, but unless one of those solves the constant reboot issue, I'm done with Android. I've kept up with the Google forums and many, many, many people have the same issues I have so my N1 is obviously not an isolated case.
There are a lot of things I do like about Android so I'm not bashing Android. I like Android enough that if my phone didn't reboot constantly it'd be my primary platform moving forward.
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-Mc

I've had my N1 since the day after they were released and it has never rebooted spontaneously. Your phone is a lemon.

Try calling HTC?

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I've had my N1 since the day after they were released and it has never rebooted spontaneously. Your phone is a lemon.
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I agree, the only time my phone gets hot is when I leave it in my landscaping truck while I'm mowing, but I think any phone would have problems when it's 112 degrees outside and probably 140 in the truck.

Sounds like a bad phone. The only time my N1 rebooted was when I had an experimental rom on it.

Sounds like something is just borked, I use my phone all day it only reboots because I want to go into recovery.
Are yur using custom recovery? Wipe the cache and dalvik-cache.

Same as the above poster, mine never rebooted spontaneously even when hitting over 40C degrees. Only does so when I'm running some cutting-edge alpha kernels/ROMs, and then very rarely.

I was thinking it was specific to my device as well. I then googled "Nexus One overheating" and was overwhelmed by the number of people with the same issue. I also own over a dozen HTC devices, I've had ZERO problems with any of them. I've wiped my cache quite a few times. I've even wiped the phone and started fresh.
I've googled every specific issue I have had and found many others complaining about the same thing. Overheating/locking up the device when charging overnight - check. Rebooting/overheating when using GPS - check.
Lately, I've been uninstalling anything that runs in the background that isn't an essential part of the OS. Makes no difference. When I first got my N1, I used the GPS and Car Home app to drive an 8 hour trip. Not a single problem. The very first time I tried to use Car Home after going to Froyo it rebooted after just a few minutes and it's been that way since. I found MANY posts that confirmed this on Google's forums.
Personally, I think my device is fine. I suppose it's always possible that an app is causing the reboots. For example, the Weather Channel app is always running and that's not the most beautifully coded app I've ever seen...
Any suggestions, keep 'em coming. I'm not thrilled with Windows Mobile 7 yet.
Here's my installed apps (I love that program BTW). If you see anything as a possible suspect, let me know:
Adobe Flash Player 10.1 (v10.1.92.8)
andLess (v1.2.3)
Android Agenda Widget (v1.3.5)
AT&T myWireless Mobile (v6.0)
Audalyzer (v1.14)
Barcode Scanner (v3.4)
BlueRSS (v3.0.4)
Chrome to Phone (v2.0.0)
eBay (v1.1.2.3)
eBuddy (v1.8.1)
Ethereal Dialpad (v2.5.2)
FCC Test (v1.0.7)
Flashlight (v2)
FREEdi Video Download Helper (v1.3.1)
FrostWire (v0.3.7)
Google Translate (v1.1.1)
GPS Status (v3.2)
gStrings (v1.0.5)
HistoryEraser (v2.1.1)
HTC_IME mod (vv.27)
JScreenFix (v2.0)
Keyboard Calibration (v2.10)
Linda Manager (v1.5.12)
Listen (v1.1.3)
Log Collector (v1.1.0)
Music Junk (v3.0.4)
My Battery Status (v2.0.8)
MyAppsList (v1.4 BETA)
Network Info II (v0.3.4)
Note Pad (v1)
OSMonitor (v1.1.6)
Pandora (v1.3)
Penguin (v1.2.0)
RealCalc (v1.4.1)
Scanner Radio (v1.9.2)
Secrets (v1.9.2)
Shazam (v2.0.2-B70005)
Shopper (v1.12)
Solo Lite (v1.25)
Terminal Emulator (v1.0.12)
Tetronimo (v1.5.1)
The Weather Channel (v2.3.17)
Titanium Backup (v3.4.2)
Trapster (v1.6.3)
Tricorder (v5.11)
TTS Service Extended (v2.0)
Universal Androot (v1.5.3)
Voice Recorder (v2.0.7)
Wifi Analyzer (v2.4.8)
WiimoteController (v0.3b)
XDA (v1.2.1)
Device Summary
Device: HTC Nexus One
Android Version: 2.2
Build: FRF91
List Generated By: MyAppsList (market://search?q=com.boots.MyAppsList)

By the sound of it, it's not an app. The phone should be able to take a good amount of heat and not reboot - the only time I got it to reboot was under direct sunlight in a car, it was probably hitting 50 degrees Celsius. If yours reboots every time you do anything - it's time to nandroid, take out the battery and clean the battery contacts really well (on the battery and the phone, using alcohol), flash a bone stock FRF91 or something really close to it, try to repeat the things that made it reboot (shouldn't be very difficult), and if the reboots continue - then I'm sorry, but you have a lemon. And if they don't - change to your favorite ROM and start incrementally installing stuff in small packs, until your testing shows reboots again. Defining anything other than Google account (like Exchange account) is also considered "installing something".
E-Mail quirks are taken care of by E-Mail clients. Exchange server push might be draining the hell out of your battery and heating your phone, check the relevant thread. I really hope you find the problem in SW, but it doesn't look very much like it.
P.S. There are so many ways to get a WinMo phone stuck (my wife has one, I regularly practice using the reset button when doing something with the system) it's not even funny.

thanks for the tips. I'll give them a shot. I read in a couple different threads that HTC has been sending replacement batteries to those with overheating issues. I have a hard time believing it's the battery but what do I know?
One thing I forgot to add about WinMo, I soft reset my device every morning on the way to work. Just a habit I got into with Windows.
-Mc

Yeah sounds like you got a faulty device. If the above suggestions don't work, call HTC and they should do a swap for you

went to the Google "Device Troubleshooter" support page: http://google.com/support/android/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=185837
Step 1: What are you having an issue with?
selected: A hardware problem I'm having with the Nexus One
Step 2: A hardware problem i’m having with the Nexus One
selected: My device overheats
Then it said this:
It is normal for your phone to get warm after an extended period of continual usage, such as a long phone conversation. If your phone becomes so warm that you cannot hold it comfortably, please try removing the battery and waiting until the phone cools off before replacing it.
If your phone overheats to the point of shutting itself off repeatedly, there may be a hardware defect with your phone's battery. Please visit our warranty information page.
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So I called support (open 7 days a week - nice) and they are shipping out a new battery tomorrow and if that doesn't work, I'll send it in for repair. Didn't want to replace it because it was engraved.
I really hope this fixes it. I do like Android and I love the community work. iOS blows and Windows Mobile 7 just doesn't have me wanting one.
I'll update this thread when the new battery arrives and if necessary, after the repair work...

I used to have the same problem, but i don't think it was rom specific for me. I had a black case on my phone and my car mount was a black universal one mounted on my windshield. I would use GPS nav and play music at the same time and sometimes make phone calls and it would reboot pretty frequently. Through SetCPU i noticed that the temp was somewhere between 45-50degrees C. only way i was able to use my phone was to remove the battery and stick it in my AC vent along with the phone itself.
So since then i got myself a AC mounted carmount and no longer use my case and its been fine ever since. When ever it gets hot in my car i usually have AC on and the phoen gets cooled by it also. Average temp was around 15-18degrees C while i was using GPS/Music/Calls.

lulz, sounds like your phone had a hardware issue if it was rebooting all the time like that.
I have had my phone on for literally weeks at a time with out a reboot. Android is rock solid stable.
Way to not get your issue fixed and go back to a dead mobile OS that was never developed properly in the first place. Good luck with that champ.

My phone could stab me in the balls all day long and I still wouldn't revert to the current winmo.

McHale said:
This is not a troll posting. I swear...
I've had the AT&T flavored Nexus One since the day it was announced and I just can't suffer with it anymore. I'm running stock FRF91 with an unlocked bootloader. The only reason I unlocked the bootloader was so I could root and uninstall the apps that drained my battery or sucked resources that I never used - Twitter, Amazon-MP3, Genie-Widget, etc.
Pre-Froyo, it seemed pretty stable but the OS was very immature. Some things were just not well thought out. Activesync for example.
Post-Froyo: Turn on GPS, reboot. Talk on the phone for a long period of time, reboot. Charge the phone, reboot. Use Bluetooth, reboot. GPS is 100% useless now as after just a few minutes of use, the phone gets hot and reboots the phone. Hell, leave the phone in the sun in your car and it gets hot and reboots. Froyo offers some new features but some areas of the OS are still neglected and way behind where they should be. Can't move emails to a folder? Seriously? Can't undelete an email you accidentally deleted? That's just stupid. And there are a few other things that Windows Mobile had right for the last 10 years.
Yesterday alone, my phone rebooted several dozen times because I was trying to find a location with GPS and I was completely turned around with no idea where I was. I finally had to power off the phone, leave it off, and go ask someone at a gas station for directions. The phone reboots as soon as it gets hot and it appears everything makes the phone get hot.
Rip on Windows Mobile all you want, but I never once had a Windows Mobile device reboot on me and not do what it normally does. I'll throw CM6 on my N1 when it becomes final to see if things get better and I'll thrown on Gingerbread when that finally drops, but unless one of those solves the constant reboot issue, I'm done with Android. I've kept up with the Google forums and many, many, many people have the same issues I have so my N1 is obviously not an isolated case.
There are a lot of things I do like about Android so I'm not bashing Android. I like Android enough that if my phone didn't reboot constantly it'd be my primary platform moving forward.
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-Mc
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Your phone is defective. I've NEVER experienced a spontaneous reboot.

uansari1 said:
Your phone is defective. I've NEVER experienced a spontaneous reboot.
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Same here** (only when I played with different kernels )

GldRush98 said:
Way to not get your issue fixed and go back to a dead mobile OS that was never developed properly in the first place. Good luck with that champ.
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you're not much of a reader, are you?

JCopernicus said:
My phone could stab me in the balls all day long and I still wouldn't revert to the current winmo.
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Fact: Windows Mobile still does several things much better than Android. And those things are important to me on my primary device.
I get what you're saying though. Despite a few issues, Android is dominating everything in it's wake. But instead of Android spending so much time with new flashy features, they should focus their attention getting the basics right first. Their contact and email handling B L O W S. How about proper email folder handling and a basic undelete function...

I agree with the rest. To be honest, I didn't get my Nexus new, it has had two users before me. It came with Cyanogen Mod, and to be honest I find it gives better battery life and performance compared to the stock OS. If I were you I'd try it out once you get the Nexus back.
I use ROM manager to download and install ROMs, give it a try.

why is dead battery causing so much issues on custom roms?

original roms dont seem to suffer from these issues.
every custom rom i tried(nand and SD) had same issues after battery went dead.
isnt there a safety shutdown feature that can be added to prevent this?

Nand roms shouldn't be so bad, I have run my battery dead a bunch of times on my phone with UD 3.0.0 RC1, and never has it caused a problem. But running the battery dead on an SD build is where you can get big problems, because the entire system loads from the SD card, and by letting the battery run dead, Android doesn't get a chance to unload properly, as the card is still being written to when shutdown takes place, alot of the time corrupting the sd card or the Android directory or the data.img
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

The issue isnt the ROMs, its a MAGLDR bug. Phone cant charge under magldr.
Workaround: Boot into MAGLDR and then into CWM. Charges under CWM.
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Change from MAGLDR to CLK
Andy

Boradan said:
The issue isnt the ROMs, its a MAGLDR bug. Phone cant charge under magldr.
Workaround: Boot into MAGLDR and then into CWM. Charges under CWM.
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Change from MAGLDR to CLK
Andy
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Wasn't the question...
Anyway, some apps store data on the sd card, when it shuts down suddenly due to empty battery, this data can get corrupted (That's why most roms don't use DATA2Ext but App2SD+, to prevent this). That's why most (if not, all) NAND Roms don't have this issue (at least, It never occurred to me) but SD roms do, as huggs explained.

isnt it possible to make an app that shuts off the phone i nstead of letting it die?

I use an ext4 with DarkTremor's A2SD script and never had corruption from running out of battery. I could just be lucky, idk.
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man this is BS it has to be plugged inconstantly in order to keep it alive its like my sony laptop with a 2.4 ghz pentium processor and bigass screen.
the battery only lasted 3 hours.
i go to work and leave the phone untouched for the whole day the battery goes to half thats the ONLY way i can make it last till the end of work day.
if i even think about txting or writing an email or god forbid browse internet that **** drops to almost dead batery instantly.
and sometimes i dont have a charger so the phone dies because it cant shut down on its own.
and to add to that theres a GREAT!!!!! feature that conveniently turns the screen on and turns off all the power saving features such as dim screen.
so it turns the phone on starts buzzing and screen on full brightness, to let me know that my battery is dying WTF really???

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man this is BS it has to be plugged inconstantly in order to keep it alive its like my sony laptop with a 2.4 ghz pentium processor and bigass screen.
the battery only lasted 3 hours.
i go to work and leave the phone untouched for the whole day the battery goes to half thats the ONLY way i can make it last till the end of work day.
if i even think about txting or writing an email or god forbid browse internet that **** drops to almost dead batery instantly.
and sometimes i dont have a charger so the phone dies because it cant shut down on its own.
and to add to that theres a GREAT!!!!! feature that conveniently turns the screen on and turns off all the power saving features such as dim screen.
so it turns the phone on starts buzzing and screen on full brightness, to let me know that my battery is dying WTF really???
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We at XDA made Android available for an aging phone of yours at *NO COST* involved, If you have a problem live with it until we learn how to fix it. And if this seems too unbearable, just STFU and stay with HTC stock WM6.5 rom.

if you make a ruler you make it exact.
even if you give it away for free.
you dont make a ruler that measures 1 inch short...because people depend on it.
i just hate all these BS claims about the system beeing stable when its not even close.
i installed android because i thought it was ok for everyday use by someone that doesnt sit here on this board for hours trying to keep up to speed with all the latest updates.
im very happy that this android development extended the life of a factory crippled phone but dont tell me that im the only one having this issue.
u have no idea how many times this thing freezes up right when i need it. when im in the car driving and need to use google maps but cant because this **** is bugging out.
or now for example it doesnt even load up sense it gives me the com.htc.bgp force close.
im very fn tired of this loading and unloading of cooked roms and actually looking for a phone that came with android.
like i said if you make something, EVEN IF ITS FREE, you are still responsible for making it work because people depend on it. and i dont have 2-3 hours a day to spend reading through this board trying to make my phone work again.
you can hate me or disagree i dont give a faq this is my opinion.

fuzzysig said:
if you make a ruler you make it exact.
even if you give it away for free.
you dont make a ruler that measures 1 inch short...because people depend on it.
i just hate all these BS claims about the system beeing stable when its not even close.
i installed android because i thought it was ok for everyday use by someone that doesnt sit here on this board for hours trying to keep up to speed with all the latest updates.
im very happy that this android development extended the life of a factory crippled phone but dont tell me that im the only one having this issue.
u have no idea how many times this thing freezes up right when i need it. when im in the car driving and need to use google maps but cant because this **** is bugging out.
or now for example it doesnt even load up sense it gives me the com.htc.bgp force close.
im very fn tired of this loading and unloading of cooked roms and actually looking for a phone that came with android.
like i said if you make something, EVEN IF ITS FREE, you are still responsible for making it work because people depend on it. and i dont have 2-3 hours a day to spend reading through this board trying to make my phone work again.
you can hate me or disagree i dont give a faq this is my opinion.
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Wow, you're an ungrateful bastard (to quote the 'you are a noob on XDA Developers video) IMO. How can you not appreciate what the Devs here are doing? They put in hours and hours of work, and you still don't appreciate how brilliant it has made the HD2?! Please, make us a perfect ROM, and share it with us, so that you can show us your perfect skills. Don't you read up on the issues of each ROM before flashing it?
Also, the system is EXTREMELY stable. My CM7 HD2 is far faster than my friend's DesHD. I get better battery life and it's just faster in general. You should really be more appreciative of the hard work of the brilliant devs here and also, before accusing people of BS and lying, think about whether it may be a problem with you.
Please, give your HD2 to someone with the mental capability to use it.

fuzzysig said:
the battery only lasted 3 hours.
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if i even think about txting or writing an email or god forbid browse internet that **** drops to almost dead batery instantly.
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fuzzysig said:
u have no idea how many times this thing freezes up right when i need it.
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faulty phone/battery.

yea thats what comcast says every time i make a trouble call
oh ur modem is bad... only to find out that their network has problems again and again.
my battery is fine and so is the phone.
it worked without a hitch for 4-5 months untill battery died first time. since then the problems just been piling up.
and finally today it wouldnt even show the home screen.
so again for the 4th time i lost all my new contacts and whatever information i had on it because it cant shut down properly when its dead.
im picking up an htc sensation that has android already on it so i dont have to deal with this bs no more.
and **** you MR public defender i never said i hate the developers and in any way ungratefull. i was trying to figure out how to deal with this problem untill people started accusing me of beeing ungratefull.
i know what it takes to make this work and have alot of respect for people that do it. but you put urself in my shoes maybe for a second.
i have my office on this phone and whenver it doesnt work i cant do **** anymore.
i had txt messages, notes, phone numbers etc saved here that i wasnt able to recover and had to reset my phone in order to make it work again.
spent 5 hours trying to make it work since yesterday so now tell me how the faq am i supposed to feel after dealing with this crap.
i switched to this phone because everyone claims its STABLE. yea stable untill your battery dies and then **** starts happening...
i went through 6 different roms that means every time i have to spend hours setting my customizations etc and saving the data that i have on it.
how convenient is that.
beeing faster doesnt mean its more stable btw...