Damage vs. Fresh - EVO 4G General

Just wanting some opinions. I'm using Fresh 0.2 and wondering if its worth it to switch. Thanks for any response.
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It's different for sure...do a nandroid of your current setup and play with damage for a while...if you don't like it, restore your nandroid back to fresh and you haven't lost any settings.

calripkenturner said:
Just wanting some opinions. I'm using Fresh 0.2 and wondering if its worth it to switch. Thanks for any response.
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Ohh Yeah, Damage made some crazy battery improvement, dont get me wrong, I love Flipz and was using it till two days ago, and found that my battery was running as I was running stock ROM, but now with Damage, last time i charge my phone was last night 10 pm.
Right now it is 5.30pm EST NYC, and still got 52%
GPS running, WIFI, Exchange email, Gvoice, Fring, Android Community, PDAnet, and some others.
Your turn to judge.

Kykiskly said:
Ohh Yeah, Damage made some crazy battery improvement, dont get me wrong, I love Flipz and was using it till two days ago, and found that my battery was running as I was running stock ROM, but now with Damage, last time i charge my phone was last night 10 pm.
Right now it is 5.30pm EST NYC, and still got 52%
GPS running, WIFI, Exchange email, Gvoice, Fring, Android Community, PDAnet, and some others.
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Damn, that's crazy.

calripkenturner said:
Damn, that's crazy.
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It is true dude, I dont know what the heck he did to it, I guess the phone idles so nice now, and to tell you the truth, I even stopped using auto task killers to fully test the ROM.

I use Fresh because I have always followed flipz, and I just trust him more.
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I use Fresh because I have always followed flipz, and I just trust him more.
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Thats the boat I'm in. Switched from Fresh on my Hero and ever since, just...problems.
I'm sure he's got his own kick ass tweaks coming soon anyway. In the meantime, fewer sprint apps is nice.

Both are great. Try them out and make your own decision. Many of the asop like ruins are also nice and so us the froyo port. If you can live without the camera for now that its also a great alternative. Soon enough we will have much more variety.

I'd use damage but there's some problems with it I just can't get past. For now i'm just getting by with one of these till the developer from my old phone puts out one for the evo

Ive had better luck with the Damage ROM then I have with the Fresh ROM. I also think Bugless and Baked ROM's are pretty darn close to Damage as well. The only ROM I had issues with was the Fresh ROM actually

been using Fresh and haven't really had ANY issues. Curious to hear from other people about damages battery life. Is it really that much better? I'm not that happy with the phones battery life. Coming from the Hero i've used both Fresh rom and Damagecontrol from there so i know they both make good roms. I don't really like all the sprint apps, but those are easy enough to pull out with adb.

timgt said:
Ive had better luck with the Damage ROM then I have with the Fresh ROM. I also think Bugless and Baked ROM's are pretty darn close to Damage as well. The only ROM I had issues with was the Fresh ROM actually
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What kind of issues? I used Fresh s9nce the day it was released and never had a problem. Just curious.
boredmug said:
been using Fresh and haven't really had ANY issues. Curious to hear from other people about damages battery life. Is it really that much better? I'm not that happy with the phones battery life. Coming from the Hero i've used both Fresh rom and Damagecontrol from there so i know they both make good roms. I don't really like all the sprint apps, but those are easy enough to pull out with adb.
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Same here, I used Damagecontrol more than Fresh though.

calripkenturner said:
What kind of issues? I used Fresh s9nce the day it was released and never had a problem. Just curious.
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Memory leaks and no flash support (i think he fixed the latter with his last update though)

i use both i used both on my hero and will do the same on my EVO
atm im running flipz

Personally I switched from using Fresh to DamageControl. No 'huge' differences as far as battery life and such. Personally I think they are faily close to the same, other than the look of course. I liked Fresh, but I like Damage also. Cant wait til further update tho, and only both, and other ROMs can get better.

I'm done flashing, for now. I went from the Hero to the Evo and I flashed my Hero every update and tried different ROMs. I like the Evo stock cause I'm not always wonder if the "other" is slightly quicker or better on battery life. Also like it because I'm not having to reload all my apps and settings from ROM to ROM.

gottria said:
I'm done flashing, for now. I went from the Hero to the Evo and I flashed my Hero every update and tried different ROMs. I like the Evo stock cause I'm not always wonder if the "other" is slightly quicker or better on battery life. Also like it because I'm not having to reload all my apps and settings from ROM to ROM.
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This is what nandroids are for. You can just save the current device and put it back to the exact way it was before.

Did Damage for 2 days and Fresh for 2 days.
With Damage my Battery life was DREADFUL, I had to recharge twice in the same day, both days.
Fresh, 16+ hours.
Same use, same apps for both installs.

A lot of conflicting posts, guess ill wait for more to chime in. Until then I'll stick with Fresh for now.

How many SD cards did u go thru with all that flashing? I am trying to be conscious of that so I dont turn mine into useless plastic.
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[URGENT] Best for battery?

Hey guys, I'm leaving for a hike later this evening, 100km over 3 days and I need to use my Hero to track my exact location.
My question is, what is the best ROM for battery life?
I took the Hero on my last hike which was 30km tracking with MyTracks and running my own 2.1 ROM (see sig) and the battery died after 9 hours.
I DO NOT care what features the build has, I need it literally to be able to run MyTracks with GPS and nothing more for the next 3 days.
I have taken an emergency charger but the battery time that's likely to give me is negligable so I need something that can make the difference between an extra hour or two, or if more is possible it would be really great.
Any advice would be appreciated asap.
Thanks.
Frankly, with GPS on, even if you turn off everything else, theres no way your going to get a standard Hero battery to last 3 days. Take charged spares.
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Frankly, with GPS on, even if you turn off everything else, theres no way your going to get a standard Hero battery to last 3 days. Take charged spares.
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I'm aware of that, but I don't have any spares, not time to get hold of them, you an't just buy the things locally.
I'm looking for a ROM that will give me atleast a bit more battery life than I'm likely to get with my current one and hope I can find somewhere to charge half way (1.5 days) in
maybe modaco's 3.2 ROM? its based on 1.5. the kernel would offer best performance i would have thought. all the 2.1 ROMs have bad battery life so my advice would to be stay away from those.
next time buy this bad boy
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maybe modaco's 3.2 ROM? its based on 1.5. the kernel would offer best performance i would have thought. all the 2.1 ROMs have bad battery life so my advice would to be stay away from those.
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Yeh, I'm currently frantically modifying the stock 1.5 to remove Sense etc and see if iI can modify it it to be a bit more battery saving, I don't need 99% of the apps cause I just need it to run myTracks and nothing else.
My concern with Modaco is all the additions and performance increases may not necessarily be battery efficient, and the one and only time I tried ModaCo was a bad experience.
As for 2.1, of course I know theyre not great for battery, I made one (see sig)
im currently looking for a 2.1 that has decent battery performance im on the VillianROM 5.1 at the moment.
might try yours next
sincerely , i dont think that any roms would be able to get you one and a half day with gps.(
what i noticed is that battery drain differed from rom to rom with a couple of hrs between them ( like 3-4 maximum) but nothing like days
deeren said:
sincerely , i dont think that any roms would be able to get you one and a half day with gps.(
what i noticed is that battery drain differed from rom to rom with a couple of hrs between them ( like 3-4 maximum) but nothing like days
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Even 3-4 hours is good enough, it gets the last recorded location 3-4 hours closer to where i was before the battery died, I'm hiking so there is only so far I can have gone within that time.
I'v just stripped down the stock Hero ROM and removed all the HTC junk including Rosie and Lockscreen and most of the apps, all of the htc widgets etc. Going to see how I get o with this, I really do like Rosie but will be interesting to see how I get on with this ugly duckling.
PulpzillA said:
maybe modaco's 3.2 ROM? its based on 1.5. the kernel would offer best performance i would have thought. all the 2.1 ROMs have bad battery life so my advice would to be stay away from those.
next time buy this bad boy
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the mugen battery is very nice. i even bought one for myself at the beginning but i ended keeping it in my closet. The phone gets too thick and the lovely htc hero just looses its charm
well maybe you could try mcr 2.8 , disable all data sync(even google ...), even disable mobile network ( or switch on 2g). basically you can disable all the phone functions and use it only as gps i guess cause u need it for my tracks only.
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the mugen battery is very nice. i even bought one for myself at the beginning but i ended keeping it in my closet. The phone gets too thick and the lovely htc hero just looses its charm
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I'll definately look into one of these for next time, but I'm leaving tonight so don't have time to get hold of one.
deeren said:
well maybe you could try mcr 2.8 , disable all data sync(even google ...), even disable mobile network ( or switch on 2g). basically you can disable all the phone functions and use it only as gps i guess cause u need it for my tracks only.
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that's the plan, I'm stripping the Stock one atm, I removed HTC_IME thinking it would default to the stock one though and I can't even get to input methods or anything to set it
would using a vanilla android ROM work?
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would using a vanilla android ROM work?
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Yeh, most probably, but which ones are light weight and stable (I'll stick with 1.5 builds because theyre official and fully working.)
Like I said I'm currently ripping everything out of the Hero stock one because I havn't been able to find a decent vanilla 1.5 for hero, most of it seems to be for the G1.
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Yeh, most probably, but which ones are light weight and stable (I'll stick with 1.5 builds because theyre official and fully working.)
Like I said I'm currently ripping everything out of the Hero stock one because I havn't been able to find a decent vanilla 1.5 for hero, most of it seems to be for the G1.
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you could try aychteesee's vanilla cupcake from here :
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...illa-cupcake-rom-gsm-now-with-online-kitchen/
from what i know, he build it completely from the 2.73 hero rom.
deeren said:
you could try aychteesee's vanilla cupcake from here :
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...illa-cupcake-rom-gsm-now-with-online-kitchen/
from what i know, he build it completely from the 2.73 hero rom.
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Perfect thanks, looks like just that I need, and by the time I remove all the extra apps I don't need etc, should be great! Thanks.
after you have done that could you then post up the rom i would maybe like to test with out ripping and the only 2.1 rom i find that has goodish battery life is aHero
I would recoment SetCpu or something to keel the CPU running at 245mhz.
This is a age battery saver.
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I would recoment SetCpu or something to keel the CPU running at 245mhz.
This is a age battery saver.
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Like he said^^
Use SetCPU or CPUoverclockwidget.
I use CPUoverclockwidget because it can change the CPU speed to 128MHz and also change how fast the phone should be in standby and with screen on.

Best rom without sense?

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darchdroid!
imho- darchdroid wins. great rom. its speedy, stable and has a handful of neat little extras. i had an issues with wifi tethering(1.6) on 2.6.5 but 2.6.4 worked great. without sense and being aosp a few of the apps are a little on the plain side but they work very well.
cheers and best of luck,
ryan
Try Darch's ROM of you want one with no sense.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684202
I haven't tried any other ROMS that say they have no sense so I couldn't say anything about them but this is complete AOSP so of you really don't want sense and want a good ROM, use this.
concur....DarchDroid
There is no 2.1 rom other then Darchdroid that doesnt have some form of SenseUI tied to it.
Every other rom just deletes the rosie.apk and adds a different launcher, every one of the roms are still based entirely of htc framework.
I too prefer not using sense
I've been using Ic3rom and I love it easily the fastest rom I've used (Not overclocked or running jit) I love the N1 keyboard too.
But i've gotten like two random reboots today and I don't know whats causing it, might go back to 2.8
I like IceRom... with overclock it flies and it doesnt have sense. Currently im using PureHero and its a bit more themed and detailed but still pretty darn fast. Roms w/out sense r definitely faster!
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There is no 2.1 rom other then Darchdroid that doesnt have some form of SenseUI tied to it.
Every other rom just deletes the rosie.apk and adds a different launcher, every one of the roms are still based entirely of htc framework.
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QFT
Darchdroid is definitely the best ROM I've used. I rarely use MMS, and I can live without GPS (I only use it when I go out of town, which hasn't been often lately). It's true AOSP, truly lacking sense, and truly wicked fast.
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Darchdroid is definitely the best ROM I've used. I rarely use MMS, and I can live without GPS (I only use it when I go out of town, which hasn't been often lately). It's true AOSP, truly lacking sense, and truly wicked fast.
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And once you calibrate battery (full charge, use till dead, charge again). The battery on darchdroid is just insanely amazing.
But i've gotten like two random reboots today and I don't know whats causing it, might go back to 2.8
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There is an issue causing Icerom 2.9 to reboot on incoming calls. I've not heard anything about a fix either but I could be wrong.
On the subject of the topic. Darchdroid is very nice and is the only true sense free rom at the moment. Icerom and purehero are pretty good but it was mentioned a few posts back. They are still built from the htc framework.
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Darchdroid 2.7 hands down!
very fast, decent battery life and footprint is small
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And once you calibrate battery (full charge, use till dead, charge again). The battery on darchdroid is just insanely amazing.
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Did that and completely disagree. I think, and I have no idea why this is, but the battery life fluxuates between users dramatically. Some say it is the best and some say they lose 10 % of the battery in under an hour. (and let me be clear, I wasn't madly using the phone... it would go dead at 100% charge overnight in sleep) I unfortunately was one of the later and that was upsetting because I liked the effort and result of the darchdroid ROM.
I went back to the PureHero, no sense UI, but not an AOSP like darch is. Still pretty good imo.
Another vote for DarchDroid
DarchDroid 2.7 is nothing short of amazing.
I haven't calibrated my battery since I started using it, I probably will this weekend, but I'm experiencing average battery performance. 12-16 hours with mod to light use.
Why would you have to calibrate your battery after flashing Darchdroid? Just curious.
I mean, I calibrated my battery months ago, but didn't really notice any change. What is it about this ROM that would make it produce such drastic changes in battery life? I guess I just don't get it.

How much root is too much?

I've been enjoying the Froyo ROM extravaganza since the .3 releases went out a while back. This board a great resource for customizing the EVO and the people here are terribly smart (Flipz, Netarchy, Cyan, et.al).
However, with the sheer volume of ROM releases coming out lately, I found myself installing a new ROM before I went to bed at night, doing it again at breakfast, maybe another time while waiting in line to get food on my lunch break and the list goes on.
For me, too much of a good thing was, well, too much. I ended up carrying my old Blackberry Bold2 for calls because the HTC was likely being rebooted for some reason or another.
From my perspective, I was using the phone as a test bed more than for the reason I purchased it... as smart phone
This morning, I decided to revert to stock and install the 2.2 OTA. No more fun for me, at least for a while.
I'm not sure why I'm posting this other than to say this board is insanely addictive. Good work from all the contributors, but watch yourself. You can spend more time tweaking the device than actually using it.
Good luck to all and I'll be watching for the 2.2 root, but take your time. I've got some work to do!
I was doing the same. But really, that's what makes it so fun. I do however, keep a nandroid backup of my daily driver just to make playing with new roms even easier
Your right but I'm addicted to flashing also....
So am I. I think I am heading back to stock for now. Too much too fast..
P.S. - We sound like babies.
He's on that crack... Be glad you aren't using a ROM with nightlies on ROM Manager!
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Dang dude, I hope you don't carry any credit cards.
ZoinksS2k said:
I've been enjoying the Froyo ROM extravaganza since the .3 releases went out a while back. This board a great resource for customizing the EVO and the people here are terribly smart (Flipz, Netarchy, Cyan, et.al).
However, with the sheer volume of ROM releases coming out lately, I found myself installing a new ROM before I went to bed at night, doing it again at breakfast, maybe another time while waiting in line to get food on my lunch break and the list goes on.
For me, too much of a good thing was, well, too much. I ended up carrying my old Blackberry Bold2 for calls because the HTC was likely being rebooted for some reason or another.
From my perspective, I was using the phone as a test bed more than for the reason I purchased it... as smart phone
This morning, I decided to revert to stock and install the 2.2 OTA. No more fun for me, at least for a while.
I'm not sure why I'm posting this other than to say this board is insanely addictive. Good work from all the contributors, but watch yourself. You can spend more time tweaking the device than actually using it.
Good luck to all and I'll be watching for the 2.2 root, but take your time. I've got some work to do!
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oh dude, i totally know what you're saying. i get my nightly hits with cm6... it's just too addicting. i flash at night, test during the day, show off in the afternoon, play with it more in the evening, flash at night, rinse and repeat.
LOL, your story is so true! I couldn't believe how addictive flashing is until I read this thread. At first I thought it was just me and my addiction, well, what do you know?!!! lol.
One thing though. Never ever in a million would I go back to stock and possibly loose root for god knows how long, but that just me.
Good luck to you my friend and hope you'll be back in this flashing game shortly.
Hi. My name is Nathan...and I'm a flashaholic.
ZoinksS2k said:
This morning, I decided to revert to stock and install the 2.2 OTA. No more fun for me, at least for a while.
I'm not sure why I'm posting this other than to say this board is insanely addictive. Good work from all the contributors, but watch yourself. You can spend more time tweaking the device than actually using it.
Good luck to all and I'll be watching for the 2.2 root, but take your time. I've got some work to do!
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I totally understand. I did the same thing as you. I just installed a slightly modified 2.2 OTA that gets 45mflops and 3 days of standby. If you're going to quit now, at least flash to this for your daily:
http://tiny.cc/7mteq
seventyfive said:
I totally understand. I did the same thing as you. I just installed a slightly modified 2.2 OTA that gets 45mflops and 3 days of standby. If you're going to quit now, at least flash to this for your daily:
http://tiny.cc/7mteq
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Ah, touché.
seventyfive said:
I totally understand. I did the same thing as you. I just installed a slightly modified 2.2 OTA that gets 45mflops and 3 days of standby. If you're going to quit now, at least flash to this for your daily:
http://tiny.cc/7mteq
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Tried it but can't load the Rickrolled app from the market
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Tried it but can't load the Rickrolled app from the market
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In all seriousness i was going crazy too and my gf was going to murder me. I'm using netarchy's rom (burnt droid) which is basically just a stripped down OTA with a modified dalvik. I've been on this single rom for a record 5 days and i'm very happy with it. I will need to see some pretty convincing evidence before i move to something else.
Ah it does get addicting...
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I have to say that I too was starting to feel like an addict..
However, a strange bit of luck changed my habits.. I normally plug my evo in to charge every night before sleeping.. and unplug in the morning.. normally around 8 hours of charging, even when the phone really doesn't need a charge..
So the other night I didn't plug it in (the phone was at pretty close to 100% when I went to bed) and 10 hours later (nothing but cell stand by) it dropped less than 10%..
This was using AVA's V3A and SetCpu with a profile that includes screen off : set cpu 245mhz.
So the next day I got up and was pretty surprised, left the charger off and made it throughout most of the day of light usage with awesome results.. It occurred to me, what else do I need? Why swap for another ROM.. I got everything I need.. 4g, Camera, BT etc.. and awesome battery..
Now the only thing that will make me change is if AVA's evolution V10 comes out.. then I might pick up the ROM pipe and take another hit.
ROM's is about getting a near perfect experience.. sooner or later we're gonna hit as good as its going to get the question is when will that happen? For me? I'm pretty damn close..
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Hi. My name is Nathan...and I'm a flashaholic.
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LOL Classic! I'm right there with you. See you at the meeting.
I decided to stick with EViO from Calkulin for at least a month and resist the urge to try every new thing that pops up. One major upside to sticking with one ROM, stock or otherwise is increased battery life. Definite improvement having stuck with one ROM for the past five days. It gives your EVO a chance to calibrate the battery properly and the consistency helps no doubt about it. I've seen about a 12-13% gain simply by wiping the stats, cycling a couple of times and then just using the phone.
I know, novel concept, actually using the phone. I was really getting sick of all the posts about the 59 and 64 and 120,000 hour stand-by times. That's like bragging about how long your new Ferrari can sit in the driveway before all the gas evaporates. Ooh, ahh.
I'd rather see how far I can get pushing my EVO to the limit. How much real world use can I get out of a charge. 5-6 hours? That's about what I got on my last six Blackberries. 7? That's what I pulled on my jailbroken iPharce. If I can grab 15.25 hours like I did the last charge, I am ecstatic AND I get to actually enjoy my beast of a phone.
Plus squeezing every last drop of juice out of this thing every few days gives me a replacement fix for my new ROM jonze!
seventyfive said:
I totally understand. I did the same thing as you. I just installed a slightly modified 2.2 OTA that gets 45mflops and 3 days of standby. If you're going to quit now, at least flash to this for your daily:
http://tiny.cc/7mteq
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Dammit! I got suckered. Tucking in my denim shirt as I type this. Very nice move.
Ahhh, I was in the same boat as you guys......until I found the love of my life, and I forgot about all things and focused all of my attention on her. We've been together for only a week or so, but I think we may be in it for the long run. Her name? Oh, it's Baked Snack.
I will say though, that I have done some things that I'm not ashamed of. My ex, Cyanogenmod 6, just popped back into my life randomly one day. I don't know what it is, but she gets even more attractive every single day. I just couldn't resist my urges, and, well, you know what I did. I just don't know what I'd do without them both. The choices!!!!!
Edit: Oh, and did everybody see the google press release for Gingerbread a few hours ago? Check it out here.

Going to install Fresh 3.2.0.0

Hi all,
I'm going to install fresh's 3.2.0.0 for my EVO. I'm wondering if someone can confirm the steps below:
(currently rooted 2.1)
Backup via titanium
Nandroid Backup
Clear Cache(s)
Add Fresh3.2.0.0.zip from root of SD Card
download Titanium and reload my backup
I've done this with CM and it works great, but I don't understand the signed/unsigned portion and want to make sure I understand the steps for this ROM.
Thanks in advance
That's just about the gist of it, only thing you didn't specify is you will want to be sure and wipe data along with cache and dalvik
cool, thanks for the quick reply!
Any idea how many people experience slow data rates with 3.2.0.0? That's my only concern at this point. Everything else seems legit.
I have been using it for the past two days.great battery life so far.I put it on my wifes phone today and think it is best to reinstall the apps from scratch rather than use titanium.I has some issues with using the backed up data.
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I have been using it for the past two days.great battery life so far.I put it on my wifes phone today and think it is best to reinstall the apps from scratch rather than use titanium.I has some issues with using the backed up data.
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I installed it yesterday while at work. This morning I unplugged at 6:30 and by 7:30 I was down to 67%. I immediately restored back to Evio and can't decide if I should try it again or not.
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I installed it yesterday while at work. This morning I unplugged at 6:30 and by 7:30 I was down to 67%. I immediately restored back to Evio and can't decide if I should try it again or not.
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That's not the rom, it's something on your end. I get an average of 14-20 hours with the 2.2 fresh roms.
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That's not the rom, it's something on your end. I get an average of 14-20 hours with the 2.2 fresh roms.
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Thanks for the vote of confidence....all I did was install it. No apps, no tweaking, nothing.
You do know we're talking about Fresh 3.2 right? As in the donation only rom? Not 3.1.0.2 which I get just fine battery life out of.
It's a completely different kernal then the 3.1's. I have no justification for it, all I know is I had nothing on my phone, took a freaking shower and got my kids ready, got in my car and looked down to see the drain.
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Thanks for the vote of confidence....all I did was install it. No apps, no tweaking, nothing.
You do know we're talking about Fresh 3.2 right? As in the donation only rom? Not 3.1.0.2 which I get just fine battery life out of.
It's a completely different kernal then the 3.1's. I have no justification for it, all I know is I had nothing on my phone, took a freaking shower and got my kids ready, got in my car and looked down to see the drain.
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Ah well, I've never used those kernels. I always use netarchy. So, maybe I'm talking out of my ass but I'd still wager, a rewipe and reinstall might make a difference. I've just never had an issue with his Roms and it would shock me if he fell off like that all of a sudden.
OP, I haven't tried any of flipz's work on the EVO so I can't speak about it from experience.
All I can say is after much consideration I have officially become a fan of cyanogenmod. I do a lot of tweaking to get things the way I like but it's well worth the time and effort.
To anyone who doesn't get great battery life there are ways to identify rogue apps, don't want to derail the thread, but if you are sure you don't have any apps keeping your phone awake 100% of the time, and you're not spending a lot of "time without signal" and you still aren't getting great battery life then please do yourself the favor of using Juice Defender. I was reluctant to jump on the bandwagon but WOW. I consistent get 26+ hours on one charge. It basically DRASTICALLY reduces sleep time battery drain, which gives you more up time usage and lengthens the window of time before you have to recharge, and it does this without impacting performance. I'm sorry this sounds like a commercial for Latedroid but I'm just so amazed I can't help but mention it..
wuclan48 said:
Ah well, I've never used those kernels. I always use netarchy. So, maybe I'm talking out of my ass but I'd still wager, a rewipe and reinstall might make a difference. I've just never had an issue with his Roms and it would shock me if he fell off like that all of a sudden.
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No, and I don't think he fell off either. He and his testers are getting day and a half batteries off the new Kernal. Like I said, I have no explanation, and it was not meant as a reason not to check it out.
I have no idea why, but my phone has seemed to be a quick battery drainer no matter what since the beginning. Should I be blaming my 002 build? Maybe.
Pao23 said:
I have no idea why, but my phone has seemed to be a quick battery drainer no matter what since the beginning. Should I be blaming my 002 build? Maybe.
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Mine too, but i use it heavily... Leaving IM and such running etc.... But heres the thing, you should AT LEAST be able to get a very very good battery life when you are NOT using it.
If you can't charge your phone the night before, leave it unplugged overnight, and still have 85-95% in the morning, something is busted and you need to uber-wipe...or start running logs and figure out what is doing it....Make sure you have the latest recovery agent too, the earlier ones don't seem to be wiping cache correctly (leading to pri never getting updated, but that's for a different thread).
Really the reason people are excited about this rom/kernel is because battery drains slower even when you ARE using it. Light usage (not having an IM client running all the time) will yield you a solid day on this rom no question.
I got 12 hours of fairly heavy use yesterday and had about 15% left. I was using the latest Fresh 2.1 before with fresh-toast. I found with the 2.1 ROM and kernel, that ATK helped with battery life. I was also using Setcpu and slowing the processor down as the battery ran down.
With 3.2.0.0, I am not using ATK or Setcpu and got good battery life. I did a clean install of all apps and settings when I loaded the ROM. I think that using Titanium caused problems as some of the apps changed and the data that was saved did not play nicely with the updated apps.
I tried a rush job on my wife's phone and used the Titanium backup but ended up reinstalling everything cleanly on her phone because it was acting flaky.
Most of the time, when I have had really fast battery use, it is because some app is acting up and using a lot of CPU cycles or radio. I try to limit the number of apps on the phone to what I actually use to avoid problems.
you should be fine with that, but since it is a new release, i would limit the amount of backups you restore.
Liamfm said:
Hi all,
I'm going to install fresh's 3.2.0.0 for my EVO. I'm wondering if someone can confirm the steps below:
(currently rooted 2.1)
Backup via titanium
Nandroid Backup
Clear Cache(s)
Add Fresh3.2.0.0.zip from root of SD Card
download Titanium and reload my backup
I've done this with CM and it works great, but I don't understand the signed/unsigned portion and want to make sure I understand the steps for this ROM.
Thanks in advance
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OP, let me know if Titanium Backup works for you. It wouldn't work at all for me on Fresh 3.2.0.0. I just went back to CM6.
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OP, let me know if Titanium Backup works for you. It wouldn't work at all for me on Fresh 3.2.0.0. I just went back to CM6.
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I used titanium after flashing 3.2 and had no problems. I only restore apps though, not data.
3.2 working great here, i'm at 14h 37m today with moderate usage and I leave FB, Twitter, News, Google etc... on to sync and also leave 4g on all day because I seem to be finding 4g all over the place lately. No complaints at all.
I have to say that I'm getting incredible battery life with this new ROM, and Pandora is back to sounding great too.
I had no problems with Titanium BK. I restored apps and data. Facebook was the only one I found that didn't come back. Had to d/l a version from market.
I was fully charged last night. Obviously it's just been sitting overnight, but I have news, FB, Twitter, and 2 mail programs on push. I'm at 50% at 12h 18m since unplugged.
So far great battery life!
Pao23 said:
I installed it yesterday while at work. This morning I unplugged at 6:30 and by 7:30 I was down to 67%. I immediately restored back to Evio and can't decide if I should try it again or not.
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Yes you should. The new kernel on Fresh has been yielding the best battery life out there, period. It's pretty unanimous.
those that have issues with Titanium back up I have posted several times what i do i have personally NEVER had an issue using it.
first if you are moving from an ASOP to sense or vice versus or from a 2.1 to sense and vice versus .. do not restore all system settings. I ussually dont recomend restoring all system settings unless you are restoring to the same rom.
you can normally restore apps + apps data though with out to many problems (the exception is setcpu if you have a kernel with diffrent oc settings).
So what i normally do is d a batch install all apps + data. I go in and uncheck setcpu. Restore all the apps. once that is finished i go to the back up and restore tab and go down and have it restore set cpu with out app data so that it will re-detect. i also have it restore my contacts and sms info from the settings files.
this will get you all your apps backed up contacts known wifi points and sms back with data. this procedure is a little more difficult then simply a single batch restore but it is much faster then reinstalling all apps manually or losing app data for those apps that need it.
sorry to simi hijack the thread but thought i would share my method. again i have not once had an issue using this method i also flash roms a LOT in my opinion.

Is it just me?

So is it just me or have you guys noticed significantly lower battery life ever since froyo came out a couple months back. I mean it's not terrible, but it's not nearly as good as pre-froyo.
I've tried numerous roms and kernels, did all the bullsht with my battery and what not, and although the results vary and some rom/kernel variations are better than others (The battery calibration never worked for me, i tried both versions and I am fully convinced that it was just used by HTC to get all the complainers off there back. People have supposedly had results from calibrating there batteries but according to the facts of how batteries work, there really isn't a need to calibrate...but thats beside my point lol, just a little rant.)
ANYWAYS, back to what I was saying... I remember when I was on DamageControls 2.1 roms and how freaking awesome my battery life and performance was, but the moment I upgraded to froyo it's just never been the same again....
Am I the only one experiencing this? It could very well be my mind playing tricks on me, but I highly doubt that...
I'm currently on Myns newest rom and I went a day with the stock HTC kernel, but that was pretty bad so I just now flashed Zyg's kernel...
What rom/kernel variations are working the best for you guys. And before you go on giving me sht about "our phones are different so one rom may be better on mine than yours." or whatever, I really don't care.
Just let me know what's been working best for you.
Have you tried SBC kernels?
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Nooo way man, my battery life pretty much doubled since froyo came out. I'm running MIUI and I can seriously go almost 2 days without charging my phone with a stock battery. Even when I was running Fresh I was getting awesome battery life.
I've tried one SBC kernel a couple weeks ago when i was using Calks rom and I didn't see too great of battery life on that either...
There's probably something that i'm missing, because I have heard of people getting really good battery life. I haven't really messed around with my EVO in a while... I'll try tweaking some things and see how that goes...

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