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Blackberry/Treo-like numbers in Wizard keyboard

I'm sure the question has been asked 10,000,000 times already, but neither the search function nor a general Google are returning a solution.
I love my 8125, really I do, all except for numeric entry, which I do just often enough to hate the horizontal number arrangement.
Someone somewhere has to have written a little hack to add a numbers mode. Does anybody here happen to know who and where?

I dont have a Wizard but let me guess..
The easier way is to use your on screen keypad input. Im not sure how you are using your phone, probably landscape, but if you were to use potrait mode, the on screen keypad is really good.

That really isn't very practical in my case. I need to use the hardware buttons. I bought a Wizard because it had a real keyboard, it just isn't very good for numbers.

Is this really something that cannot be done? I guess the TyTn does it right from the pictures, but my Wizard is like three weeks old, and I really am having a very hard time entering numbers here.
You can't enter numbers on the onscreen keypad if you can't see it. The assumption made by MobileSpeak Pocket is that if you have a lot of data entry to do that you will buy a Bluetooth keyboard. I bought my Wizard so I wouldn't need to carry one.

i been tryin to find this as well.. similar to the hermes numeric layout. i would like the fact that i can answer and end phone calls by using the sliding keyboard. but that not happening on our wizard yet.
anyway i kinda hav a partial solution to what you want which i hav implemented at the moment.
you need both software vito quick contact (latest) and pqzII wizard version. first use the code menu in pqzII to map ur alt + Y U I as 1 2 3 and H J K as 4 5 6 and so on. and alt+space as return.
now to dial normal numeric number jus open up vito quick contact hold ur alt button to toggle alt button and press those buttons above and press space twice to dial.
it may not be convenient but once u get the hang of it you can even dial with your eyes close literaly. well say like when you are driving you can dial it and use bluetooth headset or handsfree speaker. i know you all gonna say voice dial is better. but i dreaded voicedial and physical button never fails me.
just hopes some one will come out with the sliding answering method.

Okay, I am a little confused here (and maybe this is just PQII and maybe it's not..)
The keyboard has a shift and a dot. In addition to these, Mobile Speak Pocket remaps hardware buttons as Control, Alt, Shift, and Tab. I wonder if these are the same buttons that PQII uses. In the event that they are, PQII will do exactly what I want sinze Alt is sticky in MSP.
Ideally though, I want to basically change the layout of the symbols when you press the dot, and just use double-dot to put my phone into the appropriate mode.

uummm i uses caps/shift for my alt button in pqzII, i dun use control. maybe thats why it didnt work. u can try the windows key or the ok key if other software remaps your cap/shift and dot button.
remember this can only work in vito quick contact as the our normal dialer cant detect those other symbols button. basically after i play around with the wizard too much =P, i found out that it is in the double dot format when you are in dialer but pressing the symbols wont work other than the normal numbers and * and #. so thats why you need vito quick contact

Athena keyboard

How is the keyboard tactile feedback? Can you type without quickly getting your fingers tired? Is it backlit?

Are number keys intelligent
unlike Jasjar/ Universal I do not see any dedicated number keys at the top row. Are the number keys intelligent to automatically identify number fields or do I have to press some function or blue key etc to activate numbers?

manu407 said:
How is the keyboard tactile feedback? Can you type without quickly getting your fingers tired? Is it backlit?
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No backlit

Heijdemann said:
No backlit
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Does it mean don't have light on keyboard? How to type in the dark?

cornelius said:
Does it mean don't have light on keyboard? How to type in the dark?
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That's very surprising...Not backlit!?!? However, when you consider that it has a whopping 5" screen glaring down onto the keyboard, you may also see that there is no point in backlighting the keys.

After using the keyboard, I can say that not having backlit is not an issue at all as there is already a hugh torchlight (the screen) shinning on it. The feel and feedback is also acceptable. The biggest weakness is the way keys are set out.
1. there should be a row of number key in addition to the keypad style layout.
2. the numeric keypad should have followed the computer and calculator style (with 7 8 9 on top and 123 at the bottom) instead of mobile phone format (where 123 is on top and 789 is at the bottom). The commonly used spreadsheet/calculator symbols such as + - * / ( ) are normally used at the sakme time. The should be activated by the same special function key. The should be laid out to be as logically as possible rather than all over the place as currently the case.
3. The most common punctuation marks should be accessable without having to first press shift or special function key abd should be tyoed by the right hand. All other punctuation marks and special characters should have been activated in the sane way as capital letters.i.e. via the shift key. In other word, when the shift key is pressed, we should be able to access all symbols and capital letters. It is radiculos to have to keep switching between pressing the shift key and special function key now.
4. the letter Z must go directly below A to have any chance of fast typing. All keyboards are done that way except this one.
In my next posting, I'll show my preferred keyboard layout.

This might help. Lots of opinions on the keyboard, and some suggestions on alternatives.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303399

Cursor Madness...

I have a question on how to make this phone better... I've never used the iPhone really, other than to jailbreak it for my fiancee. Now that I have the Vibrant, I noticed ridiculously difficult it is to place your cursor in a particular spot. You can't use a stylus, there's no "magnifying glass" like the iPhone has, and there are no arrow buttons on the on-screen keyboard (as there was on my HTC Touch Pro 2). Basically, it'll take me 5-6 taps (or more) to get the cursor where I want it.
Is there any app or hack that can fix this?

If you are using samsung keyboard, then keep pressing the "123" button until more controls shows up, theres cursor control.

You can flash or wait for froyo release it comes with a cursor

Thanks to both of you. The 123 option is a PITA, but it's something. Good to know that Froyo is gonna have a cursor. Thank goodness....

Flapjack said:
Thanks to both of you. The 123 option is a PITA, but it's something. Good to know that Froyo is gonna have a cursor. Thank goodness....
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I couldn't the 123 option to work. When I press the 123 button, I get four pages of symbols... no directional cursor movements. What am I doing wrong?

If you are using the Swype keyboard, drag your finger from the Swype info button (bottom left corner) to the SYM key (next one to the right). Several cursor control options there, plus a few other handy items.
Also, if you didn't know, dragging from the Swype info button to the "F" key will switch the keyboard into a number keypad.

Flapjack said:
I couldn't the 123 option to work. When I press the 123 button, I get four pages of symbols... no directional cursor movements. What am I doing wrong?
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You need to hold 123, not just click it.

BronzedDroid said:
You need to hold 123, not just click it.
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Awesome. Thanks for the help. It's exactly what I needed. Will hold me off until Froyo.

Alternativelly you can use the HTC_IME (which is the HTC keyboard) and set the volume buttons to work as up and down. Pretty handy when you want the cursor to skip a few characters. Though indeed the lack of cursor buttons always visible on the keyboard is kind of irritating especially if you come from an HTC.

stormrain said:
Alternativelly you can use the HTC_IME (which is the HTC keyboard) and set the volume buttons to work as up and down. Pretty handy when you want the cursor to skip a few characters. Though indeed the lack of cursor buttons always visible on the keyboard is kind of irritating especially if you come from an HTC.
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I actually went through the process of installing the HTC keyboard, which I loved on my Touch Pro 2. It was laggy as hell and basically unusable. I also did not notice any directional arrows.
I've been meaning to try that keyboard again, since I did the one-touch lag fix. I'll do that right now.
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I can't find the option to use the volume buttons to move the cursor. It's also nowhere near as fast as the Samsung keyboard. Not sure why, but I have to seriously slow down my typing to get it to recognize each key press individually. I was hoping it would be better once I did the lag fix. I guess it's a separate issue...

Flapjack said:
I actually went through the process of installing the HTC keyboard, which I loved on my Touch Pro 2. It was laggy as hell and basically unusable. I also did not notice any directional arrows.
I've been meaning to try that keyboard again, since I did the one-touch lag fix. I'll do that right now.
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I can't find the option to use the volume buttons to move the cursor. It's also nowhere near as fast as the Samsung keyboard. Not sure why, but I have to seriously slow down my typing to get it to recognize each key press individually. I was hoping it would be better once I did the lag fix. I guess it's a separate issue...
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Hmmm I do not have any lag issues with the keyboard.
Have you tried Calibrating it? That option is in Settings (within the program, activated by long pressing the language toggle key)>Text Input>Calibration tool.
Unfortunatelly, indeed, there are no directional arrows in the layout.
The option to set the volume buttons is in Settings (again, within the keyboard itself)>User Interface>Volume Keys.
EDIT: I don't really have any opinion about the default samsung keyboard as it does not support my language (go figure lol) so I have never used it.

[Q] HTC 'Phone Pad' Keyboard

Hello
The QWERTY keyboard has a 'minimise' button to make the keyboard dissappear. The 'Phone Pad' does not... anyone know why, and whether there's any way of acheiving the same result...?
Thanks

When I used to use the HTC_IME mod keyboard on my hero, it didn't have the button to get rid of the keyboard either, but you could use the back key to get rid of it. Maybe this will work?

I have it on my phone ?
Where is it you don`t have it ?

I've used 3 different types of keyboards and finally settled on SlideIT and holding the "Menu" button usually minimizes the keyboard.

Press the back arrow key to minimise the phone keypad

Spock with the 'back' button is that, in some apps (such as Android Market), it takes you back to the previous page rather than just minimizing the keyboard. A small but annoying fault...

I like the Phone Keypad but it doesn't always offer T9. I don't understand why it's available in Messaging but not in the browser. I don't get it.

How much do you use the slide out keyboard?

So I've had mine for a few weeks now, and I can still count the number of times I've used the physical keyboard on one hand lol. I'm not even sure why. It's fine when I use it, but the onscreen one is just -so- fast and responsive. I can type much much faster with the onscreen one.
On the flip side I like that it's there just in case I need it for some reason (needing to type something really specific, etc).
But yeah, how much do you use it?

anything more than a few words and i whip out the physical board. even if the screen view is locked to portrait.

weatherx said:
anything more than a few words and i whip out the physical board. even if the screen view is locked to portrait.
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same here, mainly because for some reason the fact that my phone has a smiley button is hilarious to me. Also, just a little fun fact, the keyboard backlight will turn on when you click on an area to enter text, but otherwise stays off. Nifty, ehhh?

I use my keyboard A LOT. I never entered text using the on screen keyboard, that is, until my screen light decided to start cutting off whenever I slid it out. Now I have to use the on screen.

Me too... I use it almost every day. Just can't seem to get the hang of the soft keyboard.

I use it every day, almost every single time i type something. it is just faster and more accurate.

Anything more than 5 words and I use the keyboard
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i use my often as well for sms, sometime use voice to sms too, no cutout

Anyone care to tell me how to type a star (*) with the hard keyboard? I don't seem to find it anywhere....
Thanks

resol341 said:
Anyone care to tell me how to type a star (*) with the hard keyboard? I don't seem to find it anywhere....
Thanks
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You have to use the symbol key and then touch the right arrow key on the onscreen keyboard that pops up to get to it - pretty much the same way you would with the onscreen keyboard (&123 key then right arrow)
By the way, in case some don't know this, you can enter the blue (fn) function characters just by holding the physical key just a bit longer. Saves us from having to fiddle with the fn button everytime.

cmphone said:
You have to use the symbol key and then touch the right arrow key on the onscreen keyboard that pops up to get to it - pretty much the same way you would with the onscreen keyboard (&123 key then right arrow)
By the way, in case some don't know this, you can enter the blue (fn) function characters just by holding the physical key just a bit longer. Saves us from having to fiddle with the fn button everytime.
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Thanks a lot!
Best!

I also found something today. Long pressing the sym can switch input method. In my case, I can switch between English and Chinese. I might just be too retarded to find out earlier ~