How is the keyboard tactile feedback? Can you type without quickly getting your fingers tired? Is it backlit?
Are number keys intelligent
unlike Jasjar/ Universal I do not see any dedicated number keys at the top row. Are the number keys intelligent to automatically identify number fields or do I have to press some function or blue key etc to activate numbers?
manu407 said:
How is the keyboard tactile feedback? Can you type without quickly getting your fingers tired? Is it backlit?
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No backlit
Heijdemann said:
No backlit
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Does it mean don't have light on keyboard? How to type in the dark?
cornelius said:
Does it mean don't have light on keyboard? How to type in the dark?
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That's very surprising...Not backlit!?!? However, when you consider that it has a whopping 5" screen glaring down onto the keyboard, you may also see that there is no point in backlighting the keys.
After using the keyboard, I can say that not having backlit is not an issue at all as there is already a hugh torchlight (the screen) shinning on it. The feel and feedback is also acceptable. The biggest weakness is the way keys are set out.
1. there should be a row of number key in addition to the keypad style layout.
2. the numeric keypad should have followed the computer and calculator style (with 7 8 9 on top and 123 at the bottom) instead of mobile phone format (where 123 is on top and 789 is at the bottom). The commonly used spreadsheet/calculator symbols such as + - * / ( ) are normally used at the sakme time. The should be activated by the same special function key. The should be laid out to be as logically as possible rather than all over the place as currently the case.
3. The most common punctuation marks should be accessable without having to first press shift or special function key abd should be tyoed by the right hand. All other punctuation marks and special characters should have been activated in the sane way as capital letters.i.e. via the shift key. In other word, when the shift key is pressed, we should be able to access all symbols and capital letters. It is radiculos to have to keep switching between pressing the shift key and special function key now.
4. the letter Z must go directly below A to have any chance of fast typing. All keyboards are done that way except this one.
In my next posting, I'll show my preferred keyboard layout.
This might help. Lots of opinions on the keyboard, and some suggestions on alternatives.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303399
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I am looking for a better way of one handed use. I would wonder pretty much if not someone else has thought about that as well...
Isn't there an input method that works by just using the jog dial? I mean something like:
UP - change current letter to next one (so change from "a" to "b", "c", ...)
DOWN - just vice-versa
RIGHT - add one character
LEFT delete one character
FITE - enter
Why I want that? To have a method to select a contact for a call by just using one hand in the car...
Any suggestions?
O god no
Better would be :
Keyboard on-screen, use the jog-button to move a 'cursor' over the screen. for example a key on the keyboard turns blue if the cursor is on top. Press the jog-button to select...
then you can move around on the keyboard and 'tap' key's onehanded..
ImagiNet Finger Clix will help you
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=10595
jpiek said:
Better would be :
Keyboard on-screen, use the jog-button to move a 'cursor' over the screen. for example a key on the keyboard turns blue if the cursor is on top. Press the jog-button to select...
then you can move around on the keyboard and 'tap' key's onehanded..
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Mate, I like your thinking, but how would you i.e. delete a digit if you tyoed the wrong key then?
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jpiek said:
Better would be :
Keyboard on-screen, use the jog-button to move a 'cursor' over the screen. for example a key on the keyboard turns blue if the cursor is on top. Press the jog-button to select...
then you can move around on the keyboard and 'tap' key's onehanded..
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Mate, I like your thinking, but how would you i.e. delete a digit if you tyoed the wrong key then?
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Like you normally do with the stylus on the keyboard: With the backspace key
It's just alike typeing on the keyboard with the stylus, the only thing you cant't do is tap 'start' or 'ok'
Finger Clix is FREE to Imate users BTW..... www.clubimate.com to download.
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farnold said:
jpiek said:
Better would be :
Keyboard on-screen, use the jog-button to move a 'cursor' over the screen. for example a key on the keyboard turns blue if the cursor is on top. Press the jog-button to select...
then you can move around on the keyboard and 'tap' key's onehanded..
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Mate, I like your thinking, but how would you i.e. delete a digit if you tyoed the wrong key then?
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Like you normally do with the stylus on the keyboard: With the backspace key
It's just alike typeing on the keyboard with the stylus, the only thing you cant't do is tap 'start' or 'ok'
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Hehe, Johan, I think you missed my point, mate I want to use only my left hand while driving or walking... no stylus possible then...
I find it surprising that I seem to identify this as a problem while you all seem to be pretty happy the way you do it... am I missing something there?
Phone Plus
Check out Phone Plus:
http://www5.domaindlx.com/phoneplus/features.htm
Thanks, Jargon. I saw that and I have to admit it's probably the one coming closest to what I am looking for.
New and improved PhonePlus! version.
Much faster, less memory uses, more skins, more connectivity features, 2003 enabled, and much much more...
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Might require some waiting for the XDA II version though
farnold said:
jpiek said:
farnold said:
Mate, I like your thinking, but how would you i.e. delete a digit if you tyoed the wrong key then?
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Like you normally do with the stylus on the keyboard: With the backspace key
It's just alike typeing on the keyboard with the stylus, the only thing you cant't do is tap 'start' or 'ok'
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Hehe, Johan, I think you missed my point, mate I want to use only my left hand while driving or walking... no stylus possible then...
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Read again... just go with the jog-button to the backspace key and press the jog-button...
OK, Johan, you're right there, mate! I installed it and played a bit with it. Yes, I can use it with just one hand, but puh... that browsing through contacts is not really a solution for me. I've got around 3,000 contacts in Outlook and they only way to use T9 is - again - either the fingers on the screen or the pen which both require more than just one hand. I was hoping I could actuallu select the keys via d-pad...
i was wondering... as a user of a vista tablet i see that the use of the onscreen vista input panel is very very convenient.
i give that ease of use to one perticular and simple feature making the button you pressed last stay lit until you press the next button and also (but far less improtant) the lack of space between the keys...
this "last word highlighting allows you to type without looking at text after each letter to verify that you indeed pressed the right letter or even pressed one at all, and greatly improves the input speed.. i manage to write on my tablet keyboard almost as fast as a hardware one...
so if anyone knows of a keyboard that does that or a registry key that can allow any of the existing keyboard out there to do this, i believe will make a great contribution to mankind... or at least the average virtual keyboard user...
I have a question on how to make this phone better... I've never used the iPhone really, other than to jailbreak it for my fiancee. Now that I have the Vibrant, I noticed ridiculously difficult it is to place your cursor in a particular spot. You can't use a stylus, there's no "magnifying glass" like the iPhone has, and there are no arrow buttons on the on-screen keyboard (as there was on my HTC Touch Pro 2). Basically, it'll take me 5-6 taps (or more) to get the cursor where I want it.
Is there any app or hack that can fix this?
If you are using samsung keyboard, then keep pressing the "123" button until more controls shows up, theres cursor control.
You can flash or wait for froyo release it comes with a cursor
Thanks to both of you. The 123 option is a PITA, but it's something. Good to know that Froyo is gonna have a cursor. Thank goodness....
Flapjack said:
Thanks to both of you. The 123 option is a PITA, but it's something. Good to know that Froyo is gonna have a cursor. Thank goodness....
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I couldn't the 123 option to work. When I press the 123 button, I get four pages of symbols... no directional cursor movements. What am I doing wrong?
If you are using the Swype keyboard, drag your finger from the Swype info button (bottom left corner) to the SYM key (next one to the right). Several cursor control options there, plus a few other handy items.
Also, if you didn't know, dragging from the Swype info button to the "F" key will switch the keyboard into a number keypad.
Flapjack said:
I couldn't the 123 option to work. When I press the 123 button, I get four pages of symbols... no directional cursor movements. What am I doing wrong?
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You need to hold 123, not just click it.
BronzedDroid said:
You need to hold 123, not just click it.
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Awesome. Thanks for the help. It's exactly what I needed. Will hold me off until Froyo.
Alternativelly you can use the HTC_IME (which is the HTC keyboard) and set the volume buttons to work as up and down. Pretty handy when you want the cursor to skip a few characters. Though indeed the lack of cursor buttons always visible on the keyboard is kind of irritating especially if you come from an HTC.
stormrain said:
Alternativelly you can use the HTC_IME (which is the HTC keyboard) and set the volume buttons to work as up and down. Pretty handy when you want the cursor to skip a few characters. Though indeed the lack of cursor buttons always visible on the keyboard is kind of irritating especially if you come from an HTC.
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I actually went through the process of installing the HTC keyboard, which I loved on my Touch Pro 2. It was laggy as hell and basically unusable. I also did not notice any directional arrows.
I've been meaning to try that keyboard again, since I did the one-touch lag fix. I'll do that right now.
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I can't find the option to use the volume buttons to move the cursor. It's also nowhere near as fast as the Samsung keyboard. Not sure why, but I have to seriously slow down my typing to get it to recognize each key press individually. I was hoping it would be better once I did the lag fix. I guess it's a separate issue...
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I actually went through the process of installing the HTC keyboard, which I loved on my Touch Pro 2. It was laggy as hell and basically unusable. I also did not notice any directional arrows.
I've been meaning to try that keyboard again, since I did the one-touch lag fix. I'll do that right now.
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I can't find the option to use the volume buttons to move the cursor. It's also nowhere near as fast as the Samsung keyboard. Not sure why, but I have to seriously slow down my typing to get it to recognize each key press individually. I was hoping it would be better once I did the lag fix. I guess it's a separate issue...
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Hmmm I do not have any lag issues with the keyboard.
Have you tried Calibrating it? That option is in Settings (within the program, activated by long pressing the language toggle key)>Text Input>Calibration tool.
Unfortunatelly, indeed, there are no directional arrows in the layout.
The option to set the volume buttons is in Settings (again, within the keyboard itself)>User Interface>Volume Keys.
EDIT: I don't really have any opinion about the default samsung keyboard as it does not support my language (go figure lol) so I have never used it.
So I've had mine for a few weeks now, and I can still count the number of times I've used the physical keyboard on one hand lol. I'm not even sure why. It's fine when I use it, but the onscreen one is just -so- fast and responsive. I can type much much faster with the onscreen one.
On the flip side I like that it's there just in case I need it for some reason (needing to type something really specific, etc).
But yeah, how much do you use it?
anything more than a few words and i whip out the physical board. even if the screen view is locked to portrait.
weatherx said:
anything more than a few words and i whip out the physical board. even if the screen view is locked to portrait.
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same here, mainly because for some reason the fact that my phone has a smiley button is hilarious to me. Also, just a little fun fact, the keyboard backlight will turn on when you click on an area to enter text, but otherwise stays off. Nifty, ehhh?
I use my keyboard A LOT. I never entered text using the on screen keyboard, that is, until my screen light decided to start cutting off whenever I slid it out. Now I have to use the on screen.
Me too... I use it almost every day. Just can't seem to get the hang of the soft keyboard.
I use it every day, almost every single time i type something. it is just faster and more accurate.
Anything more than 5 words and I use the keyboard
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i use my often as well for sms, sometime use voice to sms too, no cutout
Anyone care to tell me how to type a star (*) with the hard keyboard? I don't seem to find it anywhere....
Thanks
resol341 said:
Anyone care to tell me how to type a star (*) with the hard keyboard? I don't seem to find it anywhere....
Thanks
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You have to use the symbol key and then touch the right arrow key on the onscreen keyboard that pops up to get to it - pretty much the same way you would with the onscreen keyboard (&123 key then right arrow)
By the way, in case some don't know this, you can enter the blue (fn) function characters just by holding the physical key just a bit longer. Saves us from having to fiddle with the fn button everytime.
cmphone said:
You have to use the symbol key and then touch the right arrow key on the onscreen keyboard that pops up to get to it - pretty much the same way you would with the onscreen keyboard (&123 key then right arrow)
By the way, in case some don't know this, you can enter the blue (fn) function characters just by holding the physical key just a bit longer. Saves us from having to fiddle with the fn button everytime.
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Thanks a lot!
Best!
I also found something today. Long pressing the sym can switch input method. In my case, I can switch between English and Chinese. I might just be too retarded to find out earlier ~
So let me start out by saying I like the default JB keyboard. However it is missing 2 crucial things for me. A tab button and the ability to long press keys. Has there been any modding going on yet for the keyboard?
Long press keys work fine
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pixelchemist said:
Long press keys work fine
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I miss all the extra long-press characters, too. It used to be the top row could be long-pressed for numbers and stuff, and other keys for other symbols. I never use the accents anyway, though I think it is good that Google includes them.
I really like the new keyboard, too. I still use thumb keyboard instead, so I can have escape, tab, page up and page down keys, but I prefer how the default keyboard provides various punctuation. It's easy to get to the - and _ symbols, apostrophe and comma have their own keys, and so on.
The new look is very clean, though.
ldrn said:
I miss all the extra long-press characters, too. It used to be the top row could be long-pressed for numbers and stuff, and other keys for other symbols. I never use the accents anyway, though I think it is good that Google includes them.
I really like the new keyboard, too. I still use thumb keyboard instead, so I can have escape, tab, page up and page down keys, but I prefer how the default keyboard provides various punctuation. It's easy to get to the - and _ symbols, apostrophe and comma have their own keys, and so on.
The new look is very clean, though.
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I'm going to try and use the keyboard from the cm9 rom on the touchpad since it has more options for long press keys and a tab button. Hopefully it installs.
Long press is working great on 4.1.1 keyboard. My question is if there is a way to enable popup on key press. Not only I like that feature but it helps me type also. Thanks!
Hacker's Keyboard from the Play Store will give you either the Gingerbread style keyboard or a full 5 row keyboard.
Both the Gingerbread and 5 row keyboard have the long-press feature on the number keys, with the full set of symbols. It also has popup keys.
The 5 row is a full keyboard with arrow keys, ESC, CTL, ALT, FN keys, etc. Works great in terminal emulator, it's essential with vi.
I use the 4 row Gingerbread in portrait mode and the 5 row in landscape. That's the default, but you can change it.
The only thing I don't like in Hacker's Keyboard is the click sound - it is much louder than the stock click. Probably easy to fix by swapping out a resource or sound file, but I haven't looked.