Blackberry/Treo-like numbers in Wizard keyboard - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

I'm sure the question has been asked 10,000,000 times already, but neither the search function nor a general Google are returning a solution.
I love my 8125, really I do, all except for numeric entry, which I do just often enough to hate the horizontal number arrangement.
Someone somewhere has to have written a little hack to add a numbers mode. Does anybody here happen to know who and where?

I dont have a Wizard but let me guess..
The easier way is to use your on screen keypad input. Im not sure how you are using your phone, probably landscape, but if you were to use potrait mode, the on screen keypad is really good.

That really isn't very practical in my case. I need to use the hardware buttons. I bought a Wizard because it had a real keyboard, it just isn't very good for numbers.

Is this really something that cannot be done? I guess the TyTn does it right from the pictures, but my Wizard is like three weeks old, and I really am having a very hard time entering numbers here.
You can't enter numbers on the onscreen keypad if you can't see it. The assumption made by MobileSpeak Pocket is that if you have a lot of data entry to do that you will buy a Bluetooth keyboard. I bought my Wizard so I wouldn't need to carry one.

i been tryin to find this as well.. similar to the hermes numeric layout. i would like the fact that i can answer and end phone calls by using the sliding keyboard. but that not happening on our wizard yet.
anyway i kinda hav a partial solution to what you want which i hav implemented at the moment.
you need both software vito quick contact (latest) and pqzII wizard version. first use the code menu in pqzII to map ur alt + Y U I as 1 2 3 and H J K as 4 5 6 and so on. and alt+space as return.
now to dial normal numeric number jus open up vito quick contact hold ur alt button to toggle alt button and press those buttons above and press space twice to dial.
it may not be convenient but once u get the hang of it you can even dial with your eyes close literaly. well say like when you are driving you can dial it and use bluetooth headset or handsfree speaker. i know you all gonna say voice dial is better. but i dreaded voicedial and physical button never fails me.
just hopes some one will come out with the sliding answering method.

Okay, I am a little confused here (and maybe this is just PQII and maybe it's not..)
The keyboard has a shift and a dot. In addition to these, Mobile Speak Pocket remaps hardware buttons as Control, Alt, Shift, and Tab. I wonder if these are the same buttons that PQII uses. In the event that they are, PQII will do exactly what I want sinze Alt is sticky in MSP.
Ideally though, I want to basically change the layout of the symbols when you press the dot, and just use double-dot to put my phone into the appropriate mode.

uummm i uses caps/shift for my alt button in pqzII, i dun use control. maybe thats why it didnt work. u can try the windows key or the ok key if other software remaps your cap/shift and dot button.
remember this can only work in vito quick contact as the our normal dialer cant detect those other symbols button. basically after i play around with the wizard too much =P, i found out that it is in the double dot format when you are in dialer but pressing the symbols wont work other than the normal numbers and * and #. so thats why you need vito quick contact

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Do you have the HTC Wizard ? Click here !

Please help a possible future HTC Wizard owner ! I want to be part of the club ! It's as easy as clicking "reply":
I have tried the Treo and I appreciate it's one-handed use.
Since there is no "windows" and "ok" buttons on the HTC Wizard, I assume people will remap them (either to Messages, IExplorer, or the Send button)
Do you feel that you can navigate with one hand without worrying about dropping it, since your thumb is at the bottom instead of the middle ?
If you remapped your buttons, you'd have to click on one button at the top for Start, then slide your thumb back down to select the menu item, then slide your thumb back up to click OK every time you need to close a window... it seems like a work-out !
How do you dial a number you've never dialed before when you can't look at the screen ?
I love the Treo's form factor, but the old OS, lack of multi-tasking, lack of real bluetooth and WiFi are holding me back...
Please enlighten me !
Please help a possible future HTC Wizard owner ! I want to be part of the club ! It's as easy as clicking "reply":
Always room for one more
I have tried the Treo and I appreciate it's one-handed use.
Yup
Since there is no "windows" and "ok" buttons on the HTC Wizard, I assume people will remap them (either to Messages, IExplorer, or the Send button)
I remapped the Voice Button (and set Voice Command to the IE button) and the Comm Manager button to start menu.
Do you feel that you can navigate with one hand without worrying about dropping it, since your thumb is at the bottom instead of the middle ?
I dropped it yesterday because someone bumped into me (fortunately the device survived with only a few scratches), so I don't walk around using it onehanded anymore. I hold it with one hand and push the buttons with the other. no stylus needed.
If you remapped your buttons, you'd have to click on one button at the top for Start, then slide your thumb back down to select the menu item, then slide your thumb back up to click OK every time you need to close a window... it seems like a work-out !
I haven't had a problem, but as I said above, now I use both hands for safety.
How do you dial a number you've never dialed before when you can't look at the screen ?
You can't Or you can used Voice Command (sold separately) to say "Dial" then the number
I love the Treo's form factor, but the old OS, lack of multi-tasking, lack of real bluetooth and WiFi are holding me back...
Go the Wizard!! I saw a Treo 650 in the shops yesterday, and had a hold (had no battery so I couldn't play) and the keyboard on the Wizard is much better, but the Treo's kb can be used onehanded farely easiler. It definately beats the Wizard in onehandedness, but I would pick the Wizard because of the reasons you stated, plus the use of Windows Mobile (Palm is too simple).
Please enlighten me !
You should now feel (somewhat) enlightened!

Shortcut or keymap for activating smartdial?

So I discovered something today on my sprint touch that most probably already know about. My biggest complaint with the dialer is the slow responsiveness of the keypress. However, i just discovered that if I turn off smartdial, then it is very fast and responsive. Plus it formats the number in (xxx) xxx-xxxx which is perfect for use in the US.
The problem is I use smartdial alot more than I don't, can't really live without it. It is so much faster than any finger friendly type contacts program.
But this slow response is definitely a drawback to smartdial. Also, when i just want to type in a number, smartdial sometimes interfere with dialing the wrong number I am trying to type.
For me, the perfect scenario would be to turn smartdial on and off with a single button, either hard button or soft button, doesn't matter, although realize Touch is limited on soft buttons. Anybody can think of a way to make this happen? This way when I am dialing a contact I will use smartdial, and when i am dialing a new number, I can turn it off. I never use that contact button on the bottom left corner of the dialpad so replacing that with enabling/disabling smartdial would be ideal.
superflysocal said:
So I discovered something today on my sprint touch that most probably already know about. My biggest complaint with the dialer is the slow responsiveness of the keypress. However, i just discovered that if I turn off smartdial, then it is very fast and responsive. Plus it formats the number in (xxx) xxx-xxxx which is perfect for use in the US.
The problem is I use smartdial alot more than I don't, can't really live without it. It is so much faster than any finger friendly type contacts program.
But this slow response is definitely a drawback to smartdial. Also, when i just want to type in a number, smartdial sometimes interfere with dialing the wrong number I am trying to type.
For me, the perfect scenario would be to turn smartdial on and off with a single button, either hard button or soft button, doesn't matter, although realize Touch is limited on soft buttons. Anybody can think of a way to make this happen? This way when I am dialing a contact I will use smartdial, and when i am dialing a new number, I can turn it off. I never use that contact button on the bottom left corner of the dialpad so replacing that with enabling/disabling smartdial would be ideal.
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If it's set in the registry (which it probably is) it should be very easy to create a console app that changes the setting and can be launched by a hardware keypress or a shortcut. I'll do a bit of digging and see what I can find...
If it's not stored in the registry, I have no easy way of achieving this...

How dows one add/change a hardkey?

Hi, I did a lot of searching for this but I can't come up with any solution (which is odd as it strikes me to be a problem).
I bought voice commander yesterday as I'm on the road for my company a lot and all that works perfectly. So then I tried assigning it to a hardkey (is that the right word?) on my Touch HD (uk).
Apparently some incompetent interaction designer must have thought that it was a brilliant idea to only have one hardkey and bind that hard to making calls as well. Result? Me accidentally dialling 6 people out of the 7 times that I tried using it. I can only imagine what a horror it must be when I'm driving.
So here is the question; how do I add hardkeys to the buttons menu in the settings so I can assign stuff to those buttons? Any button really, preferably the 'hang up' button. Currently there is only 'button 1' but there must be a way of tapping into those other buttons.
I'm not shy of reg editing (it has to be a key or something in the registry) or anything like that but I can't seem to find a regeditor.
I'd try the HTC helpdesk but they don't know anything really beyond the standard questions (at least not the last 3 times I tried).
Zeus2.0 said:
Hi, I did a lot of searching for this but I can't come up with any solution (which is odd as it strikes me to be a problem).
I bought voice commander yesterday as I'm on the road for my company a lot and all that works perfectly. So then I tried assigning it to a hardkey (is that the right word?) on my Touch HD (uk).
Apparently some incompetent interaction designer must have thought that it was a brilliant idea to only have one hardkey and bind that hard to making calls as well. Result? Me accidentally dialling 6 people out of the 7 times that I tried using it. I can only imagine what a horror it must be when I'm driving.
So here is the question; how do I add hardkeys to the buttons menu in the settings so I can assign stuff to those buttons? Any button really, preferably the 'hang up' button. Currently there is only 'button 1' but there must be a way of tapping into those other buttons.
I'm not shy of reg editing (it has to be a key or something in the registry) or anything like that but I can't seem to find a regeditor.
I'd try the HTC helpdesk but they don't know anything really beyond the standard questions (at least not the last 3 times I tried).
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Have you tried AEBPlus?
That requires me to run the program in the memory constantly doesn't it (and it's not freeware iirc)?
Zeus2.0 said:
That requires me to run the program in the memory constantly doesn't it (and it's not freeware iirc)?
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Yes, it does takes some resources, but it gives a lot more functionality and improves the phone greatly.
For example,
You could ingle press to forward/repeat songs or change channel in FM radio, and long press to change volume.
You could single press the green button to either do nothing or start your VOIP phone if you have one, and double press to run the regular phone. (this prevents accidental dialing the last number)
Double press the back key to close active application
etc.
Hmmm, it's a last option solution for me. It's more a matter of principle. When I buy a phone like this, I expect to be able to have access to all buttons, not just one. It's a bit stupid that I need to run an extra app to actually use my phone properly. I mean; didn't anyone at htc think that just having one button is stupid and then assigning it to the dial button is just braindead thinking?
Right, gave that program a go but it doesn't seem to be working for me.
Zeus2.0 said:
Right, gave that program a go but it doesn't seem to be working for me.
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That's because you're not familiar with how to use it yet, I think.
This is how yo use that software:
Say, you want to reassign the up volume button. First you might note that the initial defaultsetting is "do not touch button".
press and HOLD the up volume entry until
the screen for altering the setting appear.
Once that happens, the rest should be intuitively enough.
Remember later to save and exit. No need to soft reset.

Things you probably don't know about your Xperia

Tell us some things that you recently discovered this or the previous month, but never knew that the Xperia was capable of (respond to this thread).
poetryrocksalot's things:
1) The Xperia's shift key can be used in correspondence to the D-pad to select text or files. (I didn't know that the CAP's symbol was actually a shift key)
2) The center button on the Xperia's optical joystick/D-pad can be used to open context menus in file explorer, total commander, resco explorer, spb diary, and just about anything etc. All you have to do is highlight the field of text and press and hold the D-pad. You will see the circular animation indicating that a context menu is about to be open.
3) Your Xperia's mono speakers leave a 1.5 seconds hissing sound after you press a key tone or activate the speakers. This causes your X1 to lose a lot of battery especially if you enable the following: keypad tones, screen tap tones, hardware button tones. Not all Windows Mobile Phones have the hissing sound. The Xperia is one of a few phones with this imperfection (test your other Windows Mobile phones and report here).
comeradealexi's things
4) If you want to select text in opera you have to hold down your finger on the screen and turn text selection ON.
When making a phone call for example i wanted to ring "James" all i would have to enter is 526 to show keyboards "JAM" and the contact appears!
very usefull and VERY efficient
The same for contacts.
Anyway you also have shortcuts in emails,
just press&hold "H".
All the shortcuts there are invoked by press&hold.
You can also navigate through inboxes and messages without going out,
just with navipad.
oTToToTenTanz's things
5) If you dial with hardware keyboard you do not have use this "shift" key. It gets the numbers in instantly. I guess it is not much of a new thing though...
Bronx's things:
6) ok. mine is quite good. when You open Your message inbox, type on hard keys or onscreen keys any info You are looking for, contacts, numbers even text from message bodies. It is automatically searched for You. just try it - quite useful when You have more than few hundred messages just like me.
If you want to select text in opera you have to hold down your finger on the screen and turn text selection ON.
The optical button is the same functionality as a left-mouse click. Holding it is a right-mouse click.
WhyBe said:
The optical button is the same functionality as a left-mouse click. Holding it is a right-mouse click.
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Yeah that's what i said in my post too. It surprised me too, and now I love my Xperia so much more because I don't rely on touch screen anymore...it's amazing...
But the way worded that sounds better than the way I said it in my post.
Kudos
Holding space on the hardware keyboard leads to ". "
I don't know if this is stock or FingerKeyboard enabled it somehow, but I like it for typing emails.
THESpideyWVU said:
Holding space on the hardware keyboard leads to ". "
I don't know if this is stock or FingerKeyboard enabled it somehow, but I like it for typing emails.
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Wow on my Xperia it doesn't work. I want that feature! Actually I want to be able to use the "hold" function as an auto input for function symbols.
Does anyone know how to tweak for this to work?
poetryrocksalot said:
Wow on my Xperia it doesn't work. I want that feature! Actually I want to be able to use the "hold" function as an auto input for function symbols.
Does anyone know how to tweak for this to work?
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Didnt WhyBe say something about "FingerKeyboard enabled it somehow"
You can customise the àü key ...for example I have £, % and _ set up against the H key
So to get "_" I just type "H" and then hit the àü key twice (first time gives me "-" then second makes it "_")
...to get "%" I hit the àü key once more
I have the Euro symbol and several others set up this way too... never have to use the SYMBOL key any more!
jcsxda said:
You can customise the àü key ...for example I have £, % and _ set up against the H key
So to get "_" I just type "H" and then hit the àü key twice (first time gives me "-" then second makes it "_")
...to get "%" I hit the àü key once more
I have the Euro symbol and several others set up this way too... never have to use the SYMBOL key any more!
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How to do?
doministry said:
How to do?
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Sorry -should have said!
Got this from member Maedox...
Connect your phone in ActiveSync mode to your computer and open \Windows\sym.0409.txt
Each line is representing one hardware key. Each time you press àü it jumps to the next character on the line in that text file.
Here's the original thread
Hmm.
If you dial with hardware keyboard you do not have use this "shift" key. It gets the numbers in instantly. I guess it is not much of a new thing though...
Keep them coming there are simple and easy things that people just don't know.
When making a phone call for example i wanted to ring "James" all i would have to enter is 526 to show keyboards "JAM" and the contact appears!
very usefull and VERY efficient
comeradealexi said:
When making a phone call for example i wanted to ring "James" all i would have to enter is 526 to show keyboards "JAM" and the contact appears!
very usefull and VERY efficient
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erm, i think that has been so since Windows mobile 5.
ok. mine is quite good. when You open Your message inbox, type on hard keys or onscreen keys any info You are looking for, contacts, numbers even text from message bodies. It is automatically searched for You. just try it - quite useful when You have more than few hundred messages just like me.
here's a good one: sliding it open reveals a qwerty hardware keyboard
bronx said:
ok. mine is quite good. when You open Your message inbox, type on hard keys or onscreen keys any info You are looking for, contacts, numbers even text from message bodies. It is automatically searched for You. just try it - quite useful when You have more than few hundred messages just like me.
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Props for that one!
etegration said:
erm, i think that has been so since Windows mobile 5.
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okay. but the thread says "Tell us some things that you recently discovered this or the previous month"
so i am
ring-bearer said:
Props for that one!
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The same for contacts.
Anyway you also have shortcuts in emails,
just press&hold "H".
All the shortcuts there are invoked by press&hold.
You can also navigate through inboxes and messages without going out,
just with navipad.
DatDereX1 said:
here's a good one: sliding it open reveals a qwerty hardware keyboard
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lol!!! laughed my heart out

How much do you use the slide out keyboard?

So I've had mine for a few weeks now, and I can still count the number of times I've used the physical keyboard on one hand lol. I'm not even sure why. It's fine when I use it, but the onscreen one is just -so- fast and responsive. I can type much much faster with the onscreen one.
On the flip side I like that it's there just in case I need it for some reason (needing to type something really specific, etc).
But yeah, how much do you use it?
anything more than a few words and i whip out the physical board. even if the screen view is locked to portrait.
weatherx said:
anything more than a few words and i whip out the physical board. even if the screen view is locked to portrait.
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same here, mainly because for some reason the fact that my phone has a smiley button is hilarious to me. Also, just a little fun fact, the keyboard backlight will turn on when you click on an area to enter text, but otherwise stays off. Nifty, ehhh?
I use my keyboard A LOT. I never entered text using the on screen keyboard, that is, until my screen light decided to start cutting off whenever I slid it out. Now I have to use the on screen.
Me too... I use it almost every day. Just can't seem to get the hang of the soft keyboard.
I use it every day, almost every single time i type something. it is just faster and more accurate.
Anything more than 5 words and I use the keyboard
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
i use my often as well for sms, sometime use voice to sms too, no cutout
Anyone care to tell me how to type a star (*) with the hard keyboard? I don't seem to find it anywhere....
Thanks
resol341 said:
Anyone care to tell me how to type a star (*) with the hard keyboard? I don't seem to find it anywhere....
Thanks
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You have to use the symbol key and then touch the right arrow key on the onscreen keyboard that pops up to get to it - pretty much the same way you would with the onscreen keyboard (&123 key then right arrow)
By the way, in case some don't know this, you can enter the blue (fn) function characters just by holding the physical key just a bit longer. Saves us from having to fiddle with the fn button everytime.
cmphone said:
You have to use the symbol key and then touch the right arrow key on the onscreen keyboard that pops up to get to it - pretty much the same way you would with the onscreen keyboard (&123 key then right arrow)
By the way, in case some don't know this, you can enter the blue (fn) function characters just by holding the physical key just a bit longer. Saves us from having to fiddle with the fn button everytime.
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Thanks a lot!
Best!
I also found something today. Long pressing the sym can switch input method. In my case, I can switch between English and Chinese. I might just be too retarded to find out earlier ~

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