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Typing delay + more!

alright when i first got my phone i never had a problem with a typing delay. but now my phone is 6 mopnths old and i am now having lots of problems. fristly a few weeks ago i had to do a complete factory reset becuse my phone totally went rretarted. i was sitting in a restuarant and i was txting someone and her name is tiffany. i texted her and then the next message she sent me showed her number in stead of her name(like from tiffany now says from 72789846) but i didnt think anything of it like maybe she had her friends phone or something. so i didnt do anything about it. and then i got home that night and fell asleep and when i awoke i had 2 missed called so i clicked missed calls on the htc home plug in and the phone totally locked up. i reset it and upod reset i found that i cannot make calls. cant recieve calls. it said i didnt have service. couldnt go online . lost all my contacts. and the only thing i could do is text. i was furious of course. this would be the second time this year i lost all my contacts! So i called sprint and they could do nothing for me. So i did a factory reset and sucked it up!. this itself is a huge prblem becuase i no longer trust my phone at all. but i reset it and then found the new sprint rom so i loaded that on there (2nd format basicly) and its all good i suppose. its a little bit slower than it used to be. but now my cpu is as 90-95% with nothing running. slowing down my ppc to almost a standstill. it takes a very long time to open anything. but thats not why im bothered. now whenever i type the typeing delay is sooooooooo badd.. i will type a full text message and it wont type anything then i will put my phone down and 5 seconds or so later the message will be typing itself!. i want this to be fixed. also i want to speed up my phone because its very agrivating. a cheap 20 dollar phone is faster than this 350 dollar POS. but i am forced to live with my phone. and its a dam shame because i love the phone. i love everything you can do. but i want to be able to do those things well..i mean i paid 350$ for a good phone not frustration. if anyone can be of assistance please post thank you

xxbarrxx said:
alright when i first got my phone i never had a problem with a typing delay. but now my phone is 6 mopnths old and i am now having lots of problems. fristly a few weeks ago i had to do a complete factory reset becuse my phone totally went rretarted. i was sitting in a restuarant and i was txting someone and her name is tiffany. i texted her and then the next message she sent me showed her number in stead of her name(like from tiffany now says from 72789846) but i didnt think anything of it like maybe she had her friends phone or something. so i didnt do anything about it. and then i got home that night and fell asleep and when i awoke i had 2 missed called so i clicked missed calls on the htc home plug in and the phone totally locked up. i reset it and upod reset i found that i cannot make calls. cant recieve calls. it said i didnt have service. couldnt go online . lost all my contacts. and the only thing i could do is text. i was furious of course. this would be the second time this year i lost all my contacts! So i called sprint and they could do nothing for me. So i did a factory reset and sucked it up!. this itself is a huge prblem becuase i no longer trust my phone at all. but i reset it and then found the new sprint rom so i loaded that on there (2nd format basicly) and its all good i suppose. its a little bit slower than it used to be. but now my cpu is as 90-95% with nothing running. slowing down my ppc to almost a standstill. it takes a very long time to open anything. but thats not why im bothered. now whenever i type the typeing delay is sooooooooo badd.. i will type a full text message and it wont type anything then i will put my phone down and 5 seconds or so later the message will be typing itself!. i want this to be fixed. also i want to speed up my phone because its very agrivating. a cheap 20 dollar phone is faster than this 350 dollar POS. but i am forced to live with my phone. and its a dam shame because i love the phone. i love everything you can do. but i want to be able to do those things well..i mean i paid 350$ for a good phone not frustration. if anyone can be of assistance please post thank you
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I am sorry, that is one of the hardest things to read I have ever seen on this board. Good luck to you and to whoever can read that and find an answer for you.

OP: I have to agree with RevSand.
I Tried - really, I did. But, the simple fact is, my eyes crossed trying to read that ?paragraph?
You'll have much better luck getting a response if you
A) shorten that whole thing to include relevant details
B) don't type it like you're typing a text message
C) Line breaks. Paragraph Breaks.
People on message boards (myself included) generally browse through pretty quickly. VERY long winded and difficult to read posts often get read 5% of the way through, and not finished. I'm sure you can see why this would be detrimental to your getting a response/solution.
Have a great day,
Ben

xxbarrxx said:
alright when i first got my phone i never had a problem with a typing delay. but now my phone is 6 mopnths old and i am now having lots of problems. fristly a few weeks ago i had to do a complete factory reset becuse my phone totally went rretarted. i was sitting in a restuarant and i was txting someone and her name is tiffany. i texted her and then the next message she sent me showed her number in stead of her name(like from tiffany now says from 72789846) but i didnt think anything of it like maybe she had her friends phone or something. so i didnt do anything about it. and then i got home that night and fell asleep and when i awoke i had 2 missed called so i clicked missed calls on the htc home plug in and the phone totally locked up. i reset it and upod reset i found that i cannot make calls. cant recieve calls. it said i didnt have service. couldnt go online . lost all my contacts. and the only thing i could do is text. i was furious of course. this would be the second time this year i lost all my contacts! So i called sprint and they could do nothing for me. So i did a factory reset and sucked it up!. this itself is a huge prblem becuase i no longer trust my phone at all. but i reset it and then found the new sprint rom so i loaded that on there (2nd format basicly) and its all good i suppose. its a little bit slower than it used to be. but now my cpu is as 90-95% with nothing running. slowing down my ppc to almost a standstill. it takes a very long time to open anything. but thats not why im bothered. now whenever i type the typeing delay is sooooooooo badd.. i will type a full text message and it wont type anything then i will put my phone down and 5 seconds or so later the message will be typing itself!. i want this to be fixed. also i want to speed up my phone because its very agrivating. a cheap 20 dollar phone is faster than this 350 dollar POS. but i am forced to live with my phone. and its a dam shame because i love the phone. i love everything you can do. but i want to be able to do those things well..i mean i paid 350$ for a good phone not frustration. if anyone can be of assistance please post thank you
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I suggest finding a reliable ROM from either DCD kitchens or no2chem. Then uploading it into your phone ( sprint rom ofcourse ) maybe the tweaks they have made can help you out.
But if you want to stay at a stock rom ( with out GPS or Rev.A ) im sure DCD has a very stable rom for that too, or you can exchange your phone for a new one if everything else fails.

[email protected]$ said:
I suggest finding a reliable ROM from either DCD kitchens or no2chem. Then uploading it into your phone ( sprint rom ofcourse ) maybe the tweaks they have made can help you out....
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I second [email protected]$'s sentiments. I'm using DCD's 3.0.1 ROM and it is great!
The 15 minute solution is to first reflash your phone with the latest Official Sprint Mogul ROM 3.35:
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=75&act=sd
This will not only hard reset your device (erases all data), it will upgrade both the operating system and the radio. The upgraded radio enables GPS and also enables even faster data speeds.
Copy the .exe file of dotFred's PIM backup v2.8 (for WM5 & WM6)
http://www.dotfred.net/default.htm
into a directory (doesn't matter) on your Mogul and schedule it to regularly, AUTOMATICALLY backup all of your Contacts (and whatever else you want) onto your MicroSD every night.
There is LOTS of detailed information in this great forum about this. For further info on the Stock Sprint upgrade you can also check out:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20641
Depending upon your job or environment, it is possible that you subjected your Mogul to an electric shock or EMP of some sort that might happen again (which could erase or corrupt your personal data), so you probably want to make a habit of backing up/synchronizing your unit with your desktop PC.
If you want to use a customized ROM, I would recommend one of DCD's latest. At the top of the "Titan Upgrading" section of XDA-Developers, you'll see DCD's latest ROM "dcd's titan ROMs & kitchen 3.0.4" or you can do a search for "DCD titan Rom 3.0.1" and select the .exe "Sprint ROM" made by |||bored||| posted by DCD in the first post. These can speed up your device even more and offer some nice features.
However there are some careful (but easy) steps that you'll want to follow when upgrading to a customized ROM, so I strongly recommend reading the forums carefully. I found this one helpful:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17667
Also, because most of the customized ROMs are streamlined to operate faster and more efficiently, some features that you MIGHT want have been disabled or removed. Browsing the forums can help identify how to re-enable/re-install any of these that are important to you. That being said, they've added LOTs of nice features not available on the stock ROM.

Can't pick up the phone! Anyone else?

Well, thats it, I actually can't pick up my phone when I get a call. I can push the green pick up button as many times as I want, but it wont respond, and I end up having to call people back. Anyone else with this issue? (phone info in sig)

I am only going to take a guess and say that you have a lot of programs that run in the background.
Maybe try not using auto rotate.

I agree with Neobbs although when I first read the subject, I thought maybe you needed to work out more....

Same problem here. I can have the phone in my hands looking at it straight up when the phone rings and the phone goes black for about 5 seconds (or about 2 rings) and then the caller id comes up and I start hitting the call/talk button to answer. It goes to VM eventually and me hitting the green button ends up bringing up the recent call list. Auto rotate is disabled, but I do have weatherbug, open home, caller lookup and IM running in the background. Oh... and I have the transistions/animations enabled. That's all i can think of. I'll try removing the caller lookup app to see if it eliminates the problem.

hi,im running rc33 stock rom on bronze tmo g1 in singapore..it happened many a times,even on a cold boot up..wonder what is the actual problem here,mine is not rooted at all..

screamsoflust said:
hi,im running rc33 stock rom ....wonder what is the actual problem here,mine is not rooted at all..
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why in the world would you do that? (j/k)

bhang said:
why in the world would you do that? (j/k)
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huh?what do you mean?

screamsoflust said:
huh?what do you mean?
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he means.. why would you not root your G1???
I think it's a good, fair and valid question.

Do you have installed a customer ring tone ? if yes, choose original ring tone and try again.

I had the same problem when I started using my phone. I dunno what changed but the prob. has disappeared or I got used to hold the pickup button down for a bit longer automatically. I got the feeling that this helped the issue.
My phone is RC33 not rooted... and to answer you question: I've tried but I'm still fighting with my XP to accept the USB driver.

Guess again!
neoobs said:
I am only going to take a guess and say that you have a lot of programs that run in the background.
Maybe try not using auto rotate.
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mine does the same randomly. Straight after a factory reset.
nothing installed, and my G1 is not rooted (yet).

has anyone found a solution for this problem?
Using RC33 with weatherbug running in the background, but it occurs with it installed and without it installed
I swear, the G1 must be the worst phone ive ever used
can't wait for the touch pro 2 now...
google can't release polished software if their lives depended on it.. selling a beta phone is just bs

n3rdftw said:
has anyone found a solution for this problem?
Using RC33 with weatherbug running in the background, but it occurs with it installed and without it installed
I swear, the G1 must be the worst phone ive ever used
can't wait for the touch pro 2 now...
google can't release polished software if their lives depended on it.. selling a beta phone is just bs
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Yep, must be terrible if about 4 or 5 people have this problem out of the thousands who have bought it....
I've never had any of these problems, but im guessing they're (probably) firmware related.

Meltus said:
Yep, must be terrible if about 4 or 5 people have this problem out of the thousands who have bought it....
I've never had any of these problems, but im guessing they're (probably) firmware related.
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most probably just call back and arent bothered to find out how to fix it on xda
anyways, when you say firmware related, what did you mean?
I installed JF 1.42, and before that, his earlier versions, and way before that my phone started out with RC18, which I then rooted. Would it be linked to that? I've wiped my phone like a dozen times, but the problem is reoccurring perhaps once or twice a day, out of about 30 phone calls a day
additionally, although this may be linked to t-mobiles ****ty service, have you guys noticed a large increase in dropped calls?
I use my phone in both austin tx and houston, and in both locations, about every 10 calls is dropped, I dont know if its just the horrible service they have, or when I move from a location with 3g to edge.
With the new radio, the dropped calls have reduced in number, but still occur randomly
Also, one more thing, and a little off topic, but this has been bothering me,
Is there anyone to get a SMS application that allows me to type using a numpad or something similar on the screen? or at least, have spell correct, cause chompsms' keyboard is way too small to use one handed and still have legible messages, unlike the iphone where the errors would be auto corrected

n3rdftw said:
most probably just call back and arent bothered to find out how to fix it on xda
anyways, when you say firmware related, what did you mean?
I installed JF 1.42, and before that, his earlier versions, and way before that my phone started out with RC18, which I then rooted. Would it be linked to that? I've wiped my phone like a dozen times, but the problem is reoccurring perhaps once or twice a day, out of about 30 phone calls a day
additionally, although this may be linked to t-mobiles ****ty service, have you guys noticed a large increase in dropped calls?
I use my phone in both austin tx and houston, and in both locations, about every 10 calls is dropped, I dont know if its just the horrible service they have, or when I move from a location with 3g to edge.
With the new radio, the dropped calls have reduced in number, but still occur randomly
Also, one more thing, and a little off topic, but this has been bothering me,
Is there anyone to get a SMS application that allows me to type using a numpad or something similar on the screen? or at least, have spell correct, cause chompsms' keyboard is way too small to use one handed and still have legible messages, unlike the iphone where the errors would be auto corrected
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I'm in austin, tx too and I also get the black screen of death almost every time I get an incomming call so maybe it is a location based thing? My g1 is rooted and I have over 70 apps installed and I'm not about to uninstall them 1 by 1 to see which one could be causing it. In the past, rings extended was said to be the one causing the problem but I don't have that installed.
Also, there have been enough requests for t9 and auto correct with chomp, I'm sure it will be in the upcomming updates

Im running Haykuro now and haven't had a single incident so far. Also, I have 73 (yes, seventy-three) MB of free system memory as I moved pretty much EVERYTHING to the SD card. In return, my phone is unable to boot without my SD card... which is a bit strange.

My phone is dropping SMSs... I get them, but they're not there.

I've owned my Rogers Dream (rooted, no custom ROM) for a couple of weeks now - this bug has been around since the start but it's getting worse these days and it's really starting to bother me.
Basically what happens is I'll get the notification for a text message. I can see the summary in the notification bar (with the new message), but when i open a messaging app (the default one or Chomp) the message won't be there. SMS Popup will also just display the previously most recent SMS in the conversation.
It seems like the system just isn't saving the message. Besides for the notification (which disappears after i clear), it's as if I never got the message. It kind of sucks...
My searching skills came up with nothing so i'm wondering - has this happened to anyone else - any idea what the reason could be - please let me fix this.
Thanks!

Well blyn100, interesting you should point this flaw out. I have a similar issue, but so far only 1 contact has given me this same summary with no msg. Trying to figure out the source of this problem, right now I have one suspicion. A few times, i think i received these msg's after being in a no service area. I am curious if this might be a possibility for you?
Also, I have similar phone setup as you, ie same stock Rogers ROM, obviously since no choice...yet.

i have the same issue
i had a thread started, but no response yet as to how to fix this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542178&highlight=SMS+issue
but now it seems like more and more ppl are having this issue (or it is more apparent)
its the same with Chomp, handcent, even the native app

Looks like this is mostly just a Rogers issue then?
Most of mine are occuring when I have pretty good reception, so I think i can confirm that that's not it.
Proccessor usage / avaiable RAM is what I'm leaning towards though. I might try uninstalling the virtual keyboard to free up some RAM and see if it helps anything.
Or just a bug in the stock ROM. Seems like for this to happen, the network is sending the message to the device and the device just forgets to save it, but confirms to the network that it got it. Still, i have a hard time believing a problem like this would suddenly appear for the Rogers build.
I had like 3 dropped ones last night, it's starting to get really annoying.

Are you sure it's not the timestamp bug? Look further up in your conversation to see if SMS' have been inserted there.

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Are you sure it's not the timestamp bug? Look further up in your conversation to see if SMS' have been inserted there.
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Yup, i checked all of the conversations, this isn't the case for any of them.

I had this issue on my T-Mobile G1 with the Rogers' ROMs. But I haven't had issues with Cyanogen builds...

Can't we start a petition for this sms problem??

Hi all,
I was wondering if I can't start a partition for the sms problem for leo. This is still a phone people and the two major functions of a phone are to be able to call and send text messages. Meanwhile all HTC seems to do is fix some little calendar and sd-card bugs but where is the WORKING fix for the sms messaging problem? I think if we start a petition and show HTC how much people are struggling with this problem, they will need to hurry up and fix this problem once and for all. Only problem is that I don't know how to start this off and I could use a little help. Thnx in advance.
Grtz
P.S. Still loving my snappy Leo, but it's very frustrating when you can't send messages when you're used to do this a lot..

totally agree. they should stop all other fixing not fixing anythng nd work on this issue.

I don't believe in petitions; needs someone to organise, etc.
Better idea, if you feel so strongly about it, is to write to HTC's technical department and copy their publicity and marketing people in.
WB

i dont know which problem you talk about.
but there is already a hotfix for sms-problem from htc.
http://www.htc.com/de/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=812
i hope this will help you. otherwise, which problem do you mean?

Fonzy85 said:
i dont know which problem you talk about.
but there is already a hotfix for sms-problem from htc.
http://www.htc.com/de/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=812
i hope this will help you. otherwise, which problem do you mean?
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He knows that, but that hotfix dosent work. This is why he put WORKING hotfix in his message. HTC need to sort this out. coz i'm seriously thinking of selling this phone and getting another iPhone now.

Protip: The hotfix works. If it doesn't, you're doing it wrong.

DexyG said:
Protip: The hotfix works. If it doesn't, you're doing it wrong.
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doesnt work

Gotta agree hot fix did nothing for me. Seriously annoying trying to send messages. Its rather embarrassing when i show off the phone!
The only thing that gets me by is the little work around someone suggested. When loading a contact Open and Close the menu(bottom right) then you can type. Its annoying but much faster than waiting for nearly a minute to start typing.

they should remove and return me back the old classic outlook sms!!!!

bzdemes said:
Its rather embarrassing when i show off the phone!
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Exactly, when people use the phone to try it out and it gets stuck on one of the most basic functions, they just think "why would someone use a phone that doesn't text?". It won't do much for the "i want one" mentality that HTC want people to have when they see their friends using their phones.

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Protip: The hotfix works. If it doesn't, you're doing it wrong.
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What makes you think so? There are loads of people who've installed the fix and experienced the bug since. And more are cropping up every day. Just because some people haven't had the bug come back after installing the fix doesn't mean it wont. Some users had the phone for weeks before the bug cropped up initially. Moreover, HTC themselves are not advertising the hotfix as relating in anyway to the stuck outbox problem. The accompanying description on their site is a load of marketing speak nonsense.

My 2p worth.
Firstly I have a love hate relationship with HTC Messaging. I've always used PocketCM anyway instead of the standard MS c#@* and it has worked lovely until the recent ROMS came along. Now it simply won't run alongside. Just crashes out. I don't know why and the developer can't assist as he does not have a machine to test it with and can't recreate the issue etc, etc...
Last week T-Mobile made me an offer that could not be refused and so I upgraded to the HD2. It has been with some trepidation that I have used it the past week or so as I send and receive a lot of texts on a daily basis but I have to say I have not had the problems you guys are having. They go straight away and there is none of the lag that has been reported. I'm beginning to think I must be very lucky! On the other hand I would agree that to me the two basics of these phones that must work faultlessly are the calls themselves and SMS. The fact that there is issues is pretty dreadful...
My next hope is the arrival of hacking SPL so I can flash a decent ROM onto the device and hopefully one without this program built in!!

The SMS outbox build-up (and therefore non-sending) bug is intermittent. I had it after around 4 days on my original handset. I installed the hotfix immediately upon unboxing the replacement and encountered the problem within 24 hours. There is also another, more nasty and even more intermittent SMS bug - mentioned by only a couple of people on this forum - and that is texts going to someone other than the intended recipient. I have had it happen twice to me and that is enough to give me ZERO confidence in sending texts on this device. I don't discuss anything that I would be embarrassed about if it were to get into the wrong hands. This is a bit of a disaster for a seasoned texter like myself, I used to text more than I made calls.
HTC need to address this, they obviously can't locate the 'bug' or don't fully understand the problem. Intermittent faults are notoriously difficult to fix as they never occur when the 'tester' is checking for them. Therefore if a fault cannot be replicated, how can it ever be fixed? My 2 cents is that the whole messaging app should be rewritten from scratch and the plans for the old system should not be looked at - it should all be fresh. If they can't find the bug, write some new code.

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The SMS outbox build-up (and therefore non-sending) bug is intermittent. I had it after around 4 days on my original handset. I installed the hotfix immediately upon unboxing the replacement and encountered the problem within 24 hours. There is also another, more nasty and even more intermittent SMS bug - mentioned by only a couple of people on this forum - and that is texts going to someone other than the intended recipient. I have had it happen twice to me and that is enough to give me ZERO confidence in sending texts on this device. I don't discuss anything that I would be embarrassed about if it were to get into the wrong hands. This is a bit of a disaster for a seasoned texter like myself, I used to text more than I made calls.
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Now that would be a major pain in the a#*&! As I've said I believe I must have struck lucky and have none of those issues but if I did.... God doesn't bear thinking about!
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HTC need to address this, they obviously can't locate the 'bug' or don't fully understand the problem. Intermittent faults are notoriously difficult to fix as they never occur when the 'tester' is checking for them. Therefore if a fault cannot be replicated, how can it ever be fixed? My 2 cents is that the whole messaging app should be rewritten from scratch and the plans for the old system should not be looked at - it should all be fresh. If they can't find the bug, write some new code.
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+1 to that idea but I wouldn't hold your breathe!!

One again, I repeat: I haven't seen anyone in America have this issue. I use ATT and have no issues with texts. None. I've had my HD2 for almost a whole month, as well.
*knocks on wood*

Lucky indeed
TonyJ999 said:
My 2p worth.
Firstly I have a love hate relationship with HTC Messaging. I've always used PocketCM anyway instead of the standard MS c#@* and it has worked lovely until the recent ROMS came along. Now it simply won't run alongside. Just crashes out. I don't know why and the developer can't assist as he does not have a machine to test it with and can't recreate the issue etc, etc...
Last week T-Mobile made me an offer that could not be refused and so I upgraded to the HD2. It has been with some trepidation that I have used it the past week or so as I send and receive a lot of texts on a daily basis but I have to say I have not had the problems you guys are having. They go straight away and there is none of the lag that has been reported. I'm beginning to think I must be very lucky!
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That's the problem. Although I've read and followed these threads about this problem as they came across the forum, I had'nt had any problems myself and considered myself lucky too! But after regaining confidence in messaging with my leo, and I started to send texts again it turned out this problem occurs quite random. Sometimes I send a text and it gets delivered right away, but another time I'll send a text and a few others to other recipients, and they all get delivered 2 days later!! That's where it gets tricky for HTC I think. Then again, if they are able to create these beautiful devices, they're certainly able to rewrite a flawless messaging-app from scratch.. Only hope that this will be fixed soon Or HardSPL will be released soon.

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If you're saying that, YOU know nothing.

I too suffer this problem.
Today I got really pi**ed with it and uninstalled the Hotfix, leaving just the ROM Update, so far so good - probably just today though!
This is a really buggy phone throughout though, probably the worst I've had, but somehow this appeals to me deep down

I've had the phone since November, seen the sms problem only twice. Kinda got the impression that it only occurs if the phone has been on a good while, i.e a number of charges with no soft-resets. That could easily be coincidence.
Both times also after spotting the messages in the outbox and doing a soft reset the queued messages sent.

Still not working for me too

These are my issues: I need to decide today when I return of keep the HD2 :(

Hello XDA Team,
Firstly, I want to say a huge thanks to the contributors of this forum as I've silently benefitted from your work over the past year on my previous phone, i900 Omina. Unsurprisingly I'm one of the many people who was tempted by the HD2 as it's effectively everything I always wished the Omnia would be - in principle.
So, I received my HD2 last Tuesday (direct from T-Mobile) and my number was ported from Vodafone on Thursday. After using the phone for a weekend I arranged an exchange as I believed my handset was faulty due to the crackling and resonating sounds from the earpeice. When I searched online I didn't find anyone with a similar complaint so I assumed mine was faulty. The replacement arrived on Tuesday and it's exactly the same, only this time the bottom row of buttons isn't a good a fit as on the first. Small issue that one and not really a deal breaker. A bit more searching and this time round I found the lists of post from people with the same sound quality complaints.
The issues I have with this phone are:
1) The crackling speaker - resonating to people's voices.
2) The SMS functionality, slow loading of messages and formatting bugs with the date stamp for one message overlapping the previous message in a thread, changing text size doesn't apply to every text in a thread.
3) The Contacts app freezes everytime I make a change to a contact, rendering the phone useless for about 30 seconds after each change. This includes when I add someone to the favourites list in Sense.
4)Random slow downs of Sense when hardly anything is running in the background (just Comm Manager)
5) The camera, even with the hotfix still has reddish/pinkish colouring to the middle of the picture
6) videos I recorded with the HD2 won't play on the HD2!!! Eh? What's going on there?????
Now I can accept software issues as I know these will be fixed eventually. My Omnia was a much better phone after a year of owning it than when it was first delivered almost solely down to ROM updates. However I am genuinely concerned that the speaker crackling is a hardware fault and not software, hence never going to improve.
Which brings me to my dilemma. I bought this phone from T-Mobile, which means I have a 7 working day period to return the phone and cancel my contract with no penalty. Today is the last day of that period, so I need to decide today whether to return the phone or to percevere.
I'll add a bit of balance to the dilemma by listing the things I love about the phone, which ultimately are the reasons which I would want to keep it if the issues could be fixed:
1) The screen the screen the screen!!!!!
2) Facebook integration with contacts
3) Great web browsing
4) Good music player & 3.5mm headphone jack
5) 3G, HSDPA and WiFi
6) WinMo so easy to sync with work Outlook and keep my Omnia contacts and SMS history.
7) Slim design, easy to pocket.
There you go, I have until the end of today to make my decision. I honestly don't know what I would replace the HD2 with IF I do decide to return it for good but 18 months if a long time to be using a phone which is supposed to be state of the art but stuggles with some of the fundamental jobs of a mobile phone.
Thanks for your time
DC.

Send it back.
I've had one now for over a month and it's great.
I don't have any of the problems you have.
I did have a slight pink tinge when I focussed at close range on a white sheet. But with the recent hotfix that is much improved. Anyway, I don't often photo white sheets !
I also don't video at all so tried your problem and I can confirm it's super simple to video and then playback (it's offered as an option after the recording is stopped).
I would send it back and ask for a new one and insist on an updated ROM.

Cheesy Dave said:
I've had one now for over a month and it's great.
I don't have any of the problems you have.
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Same here. Sounds like you've just been unlucky and got a bad one, like some others have reported on xda.
Cheesy Dave said:
I would send it back and ask for a new one and insist on an updated ROM.
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I agree with sending it back as faulty. Say you want another two weeks (or however long it is) with the new one as this one has been so faulty you need to re-evaulate when you get the new one whether you want it or not.
As for insisting on an updated ROM, don't even think about saying that to your phone provider. None of them have updated ROMs yet, and probably won't for a long time. They're likely to wait until the majority of bugs are ironed out before going through the lengthy process of "updating" a ROM for their customers. Seriously - just ignore that advice. (No offense meant, Cheesy Dave)

DavidC1980 said:
Hello XDA Team,
Thanks for your time
DC.
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Hi
Instead of writing here your complaints you should have read some of the threads explaining your problems. I advice you to backup your data then hard reset your device and reinstall your programs one by one and eliminate the program which is eating your HD2's memory. At least half of your problem will be gone after hard reset.
i am using HD2 for a month now and resolved 90% problems came with it.
Good Luck

johncmolyneux said:
Seriously - just ignore that advice. (No offense meant, Cheesy Dave)
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None taken !
Probably if you spoke to the local phone rep and said "ROM" they would be most confused !

Cheesy Dave said:
None taken !
Probably if you spoke to the local phone rep and said "ROM" they would be most confused !
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I'm sure they'd advise you on a massive 32MB ROM SD card that you could put in and store all your music and video on.

sabes143 said:
Hi
Instead of writing here your complaints you should have read some of the threads explaining your problems. I advice you to backup your data then hard reset your device and reinstall your programs one by one and eliminate the program which is eating your HD2's memory. At least half of your problem will be gone after hard reset.
i am using HD2 for a month now and resolved 90% problems came with it.
Good Luck
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Oh I've been reading the threads here non stop and have hard reset the phone three times since receiving it. The only programs I've installed are BSB tweaks and the YouTube app which T-Mobile has removed. Otherwise it's untouched.
My main issue is the crackling speaker, which if you read my post you'd see that I'm happy to wait to sort all the software issues out over time, but hardware issues are different.
My problem is that T-mobile will not do another exchange. They will only give me one chance to exchange then it's either cancel or keep. As I'm on my 2nd handset already, it means I have to make that decision today.
I know some of you hate to see posts from people who are considering ditching their HD2, but that's the reality. We exist. I'm an existing WinMo user too, not even one of the iphone brigade.

I can imagine the issues you're having are annoying and I must admit I've also experienced some of them.
1) Crackling: not a problem for me. I use a bluetooth headset (plus I'm a a bit deaf anyway) so I don't notice any crackling. Have you tried a headset? Any headset? Does it still occur or is the problem only from the external speaker and earpiece? I know others have complained about the volume but thought it was fixed in a newer ROM
2) Messages loading: yes, a real pain. Have you tried the workaround which is to click "Send" as soon as the messages start loading, then click "No" when prompted to send an empty message?
3) Contacts: I haven't had this problem, but then I haven't added users to any groups as they were already set up on my X1.
4) Random Slowdowns: yes, I must admit, this happens to me from time to time. Although you might think that nothing is running there are some processes that aren't visible by default that may be consuming the CPU's time.
I've been using Leo ROMs for quite a while now and if you think it's bad on the HD2 you should've tried it on the X1 to really appreciate the speed and stability of the Leo. OK, perhaps not an acceptable answer for you but some things you just have to put up with and blame not on the phone but the underlying OS (yes, Windows!!)
5) Camera: I've noticed the pink tint too even after installing the hotfix. Annoying, to say the least!
6) Camcorder playback: Works for me!!

The camcorder issue must be 1.43 T-Mob rom related. This new handset has the same problem as the 1st one. It will record video, but won't playback.
I also have annoying freezing when I try to do the simplest of tasks, like emptying the deleted messages folder in the SMS app, to the point where the back cover comes off and the reset button has to be pressed.
BUT, when it works properly I love this phone. I guess if I keep it I'll be flashing new ROMs like there's no tomorrow. Obviously I haven't done that yet as I can't risk breaking the warranty on a phone which I may return.

Get it on O2 and apply the hotfixes... seems to be the better rom

Sod it, I'm keeping the phone. There's nothing else on the market that interests me, and no reason to think that the hardware on the upcoming Nexus will be any better if it's also an HTC handset.
I've got an SD card primed with Goldcard and 1.61.....I'm not gonna take the plunge just yet, but I've read some of the positive feedback on the newer ROMs. Once I've given up on T-Mobile releasing a newer ROM, then I'll get flashing.

DavidC1980 said:
.....Sod it, I'm keeping the phone. There's nothing else on the market that interests me,.
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Good decision chap. Just take the time to apply the fixes and you should be there.
Cheers
WB

It wouldn't surprise me if HTC haven't already got their sights on another ROM which has all hotfixes plus the one they are working on for the SMS fix that doesn't work, a hotfix to fix a hotfix lol.
Eventually they could even release android for it, why not? the hardware is what is keeping me glued to my phone, its ace. they owe it to us!

If it's O2 then you do get leeway (or used to) with regards to what you report as bugs and what they'll do or at least they used to.
When HTC Universal came out that was riddled with bugs and even the phone app didn't work properly (nearly put me off winmo phones for life, HD2 has been my first since) so anyway I called up after the 7 days said look I love the phone but these bugs are killing me. So they sent me another one which I tried and found the same bugs with, so they let me get a different model instead, and this was WAAAAY outside the usual 7 days because the phone was faulty. The 7 day rule is really there for if you get it and you just don't like it, not because it has issues, if it has issues then different more lenient policies apply.
My suggestion would be do the same tell them about the crackling etc and other bugs and get them to send you another, if it's still got the same issues then you've still got the option to swap.
Also without going into too much detail take your time sending yours back, you might find they'll let you keep hold of it for longer then you'd think